@ Mrkalj
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@ ROMANVS I
Na kojim geografskim prostorima žive rumunski Vlasi o kojima pišeš? Moguće da je o tome i pisano do sada, ali da ne bih tražio, molim te preciziraj.
Jer, prema wikipediji, u današnjoj državi Rumuniji ih nema:
Etničke zajednice (procena za 2002): Rumuni 89.50% / Mađari 6.60% / Romi 2.50% / Ukrajinci 0.30% / Nemci 0.30% / Rusi 0.20% / Turci 0.20% / Srbi 0.10% / ostali 0.30%.
Prema popisu iz 2002. u državi Srbiji bilo ih je 40.054, odnosno 0.53%.
S obzirom na to da, opet prema Wikipediji, žive i u delovima Makedonije, severne Grčke i severoistočne Albanije, BiH i Hrvatske, ali i na teritoriji jugoistočne Rumunije,
zaista je važno da se izjasniš o kojima ti pišeš.
Možda, pišeš o onima kojih "nema" u jugoistočnim delovima Rumunije?
Posto se ovi sagovornici zivi izmucise da indirektnim napadima i insinuacijama
izmuce Romanvs-a i isprovociraju, zbog wikipedia i rumunskih / srpskih izvora
voleo bih da dodam skroman doprinos:
Ovo je clanak na Enciklopedija Britanica o Vlasima
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ARTICLE
from the
Encyclopædia Britannica
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/631511/Vlach
ethnonyms Aromani and Arman, also called Macedo-Romanian, Macedo-Vlach, Kutzo-Vlach, and Tsintsar
European ethnic group constituting a major element in the populations of Romania and Moldova and a smaller proportion of the population in the southern part of the Balkan Peninsula and south and west of the Danube River. The name Vlach derives from a German or Slav term for Latin speakers.
The Vlachs, who call themselves Aromani or Arman, first appear in the historical record during the Middle Ages, primarily in the region south of the Balkans. They traditionally claim to be descendants of the Romans who in the 2nd century bce occupied ancient Macedonia and what is now northern and northeastern Greece and who by the 2nd century ce occupied Dacia, a Roman province located in Transylvania and the Carpathian Mountains of present-day Romania. After the Romans evacuated Dacia (271 ce), the area was subjected to a series of barbarian invasions. According to some scholars, the Romanized Dacians remained in the area, probably taking refuge in the Carpathian Mountains. They remained there for several centuries as shepherds and farmers, until conditions settled and they returned to the plains.
The Romanized Dacian population may have moved south of the Danube when the Romans left Dacia. After the barbarian invasions subsided, the Vlachs, seen in this theory as a later group of immigrants, moved into the area from their Romanized homelands south of the Danube or elsewhere in the Balkans. This theory cites the major role the Vlachs played in the formation and development of the Second Bulgarian Empire (also known as the Empire of Vlachs and Bulgars; founded 1184) as evidence that the centre of the Vlach population had shifted south of the Danube.
By the 13th century the Vlachs were reestablished in the lands north of the Danube, including Transylvania, where they constituted the bulk of the peasant population. From Transylvania they migrated to Walachia (“Land of the Vlachs”) and Moldavia, which became independent principalities in the 13th and 14th centuries and combined to form Romania at the end of the 19th century.
The Vlachs also lived in Macedonia, Epirus, and Thessaly. According to the 12th-century Byzantine historian Anna Comnena, they founded the independent state of Great Walachia, which covered the southern and central Pindus Mountain ranges and part of Macedonia. (After the establishment of the Latin empire at Constantinople in 1204, Great Walachia was absorbed by the Greek Despotate of Epirus; later it was annexed by the Serbs, and in 1393 it fell to the Turks.) Another Vlach settlement, called Little Walachia, was located in Aetolia and Acarnania. In addition, Vlachs known as Morlachs, or Mavrovlachi, inhabited areas in the mountains of Montenegro, Herzegovina, and northern Albania as well as on the southern coast of Dalmatia, where they founded Ragusa (modern Dubrovnik). In the 14th century some Morlachs moved northward into Croatia. In the 15th century others, later called Ćići, settled in the Istrian Peninsula.
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Mozete mrzeti Britance ali to ne osporava validnost i uticaj koju Britannica kao institucija ima u svetu .
Da napomenem, pre 2008. godine kada je revidiran clanak o vlasima, pisalo je nesto slicno kao i u wikipediji, zalim sto taj clanak nemam pri sebi da ga prilozim ali imam ga u arhivi iz 2003-e.
Mislim da je najposteniji i najnezavisniji stav koji su britanci dali, posebno
European ethnic group constituting a major element in the populations of Romania and Moldova and a smaller proportion of the population in the southern part of the Balkan Peninsula and south and west of the Danube River.
Tu vise nema govora o tome ko je stariji kokoska ili jaje, ko je placen za nesto,
ko je asimilator i slicno. Suvoparne cinjenice govore za sebe, iako nam se ne svidjaju.
najbolje je ih prijvatiti zdravog razuma i ciste savesti.
