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Zatvorena za pisanje odgovora.
Od višedecenijskog seksualnog zlostavljanja dece, preko "radnih logora" i stigmatizovanja nevenčanih majki i vanbračne dece, do zabrane abortusa i večitog prikrivanja, muljanja i sakrivanja iza svete uloge "doma Božjeg", Crkva, - a naročito mada ne i isključivo katolička - sve više gubi poverenje vernika, a sveštenici sve češće dobijaju epitete "dijalobični", "devijantni", "demonski"...

https://nova.rs/vesti/svet/ceo-vek-silovali-decu-kad-zlo-vreba-ispod-mantije/
 
robivek:
In Australia,

Iih bre sto je ovo zabavno,pa ovako mozemo do sutra... :D :D :D :D :D
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U studenom 2013. godine, sudski postupak protiv crkve ASD otkrio je dokaze da škola u sastavu crkve ASD nije uspjela napraviti vlastitu internu istragu o nizu seksualnih zlostavljanja koja su se dogodila sedamdesetih godina, navodi Sunraysia Daily. Te žrtve, prema sudskim dokumentima, tada su bile mlađe od devet godina. ... Crkva Adventista sedmog dana, tvrde tužitelji, postala je svjesna zlostavljanja u devedesetim godinama, ali je slučaj policijskim vlastima uputila tek 2012. godine.

Australska kraljevska komisija za seksualno zlostavljanje djece, osnovana 2012. godine, primila je više od 6.700 prijava seksualnog zlostavljanja, od kojih je 59% bilo u vjerskim institucijama. Više od 60 slučajeva bilo je povezano s Crkvom adventista sedmog dana. Izvor: https://abuseguardian.com/child-sex...nizations/seventh-day-adventist-church/cases/

Opet jednostavna računica:

Stanovništvo Australije: 23.000.000 (23 milijuna)
72% pripadnici neke vjerske zajednice: 0.72 x 23.000.000 = 16.560.000 (vjernika)

Pripadnici crkve ASD u Australiji: 52.000 (0.31% od ukupno 16.560.000 vjernika)
Prijavljeni slučajevi unutar crkve ASD: 60 slučajeva

Pripadnici svih ostalih vj. zajed. u Australiji: 16.560.000 - 52.000 = 16.508.000
Prijavljeno ukupno: 0.59 x 6.700 – 60 = 3953 – 60 = 3893 slučaja
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Rekapitulacija:

1. Adventisti (učestalost zlostavljanja): 60/52.000 = 0.00115

2. Ostali vjer.(učestalost zlostavljanja): 3893/16.508.000 = 0.000235

Konačni skor zlostavljanja – Adventisti : Svi ostali = 0.00115 : 0.000235 = 4.87 (487%)

Zaključak: Unutar ustanova crkve ASD u Australiji djeca se seksualno zlostavljaju 487% više nego u svim zajednicama.

Iih bre sto je ovo zabavno,pa ovako mozemo do sutra... :D :D :D :D :D
 
In 1996 Philip Jenkins, professor at the Department of Religion and History at Penn State University, questioned the theses of increased sexual abuse among priests, saying the percentage of priests accused of molesting minors is 1.8%, much of which is not about pedophilia alone.[61]

On 13 May 2017, the 100th anniversary of the alleged apparition of Mary at Fatima, where three little children were supposedly shown a vision of Hell and told that “The sins which cause most souls to go to hell are the sins of the flesh,”[62] Pope Francis acknowledged that the Vatican had a backlog of 2000 sex abuse cases.[63]

In the late 1940s, the American priest Gerald Fitzgerald founded the Congregation of the Servants of the Paraclete, a religious order that treats Roman Catholic priests who struggle with personal difficulties such as substance abuse and sexual misconduct. In a series of letters and reports to high-ranking Catholic leaders starting in the 1950s, Fitzgerald warned of substantial problems with abusive priests. He wrote, for example, "[sexual abuse] offenders were unlikely to change and should not be returned to ministry." He discussed the problem with Pope Paul VI (1963–1978) and "in correspondence with several bishops".[64]

In 2001, the Vatican first required that sex abuse cases be reported to the Vatican hierarchy; before that, it left management of the cases to local dioceses.[16] After the 2002 revelation by The Boston Globe that cases of abuse were widespread in the Church in Massachusetts and elsewhere, The Dallas Morning News did a year-long investigation.[4] It reported in 2004 that even after these revelations and public outcry, the institutional church had moved allegedly abusive priests out of the countries where they had been accused but assigned them again to "settings that bring them into contact with children, despite church claims to the contrary".[4] Among the investigation's findings was that nearly half of 200 cases "involved clergy who tried to elude law enforcement."[4]

The cases received significant media and public attention in the United States, Ireland where abuse was reported as widespread, Canada, and throughout the world.[16] In response to the attention, members of the church hierarchy have argued that media coverage has been excessive and disproportionate.[17][failed verification] According to a Pew Research Center study, media coverage was generated mostly in the United States, beginning in 2002, with a series in The Boston Globe that published hundreds of news reports. By contrast, in 2010 much of the reporting focused on child abuse in Europe.[12][13]
 
Different scandals of sexual abuse involving members of the Catholic clergy have been made public in Costa Rica, as more than ten priests have been formally accused.[65] However, one of the most recent and most dramatic events due to its media exposure occurred in 2019 when judicial accusations against the priests Mauricio Víquez[66] and Manuel Guevara[67][68] led to the search and seizure of the Episcopal Conference by the Judicial Investigation Department on 7 March 2019.[69] Víquez, who was the Episcopal Conference's spokesman and professor at the University of Costa Rica, was dismissed from the clerical state by the Holy See and the process for removal of his university tenure was started. He fled in January 2019 and was a fugitive overseas reason for which an international arrest warrant was issued against him.[70][71] He was captured in Mexico in August 2019[72] and condemned in 2022 to 20 years in prison for rape and abuse of an 11-year-old boy.[73] In the case of Guevara, parish priest of Santo Domingo de Heredia, was arrested by the authorities.[74]

Another priest wanted for sexual abuse, Jorge Arturo Morales Salazar, was arrested by the authorities while trying to escape through the Panama border and held on preventive custody.[75] Other notable cases are Father Enrique Delgado, popular figure due to his TV show La Hora Santa (The Holy Hour) who was sentenced to prison for rape and sexual abuse against three minors,[76][77] Father Enrique Vazquez who escaped the country in 1998 apparently with financial help from San Carlos' bishop Angel Sancasimiro, was captured serving as a priest in Honduras in 2007, but the charges couldn't be pressed due to the age difference of less than 28 years between the victims of 13–16 years and the perpetrator of 20 years,[65][78][79][80] and Father Minor Calvo, another TV personality with his TV show An encounter with Christ and as director of the Catholic radio station Radio maria who was found in a car with a teenager in the La Sabana Park at midnight. Although Calvo was convicted for corruption and embezzlement he was not convicted for sexual abuse.[81]
 

Dominican Republic​

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Józef Wesołowski, a Polish citizen who had been a nuncio (papal ambassador), was laicized in 2014 because of accusations of sexual abuse of minors during the five years he served as Vatican ambassador in Santo Domingo.[82] The Holy See refused to waive his diplomatic immunity in order to allow him to be judged in Santo Domingo, but charged him before the Vatican criminal tribunal. However, in July 2015 the trial was postponed due to Wesolowski's ill health; he died on 27 August 2015 before a trial could be held.[83]

El Salvador​

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Main article: Catholic Church sexual abuse cases in El Salvador
In November 2015, in El Salvador's sole non-military Catholic diocese, the Archdiocese of San Salvador, Fr. Jesus Delgado, biographer and personal secretary to Archbishop Oscar Romero[84][85] was dismissed by the Archdiocese after investigations revealed that he had molested a girl, now 42 years of age, when she was between the ages of 9 and 17.[85] Due to the statute of limitations, Delgado could not face criminal charges.[86] In December 2016, a canonical court convicted Delgado and two other El Salvador priests, Francisco Galvez and Antonio Molina, of committing acts of sex abuse between the years 1980 and 2000 and laicized them from the priesthood.[84][87][88][86]

In November 2019, the Archdiocese acknowledged sex abuse committed by Fr. Leopoldo Sosa Tolentino in 1994 and issued a public apology to his victim.[84] Tolentino was suspended from ministry and began the canonical trial process.[89] Another El Salvador priest, José Adonay Chicas Campos, was laicized in 2019 after pleading guilty to sex abuse in a criminal trial at the Vatican and sentenced to 16 years in prison.[84]
 

Honduras​

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In 2018 Pope Francis accepted the resignation of auxiliary bishop Juan José Pineda, a close aide of Cardinal Maradiaga, following revelations of sexual abuse of the seminarians and financial scandal.[90]

North America​

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Canada​

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Main article: Catholic Church sexual abuse cases in Canada
In the late 1980s, allegations were made of physical and sexual abuse committed by members of the Christian Brothers, who operated the Mount Cashel Orphanage in St. John's, Newfoundland. The government, police, and church had colluded in an attempt to cover up the allegations, but in December 1989 they were reported in the St. John's Sunday Express. Eventually more than 300 former pupils came forward with allegations of physical and sexual abuse at the orphanage.[91] The religious order that ran the orphanage filed for bankruptcy in the face of numerous civil lawsuits seeking damages.[92] Since the Mount Cashel scandal, a number of priests across Canada have been accused of sexual abuse.

In August 2005, Father Charles Henry Sylvestre of Belle River, Ontario, pleaded guilty to 47 counts of sexual abuse of females, aged between nine and fourteen years old, between 1952 and 1989.[93] Sylvestre was given a sentence in October 2006 of three years, and died 22 January 2007 after three months in prison.[94]

In 2011, Basilian priest Father William Hodgson Marshall, who died in 2014 at the age of 92, pled guilty to 16 counts of indecent assault of minors and one count of sexual assault for incidents that occurred between 1952 and 1986 when he taught at Assumption and Holy Names high schools in Windsor, plus other Catholic high schools in Toronto and Sudbury.[95] He was sentenced to two years in prison, and served 16 months of his sentence before being released on probation in 2012.[95] However, Marshall, who was given the nickname "Happy Hands" in the 1950s due to his tendency to touch students, later pled guilty to more sex abuse charges stemming from his time in Saskatchewan.[95] On 30 April 2020, the Canadian Supreme Court rejected an appeal from the Basilian Fathers of Toronto to not give Marshall victim Rod MacLeod a required payment of just over $2.5 million, including $500,000 in punitive damages, stemming from a sexual-assault case in the 1960s.[96] The payment was first ordered by a jury in April 2018.[97][9
 
On 25 August 2020, British Columbia justice David Crossin ordered the office of the Bishop of Kamloops and retired priest Erlindo Molon, who was by then 88 years old, to pay $844,140 in damages to Rosemary Anderson, who claimed Molon raped her 70 to 100 times in 1976 and 1977, beginning when she was 26 years old.[98] Anderson claimed Molon offered her counselling to help her deal with her father's death.[98] During the lawsuit, former Kamloops bishop, and future Vancouver Archbishop, Adam Exner now 90, conceded on the stand that Molon "was molesting people", including Anderson.[98] Exner also stated that Molon was not stripped of his priesthood status until after Anderson told him that Molon raped her and suggested that she marry him.[98]

By 1912, thousands of First Nations children attended residential schools, many of which were run by the Catholic Church. In 1990, Manitoba leader Phil Fontaine revealed that he had been sexually and physically abused in a Catholic residential school. He claimed that sexual abuse was common in residential schools in general. "In my grade three class, if there were 20 boys, every single one of them would have experienced what I experienced. They would have experienced some aspect of sexual abuse."[99] Canadian author and artist, Michael D. O'Brien, has also spoken out about his painful experiences of residential school abuse, revealing that "the sexual exploitation of the young has been epidemic in Catholic residential schools and orphanages."[100]

Mexico​

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Of the Catholic sexual abuse cases in Latin America, the most widely known is the sexual scandal of Father Marcial Maciel, the founder of the Legion of Christ, a Roman Catholic congregation in 1970s.[42] He had been sexually abusing at least 60 minors and fathered six children with three women. The revelations took place in 1998 after the Legion spent more than a decade denying allegations and criticizing the victims who claimed abuse. He was forced to retire from the ministry by Pope Benedict XVI in 2006.[43]

Luis Esteban Zavala Rodríguez, a priest in Irapuato, was condemned to 65 years and three months in prison and fined MXN $61,000 in January 2021 for raping a 12-year-old girl as she took catechism classes at a church in the city
 
Maki!:
Pismo kaže da postoji zapisano učenje apostola i učenje apostola predano usmenim putem. Ko odbacuje jedno od ta dva u zabludi je.
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Tacka otpada br 18.

Pismo kaze da je to zapisano biblija a predano to isto samo usmeno.
Dakle Biblija je predanje.

Evo:
2. Solunjanima 2,15Tako dakle, braćo, stojte i držite predaje, koje naučiste ili riječju ili poslanicom našom.

A vi to dmsto imate je sasvim nesto drugo.
Cak se protivi zapisanom.
I proglasili ste ga vecim od zapisanig.

A u stvari isto je.
Koja orevara?
 
Maki!:
A što bih to radio? To mi je ispod časti.
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Tebi se ,ako se dobro secam,svidelo pratiti pljuvanja onog papistu pa si ga "uz pucke" tolerisao sa izuzteno velikom saradnjom i raspolozenjem e sada su dosla nasa pet minuta koja ce trajati nesto vise od godinu dana sve dok ne potrazis da se prestane sa ovakvim stilom komunaikacije I TO DA BUDE PRAVILO ZA SVAKOG a ne samo za subotare kada imaju malu pokaznu vezbu !!!
 
The United States has been the focus of many scandals and subsequent reforms.[102] BishopAccountability.org, an "online archive established by lay Catholics", have reported over 3,000 civil lawsuits against the church,[103] some of these cases have resulted in multimillion-dollar settlements with many claimants, totaling more than $3 billion since 1950.[64][103]

While the church in the United States claims to have addressed the issue, some disagree. Mark Honigsbaum of The Guardian wrote in 2006 that, "despite the National Review Board's own estimates that there have been some 5,000 abusive priests in the US, to date 150 have been successfully prosecuted." Some critics of the church, such as Patrick Wall, attribute this to a lack of cooperation from the church. In California, for example, the archdiocese[clarification needed] has sought to block the disclosure of confidential counseling records on two priests, arguing that such action would violate their First Amendment right on religious protection.[104] Paul Lakeland claims Church leaders who enabled abuse were too frequently careless about their own accountability and the accountability of perpetrators.[105]

In 2004, the Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange settled nearly 90 cases for $100 million.[106] In July 2007, its parent archdiocese, the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles reached a settlement of 45 lawsuits for $60 million. By July 2007,[107][108] a $660 million agreement was made with more than 500 alleged victims.

In September 2007, the Roman Catholic Diocese of San Diego reached a $198.1 million "agreement with 144 childhood sexual abuse victims".[109]

In July 2008, the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Denver agreed "to pay $5.5 million to settle 18 claims of childhood sexual abuse."[110]

In 1998, the Roman Catholic Diocese of Dallas paid $30.9 million to twelve victims of one priest ($57.8 million in present-day terms).[111][112] From 2003 to 2009, nine other major settlements, involving over 375 cases with 1551 claimants/victims, resulted in payments of over US$1.1 billion.[note 2] The Associated Press estimated the settlements of sex abuse cases from 1950 to 2007 totaled more than $2 billion.[107] Addressing "a flood of abuse claims" five dioceses (Tucson, Arizona; Spokane, Washington; Portland, Oregon; Davenport, Iowa, and San Diego) got bankruptcy protection.[107] Eight Catholic dioceses have declared bankruptcy due to sex abuse cases from 2004 to 2011.[113]
 
Although bishops had been sending sexually abusive priests to facilities such as those operated by the Servants of the Paraclete since the 1950s, there was scant public discussion of the problem until the mid-1960s. Even then, most of the discussion was held amongst the Catholic hierarchy with little or no coverage in the media. A public discussion of sexual abuse of minors by priests took place at a meeting sponsored by the National Association for Pastoral Renewal held on the campus of the University of Notre Dame in 1967, to which all U.S. Catholic bishops were invited.[citation needed]

Various local and regional discussions of the problem were held by Catholic bishops in later years. However, it was not until the 1980s that discussion of sexual abuse by Roman Catholic clerics began to be covered as a phenomenon in the news media of the United States. According to the Catholic News Service, public awareness of the sexual abuse of children in the United States and Canada emerged in the late 1970s and the 1980s as an outgrowth of the growing awareness of physical abuse of children in society.[citation needed]

In September 1983, the National Catholic Reporter published an article on the topic.[114] The subject gained wider national notoriety in October 1985 when Louisiana priest Gilbert Gauthe pleaded guilty to 11 counts of molestation of boys.[115] After the coverage of Gauthe's crimes subsided, the issue faded to the fringes of public attention until the mid-1990s, when the issue was again brought to national attention after a number of books on the topic were published.[116]

In 2002, The Boston Globe's Pulitzer Prize-winning coverage of sexual abuse cases involving Catholic priests drew the attention, first of the United States and ultimately the world, to the problem.[117][118][119] Other victims began to come forward with their own allegations of abuse, resulting in more lawsuits and criminal cases.[9] Since then, the problem of clerical abuse of minors has received significantly more attention from the Church hierarchy, law enforcement agencies, government and the news media. One study shows that the Boston Globe coverage of the cases "had a negative and long-lasting effect" on Catholic school enrollment, and explained "about two-thirds of the decline in Catholic schooling."[120]

In 2003, Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Milwaukee authorized payments of as much as US$20,000 to sexually abusive priests to convince them to leave the priesthood.[121]

In July 2003, the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Louisville paid $25.7 million to "settle child sexual-abuse allegations made in 240 lawsuits naming 34 priests and other church workers."[122] In 2003, the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Boston also settled a large case for $85 million with 552 alleged victims.[123] In 2004, the Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange settled nearly 90 cases for $100 million.[124]

The Roman Catholic Diocese of Dallas paid $30.9 million in 1998 to twelve victims of one priest ($57.8 million in present-day terms[112]).[122]

In April 2007, the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Portland in Oregon agreed to a $75 million settlement with 177 claimants and the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Seattle agreed to a $48 million settlement with more than 160 victims.[125] In July 2007, the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles reached a $660 million agreement with more than 500 alleged victims, in December 2006, the archdiocese had a settlement of 45 lawsuits for $60 million.[126][127]
 
As recently as 2011, Fr Curtis Wehmeyer was allowed to work as a priest in Minnesota despite many people having reported concern about his sexual compulsion and suspicious behavior with boys. Wehmeyer was employed as a priest without proper background checks. Wehmeyer was later convicted of sexually abusing two boys. After Wehmeyer's arrest there were complaints the responsible clergy were more concerned with how to spin the story in a favorable light than in helping victims.[128]

In July 2018, Cardinal Theodore McCarrick of the Archdiocese of Washington, D.C. resigned from the College of Cardinals (the first Cardinal to do so since 1927) following allegations of abuse and attempted homosexual rape at a seaside villa.[129][130] In August, a "systematic coverup" of sex abuse by more than 300 priests in Pennsylvania parishes was revealed.[131][132] Reviewers of the situation indicated that many more victims and perpetrators were likely undiscovered.[132] In March 2018, Archbishop Anthony Apuron of Guam was removed from office by the Vatican.[1] Apuron had been accused of sexually molesting altar boys in the late 1970s. Moreover, in the latest case, priest Louis Brouillard was charged for having raped altar boys during "sleepovers" as a teenager. Over fifteen priests, two archbishops, and a bishop have been recognized in sex abuse cases, from the 1950s until the 1990s.


Addressing "a flood of abuse claims" five dioceses (Tucson, Arizona; Spokane, Washington; Portland, Oregon.; Davenport, Iowa, and San Diego) got bankruptcy protection.[127] Eight Catholic dioceses declared bankruptcy due to sex abuse cases from 2004 to 2011.[113]

On January 19, 2023, a man named Scott Verti filed a lawsuit alleging about 100 instances of abuse at St. Elizabeth Ann Seton Church in Fort Collins, Colorado, from 1998 to 2003. Due to the 2021 state law in Colorado, a three-year window period was opened to allow sexual allegations to be brought forward dating back as far as 1960. The defendant Timothy Evans, a priest was accused of sexual abuse when Verti was 13 to 18 years old.[133]

Jay Report​

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In the United States, the 2004 John Jay Report, commissioned from the John Jay College of Criminal Justice and funded by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), was based on volunteer surveys completed by the Roman Catholic dioceses in the United States. The 2004 John Jay Report was based on a study of 10,667 allegations against 4,392 priests accused of engaging in sexual abuse of a minor between 1950 and 2002.[134]
 

Withholding names of accused clergy​

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On 29 December 2019, it was revealed that numerous bishops across the United States withheld hundreds of names from their accused clergy list.[135][136][137]

Allowing accused clergy to leave country​

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On 6 March 2020, a joint investigation conducted by Propublica and the Houston Chronicle was published which revealed that the Catholic Church transferred more than 50 credibly accused U.S. Catholic clergy to other countries after sex abuse accusations surfaced against them.[138]

Vatican report on Theodore McCarrick​

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The Holy See Secretariat of State's report, published in November 2020, stated that Pope John Paul II was made aware of allegations against McCarrick but did not believe them, and that Benedict XVI, after receiving further complaints, also made little effort to stop McCarrick.[139] The report absolved Pope Francis, but placed blame on both Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI for Theodore McCarrick's rise in power they both were aware of sexual abuse allegations against him.[140]

South America​

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Argentina​

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In 2009, priest Julio César Grassi was sentenced to 15 years in prison for two counts of sexual abuse against two minors during his time at a foundation for children in need.[141]

On 17 August 2019, Argentina Bishop Sergio Buenanueva of San Francisco, Cordoba, acknowledged the history of sex abuse within the Catholic Church in Argentina.[142][143] Buenanueva, who was labeled as a "Prelate" for the Argentine Catholic Church,[143] also stated that the church's sex abuse crisis in Argentina, which is Pope Francis' native country, was "just beginning".[143]

A three-judge court cleared former priest Carlos Eduardo José, 62, of sexual abuse charges from 1999 to 2008 in Caseros, Buenos Aires because the statute of limitations had expired by March 9, 2021. The accusations date from 2009 but the church took no action until 2019. Three other complaints against the same priest by other students were earlier dismissed by other courts on statute of limitations grounds.[144]
 
Gedeon:
Inkvizicija nikada nikoga nije ubila. Svetovne vlasti su izvršavale kazne. A spaljivalo se jeretike i veštice se da se ne bi prolevala krv.
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- Katolička crkva motivirala je i aktivno sudjelovala u gotovo dva tisućljeća antisemitskog nasilja, opravdavajući ga krivnjom Židova za raspeće Isusa, sve dok Drugi Vatikanski sabor nije posramljeno povukao to učenje 1965. No, Crkva još nije nadoknadila štetu nastalu činjenicom da se papu Pija XII s pravom naziva "Hitlerovim papom."

- Tek nedavno postali smo svjesni iznimno prosvijećenih kršćanskih evanđelja koja su uskogrudni katolički prelatimi davno potisnuli.

- Nakon što su postali službena religija Rimskoga Carstva, kršćani su brzo i brutalno progonom istrijebili pagane.

- Pad Rima i uspon Crkve jako je ubrzao poniranje Europe u tisućljeće neznanja i zaostalosti. To mračno doba trajala je sve do renesanse/prosvjetiteljstva kada su se svjetovni učenjaci probili kroz stoljeća katoličkih prepreka razumu.

- Papom potaknuti križarski ratovi samo su prvo krvavo poglavlje u povijesti ničim izazvana i brutalna europskoga kolonijalizma.

- Španjolska inkvizicija mučila je i ubila golem broj nevinih ljudi za „izmišljene“ zločine, kao što su vještičarenje ili bogohuljenje.

- Katolička Crkva bojala se znanstvenika i progonila ih, što je jasno na slučaju Galileja. Stoga se znanstvena „revolucija“ dogodila uglavnom u protestantskim društvima jer samo unutar njih Katolička Crkva nije mogla suzbiti neovisnu misao.

- Budući da joj uopće nije smetalo ropstvo, Katolička Crkva nije učinila ništa da se suprotstavi njegovu uvođenju u Novi svijet niti da ga se učini humanijim.

- Sve donedavno katoličko se viđenje idealne države svodilo na frazu o "božanskom pravu kraljeva". Slijedom toga Crkva se žestoko protivila svim pokušajima uspostave liberalnijih oblika vladanja, zdušno podržavajući diktatore.

- Upravo se protestantskom reformacijom slomilo represivno katoličko kočenje napretka te uvelo kapitalizam, religijsku slobodu i moderni svijet.


Svaka od ovih izjava dio je opće kulture, široko je prihvaćena i često se ponavlja. No, svaka je od njih laž, a mnoge su potpuna suprotnost istini. Jedno poglavlje bit će posvećeno pregledu njihovih nedavnih ponavljanja te će se pokazati da je svaka zasigurno neistinita.

Možda se pitate zašto ovakve notorne laži opstaju, ako su doista neistine. Dijelom zbog toga što se jako međusobno podupiru i što su duboko utkane u našu opću kulturu tako da se čini nemogućim da ne budu istinite. Olako se pretpostavlja da bi se u našim „prosvijećenim“ vremenima takve tvrdnje zasigurno odavno odbacile kada bi bile lažne. Kad sam prvi put čuo tvrdnju da je španjolska inkvizicija prolila jako malo krvi, a usto bila i jaka potpora umjerenosti i pravdi, priznajem da sam je odbacio kao još jedan pokušaj zaostala i pažnje željna revizionizma koji traži pažnju. Međutim, bio sam šokiran kada sam nakon daljnjeg istraživanja otkrio da je u stvari, između ostaloga, upravo inkvizicija spriječila da se ubilačka manija proganjanja vještičarenja, koja je cvjetala u većini Europe tijekom 16. i 17. stoljeća, proširi na Španjolsku i Italiju. Umjesto spaljivanja vještica inkvizitori su poslali nekoliko ljudi na vješala jer su spaljivali vještice.

Nisam rimokatolik i nisam napisao ovu knjigu kako bih obranio Crkvu. Napisao sam je kako bih obranio povijest.

Rodney Stark, Lažna svjedočanstva - Raskrinkavanje stoljeća protukatoličke povijesti
 
Gedeon:
Inkvizicija nikada nikoga nije ubila. Svetovne vlasti su izvršavale kazne. A spaljivalo se jeretike i veštice se da se ne bi prolevala krv.
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tipicno jezuitski, gedo, opet zastranjujes, okrvavili su ti tvoji ruke debelo, VEKOVIMA JE KAPLJALA KRV SA NJIHOVIH ZLOCINACKIH RUKU
antilažov:
Raskrinkavanje stoljeća protukatoličke povijesti
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kada bi se lagali
ej, pa znamo vas mi iz ndh, bezveze se trudis, krvave su vam ruke stoljecima, zlocinci ste, ne mozete se oprati
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ne mozete sada vi da falsifikujete istoriju - svaka od izjava je na MESTU, rimokatolicka crkva je zlocinacka, pa da nije ne bi se protestanti odvajali od vas, ne biste se klali u ratu, i optuzivali jedni druge da su antihrist, oni su vas zao plod po kojem i vas poznajemo

samo smo mi pravoslavni ispravni, PRAVI, vi svi ste otpali, tuzna istina, badava se perete sad

jel shvatas ti da je vama pred ocima krst i raspece, a nama vaskrsenje? jel shvatas sustinsku razliku izmedju nas i vas? vi ste ga raspeli, RIMLJANI, zato nosite krst sa raspeteim Hristom, a nama je krst znak DRUGOG DOLASKA, ne prikazejemo Hrista na njemu, kao vi, UBICE
 
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