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Gay priests and homosexuality​

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Further information: Debate on the causes of clerical child abuse § Gay priests and homosexuality
According to the John Jay Report, 80.9% of the abuse victims in the United States were male,[324] and a study by Thomas Plante found the number may be as high as 90%.[325] A number of books, such as The Rite of Sodomy: Homosexuality and the Roman Catholic Church, have argued that homosexual priests view sex with minors as a "rite of passage" for altar boys and other pre-adult males.[326] William Donohue of the Catholic League said that the Church's child sexual abuse problem was really a "homosexual crisis",[327] which some have dismissed as unwarranted by stating a lack of correlation between a man identifying as homosexual and any particular likelihood he will abuse children.[328] Research on pedophilia in general shows a majority of abusers identify themselves as heterosexual,[329] and the Causes and Context Study of the John Jay Institute found no statistical support for linking homosexual identity and sexual abuse of minors.[330] Additionally The New York Times reported "the abuse decreased as more gay priests began serving the church."[331]

Impact of psychology from previous decades​

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Some bishops and psychiatrists have asserted that the prevailing psychology of the times suggested that people could be cured of such behavior through counseling.[332] Thomas Plante, a psychologist specializing in abuse counseling and considered an expert on clerical abuse, states "the vast majority of the research on sexual abuse of minors didn't emerge until the early 1980s. So, it appeared reasonable at the time to treat these men and then return them to their priestly duties. In hindsight, this was a tragic mistake."[53]

Robert S. Bennett, the Roman Catholic Washington attorney who headed the National Review Board's research committee, identified "too much faith in psychiatrists" as one of the key problems concerning Catholic sex abuse cases.[333] About 40% of the abusive priests had received counseling before being reassigned.[334]
 
znači majstor si da ljudima zgadiš da udju na temu sa tvojim beskonačnim postovima i citatima
po pravilniku ti beskonačni postovi se stavljaju u spijler da ne trošiš ljudima celu stranu na tvoj post
ali majstor maki je sveznalica pa svašta nešto prolazi kod njega
Izvini jel ti to meni ?

...i to bas sada kada sam u sred pokaznoj vezbi namenjenoj upravo tvom omiljenom modu i njegovom verskom pajtasu,papistu ???

Jesi li me ikad na ovom forumu videla da ovako pisem,zar ti nije cudno zasto se bas sada to desilo ?
Molim te pogledaj malo kako su stvari isle do danas i sta se desilo NAKON MOG UPOZORERNJA ???
 
Izvini jel ti to meni ?

...i to bas sada kada sam u sred pokaznoj vezbi namenjenoj upravo tvom omiljenom modu i njegovom verskom pajtasu,papistu ???

Jesi li me ikad na ovom forumu videla da ovako pisem,zar ti nije cudno zasto se bas sada to desilo ?
Molim te pogledaj malo kako su stvari isle do danas i sta se desilo NAKON MOG UPOZORERNJA ???
ček da očistim naočare :cistinaocare: i pripremim se za trosatno čitanje tvojih postova :lol:

nemam preča posla :jede2:
 
Ajd molim te citiraj me kad sam ja ikada posezao za seksualnim skandalima u adventizmu?
Maki bato,ti si se prestrojio u brigadu verskih istiomisljenika s kojim branite istu zastavu i ti si sutke gledao sta su sve iznosili tvoji agilni pljuvaci a reagovao nisi !!!
Upozoravao je Glasnik a na kraju sam to poceo i ja ali ste se vi nasladjivali vasim bljuvotinama i eto,pala nam ideja / predlog da vam odrzimo jednu pokaznu vezbu kako bi resetirali stil pisanja i vratimo se onom sto mu pravo mesto ovde na ovom pdf-u !!!

Ja jos uvek cekam tvoj novi predlog kako cemo i sta cemo dalje !
 
In 2019, Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI published a letter[335] (in German and then translated into English) in which he provided a unified perspective on several issues that, together, he believes contributed to the sexual abuse scandal. One of the chief reasons put forth by the Pope was the push by several prominent theologians for relativistic perspectives on morality where "there could no longer be anything that constituted an absolute good, any more than anything fundamentally evil; (there could be) only relative value judgments."

Pedophilia and ephebophilia​

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In Sexual Addiction and Compulsivity: The Journal of Treatment and Prevention, Cimbolic & Cartor (2006) noted that because of the large share of post-pubescent male minors among cleric victims there is need to further study the differential variables related to ephebophilia (sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19)[336][337] versus pedophilia (sexual interest in prepubescent children, generally those 13 years of age or younger) offenders.[338] Cartor, Cimbolic & Tallon (2008) found that 6 percent of the cleric offenders in the John Jay Report are pedophiles, 32 percent ephebophiles, 15 percent attracted to 11- and 12-year-olds only (both male and female), 20 percent indiscriminate, and 27 percent mildly indiscriminate.[339] Professor of psychology Thomas Plante (2004) criticized these findings, citing a report by Stephen Joseph Rossetti which found that only about 1% of Catholic priests have had a sexual experience with a child, while an additional 1% has had a sexual experience with an adolescent - totaling 2% of all Catholic clergy. This report also found that 80 percent to 90 percent of sexual abuse of children perpetrated by Catholic priests is directed towards adolescent boys; therefore, pedophilia among Catholic clergy appears to be rare with ephebophilia being more typical.[30]

They also found distinct differences between the pedophile and ephebophile groups. They reported that there may be "another group of offenders who are more indiscriminate in victim choice and represent a more heterogeneous, but still a distinct offender category" and suggested further research to determine "specific variables that are unique to this group and can differentiate these offenders from pedophile and ephebophile offenders" so as to improve the identification and treatment of both offenders and victims.[339]

All victims in the John Jay report were minors. Using a non-standard definition of "pre-pubescent", the Causes and Context Study of the John Jay College estimated that only a small percentage of offender priests were true pedophiles.[330] The study classified victims as pre-pubescent if they were age 10 or younger, whereas the age bracket specified in the current guidelines issued by the American Psychiatric Association is "generally age 13 or younger". A recent book estimates that if the latter definition were used instead of the former, the percentage of victims classified as prepubescent would have been 54% rather than the 18% figure cited by the Causes and Context report, and that a higher percentage of priests would therefore have been classified as pedophiles.[340]

Statement of Pope Francis​

 
In July 2014, Pope Francis was quoted as having said in an interview that about 8,000 Catholic clergy (2% of the total), including bishops and cardinals, were pedophiles.[341] The Vatican indicated the interview had not been recorded nor notes taken during it and that quotes may have been misattributed in a deliberate attempt to manipulate readers. They stated that Pope Francis had not indicated that any cardinal abusers remained in their position.[342][343]

Shortage of priests​

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It has been argued that a shortage of priests caused the Roman Catholic hierarchy to act in such a way to preserve the number of clergy and ensure that sufficient numbers were available to man their congregations despite serious allegations that some of these priests were unfit for duty.[344]

Purported declining standards in the prevailing culture​

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In The Courage To Be Catholic: Crisis, Reform, and the Future of the Church, author George Weigel claims that it was the infidelity to orthodox Roman Catholic teaching, the "culture of dissent" of priests, women religious, bishops, theologians, catechists, Church bureaucrats, and activists who "believed that what the Church proposed as true was actually false" was mainly responsible for the sexual abuse of parishioners' children by their priests.[345] Cardinal Theodore Edgar McCarrick, a retired Archbishop of Washington who was himself later laicized due to sexual misconduct, blamed the declining morals of the late 20th century as a cause of the high number of child molestations by priests.[346]

The hypothesis that a purported decline in general moral standards was associated with an increase in abuse by clergy was promoted by a study by John Jay College funded by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. The study claimed that the liberal 1960s caused the increase in abuse, and the conservative Reagan years led to its decline. The study was branded the 'Woodstock Defence' by critics who said that the study's own figures showed a surge in abuse reported from the 1950s, and the passage of time meant that reports of abuse from earlier decades were unlikely.[347]

Seminary training​

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The 2004 John Jay Report, a report commissioned by the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, stated "the problem was largely the result of poor seminary training and insufficient emotional support for men ordained in the 1940s and 1950s."[348] A report by the National Review Board issued simultaneously with the John Jay Report pointed to two major deficiencies on the part of seminaries: failure to screen candidates adequately, followed by failure to "form" these candidates appropriately for the challenges of celibacy. These themes are taken up by a recent memoir by Vincent J. Miles[340] that combines a first-hand account of his life in a minor seminary during the 1960s with a review of the scientific literature about sexually abusive behavior. Miles identifies specific aspects of seminary life that could have predisposed future priests to engage in such behavior.

Male dominated culture of the church​

 
Italian academic Lucetta Scaraffia [it] wrote in L'Osservatore Romano that a greater presence of women in the Vatican could have prevented clerical sexual abuse from taking place.[319]

This view has been challenged and severely criticized by several scholars for denying the cases of nuns implicated in sexual abuse and pedophilia. In 1986, a history scholar from Stanford University recovered archival information about investigations from 1619 to 1623 involving nuns in Vellano, Italy, secretly exploiting illiterate nuns for several years.[349] In 1998, a religious research national survey on revealed a very high number of nuns reporting childhood victimizations of sexual abuse by other nuns. It was further noted that the majority of nun-abuse victims are of the same sex.[350] In 2002, Markham examined the sexual histories of nuns to find several cases of nuns sexually abusing children.[351]

Church responses​

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Main article: Ecclesiastical response to Catholic sex abuse cases
The responses of the Catholic Church to the sex abuse cases can be viewed on three levels: the diocesan level, the episcopal conference level, and the Vatican. Responses to the scandal proceeded at levels in parallel, with the higher levels becoming progressively more involved as the gravity of the problem became more apparent. For the most part, responding to allegations of sexual abuse in a diocese was left to the jurisdiction of the local bishop or archbishop. According to Thomas Plante, a psychologist specializing in abuse counseling and considered an expert on clerical abuse, "unlike most large organizations that maintain a variety of middle management positions, the organizational structure of the Catholic Church is a fairly flat structure. Therefore, prior to the Church clergy abuse crisis in 2002, each bishop decided for himself how to manage these cases and the allegations of child sexual abuse by priests. Some have handled these matters very poorly (as evidenced in Boston) while others have handled these issues very well."[54]

After the number of allegations exploded following The Boston Globe's series of articles, the breadth and depth of the scandals became apparent in dioceses across the United States. The U.S. bishops felt compelled to formulate a coordinated response at the episcopal conference level. Although the Vatican did not respond immediately to the series of articles published by The Boston Globe in 2002, it has been reported that Vatican officials were, in fact, monitoring the situation in the U.S. closely.[352]

John L. Allen Jr., senior correspondent for the National Catholic Reporter, characterized the reaction of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) as calling for "swift, sure and final punishment for priests who are guilty of this kind of misconduct."[352] In contrast to this, Allen characterized the Vatican's primary concern as wanting to make sure "that everyone's rights are respected, including the rights of accused clergy" and wanting to affirm that it is not acceptable to "remedy the injustice of sexual abuse with the injustice of railroading priests who may or may not be guilty."[352]

Communis Vita

 
On 26 March 2019, Pope Francis made public an apostolic letter titled Communis Vita (Community Life). The letter, which was issued on 19 March 2019, amends Canon Law and requires superiors to a local religious to dismiss any member of their "religious house" if they have been absent for 12 months and out of contact.[353] Canon Law already required superiors to track them down and encourage them to return to their local order after they have been absent for six months.[354] The policy officially came into effect on 10 April 2019.[354][355] Parish transfers of abusive priests have existed in numerous Catholic sex abuse cases.[9][332]

Diocesan responses​

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Ireland​

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In 2009, eighteen religious orders agreed to pay €1.2 billion compensation to childhood victims of sexual abuse,[356] a 10 times increase from the €128 million compensation agreed in 2002, on the condition that the identities of abusers must be kept secret,[357] and victims will forgo the right to sue church and government.[356] Money was raised mainly by selling church property to government.[357]

Catholic Church Commission on Child Sexual Abuse (Ireland), also known as the Hussey Commission, was established by church in 2001 to investigate how complaints about clerical abuse of minors have been handled over the last three decades. In 2010 Vatican announced an investigation into Irish Catholic Establishment's handling of the sex abuse and subsequent scandal.[358]

Philippines​

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After the media in Philippines began reporting on sexual abuses by local catholic priests, in 2002 the Catholic Bishops' Conference of the Philippines apologized for sexual misconduct committed by its priests over the last two decades and committed to drafting guidelines on how to deal with allegations of such offenses. CBCP President Archbishop Orlando Quevedo stated that over the previous two decades nearly 200 of country's 7,000 catholic priests may have committed "sexual misconduct including child abuse, homosexuality and affairs".[359]

In August 2011, after women's rights group GABRIELA assisted a 17-year-old girl in filing sexual abuse allegations against a Catholic priest in Butuan, the local bishop, Juan de Dios Pueblos, took the accused priest under his custody without handing him over to civil and church authorities.[360] This behavior was also heavily criticized by retired Archbishop Oscar Cruz, who blamed Pueblos for showing his priests the "wrong way".[361]

United States​

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According to the John Jay Report, one in four child sex abuse allegations were made within 10 years of the incident.[362] Half were made between 10 and 30 years after the incident and the remaining 25% were reported more than 30 years after the incident.[362] The Report points at: failure by the RCC hierarchy in the United States to grasp the seriousness of the problem, overemphasis on the need to avoid a scandal, use of unqualified treatment centers for clergy removed for rehabilitation, a sort of misguided willingness by bishops to forgive sexual misconduct as a moral failing and not treat it a crime, allowance of recidivism upon reassignment of the priest, and insufficient accountability of the hierarchy for inaction.[363]
 
Maki bato,ti si se prestrojio u brigadu verskih istiomisljenika s kojim branite istu zastavu i to si sutke gledao sta su sve iznosili tvoji agilni pljuvaci a reagovao nisi !!!
To je neistina. Brisane su uvredljive poruke i Glasnikove i Tomove i antilažovljeve. Većina Glasnikovih prijava je usvojena i reagovano je adekvatno.

Upozoravao je Glasnik a na kraju sam to poceo i ja ali ste se vi nasladjivali vasim bljuvotinama i eto,pala nam ideja / predlog da vam odrzimo jednu pokaznu vezbu kako bi resetirali stil pisanja i vratimo se onom sto mu pravo mesto ovde na ovom pdf-u !!!
Ja jos uvek cekam tvoj novi predlog kako cemo i sta cemo dalje !
Moj prijedlog je da se vratite u normalu inače će biti sankcija.
 
Since 2002, a major focus of the lawsuits and media attention has been criticism of the approach taken by bishops when dealing with allegations of sexual abuse by priests. As a general rule, the allegations were not reported to legal authority for investigation and prosecution. Instead, many dioceses directed the offending priests to seek psychiatric treatment and for assessment of the risk of re-offending. In 2004, according to the John Jay report, nearly 40% of accused priests participated in psychiatric treatment programs. The remaining priests did not undergo abuse counseling because allegations of sexual abuse were only made after their death. The more allegations made against a priest, the more likely he was to participate in treatment.[304]

Some bishops repeatedly moved offending priests from parish to parish after abuse counseling, where they still had personal contact with children.[9] According to the USCCB, Catholic bishops in the 1950s and 1960s viewed sexual abuse by priests as "a spiritual problem, one requiring a spiritual solution, i.e. prayer".[364]

However, starting in the 1960s, the bishops came to adopt an emerging view based on the advice of medical personnel who recommended psychiatric and psychological treatment for those who sexually abused minors. This view asserted that with treatment, priests who had molested children could safely be placed back into ministry, although perhaps with certain restrictions such as not being in contact with children.[365] This approach viewed pedophilia as an addiction, such as alcoholism which can be treated and restrained.[364]

Some of the North American treatment facilities most frequently used for this purpose included the Saint Luke Institute in Maryland; centers operated by the Servants of the Paraclete in Jemez Springs, New Mexico, and St. Louis, Missouri; John Vianney Center in Downingtown, Pennsylvania.; the Institute of Living in Hartford, Connecticut; and the Southdown Institute near Toronto, Ontario, in Canada.[366] This approach continued into the mid-1980s, a period which the USCCB characterizes as the "tipping point in the understanding of the problem within the church and in society".[364] According to researcher Paul Isley, however, research on priest offenders is virtually nonexistent and the claims of unprecedented treatment success with clergy offenders have not been supported by published data.[367]

Prevention efforts​

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The USCCB perceived a lack of adequate procedures for the prevention of sexual abuse of minors, the reporting of allegations of such abuse and the handling of those reports. In response to deficiencies in canonical and secular law, both ecclesiastical and civil authorities have implemented procedures and laws to prevent sexual abuse of minors by clergy and to report and punish it if and when it occurs. In June 2002, the USCCB adopted a zero tolerance policy to future sex abuse that required responding to allegations of sexual abuse.[368] It promulgated a Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People that pledged the Catholic Church in the U.S. to providing a "safe environment" for all children in Church-sponsored activities.[368]

The Charter instituted reforms to prevent future abuse by requiring background checks for Church employees.[369] The Charter requires dioceses faced with an allegation to alert the authorities, conduct an investigation and remove the accused from duty.[369] A Dallas Morning News article reported nearly two-thirds of the bishops attending the conference had covered for sexually abusive priests.[370] According to Catholic News Service by 2008, the U.S. church had trained "5.8 million children to recognize and report abuse," run criminal checks on volunteers and employees and trained them to create a safe environment for children.[371]

Analysing the results of prevention reforms implemented in the 1990s and 2000s, the John Jay report from May 2011 found a "marked decrease in the incidence and a sustained suppression of abusive behavior" in the 1980s, and stated that sexual abuse in the Catholic Church declined sharply in the 1980s and continued to decline in the 1990s and 2000s.[372] The report recorded 975 sexual abuse cases by Catholic priests between 1985 and 1989, 253 between 1995 and 1999, and 73 for the years 2004–2008. According to the report, there have been "continuing very low levels of sexual abuse of minors" in the Catholic Church ever since the early 2000s;[373] The report also stated that though "more cases of sexual abuse continue to be reported to dioceses today, almost all of these allegations are of abuse that occurred decades earlier."[374] A majority of sexual abuse cases in the Catholic Church involve incidents that occurred between 1950 and 1969; the overwhelming majority of these cases involve priests who were ordained before 1970. In comparison, less than 2% of sexual abuse cases in the Catholic Church concerned priests ordained after 1989.[372]
 
znači majstor si da ljudima zgadiš da udju na temu sa tvojim beskonačnim postovima i citatima
po pravilniku ti beskonačni postovi se stavljaju u spijler da ne trošiš ljudima celu stranu na tvoj post
ali majstor maki je sveznalica pa svašta nešto prolazi kod njega
ja ne znam dal uopšte neko to čita pa i ovaj što postavlja :D
 
Vecina poruka kazes usvojena,valjda ono kad ga neko psovao sve po spisku ili koristio izuzetno vulgarne reci ?

Tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Maki majstore,konacno si pokazao kako se radi sa pozicije vlasti i to bas sada,kada smo malo uzvratili onom tvom verskom pajtashu,mislim na onog pljuvackog papistu...!!!


A NIJE TE BILO KADA JE ON PLJUVAO PA DA SE SETIS DA TAKVOM STILU PISANJA NIJE MESTO NA OVOM PDF-U !??????????????


Utroliko vise sta ja ovde citiram bre oficijalne podatke i nikog ne vredjam nit donosim zakljuccke kao sto ste radili ti i tvcoj papista !!!


Tolko nam je bilo brate Glasnik.,nista od onog mog optimizma da cemo stici do 1001 razloga koje si poceo zapisivati,"vracamo trupe u kasarnama".

Bitno je da nam je pokazna vezba bila uspesna,dokazalo se kako stvari zaista stoje !!!
Dosta više. Na ucjene ne pristajem niti ću ikada pristati. Otkad sam moderator MAKSIMALNO SAM TOLERANTAN i stvarno puštam svašta da se piše jer ne želim da se sprovodi cenzura. Ali da mi neko drži Damoklov mač iznad glave da brišem teološke kritike jer se nekome to ne sviđa je previše. Ponavljam, brisao sam sve lične uvrede i svako nabijanje skandalima. Teološku kritiku neću brisati nikada. Ne brišem je za pravoslavlje a da ću za vas.
Kraj priče.
 
To je neistina. Brisane su uvredljive poruke i Glasnikove i Tomove i antilažovljeve. Većina Glasnikovih prijava je usvojena i reagovano je adekvatno.


Moj prijedlog je da se vratite u normalu inače će biti sankcija.
Opa bato...
Pravoslavlje u opasnosti je li?

Uzivao si 3 meseca pljuvanje na druge koje si podrzavao.
Alii ne mozes 3 sata istinu o vama?
Pritisak je veliki tvoje brace pit bula koji su pljucävali za tebe.

To si trebao da kazes tvojim pljuvacima pa ne bi doslo do ovoga.

Moras skroz da stavis u normalu tvoje pitbule.
Nas odgovor ce doci posle svakog napada tvojih pitbula.

Tomi me je vredjao svakojakim recima, nazivanjem bmnesrecnice.
Ne mozes ti to da uporedjujes sa nama.
Vas niko ne vredja licno.
 
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