cim procitam rec "Dunav", znam na sta ciljas
tamo dolaze iz istog pravca a zna se da sa sobom donose elemente pisma koji imaju vezu sa Vincom. Za Etrurce se zna da su poreklom iz Male Azije a ja sam xyz puta govorio da je kultura Vinca poreklom sa istog podrucja.
A ko ovde tvrdi da su I2a ziveli u kulturi Vinca?
Očigledno ne znaš.
Za Etrurce se
ne zna da su poreklom iz Male Azije.
Ponoviću:
Nisam ja obožavalac I2a kulta.
HG kao svaka druga. Nešto govori o našoj novijoj prošlosti, ali ne i o dubljim slojevima.
Ne znam ko tvrdi da je u Vinči bilo I2a HG.
Lično ne zanam, mada bi bilo čudno da je nema obzirom da je ima u celoj Evropi, a I2 i u Anadoiji,
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"There is no mention of haplogroups in the paper, and it appears they did not attempt to assign the ancient DNA samples to haplogroups, so I looked at the 30 ancient mtDNA haplotypes listed in Table S1.
Seven of them appear to be U5, although they only identified the U5 defining mutation 16270 in two of the seven, and they seem to have missed several other mutations that should be present. For example, samples Hap4 and Hap5 are both
U5a2a (based on the combination of 16114a and 16294). U5a2a should also have mutations at 16256, 16270 and 16526, but they miss all 3 of these in Hap4, while they only found 16256 in Hap5. So based on the U5 samples, they appear to have a high error rate of missed markers in their results.
Eight of the samples appear to be
J, based on the mutation at 16126. Two of the samples might be
H1b based on the mutation at 16356. I can't identify haplogroups for any of the remaining 13 samples. Six of the samples are CRS, but given that they missed 16270 in most of the apparent U5 samples, it is really impossible to guess what haplogroup the CRS samples might be.
Figure 3, the median joining network, has the haplotypes scrambled in a way that has no connection to their actual relationship in the phylgeographic tree. So that makes wonder if the rest of their analysis is meaningful.
Obviously they need to do additional sequencing on 13 of the 30 samples to identify their haplogroup. But the results we have so far seem to show the ancient Etruscans samples dominated by haplogroups J and U5. "
