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Наравно да је Динарски тип био у врху зато што су још тада знали да су многи њихови сународници припадници тог типа.

Наишао сам на једну интересантну дискусију:

Is European Music a Predominartly Alpine and Dinaric Phenomenon?

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THE ALPINE RACE
THE Alpine race is clearly of Eastern and Asiatic origin. It forms the westernmost extension of a widespread subspecies which, outside of Europe, occupies Asia Minor, Iran, the Pamirs, and the Hindu Kush. In fact the western Himalayas were probably its centre of original evolution and radiation, and its Asiatic members constitute a distinct subdivision, the Armenoids.

The Alpine race is distinguished by a round face and correspondingly round skull which in the true Armenians has a peculiar, sugarloaf shape, a character which can be easily recognized. The Alpines must not be confounded with the sliteyed Mongols who centre around Thibet and the steppes of north Asia. The fact that both these races are round skulled does not involve identity of origin any more than the long skulls of the Nordics and of the Mediterraneans require that they be both considered of the same subspecies, although good anthropologists have been misled by this parallelism. The Alpines are of stocky build and moderately short stature, except where they have been crossed with

Nordic elements. This race is also characterized by dark hair, tending to a dark brown color, and in Europe at the present time the eye is usually dark but sometimes grayish. The ancestral Proto-Alpines from the highlands of western Asia must, of course, have had brunet eyes, and very dark, probably black, hair. Whether we are justified in considering gray eyes peculiar to populations of mixed Alpine and Nordic blood is difficult to determine, but one thing is certain, the combination of blue eyes and flaxen hair is never Alpine.

The European Alpines retain very little of their Asiatic origin, except the skull, and have been in contact with the Nordic race so long that in central and western Europe they are everywhere saturated with the blood of that race. Many populations now considered good Germans, such as the majority of the Wurtembergers, Bavarians, Austrians Swiss, and Tyrolese, are merely Teutonized Alpines.

The first appearance in Europe of the Alpines, dates from the Azilian Period when it is represented by the Furfooz-Grenelle race. There were, later, several invasions of this race which entered Europe during Neolithic times from the Asia Minor plateaux, by way of the Balkans and the valley of the Danube. It appears also to have passed north of the Black Sea, as some slight traces have been discovered there of round skulls which long ante-

date the existing population, but the Russian brachycephaly of to-day is of much later origin.

This race in its final expansion far to the northwest, ultimately reached Norway, Denmark, and Holland, and planted among the dolichocephalic natives small colonies of round skulls, which still exist. When this invasion reached the extreme northwest of Europe its energy was spent, and the invaders were soon forced back into central Europe by the Nordics. The Alpines at this time of maximum extension, about 1800 B.C., crossed into Britain, and a few reached Ireland and introduced bronze into both these islands. As the metal appears about the same time in Sweden, it is safe to assume that it was introduced by this same invasion, a record of which persists to this day in the existence of a colony of round skulls in southwest Norway.

Bronze culture everywhere antedates the earliest appearance of the Celtic-speaking Nordics in western Europe.

The men of the Round Barrows in England were Alpines, but their numbers were so scanty that they have not left behind them in the skulls of the living population any demonstrable evidence of their conquest. If we are ever able to accurately dissect out the various strains that enter, in more or less minute quantities, into the blood of the British Isles, we shall find traces of these

Round Barrow men as well as other interesting and ancient remnants, especially in the western isles and peninsulas.

In the study of European populations the great and fundamental fact about the British Isles is the absence there to-day of Alpine round skulls. It is the only important state in Europe in which the round skulls play no part, and the only nation of any rank composed solely of Nordic and Mediterranean races in approximately equal numbers. To this fact is undoubtedly due many of the individualities of the English nation.

The invasion of central Europe by Alpines, which occurred in the Neolithic, following in the wake of the Azilian forerunners of the same type- the Furfooz-Grenelle race - represented a very great advance in culture. They brought with them from Asia the art of domesticating animals and the first knowledge of the cereals and of pottery, and were an agricultural race in sharp contrast to the flesh eating hunters who preceded them.

The Neolithic populations of the lake dwellings in Switzerland and the extreme north of Italy, which flourished about 5000 B.C., all belonged to this Alpine race. A comparison of the scanty physical remains of these lake dwellers with the inhabitants of the existing villages on the lake shores demonstrates that the skull shape has changed little or not at all during the last seven thousand years, and affords us another proof of the persistency of unit characters.

This Alpine race in Europe is now so thoroughly acclimated that it is no longer Asiatic in any respect, and has nothing in common with the Mongols except its round skulls. Such Mongolian elements as exist to-day in scattered groups throughout eastern Europe are remnants of the later invasions of Tatar hordes which, beginning with Attila in the fifth century, ravaged eastern Europe for hundreds of years.

In western and central Europe the present distribution of the Alpine race is a substantial recession from its original extent, and it has been everywhere conquered and completely swamped by Celtic and Teutonic speaking Nordics. Beginning with the first appearance of the Celtic-speaking Nordics in western Europe, this race has been obliged to give ground, but has mingled its blood everywhere with the conquerors, and now after centuries of obscurity it appears to be increasing again at the expense of the master race.

The Alpines reached Spain, as they reached Britain, in small numbers and with spent force, but they still exist along the Cantabrian Alps as well as on the northern side of the Pyrenees, among the French Basques. There are also dim traces all along the north African coast of a round skull

invasion about 3000 B.C. through Syria, Egypt, Tripoli, and Tunis, and from there through Sicily to southern Italy.

The Alpine race forms to-day, as in Caesar's time, the great bulk of the population of central France, with a Nordic aristocracy resting upon it. They occupy, as the lower classes, the uplands of Belgium, where, known as Walloons, they speak an archaic French dialect closely related to the ancient langue d'oil. They form a majority of the upland population of Alsace, Lorraine, Baden, Wurtemberg, Bavaria, Tyrol, Switzerland, and north Italy; in short of the entire central massif of Europe. In Bavaria and the Tyrol the Alpines are so thoroughly Teutonized that their true racial affinities are betrayed by their round skulls alone.

When we reach Austria we come in contact with the Slavic-speaking nations which form a subdivision of the Alpine race, appearing late in history and radiating from the Carpathian Mountains. In western and central Europe, in relation to the Nordic race, the Alpine is everywhere the ancient, underlying, and submerged type. The fertile lands, river valleys, and the cities are in the hands of the Teutons, but in eastern Germany and Poland we find conditions reversed. Here is an old Nordic broodland, with a Nordic substratum underlying the bulk of the peasantry; which now consists of round skull Alpine Slavs. On top of these again we have an aristocratic upper class of relatively recent introduction. In eastern Germany this upper class is Saxon, and in Austria it is Swabian and Bavarian.
 
The introduction of Slavs in east Germany is known to be by infiltration and not by conquest. In the fourth century these Wends were called Venethi, Antes, and Sclaveni, and were described as strong in numbers but despised in war. Through the neglect of the Teutons they were allowed to range far and wide from their homes near the northeastern Carpathians, and to occupy the lands formerly belonging to the German nations, who had abandoned their country and flocked into the Roman Empire. Goth, Burgund, Lombard, and Vandal were replaced by the lowly Wend, and his descendants to-day form the privates in the east German regiments, while the officers are everywhere recruited from the Nordic upper class. The medieval relation of these Slavic tribes to the dominant Teuton, is well expressed in the meaning slave-which has been attached to their name in western languages.

The occupation of eastern Germany and Poland by the Slavs probably occurred from 400 A.D. to 700 A.D., but these Alpine elements were reinforced from the east and south from time to time during the succeeding centuries. Beginning early in the tenth century, under their Emperor, Henry

the Fowler, the Saxons turned their attention eastward, and during the next two centuries they reconquered and thoroughly Germanized all this section of Europe.

A similar series of changes in racial predominance took place in Russia where, in addition to a nobility largely Nordic, a section of the population is of ancient Nordic type, although the bulk of the peasantry consists of Alpine Slavs.

The Alpines in eastern Europe are represented by various branches of the Slavic nations. Their area of distribution was split into two sections by the occupation of the great Dacian plain by the Hungarians in about 900 A.D. These Magyars came from somewhere in eastern Russia beyond the sphere of Aryan speech, and their invasion separated the northern Slavs, known as Wends, Czechs, Slovaks, and Poles, from the southern Slavs, known as Serbs and Croats. These southern Slavs entered the Balkan Peninsula in the sixth century from the northeast, and to-day form the great mass of the population there.

The center of radiation of all these Slavic-speaking Alpines was located in the Carpathians, especially the Ruthenian districts of Galicia and eastward to the neighborhood of the Pripet swamps and the head-waters of the Dnieper in Polesia, where the Slavic dialects are believed to have developed, and whence they spread throughout Russia about the eighth century. These early Slavs were probably the Sarmatians of the Greek and Roman writers, and their name " Venethi" seems to have been a later designation. The original Proto-Slavic language, being Aryan, must have been at some distant date imposed by Nordics on the Alpines, but its development into the present Slavic tongues was chiefly the work of Alpines.

In other words, the expansion of the Alpines of the Slavic-speaking group seems to have occurred between 400 and 900 A.D., and they have spread in the East over areas which were originally Nordic, very much as the Teutons had previously overrun and submerged the earlier Alpines in the West. The Mongol, Tatar, and Turk, who invaded Europe much later, have little in common with the Alpine race, except the round skull. All these purely Asiatic types have been thoroughly absorbed and Europeanized, except in certain localities in Russia, especially in the east and south, where Mongoloid tribes have maintained their type either in isolated and relatively large groups, or side by side with their Slavic neighbors. In both cases the isolation is maintained by religious and social differences.

The Avars, also of Asiatic origin, preceded the Magyars in Hungary and the Slavs in the Balkans, but they have merged with the latter without leaving traces that can be identified, unless certain

Mongoloid characters found in Bulgaria are of this origin.

The original physical type of the Magyars and the European Turks has now practically vanished, as a result of prolonged intermarriage with the original inhabitants of Hungary and the Balkans. These tribes have left little behind but their language, and in the case of the Turks, their religion. The brachycephalic Hungarians to-day resemble the Austrian-Germans much more than they do the Slavic-speaking populations surrounding them on the north and south, or the Rumanians on the east.

Following in the wake of the Avars, the Bulgarians appeared south of the Danube about the end of the seventh century, coming from eastern Russia, where the remnants of their kindred still persist along the Volga. To-day they conform physically in the western half of the country with the Alpine Serbs, and in the eastern half with the Mediterranean race, as do also the Rumanians of the Black Sea coast.

Little or nothing remains of the ancestral Bulgars except their name. Language, religion, and nearly, but not quite all, of the physical types have disappeared.

The early members of the Nordic race, in order to reach the Mediterranean world, had to pass through the Alpine populations, and must have absorbed a certain amount of Alpine blood. Therefore the Umbrians in Italy and the Gauls of western Europe, while predominantly Nordic, were more mixed with Alpine blood than were the Belgae or Cymry, or their Teutonic successors, who, as Goths, Vandals, Burgundians, Helvetians, Alemanni, Saxons, Franks, Lombards, Danes, and Northmen, appear in history as pure Nordics of the Teutonic group.

In some portions of their range, notably Savoy and central France, the Alpine race is much less affected by Nordic influence than elsewhere, but on the other hand shows signs of a very ancient admixture with Mediterranean and even earlier elements. Brachycephalic Alpine populations in comparative purity still exist in the interior of Brittany, although almost completely surrounded by Nordic populations.

While the Alpines were everywhere swamped and driven to the fastnesses of the mountains, the warlike and restless nature of the Nordics has enabled the more stable Alpine population to slowly reassert itself, and Europe is probably much more Alpine to-day than it was fifteen hundred years ago.

The early Alpines made very large contributions to the civilization of the world, and were the medium through which many advances in culture were introduced from Asia into Europe. This race at the time of its first appearance in the west brought to the nomad hunters the knowledge of

agriculture and of primitive pottery and of the domestication of animals, and thus made possible a great increase in population and the establishment of permanent settlements. Still later its final expansion was the means through which the knowledge of metals reached the Mediterranean and Nordic populations of the west and north. Upon the appearance on the scene of the Nordics the Alpine race lost its identity and sank to the subordinate and obscure position which it still occupies.

In western Asia members of this race are entitled to the honor of the earliest civilization of which we have knowledge, namely, that of Sumer and its northerly neighbor, Accad in Mesopotamia. It is also the race of Susa, Elam, and Media. In fact, the whole of Mesopotamian civilization belongs to this race with the exception of later Babylonia and Assyria, which were Arabic and Semitic, and of Persia and the empire of the Kassites, which were Nordic and Aryan.

In classic, medieval, and modern times the Alpines have played an unimportant part in European culture, and in western Europe they have been so thoroughly Nordicized that they exist rather as an element in Nordic race development than as an independent type. There are, however, many indications in current history which point to a great development of civilization in the Slavic branches of this race, and the world must be prepared to face, as one of the results of the present war, a great industrial and cultural expansion in Russia, perhaps based on military power.
 
The 3,800-year-old Europoid mummies of China, the bringers of Buddhism to Asia?
by James Mayfield (Chairman, European Heritage Library)

This article is about the mysterious 4,000-year-old mummies in the deserts of western China with "white Europoid" features and clothing, and the ancient Tocharians, the possibly white European settlers of western China and Afghanistan who were responsible for bringing Buddhism to China and much of the world. Please note that because so little is known for certain about them, there is no universally-accepted history or interpretation. Therefore, this article will present many different possibilities and interpretations about their origins. If you would like another perspective added, please notify us. As this topic is very complicated, it is suggested that you read the paragraphs carefully. Important key terms have been placed in bold.

Ancient Greek and Chinese historians had long referenced a unique cultural and ethnic group on its western frontier with red hair and blue eyes since the 3rd century BCE, a group that settled Afghanistan and forged a vibrant Buddhist empire that spread Buddhism to much of the the world through China and India. But when 3,800-year-old mummies were unearthed in the early 20th century in the Tarim Basin of the western Chinese desert with blatant "white" physiognomy and clothing of apparently European origin, historians, anthropologists, and archeologists were awestruck. The tenuous ethnocultural issue made this a serious issue: Europeans emphasized the role of "Europeans" in creating an ancient frontier civilization that brought a world religion to Asia; Chinese scholars refused to believe that significant foundations of their history were "imported," and the modern residents of the Tarim region (Xinjiang) -- the Muslim Uyghurs -- insist that they were the original natives of the region.

This analytical essay is divided into two parts. Firstly, an analysis of the 3,800-year-old white Europoid mummies in western China (Xinjiang province) and their possible culture and race. Second, an analysis of the history of the Kushan/Tocharian bringers of Buddhism to much of the world. If the original European mummies are related to these Kushan Buddhist missionaries with blue eyes and red hair, then the descendants of these European mummies forever shaped the cultural and religious evolution of Asia.
 
The Europoid mummies of China: what were their ethnic/racial roots

The Europoid Tarim mummies are some of the oldest and best preserved corpses in the world, protected by the extremely dry climate of East Turkestan. Blatantly related to one of the races of European origin, they give us one of the earliest looks at the migratory movement, culture, and civilization of early European peoples.





The reason for the possible connection of these white mummies to the bringers of Buddhism out of ancient Afghanistan is that they both lived in the same region. It is possible that the mummies of the Tarim Basin have absolutely nothing to do with the subsequent history with which they are accredited. This white Europoid culture may have died out long before an unrelated race (the Tocharians) moved into Buddhist Afghanistan. Or, they may be the same people. The possible historical connection is covered in the second section below. The most important information derives from Chinese depictions of Buddhist missionaries with blatantly white features such as blue eyes and red hair from this area and Afghanistan.

The oldest mummy, "Cherchen Man," dates back to 1,800BCE. The clothing and physignomy of the Tarim mummies clearly show that they are white Europoid. The skull structure (high cheekbones, a square jaw, and an elongated thin skull), genetic evidence, and red-skirt clothing of the Tarim mummies all point to a cultural and genetic origin from a European race. The buried mummies, notably tall (considered a European feature) were found with both blond and red hair, with male and female buried equally elaborately. They wore red and blue felt hats, long skirts, and what are described as typically "Scandinavian/Germanic" pointed witch-style hats on many of the women. The Tarim mummies may have been related to the ancestors of what became the Slavic, Uralic, or less likely (due to their far distance) the Germanic peoples. The burial objects with which inhumation occurred are unusual: blue stones over their eyes and bags of incense around their necks as tokens to a good afterlife. Some have drawn a connection between the incense bags and early Iranian/Scythian and Zoroastrian culture that was prolific throughout Central Asia as described by Strabo and Ptolemy. The Iranic race also has a physiognomy of high cheekbones, an elongated skull, and a recessive propensity for light features as best displayed by the Tajiks of the Pamir region. This is one argument for the possibility that these "white mummies" are instead related to ancient Scythian Iranian tribes. Some scientists have also dismissed the red and blond hair of the mummies as a result of natural bleaching and dying in the sun, sandstorms, or as a result of the soil content of the graves. This very legitimate assertion, however, does not explain the distinct European skull features of the mummies.

More than 30 mummies have been found in the region dating from 2,800BCE to about 300BCE. Increasingly towards the end of this period, the mummies become less and less frequently Europoid and more and more Mongoloid (with broad, shorter skulls and receded eye sockets). This is evidence to imply that this small settling European nomadic population gradually died out as an unrelated Mongoloid group (perhaps the Uyghurs) settled. The last major mummies, the "Witches of Subeshi" with a distinctly Europoid style of clothing and broomed witch hats, date from the 3rd century BCE. Considering that right after 300BCE, Chinese assaults forced the new dominant ethnic group in the Tarim Basin southward towards Afghanistan, this implies that the migrating population was not related to these original white mummies. There is absolutely no evidence directly linking the original mummies to the future nomads with red hair who settled in Afghanistan (Kushans) and became propagators of Buddhism. It is undeniable that these original mummies, from 1,800BCE until about 300BCE, were genetically related to a European race. It is uncertain, however, whether or not they gradually died out or were the same group that traveled to Afghanistan. A tiny fraction of survivors of this ancient white culture may have also assimilated.
 
Ma sunce vam kalaisano jel znate koliko mi je trebalo da pronadjem ovo sto je iznad, a sve ovo objasnjava onaj post sto sam naveo pre par dana o plavookim belim ljudima u okolini Kine i mumiji crvenokosoj sa plavim ocima sto sam naveo tj skinuo sa neta da ne bude da ja nesto k.enjam i izmisljam evo pa citajte.Koliko sam samo procitao postova i koje-kakvih s.ranja da bi nasao ovo sto sam gledao preko tv-a na discovery i history channal-u osedeo sam pored kompa a oci u kockicu dosle.:) ajd uzdravlje:)
 
Are the white European mummies connected to the glorious Buddhist civilization? Historical analysis:

This complicated historical background is the heart of determining whether the white European mummies were connected with the ancient civilizations and bringers of Buddhism with blue eyes and red hair.

A number of cultural or ethnic groups lived in the same area as the ancient white mummies and moved southward to Afghanistan. Some had red hair and blue eyes as shown on Chinese artwork. The Tocharians are identified as this European-featured bringer of Buddhism. But are they related to the blatantly genetically European mummies, or did the Chinese merely see another racial group like the Iranians with recessive features? Tracing these peoples' history allows us to better determine whether or not it was this ancient white European culture of mummies that forever shaped the evolution of Asia or not.

The Yuezhi and Tocharian tribes have been traced back to the Tarim Basin of western China back to at least the 4th century BCE. Ancient Chinese sources depict a very foreign racial and cultural group in their western frontier back to the 3rd century called the Yuezhi, with which the Chinese sought an alliance against the Hsiung-Nu tribe (possibly the Huns) in 139BCE [1]. One Chinese source depicts the Wu-sun tribe in the same area as having blue eyes and red hair [2], distinctly European features. At the same timeframe, Greek historians like Strabo and Ptolemy depicted the Tocharian tribes (Gr. "Tokhari") in the same area as beng part of the Shaka/Scythian cultural and ethnic orbit [3]. The Iranian race, as manifested best among the Tajiks, has a propensity for recessive green eyes and lighter hair, whilst the Greeks very rarely do. Both the Greeks and Chinese sources describe a movement of the Tocharians and the Yuezhi at the same time to the south. The Yuezhi were brutally expelled en masse to the south during this time (the 2nd century BCE) by the victorious Chinese armies. This is exactly the same time that the genetically Europoid mummies in the Tarim Basin virtually disappear behind Mongoloid mummies. This may therefore imply that the nomads moving south to Afghanistan were overwhelmingly Mongloid, not at all of ethnic stock related to European or the mummies.

These two possibly "white European" tribes moved south and entered Afghanistan and India in a great movement of peoples, where they were called the Kushana [4]. After conquering Afghanistan, they established what became the massive Buddhist Kushan Empire in the 2nd century that quickly spread from eastern Iran to northern India and to the gates of China. Great sovereigns of Kushan/Yuezhi/Tocharian and possibly white European (?) origin like Kanishka the Great became some of the most magnificent Buddhist kings in history. Kanishka built massive Buddhist temples, stupas, and monasteries, subsidizing the Buddhist sangha community of monks and fostered the spread of Buddhism to the world through missionary activity. These Buddhist Kushans, either white Europoids related to the mummies or not, dominated the trade routes to China along which they spread their religion to the world forever. One piece of evidence connecting the Kushan culture to the Europoid mummies of western China is that Kushan Buddhist kings styled themselves as the Son of Heaven, a title obviously inherited from China [5]. It is these Kushans who initiated the first depictions of Buddha as a humanoid figure, giving rise to our modern image of Buddha altogether. At this time, a Chinese Buddhist source considers the Kushan Empire to be the focal point of the transmission of Buddhism [6].
 
Whoever these Kushans were -- white Europeans or otherwise -- they are responsible for spreading Buddhism through China and ultimately to Korea, Japan, and the world, supplying proof of a magnificent ancient civilization that each race in the region wants to claim as its own achievement.

The other major physical evidence we have to determine whether these Buddhist missionaries were related to the mummies is from Chinese frescoes, imagery, and literature depicting their strange western neighbors bringing them a new religion. Chinese sources depict what they call the Yuezhi and what Greeks called Tocharians as quite foreign in their dress, culture, and appearance. Chinese art shows pale-skinned, red-headed, blue-eyed monks with beards obviously from a race and culture very different from the Han Chinese. Sporting partially-shaved heads, dangling earlobes, and the lotus-shaped hand posture, these white Europoids are obviously Buddhist monks bringing the new faith to the Chinese along commercial and migratory routes that they had followed when they left the Tarim Basin for Afghanistan. The entire facial appearance of the white Buddhist missionaries is different: the original artists did not simply depict humanoids in general or Chinese men with red hair. They were portraying a very foreign racial group.

The problem with artwork is obvious: the artist can depict any image he chooses. Chinese art may have depicted these foreign Tocharians in the way Chinese viewed their rivals. They may have simply drawn a very different-looking people to symbolically emphasize that they received Buddhism from abroad. Also significant is that the artists may have been exaggerating. They may have seen very infrequent recessive genes of light features among only a few Tocharians that were so unusual that they portrayed the entire visiting missionary culture as being European-looking. As a result, the Chinese may have also simply come into contact with a high ratio of non-European Iranians or Pamirians with recessive light features. Even Turks and Huns in the region (who later destroyed the Kushan Empire) have a propensity for "European" light features. In conclusion, Chinese artwork depicting red-haired and blue-eyed missionaries does not instantly imply that the Kushan Empire's master civilization and the bringers of Buddhist culture to the world are of genetically or culturally European origin. The desire of many European nationalists to take credit for "civilizing Asia" is perhaps completely wrong.

It is also possible to consider that the white-featured monks may not have been connected to the ancient mummies, but to white Greeks who settled in Afghanistan before and after Alexander the Great's conquests of the 4th century BCE. Bactria, and less so its successor of the Kushan Buddhist Empire, manifested an artistic and political expression of Greek culture. The argument that these bringers of Buddhism to China were Greeks, however, is shattered by the fact that Greeks almost never have light features, red or blond hair, or even blue eyes.
 
Clearly, the race of the people shown on these Chinese artworks is not Chinese but white What white exactly means is in question

The Tocharian alphabet is loosely based upon the Brahmi script, the early "Aryan"/Iranian basis of most of the subcontinent's languages.

A rough map of the Tarim Basin area in comparison with Afghanistan (Kushan state). The Yuezhi/Tocharians/Kushanas traveled south from the Tarim Basin to Afghanistan.
 
Poslednja izmena:
I jos bih nesto da napomenem.Ja licno ne verujem da je covek dosao iz danasnje Afrike to mi je luda ideja onda bi smo svi bili CRNI (GARAGANI) :):) to mi je potpuno nejasno LAZ ili OBMANA:kazu evolucija ok sve razumem ali zasto je sada ta evolucija stala,koliko crnaca zivi u Holandiji,Britaniji itd. jos od vreme robovlasnickog drustva tj robova recimo da samo racunamo ili sagledamo godine oko prvih hriscanskih ratova Izrael otprilike godina 1300-ta kada su poceli dovoditi arape i danas dan se njihovi potomci nisu nista promenuli cak sta vise jos su crnji :) tamnoputiji a proslo je recimo nekih 700 godina. Ja znam da je to nista na polju evolucije kojoj treba par stotina hiljada godina ili cak milion.Kao sto rekoh ja ne verujem u te ljudske migracije. NE samo neka mi neko onako laicki objasni (ne naucno i teoretski) nego praksom.Posto i sami znamo da vecina teorija nisu kao u praksi cak sta vise totalno je drugacije u praksi(Bora Djordjevic):) sala.Ne ozbiljno dali neko od vas tu postovani ako smem da dam sebi za pravo da vas nazovem PRIJATELJI-A da na naj jednostavniji nacin objasni kako su nastale rase i da navede samo glavne boje tih rasa a da ne ide u detalje kao npr.(Crni crnac iz nigerije) i (crnac iz recimo Somalije ili Cada) crni crnac i malo svetliji Ne crnac je crn belac je beo itd sretno, ajd uzdravlje:)
 
korkanj:
Ma sunce vam kalaisano jel znate koliko mi je trebalo da pronadjem ovo sto je iznad, a sve ovo objasnjava onaj post sto sam naveo pre par dana o plavookim belim ljudima u okolini Kine i mumiji crvenokosoj sa plavim ocima sto sam naveo tj skinuo sa neta da ne bude da ja nesto k.enjam i izmisljam evo pa citajte.Koliko sam samo procitao postova i koje-kakvih s.ranja da bi nasao ovo sto sam gledao preko tv-a na discovery i history channal-u osedeo sam pored kompa a oci u kockicu dosle.:) ajd uzdravlje:)
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У здравље. Али ниси требао да се трудиш толико на овој теми кад имаш тему о кинеским пирамидама.
 
Samo jos nesto da dodam,ali ako vi mislite da nema veze sa genetikom,mozda ima veze odakle dolazimo; od Kine,Indije,Avganistana,itd. nego evo par primera koje sam iscackao po netu,pa sami procenite

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J.b.t....... ala si se ti pravo napalio na srpstvo :D
Moras da imas u vidu jednu stvar.... po svemu sudeci, korenska rec SRB je izuzetno drevna. Bog zna koliko je stara i gde se sve nalazi. Medjutim moras da shvatis da je ta rec bila rasprostranjena kod brojnih naroda od kojih neki sa nama nemaju skoro nikakve dosirne tacke. Mi jedino imamo cast i zadovoljstvo da nosimo to drevno i slavno ime ali to ne znaci da su recimo australijski ili mikronezanski aboridzini Srbi niti da su nasi pradedovi tamo nekada ziveli.
 
Kraški lovac:
Ајде нека неко ово мало боље појасни.

Јер ако су тестирали неког његовог ''рођака'' данас не мора да значи да је и он имао исту хаплогру.
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тестирали су потомке од његовог брата по оцу. Мајка није иста али отац јесте,
 
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