Stauros = krst

[Hrastovnik]

Za one koji grcku rijes stauros smatraju za stub evo pravog znacenja:

σταυρός, a cross (crux) strictly the tranversebeam (patibulum), which was placed at the top of the vertical part, thus forming a capital T. It was this transverse beam that was carried by the criminal: the crucifixion of Jesus.(A POCKET LEXICON TO THE GREEK NEW TESTAMENT by Alexander Souter, M.A., Oxford, The Clarendon Press, 1920)

σταυρός = a cross, krst

 

[besmrtna]

aha to si ti izmislio

 

[besmrtna]

stauros znaci stub

i nikako se nemoze odnositi na krst

http://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mučenički_stub

staurós -. U klasičnom grčkom jeziku ta se reč odnosila na uspravnu gredu ili kolac.

 

[Hrastovnik]

Za one koji grcku rijes stauros smatraju za stub evo pravog znacenja:

σταυρός, a cross (crux) strictly the tranversebeam (patibulum), which was placed at the top of the vertical part, thus forming a capital T. It was this transverse beam that was carried by the criminal: the crucifixion of Jesus.(A POCKET LEXICON TO THE GREEK NEW TESTAMENT by Alexander Souter, M.A., Oxford, The Clarendon Press, 1920)

σταυρός = a cross, krst

Eto ti referenca, knjiga iz 1920. godine (mozda tada nije bilo te jehovske nauke)!

 

[Jacob]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stauros

Thus in the form of Greek spoken at the time of Jesus, the word was used for a "cross", although its original, proper, sense was different

 

[onisifor]

Prosto si ga sasekla argumentima.

 

[besmrtna]

bilo koji krst nije hriscanski simbol nego paganski...

hriscani u 1 veku nisu koristili krst...

Isus je ubijen na mucenickom stubu

izvorna grcka rec je stauros koja znaci stub

a ne krst

evo ovde o mucenickom stubu

i poreklu krsta

http://forum.krstarica.com/showpost.php?p=7497884&postcount=1

http://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mučenički_stub



evo ovde u linkovima su svi dokazi koga ne mrzi da cita

 

[tetragramaton]

stauros znaci stub

i nikako se nemoze odnositi na krst

http://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mučenički_stub

staurós -. U klasičnom grčkom jeziku ta se reč odnosila na uspravnu gredu ili kolac.

Ja sam pročitao ovo????
Reč "ksrt" potiče od latinske reči crux. Ali, grčka reč koja je u mnogim savremenim prevodima prevedena imenicom "krst", glasi staurós. U klasičnom grčkom jeziku ta se reč odnosila na uspravnu gredu ili kolac. Kasnije se počela koristiti i za stub za pogubljenje koji je imao poprečnu gredu.

 

[Jacob]

Izvorno je u starogrckom "stauros" znacilo stub ali u vreme Isusa je ta rec znacila "krst"

 

[Hrastovnik]

bilo koji krst nije hriscanski simbol nego paganski...

hriscani u 1 veku nisu koristili krst...

Isus je ubijen na mucenickom stubu

izvorna grcka rec je stauros koja znaci stub

a ne krst

evo ovde o mucenickom stubu

i poreklu krsta

http://forum.krstarica.com/showpost.php?p=7497884&postcount=1

http://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mučenički_stub

Evo i nehriscani priznaju da rijec stauros znaci krst. Mineral pod imenom staurolite:

http://www.luckygemstones.com/staurolite-jewelry-fairy-crosses.htm

http://www.galleries.com/minerals/SILICATE/STAUROLI/STAUROLI.HTM

http://images.google.ca/images?clie...rce=hp&q=staurolite&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staurolite

 

[besmrtna]

Izvorno je u starogrckom "stauros" znacilo stub ali u vreme Isusa je ta rec znacila "krst"

pa nije bas tako

 

[Jacob]

pa nije bas tako

Pa bas je tako

Znacenja reci se menjaju vremenom.

Stauros znaci krst,izvorno je znacilo stub ali nije tako vise.

 

[Jacob]

The Encyclopædia Britannica describes the normal manner of Roman crucifixion:

Usually, the condemned man, after being whipped, or "scourged", dragged the crossbeam of his cross to the place of punishment, where the upright shaft was already fixed in the ground. Stripped of his clothing either then or earlier at his scourging, he was bound fast with outstretched arms to the crossbeam or nailed firmly to it through the wrists. The crossbeam was then raised high against the upright shaft and made fast to it about 9 to 12 feet (approximately 3 metres) from the ground. Next, the feet were tightly bound or nailed to the upright shaft. A ledge inserted about halfway up the upright shaft gave some support to the body; evidence for a similar ledge for the feet is rare and late. Over the criminal’s head was placed a notice stating his name and his crime.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/144583/crucifixion

 

[Hrastovnik]

The name is derived from the Greek, stauros for cross and lithos for stone in reference to the common twinning:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staurolite

http://www.mindat.org/min-3753.html

 

[besmrtna]

Pa bas je tako

Znacenja reci se menjaju vremenom.

Stauros znaci krst,izvorno je znacilo stub ali nije tako vise.

to su izmislili oni kojima tako odgovara

ako je stauros znacio stub uvek ce znaciti samo stub

 

[Jacob]

to su izmislili oni kojima tako odgovara

ako je stauros znacio stub uvek ce znaciti samo stub

Al ti je argument

 

[besmrtna]

Al ti je argument

bolji od tvoga


pazi znacio je stub pa posle znaci krst dal tu ima ikakve logike

 

[Jacob]

Reci menjaju znacenje u svim jezicima.

Nekada se za plavo govorilo "modro" a modro danas se skoro nikad ne koristi za plavo.

u japanskom jeziku su tokom vremena mnoge reci promenile znacenje,u engleskom takodje,to se zove evolucija jezika.

 

[Eleleth]

stauros znaci stub

i nikako se nemoze odnositi na krst

http://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mučenički_stub

staurós -. U klasičnom grčkom jeziku ta se reč odnosila na uspravnu gredu ili kolac.

Točno.
Tau T

Tau je bila oznaka i u starom zavjetu u Ezekielu oznaka na ćela koji da budu pošteđeni od
Gospoda starozavjetnog od razaranja.
Tako da tu nema dleme da je simbolika jasna T.

 

[Jacob]

Evo ti nekih primera promene znacenja u engleskom:

Girl je nekada znacilo "mlada osoba bilo kojeg pola",a danas znaci samo "devojcica"

Brave koje danas znaci hrabar je u pocetku znacilo kukavica od "bravado"

Reci menjaju znacenje.

http://ezinearticles.com/?-Etymology--How-Words-Change-Over-Time&id=12709

 

[Jacob]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_change


Demagogue - Originally meant "a popular leader". It is from the Greek demagogos (leader of the people), from demos (people) + agogos (leader). Now the word has strong connotations of a politician who panders to emotions and prejudice.


Democrat - At the time of the American Revolution, the term "democrat" had all the negative connotations of the modern usage of the word "demagogue". A century later, the term had shifted in meaning enough that it was viewed favorably as the name of an American national political party.

Guy - Guido (Guy) Fawkes was the alleged leader of a plot to blow up the English Houses of Parliament on 5 November 1605. The burning on 5 November of a grotesque effigy of Fawkes, known as a "guy," led to the use of the word "guy" as a term for any "person of grotesque appearance" and then to a general reference for a man, as in "some guy called for you." In the 20th century, under the influence of American popular culture, "guy" has been gradually replacing "fellow," "bloke," "chap" and other such words throughout the English-speaking world, and, in the plural, can refer to a mixture of genders (e.g., "Come on, you guys!" could be directed to a group of men and women).

 

[Jacob]

BTW u izvornom znacenju "gay" znaci srecan,bezbrizan a svi znamo sta znaci sada,tako da tvoj argument da reci ne menjaju znacenje je u najboljem slucaju besmislen, u najgorem bezobrazan...

 

[Hrastovnik]

Crucifixion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion

 

[Hrastovnik]

BTW u izvornom znacenju "gay" znaci srecan,bezbrizan a svi znamo sta znaci sada,tako da tvoj argument da reci ne menjaju znacenje je u najboljem slucaju besmislen, u najgorem bezobrazan...

Odlican primjer!

 

[Eleleth]

Crucifixion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion

Reci mi je li Isus Nazorej po tebi prokucan i kroz noga čavlima bio?
Što misli o tome????