Slovensko nasleđe u Grčkoj

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Mrkalj:
U kraju Volosa, gdje smo već gore pomenuli slovensko pleme, ima i danas dosta evidentnih slovenskih imena mjesta. Tako u neposrednoj blizini grada imamo naziv brda Gorica i naziv sela Makrinica na Pelionu (danas ljetovalište), a u blizini morske obale na podnožju Peliona s istočne strane selo Zagora.

Na Bistrici je bila i prva balkanska Srbija koju pominje Car Konstantin u obliku Serblia.
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Село Макриница је на (планини) Загора. Бише име Пелиона је Загора (Загорје).
 
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Село Макриница је на (планини) Загора. Бише име Пелиона је Загора (Загорје).
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Right below Makrinitsa there was another village called Kukurava (now considered as part of Makrinitsa).
Zagora was not the name of Pilion. It is a large village on top of the mountain and it still has this name.
Tsagarada, Potoki, Lehonia must also be slavic.
Promiri, Sutrali, Damuhari could be slavic (I don't know what the etymology might be in slavic, but in greek they don't have any meaning).
 
AELarisa:
Right below Makrinitsa there was another village called Kukurava (now considered as part of Makrinitsa).
Zagora was not the name of Pilion. It is a large village on top of the mountain and it still has this name.
Tsagarada, Potoki, Lehonia must also be slavic.
Promiri, Sutrali, Damuhari could be slavic (I don't know what the etymology might be in slavic, but in greek they don't have any meaning).
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Dimitris Petalas thinks that this village is related to Serbs in Arcadia
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Similary, for nearby Monastery Zerbitsa on the Taygetos mountain, he thinks that the name is also related to Serbs
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Do you have any information related to these places?
 
Viden:
Dva velika slovenska plemena naselila su u 7.veku Moreju, odn.Peloponez, a ostala delove terena sadašnje Grčke

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... рад Димитроса Г. Петаласа под називом Речи словенског порекла на Пелопонезу (осим топонима). Уредник издања је др Мирко Томасовић, директор Института, а као рецензент потписује се протојереј-ставрофор др Радомир Поповић, директор Високе школе - Академије Српске Православне Цркве при којој је основан Институт за истраживање и очување културног наслеђа. Преводилац са грчког језика био је С. Јакшић. Аутор књиге Димитрос Г. Петалас је професор средњовековне упоредне књижевности започео је свој на истраживању етимологије речи у грчком језику које воде порекло из словенског језика потакнут својом дедовином у селу Врбици у Грчкој.

http://www.spc.rs/sr/nova_izdanja_instituta_akademije_srpske_pravoslavne_crkve

Šta se još zna o sudbini tih plemena?
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Sta je njihovo nasljedje? Trske za disanje?
 
Kole11:
Dimitris Petalas thinks that this village is related to Serbs in Arcadia
Pogledajte prilog 1577507

Similary, for nearby Monastery Zerbitsa on the Taygetos mountain, he thinks that the name is also related to Serbs
Pogledajte prilog 1577516
Do you have any information related to these places?
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Yes, they must be related to Serbs. The village Servou must have been a small Serbian community initially.

Taygetos had a strong slavic community that kept the slavic language up until recent centuries. The region where Slavs lived was known as Koutsava (maybe from kućava?).
 
AELarisa:
Yes, they must be related to Serbs. The village Servou must have been a small Serbian community initially.

Taygetos had a strong slavic community that kept the slavic language up until recent centuries. The region where Slavs lived was known as Koutsava (maybe from kućava?).
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These are some slavic words and personal names specific for Peloponnese area according to Petalas. Are maybe some of them in the usage in Larissa?

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Kole11:
These are some slavic words and personal names specific for Peloponnese area according to Petalas. Are maybe some of them in the usage in Larissa?

Pogledajte prilog 1578496
Pogledajte prilog 1578499
Pogledajte prilog 1578500
Pogledajte prilog 1578501
Pogledajte prilog 1578502
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Yes many of them are in use here as well.
There are also others like bubniki = large insect, zuzulas= crazy guy, etc.
Pliatsikas (initially written as Pliatzkas) is a common surname where I come from. The most common surname in my village when the Ottomans organised their first census in Thessaly was "Servos". Velika is also a female first name, mostly found here.
You should also look into the surname of the woman athlete that will hold the flag in the upcoming Olympics (Ntrismpioti, probably from drižba?). She is also from Thessaly, but not from the region where I am.

Where can I find this book?
 
AELarisa:
Yes many of them are in use here as well.
There are also others like bubniki = large insect, zuzulas= crazy guy, etc.
Pliatsikas (initially written as Pliatzkas) is a common surname where I come from. The most common surname in my village when the Ottomans organised their first census in Thessaly was "Servos". Velika is also a female first name, mostly found here.
You should also look into the surname of the woman athlete that will hold the flag in the upcoming Olympics (Ntrismpioti, probably from drižba?). She is also from Thessaly, but not from the region where I am.

Where can I find this book?
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This guy, Peloponessian, told the story about slavic culture that still lives in the mountains of Peloponesse, hundred years after disappearance of Slavic people.
He also says that this topic is not welcomed for research in the Greek academic circles.
Book is written in Serbian as he is speaker of, so if you are familiar with, enjoy :)

https://pdfcoffee.com/qdownload/dim...lovenskog-porekla-na-peloponezu-pdf-free.html

Also, isnt it strange that Serbian toponims are present in the Peloponesse since Serbian state has never extended over, even during the Serbian empire?
 
Kole11:
This guy, Peloponessian, told the story about slavic culture that still lives in the mountains of Peloponesse, hundred years after disappearance of Slavic people.
He also says that this topic is not welcomed for research in the Greek academic circles.
Book is written in Serbian as he is speaker of, so if you are familiar with, enjoy :)

https://pdfcoffee.com/qdownload/dim...lovenskog-porekla-na-peloponezu-pdf-free.html

Also, isnt it strange that Serbian toponims are present in the Peloponesse since Serbian state has never extended over, even during the Serbian empire?
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Thanks for the book!
Well, as you probably already know, the state of Greece has done its best to erase all the slavic past of Greece. So, it's not easy to find such information here.

It's not strange. In medieval times it was usual for enperors to move populations from one place to another. In the island of Crete for example you will find Serbian, Bulgarian and Croat toponyms, while the island was never part of any slavic state and the slavic migrations never reached the island. It's the Byzantines and the Venetians that brought them there. That's why it is important to look at historical records, apart from toponyms analysis.

In our case, my village and all the nearby ones that have serbian names, were recorded for the very first time during 14th century, so I guess there is no doubt that they are related to the Serbian empire.
 
AELarisa:
In our case, my village and all the nearby ones that have serbian names, were recorded for the very first time during 14th century, so I guess there is no doubt that they are related to the Serbian empire.
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Velestino is not far from your place, right?
First time mentioned in the 12th century, but there is famous archeological finding dated back to 7th century, presenting hoards of slavic origin.
These figures are work of Christian community people, sugesting that 7th century Slavs of Velestino were baptizied.
Historical records from the same period know for slavic people in the Byzantine circles, like archon Tihomir for example.

Pls check prof Curtas work on the subject, this is very valuable effort, especially for you as it deals with history of your birth place :)

https://dokumen.pub/qdownload/the-v...ages-2019nbsped-3030048454-9783030048457.html
 
Srbi i Sloveni nemaju ništa zajedničko sa Grcima !
To su 2 različita sveta, dokaz jezik, ni jednu jedinu reč ne razumeju Srbi Grke, ali zato Srbi razumeju Ruse.
Takođe Grci su ekumenisti katolici koji slave katolički Božić i Vaskrs i odmetnuli su se od pravoslavlja jer su priznali Lažnu Ukrajinsku crkvu.
Srbi nemaju ništa sa Grcima i treba da ih se klone, za Srbe kao Slovene je sve zajedničko sa pravoslavnom Rusijom.
 
Posto se moderator Lekica zainteresovao, da mu prezentujemo jos jedno mesto pod imenom Arahova, na Peloponezu, koje je ime dobilo po plantazi oraha. Ovo mesto nazalost nije uspelo da zadrzi svoje drevno ime pa se sada zove Karijes

Karyes (Greek: Καρυές, before 1930: Αράχωβα - Arachova) is a village of the Peloponnese peninsula, which is located in the southern part of Greece.[2] The Peloponnese is made up of a number of states and Karyes belongs to the state of Laconia in which Sparta is the capital.[2] Karyes gets its official name from the word ‘walnut’ due to the village having many WALNUT trees
 
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