Blatno more (Baltic)
Etymology
While
Tacitus called it
Mare Suebicum[SUP]
[7][/SUP] after the
Germanic people called the
Suebi, the first to name it the
Baltic Sea (
Mare Balticum) was the eleventh-century German chronicler
Adam of Bremen. The origin of the latter name is speculative. It might be connected to the Germanic word
belt, a name used for two of the Danish straits,
the Belts, while others claim it to be derived from
Latin balteus (belt).[SUP]
[8][/SUP]
Adam of Bremen himself compared the sea with a belt, stating that it is so named because it stretches through the land as a belt (
Balticus, eo quod in modum baltei longo tractu per Scithicas regiones tendatur usque in Greciam). He might also have been influenced by the name of a legendary island mentioned in the
Natural History of
Pliny the Elder. Pliny mentions an island named
Baltia (or
Balcia) with reference to accounts of
Pytheas and
Xenophon. It is possible that Pliny refers to an island named
Basilia ("kingdom" or "royal") in
On the Ocean by Pytheas.
Baltia also might be derived from "belt" and mean "near belt of sea (strait)." Meanwhile, others have concluded that the name of the island originates from the
Indo-European root
*bhel meaning
white, fair. This root and its basic meaning were retained in both Lithuanian (as
baltas) and Latvian (as
balts). On this basis, a related hypothesis holds that the name originated from this Indo-European root via a
Baltic language such as Lithuanian.[SUP]
[9][/SUP] Another explanation is that, while derived from the aforementioned root, the name of the sea is related to names for various forms of water and related substances in several European languages, that might have been originally associated with colors found in swamps. Yet another explanation is that the name originally meant "enclosed sea, bay" as opposed to open sea.[SUP]
[10][/SUP] Some Swedish historians believe the name derives from the god Balder of Nordic mythology.
In the
Middle Ages the sea was known by variety of names. The name
Baltic Sea became dominant only after 1600. Usage of
Baltic and similar terms to denote the region east of the sea started only in 19th century.
1. I danas Lužički Srbi močaju dupe u Baltiku, pa me interusuje da li je daleko od pameti i zašto je daleko od pameti smatrati Tacitove Suebe - Srbima?
2. Blatno dno Baltika:
http://www.saveourbalticsea.com/index.php/the-baltic-sea-bed
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Koliko ja vidim, ti Suebi nisu ništa manje Sloveni od Prusa i Sasa. Kao ukazatelj mi služi:
1. današnje obilje slovenkih toponima upravo na istorijskom području Sueba
2. sličnost naziva sa nazivom Srbi koji i danas tamo žive
3. slovenski naziv reke od koje nastaje Dunav - Breg, u oblasti u kojoj danas žive Suebi (danas Švabe)
Suebi
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The
Suevi, then
Suebi and in the 6th century also
Suavi (
Jordanes,
Procopius) were a large group of people who lived in
Germania and were first mentioned by
Julius Caesar in connection with
Ariovistus' campaign in
Gaul, c. 58 BC.[SUP]
[1][/SUP] While Caesar treated them as one Germanic tribe, though the largest and most warlike, later authors such as Tacitus, Pliny and Strabo specified that the Suevi "do not, like the
Chatti or
Tencteri, constitute a single nation. They actually occupy more than half of Germany, and are divided into a number of distinct tribes under distinct names, though all generally are called Suebi".[SUP]
[2][/SUP] "At one time, classical ethnography had applied the name "Suevi" to so many Germanic tribes that it appeared as though in the first centuries A.D. this native name would replace the foreign name "Germans"."[SUP]
[3][/SUP]
Classical authors noted that the Suevic tribes, compared to other Germanic tribes, were very mobile, and not reliant upon agriculture.[SUP]
[4][/SUP] Various Suevic groups moved from the direction of the Baltic sea and river Elbe, becoming a periodic threat to the Roman Empire on their
Rhine and
Danube frontiers. Toward the end of the empire, the
Alamanni, also referred to as Suebi, first settled in the
Agri Decumates and then
crossed the Rhine and occupied
Alsace. A pocket remained in the region now still called
Swabia, an area in southwest Germany whose modern name derives from the Suebi. Others moved as far as
Gallaecia (modern
Galicia, in
Spain, and
Northern Portugal) and established a
Suebic Kingdom of Gallaecia there which lasted for 170 years until its integration into the
Visigothic Kingdom.
Some of the tribes in
Germania during the
Roman empire. Suebian and Hermionic tribes are in magenta.
The Suebi may not have been identical with the
Suevi living in the
Scheldt area in the 6th and 7th centuries, who are supposed to have given their name to the Dutch province of
Zeeland.[SUP]
[5][/SUP]
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