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Koji "genijalac" je izmislio London za slanje lekarski? Kako je sve lepo i glatko islo bez Londona? Kao da se trude da uspore proces!
Ali sta se mora, nije tesko! Izdrzacemo mi i ovo, zilavi smo!
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Koji "genijalac" je izmislio London za slanje lekarski? Kako je sve lepo i glatko islo bez Londona? Kao da se trude da uspore proces!
Ali sta se mora, nije tesko! Izdrzacemo mi i ovo, zilavi smo!
Puno pozdrava!
Opet cu ja da pitam, da li je moguce otici tamo sa radnom vizom i ostati? Koliko je uopste tesko dobiti radnu vizu? Prijateljica mi zivi u Calgary-u i kaze da ce pokusati da mi nadju posao tamo i srede radnu vizu 12 mjeseci. Navodno se poslije 12 mjeseci rada, mogu izganjati papiri.
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malo sam se više udubila u proučavanje pa sam našla podatak da se i u srbiji od prošle godine medicina, stomatologija... priznaju pod master.
zanima me koji ste im dokaz poslali da imaš master? diplomu, transkripte...? da li se negdje spominjao undergraduated ili graduated? da li je uz diplomu i transkripte bila priložena dodatna potvrda?
ne želim opet dobiti NER jer tamo sjedi neki nesposobnjaković, već ako to ne priznaju da poguram tamo gdje mogu.
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Trebalo bi da je tako. Imam kolegu koji je zavrsio studije ovde sa studentskom vizom, moja firma mu je napravila radnu dozvolu i posle 12 meseci je podneo za PR. Trenutno ceka na odgovor proslo je oko 6 meseci, inace je iz Vijetnama.
Ako mozes to izgurati, samo napred i srecno!
ljudi, ja sam primetila da kada tenzija na forumu krene da udara u plafon - kao sada - negde prosvira i oni krenu da salju to sto svi tako zeljno cekamo - secate se, tako je bilo za lekarski, bice sada tako i za pasose. samo, pazite, i oni ljudi idu na godisnje odmore pa gledajte malo da se opustite i ustedite neki zivac. u to ime, odoh ja sa decom u banju
teska srca cu morati da se na neko vreme odreknem svakodnevnog proveravanja cega novog ima na forumu (za mail mi nije zao, dapace, neki ljudi kao da ne kapiraju DA SAM JA NA ODMORU!!!) ali se zato nadam da kada sledeci put budem gvirnula, bice dobrih vesti
'ajde, necemo vajda sada kod finisa da izgubimo i ono nesto zivaca sto nam je ostalo nakon svih meseci provedenih u razmisljanju da li da odem, kako da odem, hoce li me primiti, hoce li, hoce li, hoce li... kada ce mi stici ovo, ono i deseto, kada ce mi stici poziv za lekarski, lekarski, lekarski... ja ne mogu vise. odoh da penzionisem
teska srca cu morati da se na neko vreme odreknem svakodnevnog proveravanja cega novog ima na forumu (za mail mi nije zao, dapace, neki ljudi kao da ne kapiraju DA SAM JA NA ODMORU!!!) ali se zato nadam da kada sledeci put budem gvirnula, bice dobrih vesti'ajde, necemo vajda sada kod finisa da izgubimo i ono nesto zivaca sto nam je ostalo nakon svih meseci provedenih u razmisljanju da li da odem, kako da odem, hoce li me primiti, hoce li, hoce li, hoce li... kada ce mi stici ovo, ono i deseto, kada ce mi stici poziv za lekarski, lekarski, lekarski... ja ne mogu vise. odoh da penzionisem
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medusa uživaj na godišnjem.
kada se vratiš držim palčeve za dobre vijesti.
kada se vratiš držim palčeve za dobre vijesti.
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Tačno tako, ali samo u Srbiji; čak to piše i u zakonu jer je merilo 300 esp bodova. Mi smo poslali transkript u kojem su navedeni bodovi za svaki ispit i konačan zbir, kao i posebno uverenje da je diploma ekvivalentna masteru, pa i još jedno uverenje o akademskim integrisanim studijama (osnovne plus akademske što mu dođe kao pokazatelj da je to moguće samo za master studije) i dodatak diplomi. Nažalost, na faksu nisu hteli da izdaju novu diplomu na kojoj bi pisalo MASTER, i to smo objasnili u posebnom pismu navodeći Bolonju, Zakon... ali očigledno nije uplalilo.
Neverovatno, sada sam pogledao spisak koji sam napravio za prikupljanje dokumenata i video da sam napisao da pribavim transkripte za oboje!!! Kako samouverenost zna da zaslepi...
Ako imaš napisano na diplomi master, ne bi trebalo da se brineš.
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žao mi je da te propustili poslati te famozne transkripte.
neću moći dobiti diplomu na kojoj će pisati master kao što niti ti nisi uspio dobiti. u hrvatskom zakonu o obrazovanju piše pod nazivlje o akademskim titulama da mi imamo u nazivu dr medicine, to je naziv!!! ali jednakoznačno je masteru. ma oni su idioti ako vam nisu priznali. ne znam što da kažem!!! sve ste predali a nisu vam priznali. a da probaš napisati mail, možda im je promaklo kao što im promaknu mnoge stvari. u uputam piše da bi trebali priznavati kako priznaju lokalne države. ne kužim šta im nije jasno. naravno da je studij integriran jer ne možeš završiti 2 godine pa biti ne znam ni sama što pa onda još 3 pa biti zubar ili dr ili šta već. joooooj...
ma ne znam šta reči!!!!
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Mislim da im je sasvim jasno ako su več napisali ovo: You were assigned 20 points for your Doctor of Dentistry Degree educational credential which is considered as a first level professional degree and is awarded points at the Bachelor’s level.. I to pored silnih potvrda i uverenja da je više od bečelora!
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još jedno pitanjce. da li ti se spominje undergraduated ili graduated na transkriptima, diplomi ili gdje već?
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ne mora biti da je jasno. možda je automatski napisao bez da je provjeravao priloženu dokumentaciju. ja sam im poslal mail(ne znma da li će proći.. zbog drugih razloga) u kojem navodim zakone o imenovanju titula i hrv.zakonu i da se gleda kako lokalna država to boduje. mislim da nemaš šta izgubiti ako im napišeš mail da ti objasne zašto ti nisu dali 25 bodova.
i kod viktoruje su najprije napravili propust i nisu joj dali 5 bodova za rodbinu. ne znam kako je moguće da im promakne ali moguće je.
jerjednostavno ne kužim kako mogu dati 20 bodova kada u pravilniku piše drugačije!!!
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Samo diplomirani (graduated). Možda im je to bilo merilo? Tebi šta piše?
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ovo je iz našeg zakona:
Integrated undergraduate and graduate university studies. The first and second cycles normally take five or six years, during which students are required to earn 300 or 360 ECTS credits respectively. Upon completion, students are awarded a diploma and the academic title of Master (magistar struke) with an indication of the field of study. Upon completion of integrated first and second cycle programmes in medicine, dentistry and veterinary medicine students receive the academic title of Doctor (doktor struke) with an indication of the field of study (e.g. Doctor of Medicine). Students with this degree can continue their studies in university postgraduate programmes or enter the labour market
ovo je iz njihovog pravilnika:
Note: Medical doctor degrees are generally first-level university credentials, in the same way that a Bachelor of Law or a Bachelor of Science in Pharmacology is a first level, albeit ''professional'' degree and should be awarded 20 points. If it is a second-level degree and if, for example, it belongs to a Faculty of Graduate Studies, 25 points may be awarded. If a bachelor's credential is a prerequisite to the credential, but the credential itself is still considered a first-level degree, then 22 points would be appropriate. It is important to refer to how the local authority responsible for educational institutions recognizes the credential: i.e., as a first-level or second-level or higher university credential.
ako ti piše graduated onda ti je to to!
ja sam napisala da imam bacheler i predala strae transkripte, nisam predala nove, tamo mi piše undergraduated i zato mislim da mi niti neće uvažiti vać ću morati opet slati(ako i hoću s obzirom na tebe) ali ovo sam poslal u mail-u. kda je došlo do promjene i prelaska na bolonju ukinuli su se magisterjski studiji i mi smo automatski postali magistri. to sam u ovom dijelu i objasnila ali nisam potkrijepila jer moram izvaditi nove treanskripte na faksu potvrde i tak to
The structure of TE has changed according to the new Act on Scientific Activity and Higher Education. Before the new act, TE was organized into professional and scientific studies. Professional studies usually lasted for two years and were considered as a VI educational level (ISCED97 5B). Such studies provided students with practical skills and professional training. Scientific studies were organized as long-cycle studies. These programs lasted at least four years (up to 6 years for medical studies), were considered at the VII educational level and provided students with broad knowledge on the disciplines and opportunities for further education
at the postgraduate level (ISCED97 5A). Postgraduate education was organized into two cycles: the Master of Science cycle, lasting at least two years (ISCED97 5A), and doctoral training - based on research - lasting an average of three to six years (ISCED97 6).
Through graduate studies, which last for one to two years, 60 to 120 ECTS credits can be earned. The total number of credits earned at undergraduate and graduate studies should be at least 300 ECTS credits. By completing graduate studies, a Master's degree (MA) is awarded. Exceptions occur in the case of university medical programs that award medical degrees (MD).
ISCED 5A - scientific (university) studies that have a minimum theoretical duration of three years, typically of four or more years. This level includes all the research programs which are not part of a doctorate, such as any type of Master's degree.
ISCED 5B - professional studies, more practically oriented and occupationally specific, do not provide direct access to advanced research programs and have minimum of two years full-time equivalent duration, but generally of two or three years.
ISCED 6 - the second stage of tertiary education (leading to an advanced research qualification)- doctoral studies
p.s. pogledaj i u uputama za aplikaciju je objašnjenjo da je undergraduated bachelor a graduated master. morali su ti to priznati!!!
Integrated undergraduate and graduate university studies. The first and second cycles normally take five or six years, during which students are required to earn 300 or 360 ECTS credits respectively. Upon completion, students are awarded a diploma and the academic title of Master (magistar struke) with an indication of the field of study. Upon completion of integrated first and second cycle programmes in medicine, dentistry and veterinary medicine students receive the academic title of Doctor (doktor struke) with an indication of the field of study (e.g. Doctor of Medicine). Students with this degree can continue their studies in university postgraduate programmes or enter the labour market
ovo je iz njihovog pravilnika:
Note: Medical doctor degrees are generally first-level university credentials, in the same way that a Bachelor of Law or a Bachelor of Science in Pharmacology is a first level, albeit ''professional'' degree and should be awarded 20 points. If it is a second-level degree and if, for example, it belongs to a Faculty of Graduate Studies, 25 points may be awarded. If a bachelor's credential is a prerequisite to the credential, but the credential itself is still considered a first-level degree, then 22 points would be appropriate. It is important to refer to how the local authority responsible for educational institutions recognizes the credential: i.e., as a first-level or second-level or higher university credential.
ako ti piše graduated onda ti je to to!
ja sam napisala da imam bacheler i predala strae transkripte, nisam predala nove, tamo mi piše undergraduated i zato mislim da mi niti neće uvažiti vać ću morati opet slati(ako i hoću s obzirom na tebe) ali ovo sam poslal u mail-u. kda je došlo do promjene i prelaska na bolonju ukinuli su se magisterjski studiji i mi smo automatski postali magistri. to sam u ovom dijelu i objasnila ali nisam potkrijepila jer moram izvaditi nove treanskripte na faksu potvrde i tak to
The structure of TE has changed according to the new Act on Scientific Activity and Higher Education. Before the new act, TE was organized into professional and scientific studies. Professional studies usually lasted for two years and were considered as a VI educational level (ISCED97 5B). Such studies provided students with practical skills and professional training. Scientific studies were organized as long-cycle studies. These programs lasted at least four years (up to 6 years for medical studies), were considered at the VII educational level and provided students with broad knowledge on the disciplines and opportunities for further education
at the postgraduate level (ISCED97 5A). Postgraduate education was organized into two cycles: the Master of Science cycle, lasting at least two years (ISCED97 5A), and doctoral training - based on research - lasting an average of three to six years (ISCED97 6).
Through graduate studies, which last for one to two years, 60 to 120 ECTS credits can be earned. The total number of credits earned at undergraduate and graduate studies should be at least 300 ECTS credits. By completing graduate studies, a Master's degree (MA) is awarded. Exceptions occur in the case of university medical programs that award medical degrees (MD).
ISCED 5A - scientific (university) studies that have a minimum theoretical duration of three years, typically of four or more years. This level includes all the research programs which are not part of a doctorate, such as any type of Master's degree.
ISCED 5B - professional studies, more practically oriented and occupationally specific, do not provide direct access to advanced research programs and have minimum of two years full-time equivalent duration, but generally of two or three years.
ISCED 6 - the second stage of tertiary education (leading to an advanced research qualification)- doctoral studies
p.s. pogledaj i u uputama za aplikaciju je objašnjenjo da je undergraduated bachelor a graduated master. morali su ti to priznati!!!
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vidim da je od danas novi EG7
Bachelor’s degree
Academic degree awarded by a college or university to those who completed an undergraduate curriculum; also called a baccalaureate. Examples include a Bachelor of Arts, Science or Education.
Post Graduate – No Degree
Post Graduate studies at a graduate school of a college or university but no degree earned (Master or PhD).
Master’s degree
Academic degree awarded by a graduate school of a college or university. You must have completed a Bachelor‟s degree before a Master‟s degree can be earned
Bachelor’s degree
Academic degree awarded by a college or university to those who completed an undergraduate curriculum; also called a baccalaureate. Examples include a Bachelor of Arts, Science or Education.
Post Graduate – No Degree
Post Graduate studies at a graduate school of a college or university but no degree earned (Master or PhD).
Master’s degree
Academic degree awarded by a graduate school of a college or university. You must have completed a Bachelor‟s degree before a Master‟s degree can be earned
Debejki
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Na potvrdi piše da su to studije "first and second level". E sad ako to nisu pročitali...
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ako piše da su studije integrirane i first+second onda je to to.
Integrated undergraduate and graduate university studies. The first and second cycles normally take five or six years, during which students are required to earn 300 or 360 ECTS credits respectively. Upon completion, students are awarded a diploma and the academic title of Master (magistar struke) with an indication of the field of study. Upon completion of integrated first and second cycle programmes in medicine, dentistry and veterinary medicine students receive the academic title of Doctor (doktor struke) with an indication of the field of study (e.g. Doctor of Medicine). Students with this degree can continue their studies in university postgraduate programmes or enter the labour market.
ovo je objašnjenej sa wikipedije(znam da nije uvijek najtočnija!!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduate_school
A graduate school is a school that awards advanced academic degrees (i.e. master's degree, MBA, Ph.D.) with the general requirement that students must have earned a previous undergraduate (bachelor's) degree.[1][2] Many universities award graduate degrees; a graduate school is not necessarily a separate institution. While the term "graduate school" is common in North America, "postgraduate education is commonly used in English-speaking countries other that the United States (Australia, Canada (which uses both terms), New Zealand and the UK) to refer to the spectrum of education beyond a bachelor's degree. Those attending graduate schools are called "graduate students," or in British English, "postgraduate students," and, colloquially, "postgraduates." Degrees awarded to graduate students include master's degrees, doctoral degrees, and other postgraduate qualifications such as graduate certificates and professional degrees.
Integrated undergraduate and graduate university studies. The first and second cycles normally take five or six years, during which students are required to earn 300 or 360 ECTS credits respectively. Upon completion, students are awarded a diploma and the academic title of Master (magistar struke) with an indication of the field of study. Upon completion of integrated first and second cycle programmes in medicine, dentistry and veterinary medicine students receive the academic title of Doctor (doktor struke) with an indication of the field of study (e.g. Doctor of Medicine). Students with this degree can continue their studies in university postgraduate programmes or enter the labour market.
ovo je objašnjenej sa wikipedije(znam da nije uvijek najtočnija!!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduate_school
A graduate school is a school that awards advanced academic degrees (i.e. master's degree, MBA, Ph.D.) with the general requirement that students must have earned a previous undergraduate (bachelor's) degree.[1][2] Many universities award graduate degrees; a graduate school is not necessarily a separate institution. While the term "graduate school" is common in North America, "postgraduate education is commonly used in English-speaking countries other that the United States (Australia, Canada (which uses both terms), New Zealand and the UK) to refer to the spectrum of education beyond a bachelor's degree. Those attending graduate schools are called "graduate students," or in British English, "postgraduate students," and, colloquially, "postgraduates." Degrees awarded to graduate students include master's degrees, doctoral degrees, and other postgraduate qualifications such as graduate certificates and professional degrees.
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@djdalibor...
moze se srediti radna viza ako nadjes posao koji na listi NOC0 A B
izdaje se na 12 meseci, pa se posle produzava na jos 12 meseci
poslodavac treba da posalje Job Offer I LMO
ne moze se posle prve godine aplicirati za PR, nego posle 2 pune godine....i punog fonda radnih casova (cuvaj slipove od plate)
posle 6 meseci zasposlenja moze se aplicirati preko provincijskog imigracionog programa (za permanent) ali se moraju polagati istiti za sertifikaciju odredjenog zanimanja.
pa kad njihovo udruzenje ( za to zanimanje) odobri, moze se podneti zahtev, ali to ne garantuje da ce i biti odobren.
moze se srediti radna viza ako nadjes posao koji na listi NOC0 A B
izdaje se na 12 meseci, pa se posle produzava na jos 12 meseci
poslodavac treba da posalje Job Offer I LMO
ne moze se posle prve godine aplicirati za PR, nego posle 2 pune godine....i punog fonda radnih casova (cuvaj slipove od plate)
posle 6 meseci zasposlenja moze se aplicirati preko provincijskog imigracionog programa (za permanent) ali se moraju polagati istiti za sertifikaciju odredjenog zanimanja.
pa kad njihovo udruzenje ( za to zanimanje) odobri, moze se podneti zahtev, ali to ne garantuje da ce i biti odobren.
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evo još malo objašnjenja:
http://www.studyincroatia.hr/studyi...n-higher-education-system/degrees-and-studies
Students with this degree can continue their studies in university postgraduate programmes or enter the labour market. )iz ranijeg testa)
sa ove stranice u postgraduated studiesspadaju specialist and doctoral studies. to je još jedna potvrda da imamo master jer nakon ovoga nemamo kako dostići master kada ga već imamo.
http://www.studyincroatia.hr/studyi...n-higher-education-system/degrees-and-studies
Students with this degree can continue their studies in university postgraduate programmes or enter the labour market. )iz ranijeg testa)
sa ove stranice u postgraduated studiesspadaju specialist and doctoral studies. to je još jedna potvrda da imamo master jer nakon ovoga nemamo kako dostići master kada ga već imamo.
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Draga moja, sve stoji što pišeš, misliš... ali džabe svi dokazi kada oni tumače to po svojim merilima. Voleo bih da znam kako su druge bodovali, pa ću videti šta kažu na koenovom forumu o tome. Ja sam se mesecima bavio tom problematikom, ali to su kanadska pravila i koliko god bih voleo da su se zeznuli, nažalost moram da priznam realnost. Ionako, naše akedemsko obrazovanje ne priznaju, pa maltene sve mora ispočetka da se uči i polaže. Imaju drugačiji sistem obrazovanja i stepena vrednovanja i verovatno na naše diplome gledaju s podozrenjem. Ali, da ne generalizujem. Prosto mi je neverovatno da neko, kakav god da je službenik, predvidi bitne stvari za nekoga ko želi da se iseli i ponudi svoje znanje u deficitarnim zanimanjima ( da ne spominjem ostale itekako važne stvari). Možda grešim, mož
da su ipak oni samo mašine koje rade po obrascu, pa ako se ne uklapaš - otpadaš. Surovo, ali jednostavno tako funkcioniše.
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a ne znam šta da ti kažem. samo ispada da je tako teško slijediti pravila, kao da smo idioti 
. ne kužim kako može jedno pisati a da drugo rade?! lakše mi je vjerovati da su napravili propust. i uostalom nebitno je šta će se dešavati sa nama kasnije što se tiče obrazovanja, sada je bitno da primjene pravilo: It is important to refer to how the local authority responsible for educational institutions recognizes the credential: i.e., as a first-level or second-level or higher university credential..
. ne kužim kako može jedno pisati a da drugo rade?! lakše mi je vjerovati da su napravili propust. i uostalom nebitno je šta će se dešavati sa nama kasnije što se tiče obrazovanja, sada je bitno da primjene pravilo: It is important to refer to how the local authority responsible for educational institutions recognizes the credential: i.e., as a first-level or second-level or higher university credential..
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Kod njih nema previse nagadjanja oko diploma tako da vazi sledece:
Ako na diplomi pise Diplomirani Inzenjer (ili bilo sta drugo a ne master ili magistar) = bachelor level bez obzira na duzinu trajanja studija ali min 14g.
Ako na diplomi pise Master ili Magistar = master level (min 17g. obrazovanja)
Njihova pravila mozda nisu dobra pravila, ali su njihova.
I moja supruga i ja smo 17godina obrazovanja, i vec smo radili u inostranstvu, niko nam nije diplomu prevodio kao master, uvek kao bachelor. Mozda nije kako treba ali tako je.
Ako na diplomi pise Diplomirani Inzenjer (ili bilo sta drugo a ne master ili magistar) = bachelor level bez obzira na duzinu trajanja studija ali min 14g.
Ako na diplomi pise Master ili Magistar = master level (min 17g. obrazovanja)
Njihova pravila mozda nisu dobra pravila, ali su njihova.
I moja supruga i ja smo 17godina obrazovanja, i vec smo radili u inostranstvu, niko nam nije diplomu prevodio kao master, uvek kao bachelor. Mozda nije kako treba ali tako je.
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Dragi saborci,
Sinoc se vratih iz Beca i u nasim pasosima se napokon nalaze kanadske ulazne vize!
Kada otvorismo pasose, kao sunce da nas je ozarilo u tom momentu. Rekoh supruzi juce, kako su nam ovo prve vize u kojima pise "immigrant" umesto "tourist/visitor/bussines, ... etc.".
Kao poklon za sve vas, jedna kratka reportaza:
U ovoj zgradi se nalazi Visa Office koji toliko cesto pominjemo:
A ovo je cilj sveg naseg ulozenog truda:
Zivi bili i svi da ih imate sto pre u svojim pasosima!
Pozdrav.
Sinoc se vratih iz Beca i u nasim pasosima se napokon nalaze kanadske ulazne vize!
Kada otvorismo pasose, kao sunce da nas je ozarilo u tom momentu. Rekoh supruzi juce, kako su nam ovo prve vize u kojima pise "immigrant" umesto "tourist/visitor/bussines, ... etc.".Kao poklon za sve vas, jedna kratka reportaza:
U ovoj zgradi se nalazi Visa Office koji toliko cesto pominjemo:
A ovo je cilj sveg naseg ulozenog truda:
Zivi bili i svi da ih imate sto pre u svojim pasosima!
Pozdrav.
Znaci i nije bas tako jednostavno!
Sacekacu da mi prijateljica dodje pa cemo vidjeti sta cemo!
Hvala!
Dragi saborci,
Sinoc se vratih iz Beca i u nasim pasosima se napokon nalaze kanadske ulazne vize!
Kao poklon za sve vas, jedna kratka reportaza:
U ovoj zgradi se nalazi Visa Office koji toliko cesto pominjemo:
A ovo je cilj sveg naseg ulozenog truda:
Zivi bili i svi da ih imate sto pre u svojim pasosima!
Pozdrav.
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cestitam druze
svaka Vam cast 
