Немањићи то крили? Па зар није та прича потекла од њих?
да се вратимо мало теми
елем, ево шта сам нашао за хералдичку црну- она у неким традицијама нема значење боје:
према томе, грб Шумадије (Трибалије) из Рихенталове хронике (црна вепрова глава са стрелом на црвеном штиту) је хералдички потпуно исправан.
http://inkunabeln.digitale-sammlungen.de/Exemplar_R-178,1.html
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Szeliga coat of arms
Szeliga - is a Polish Coat of Arms. It was used by several szlachta families in the times of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
Bakszewicz, Białecki, Bieleński, Bieliński, Bodzanowski, Bodzanta, Bodzenta, Bonblewski, Borohowicz, Borstejko, Bossowski, Bostowski, Bożanta, Brukot, Bryski, Budzyński, Bukraba, Buławka, Cetowski, Chaliński, Charzewski, Charzyński, Chlistowski, Chryścinicz, Chrzczonowicz, Chwaliszewski, Cieszęcki, Czarnotulski, Czernicki, Czetowski, Czyżewicz, Dąbrowski, Długopolski, Dobiasz, Dobieszewski, Dobrochowski, Dobuszewski, Domentowicz, Dowojna (Dowojna-Krupski), Dowojno, Drygat, Dyppen, Dzierzbicki, Ewachewicz, Fargow, Farzyński, Frankowski, Garyantesiewicz, Garyantesowicz, Gerwałowski, Gerwatowski, Gierwatowski, Głupicki, Gorecki, Goregland, Gośniewski, Górecki, Górski, Grykolewski, Grzebiński, Haryantesowicz, Horehland, Hryhorowicz, Hulewicz, Jagiełka, Jordański, Kabieński, Kawski, Kimont, Kobelicki, Korecki, Kozierski, Krzakowski, Krzczonowicz, Kunsinowicz, Lancucki, Lasowski, Lassowski, Laszewski, Lebedowicz, Lebiedowicz, Lisikiewicz, Losowski, Lossowski, Lutomski, Łańcucki, Łaszewski, Łaszowski, Łączyński, Łosowski, Łossowski, Łukomski, Łyszkiewicz, Magiera, Magiero, Magierowski, Malewicz, Małaszewski, Marjański, Markowski, Maryański, Matkuszewski, Merecki, Mierecki, Mierzejewski, Mirecki, Mirecki, Magiera, Mirewicz, Mirowicki, Mirzejewski, Mirzejowski, Mochuczy, Mohuczy, Morosz, Moroz, Mostkowski, Nazarewicz, Nazarkowski, Niemojewski, Nizelski, Nizielski, Nogawczyński, Nogawka, Ogorzelewski, Ogorzelowski, Ostrouch, Piatychorowicz, Piątkowski, Piotraszko, Pląchowski, Pluciński, Podsoński, Pomuski, Potocki, Promiński, Proskurenko, Prumieński, Prumiński, Przeczkowski, Przesiadłowski, Puszkin, Puzowski, Ramieński, Ratocki, Ratołd, Rozdolski, Rytel, Rytelewski, Rytelski, Ryttel, Rzuchowski, Serwatowicz, Sieluziński, Skoruppa, Skorupski, Sławski, Smoczek, Smolikowski, Songin, Stanisławski, Stołyhwo, Storożenko, Stróżenko, Strusiński, Sufczyński, Suffczyński, Suszczyński, Sylwestrowicz, Szafrański,Szczerbski, Szeliga, Szeligowski, Szeliha, Szeliski, Szkarupa, Szołkowski, Szpadkowski, Szuszczyński, Szyjkiewicz, Świacki, Świestowski, Tomara, Trojanowski, Troszczyński, Trusiewicz, Trzebiński, Tumiański, Turzenin, Wach, Wargowski, Wnorowski, Wojcsik, Wojski, Wójsik, Wysokieński, Wysokiński, Zabawski, Złocki, Zubrzycki, Żegliński, Żernicki, Żurman, Żychliński.
The szlachta (Polish: szlachta, Belarusian: шляхта, šlachta, Lithuanian: šlėkta, šlėktos or bajorai ) was a privileged class with origins in the Kingdom of Poland. It gained considerable institutional privileges during the 1333-1370 reign of Casimir the Great. In 1413, following a series of tentative personal unions between the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Kingdom of Poland, the existing Lithuanian nobility formally joined the class.[1] As the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (1569–1795) evolved, its membership grew to include leaders of Ducal Prussia and the Ruthenian lands.
The origins of the szlachta are unclear and have been the subject of a variety of theories. Traditionally, its members were owners of landed property, often in the form of folwarks. The nobility negotiated substantial and increasing political privileges for itself until the late 18th century.
During the Partitions of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth from 1772 to 1795, its members lost their privileges. Until 1918, the legal status of the nobility was then dependent on policies of the Russian Empire, the Kingdom of Prussia, and the Habsburg Monarchy. Its privileges were legally abolished in the Second Polish Republic by the March Constitution in 1921.
Пољски племићки кланови воде порекло од средњовековних ратничких кланова који су ратовали за краља, војводе или обласне господаре. Осим пар изузетака, све пољске племићке породице које су припадале једном клану носиле су исти грб. Пољска реч грб (пољ. Herb) значи истовремено и грб али и припадност клану. Пољски кланови не подразумевају и територију, као што је то случај код шкотских кланова, већ чињеницу да припадају једној групи ратника (или витешком братству). Из тог разлога, понекад и неколико стотина породица једног клана, различитог порекла, имају право, и носе један исти грб.
неки од грбова пољских племићких кланова са месецом:
Table I
As can be seen from some examples of these coats of arms in their earliest known forms (Table I) there is a striking resemblance to some magical sigils from medieval and later grimoires (textbooks of magic. In later times under the influence of the West European heraldry, the elements of the coats of arms were convetionalized and represented as realistic objects such as stars, swords, arrows horse shoes etc. but it is still possible to reconstruct the original forms of these signs.
A distinctive feature of Polish heraldry is that one arms could have been used by dozens and in some cases by hundreds of families, all of which were believed to be related to one another though the exact genealogical links were so remote that they were no longer remembered. In fact they preceded the formation of family names. On the other hand, families of the same name may have used different arms which was the sign that they were not related and having the same name was just a coincidence.
There are two main theories concerning the origin of these typically Polish coats of arms. Both of them are very interesting and meaningful from the occult point of view, though the first one is considered historically incorrect. They are shortly as follows:
1) The runic theory: it was developed by Prof. Piekosiński at the end of the past century. He believed that the heraldic signs evolved from the Scandinavian runes brought to Poland by the Viking invaders who later settled in this country and became the noble class. Several books of his expounded a very elaborate system showing the way in which the coats of arms were generated from runic letters claiming for instance, that the crosses were added after adopting-the Christian religion as a sign of „sanctifying” the symbols.
2) The Sarmatian theory: ‘This is a current theory saying that the coats of arms of Polish nobility developed from magical characters of the Sarmatians which were called „tamgas”. According to tradition Polish nobility were the descendants of the ancient Sarmatians, and in fact Poland was often called Sarmatia or Sauromatia. In the 19th century this traditional belief was regarded as a myth, but now it is held to be based on truth. The tamgas were magical signs the exact purpose of which is not known. They were found on various objects of everyday use, on weapons, jewellery, etc. and were brought to Europe by the Sarmatians in the early centuries A.D, from their homeland on the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea where they bordered with the Persian Empire the land of the Magi. It is easy to see the similarity of the tamgas and the coats of arms of Polish nobility (Table II).
Table II
Another interesting and magically significant feature of Polish heraldry is that each coat of arms has a special word associated with it. This word is known as „zawolaniel” which means „a call” or „a cry” and very often its meaning and etymology is not known.
So having a magical character (coat of arms) and a word of power („zawolanie”), it seems possible to apply traditional magical techniques in order to get in contact with the „genius” of the family or its collective unconscious. As every individual has his Holy Guardian Angel similarly every family may be said to have its „Holy Guardian Archangel”, which may be contacted in this way.
These heraldic signs may also be looked upon from a different angle. They may be considered to be sigils which used to express some kind of a desire when they were created as the emblem of the family and later the desire itself was forgotten on the conscious level activating the unconscious level.
Tamgi from the book Sarmaci (Sarmats) – by prof. Tadeusz Sulimirski
Tamgas on objects and weapons
Tamgas and coats of arms
More interesting information about tamgas:
http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/30_Writing/301Tamgas/TamgasContentsEn.htm
http://www.tcoletribalrugs.com/article48WrightTamga.html
http://www.slavorum.com/index.php?topic=827.0
lima:
Вандал
Британски музеј (British Museum)
450-525 AD
кликни на слику за већу резолуцију
450-525 AD
Africa Proconsularis (today's northern Tunisia)
сасвим је могуће да је тамга (жиг) пронашла пут и у нашу средњовековну хералдику. ово је грб Санковића. њихов хералдички симбол је познат на основи печата, а најстарији пример је из 1369. постоје мишљења да је загонетни знак- стилизована котва (сидро), монограм речи Хум, или да је у питању неки сада већ заборављени предмет итд. мени личи на узенгију. у илирским грбовницима се грб Санковића не појављује. реконструкција на слици је заснована на представи печата из 1391. боје нису поуздано утврђене али се претпоставља да су то црвена и сребрна као на већини грбова наше властеле.
