ok gde da pocnem
ja jako postujem kujicku ali ono sto je one zvala kelti nisu kelti vec megalicani, pred indo evropljani. irski jezik nije keltski vec mesavina mnogih jezika od megalicana do slovena.
megalicane je kulturno unistila carkoliticka kultura koja je pocela da preradjuje bakar, kultura koja je nastala na balkanu i u centralnoj evropi. znaci kad su se oni pojavili megalicani su poceli da nestaju i najduze su se kulturno odrzali na britanskim ostrvima.
ko ih je genetski unistio ne znam? ocigledno neko sa r1b. u irskim analima se govori o nekoliko velikih najezdi na irsku. jedna je dosla iz male azije ili grcke morem do spanije, tu se zadrzala 1000 godina, pa nastavila za irsku (a ja kazem verovatno i za englesku i ostatak zapadne evrope). to su ti R1b.
zato danas imamo sledecu situaciju:
reci u srpskom koje se mogu objasniti slovenskim korenima, ni bilo kakvim drugim "indo evropskim" korenima ali mogu irskim. i imaju isto znacenje i tamo i ovde. to su megalitske reci.
primer: taraish
u nekoliko sela oko beograd (zeleznik, vranic) koja se nalaze na hrbatu dugih talasastih brda pocetka sumadije, kraj sela, odnosno deo posle kraja sela se zove taraish.
na irskom gaelic jeziku "tar ais" se uvek izgovara zajedno kao taraish i znaci posle kraja (beyond)
evo ovde sta sam o tome pisao na eupediji pa su mi rekli da je to nemoguce jer u sumadiji nikad nije bilo kelta....
I have been living in Ireland for last 17 years. My wife is Irish and my son learns Irish in school. I am surrounded with Irish language and culture all the time. I hear and speak (a bit) of their language and know how it is used. I have many native Irish speaker friends that I can consult. I also lived in Serbia, and understand the language and its nuances. I actually went to school in Zeleznik, which has a part called “taraish”. Taraish is located beyond the end of the village. Zeleznik is long and narrow settlement located on a crest of a long and narrow wave like hill like all the other villages in this area. My parents had a summer house in a village called Vranic, which also has a part called “taraish”. Taraish is located beyond the end of the village. Vranic is long and narrow settlement located on a crest of a long and narrow wave like hill. I asked the villagers in both villages and they claim that these areas have been called taraish for as long as anyone can remember. Taraish has no meaning in modern Serbian. In Ireland tar ais is always pronounced together as taraish and means beyond, after the end. I made this connection when I went to visit my parents in their summer house with my wife. She heard us talking about taraish and asked what we were talking about. When we told her that we were talking about the area at the far end of the village, she told me that this is how you would say it in Irish as well. You cannot get this kind of insights from books but from real life and real people actually using the language.
isto kao i ono kuickino kifeli, kifeli...
reci u irskom koje se ne mogu objasniti irskim korenima, ni bilo kakvim drugim "indo evropskim" korenima ali mogu slovenskim. i imaju isto znacenje i tamo i ovde. to su slovenske reci.
drvid
evo sta sam pisao na eupediji o tome
The modern English word druid derives from the Latin druides (pronounced [druˈides]), which itself was considered by ancient Roman writers to come from the native Celtic Gaulish word for these figures.[9][10][11] Other Roman texts also employ the form druidae, while the same term was used by Greek ethnographers as δρυΐδης (druidēs).[12][13] Although no extant Romano-Celtic inscription is known to contain the form,[9] the word is cognate with the later insular Celtic words, Old Irish druí ("druid, sorcerer") and early Welsh dryw ("seer").[11] Based on all available forms, the hypothetical proto-Celtic word may then be reconstructed as *dru-wid-s (pl. *druwides) meaning "oak-knower". The two elements go back to the Proto-Indo-European roots *deru-[14] and *weid- "to see".[15] The sense of "oak-knower" (or "oak-seer") is confirmed by Pliny the Elder,[11] who in his Natural History etymologised the term as containing the Greek noun δρύς (drus), "oak-tree"[16] and the Greek suffix -ιδης (-idēs).[17] The modern Irish word for Oak is Dara, as it derives to anglicised placenames like Derry, and Kildare (literally the "church of oak").
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid
Original proto “celtic” word is drvid or dervovid.
Drv – dervo – means tree in Serbian.
in Serbian Vid – means sight, videti means to see, predvideti means to foresee.
But also
in Serbian Veda – means a story, vedati, pripovedati means to tell a story, propovedati means to preach.
And also
in Serbian vidati means to cure to treat ill person, heal, vidar is a healer.
Seer, preacher, healer – all attributes of a shaman.
So drvid = drv – vid = tree shaman – tree worship priest,
The only translation that makes sense does not come from Gaelic languages, but from IE languages. You would expect that if this was a Gaelic religious title that the word would have deep meaning in Gaelic languages, but it doesn’t. This is what Irish Gaelic dictionary has to say about meaning of the word druid:
druid le = draw near
dún, druid = close down(vt, vi)
druid, dún = shut down(vt, vi)
druidim amach ó = to edge away from
druidim de bhlosc or de phreab = to snap shut
6 lá as a chéile, sé lá druidte = 6 days running
an ndruidfeá an doras, le do thoil = would you close the door please?
tarraing or druid isteach i leataobh = pull over(vi)(AUT)
One would expect something like holy man, seer, tree man or priest, something that has anything to do with “Celtic” religion. How is this possible? It is possible because druids were not Gaelic holy men, they were Celtic holy men. And Celts were not Gaels. But who were Celts then I wander??? And where did they come from?
evo jos jedne reci. na irskom se sunce kaze "grijan" odnosno ono sto greje...i to nema nikakav koren u irskom