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Vlado,da li si upucen kako stoje stvari sa diplomom stomatologa? Mislim sa nostrifikacijom diplome?

Oni sa diplomom stomatologa koji su zavrsili kod nas, moraju da polazu engleski i dva ispita:
Preliminary Examination i Final Examination - Clinical.
Prijateljica mi je polagala Preliminary u Atini i na zalost nije polozila. Posle toga je odustala, razocarana.

Clinical examination se polaze samo u Australiji, naravno ako se propisi nisu promenili u zadnjih godinu ili dve dana, sto je lako moguce, ali moraces da pises Australian Dental Council. Njihov website: http://www.australia-migration.com/page/ADC_Dentists/255. Bile su tada dve opcije: ili da se dodje u Australiju, mislim da je bilo samo u Melburnu i da ili samo polazes tamo, teoriju i praksu, ili da ides na njihov kurs od nekoliko nedelja i da polazes posle toga. Nije jeftino ali se kraju svega isplati.

Evo ti detaljnih informacija sa njihovog websita:

On this page you will find all forms and information documents pertaining to Dentists. All documents are listed under "Downloads," top right corner of this page.
Overview

The Australian Dental Council (ADC) is the organisation responsible for assessing overseas trained dentists to enable them to obtain registration in Australia. ADC also accredits Australian dental schools. The Dental Boards, the dental schools, the Royal Australasian Association are represented on the ADC.

Eligibility criteria

Overseas trained dentists are eligible to undertake the ADC examination procedure if they have completed and passed a dental degree which included at least four years' full-time academic study at a university recognised by the ADC and are eligible for registration as a dentist in their country of training.

Qualifications Immediately Acceptable to Registration Boards

Dentists with a Bachelor degree obtained from the United Kingdom or Ireland may have qualifications which may be acceptable to Dental Registration Boards for immediate registration.

Under the Mutual Recognition Act 1992, subject to certain conditions, if a person is registered to practise an occupation in one State or Territory they can carry out an equivalent occupation in any other State or Territory. Under the Trans-Tasman Mutual Recognition Arrangement (TTMRA) individuals registered or licensed to practise an occupation New Zealand are entitled to practise the equivalent occupation in any Australian State and Territory and visa versa. The TTMRA covers all occupations except medicine for which some form of registration, certification, licensing or other form of authorisation is required to practise legally. The Mutual Recognition Act and the TTMRA apply irrespective of where training was undertaken.

To find out if you can obtain registration under the provisions of the Mutual Recognition Act or the TTMRA you should contact the relevant registration authority in the Australian State or Territory in which you intend to practise.

As the acceptability of any dental qualification may change from time to time, you should seek up-to-date information from the Registration Boards.

Qualifications Not Immediately Acceptable to Registration Boards

If your qualifications do not immediately meet Australian requirements, there are two options. The first is to complete an Australian dental degree course at one of the Australian Universities listed at the end of this document.

The second option is to undertake the examination procedure conducted by the ADC described below.

Examination Procedures

The ADC examination procedures have been developed specifically to assess the qualifications of overseas trained dentists whose qualifications are not accepted as a basis for registration by Australian Dental Boards.

The examination procedure consists of three parts an Occupational English Test (OET); a Preliminary Examination (Multiple Choice Questions and Short Answer questions); and a Final Examination(clinical). These must be taken sequentially.

Occupational English Test (OET)

A comprehensive knowledge of English is essential to the practice of dentistry in Australia. The OET is organised by Language Australia. The OET assesses reading, writing, speaking and listening skills and takes about three and a half hours to complete. If your first language is not English or your dental training was not carried out in English, you must achieve a pass in all four sections of this test. At present, the OET is held twice each year both within Australia and overseas, in March/April and September/October.

If you want further information about the OET, you can contact Language Australia as the following address:
Language Australia Ltd GPO Box 372F, Melbourne, Victoria 3001. Tel + 61 3 9926 4779, Fax + 61 3 9926 4780 Web-site: http://sunsite.anu.edu.au/language-australia/index.html

You must pass this test, if applicable, or gain an exemption, before you proceed to the Preliminary Examination.

Preliminary Examination

The Preliminary Examination is a written examination in multiple choice and short written answer format. It is designed to test your knowledge of the practice of dentistry and of clinical and technical procedures as they are practised in Australia. Previous examination papers are not available, but sample multiple choice questions are made available to enrolled candidates.

Final Examination - Clinical

In order to be eligible to sit for the Final Examination you must pass the Preliminary Examination.

The clinical examination is held over three to six days and includes the following three blocks:

* Conservative Dentistry - Operative Dentistry and Paedodontics;
* Treatment Planning -including consideration of Periodontics and Removable Prosthodontics;
* Oral Surgery, Oral Diagnosis and Radiology.

Aspects of all clinical disciplines such as Orthodontics, Oral Medicine, Oral Pathology and Pharmacology will be included where appropriate (practical and/or theoretical and/or viva voce). You will be examined at the same level as that reached by recent graduates from Australian universities.

Examination Venues and Training

If you live overseas, you may take the OET and the ADC Preliminary Examination at an overseas venue. If you are in Australia, you can sit both these examinations in any of the State capital cities and some larger provincial centres.

The Preliminary Examination is usually held in the first week of March and in the first week of September each year. You are allowed unlimited attempts at this examination, but a new fee must be paid for each attempt.

The Final Examination is held only in Australia, usually twice a year in July and November. Candidates resident outside Australia may be able to obtain a temporary entry visa to cover a their own expense, the trip to Australia to attend the examination. The venue is currently in Melbourne. You are allowed two attempts ONLY at this Examination.

ADC Certificate

An ADC Certificate is issued upon successful completion of the ADC examination procedure. The ADC Certificate entitles you to apply for registration to any of the Australian Dental Boards.


SRECNO (to je od mene, naravno. ADC to ne kaze :-))
 
Vlado,hvala,ali sam sve ovo davno vec bila nasla, tako da sam otprilike spremna za tako nesto (ili bar mislim).

Interesovalo me da li je neko to realno,u stvarnosti i odradio.Da li je ipak moguce to dostici i da je taj neko neciji prijatelj,pa eto price iz druge ruke.Cula sam bila da je cena ispita iz jednog klinickog predmeta oko 2500 AD.Ali,opet i to je nesto neprovereno.
Hvala ti na trudu,bas si strasan:)
 
Pozdrav svima!
nekoliko puta sam citao stranice na ovom forumu i zaista moze dosta korisnih informacioja da se nadje. Ali mi ipak nesto stvara nedoumicu. Naime, da li zanimanje koje uzmem iz SOL-a, odnosno skolske kvalifikacije moraju da budu u vezi sa mojim sadasnjim poslom. Tj, ako imam kvalifikacije koje nose 50 bodova a radim na poslu koji nosi 40 sta ima prednost?
 
Oni sa diplomom stomatologa koji su zavrsili kod nas, moraju da polazu engleski i dva ispita:
Preliminary Examination i Final Examination - Clinical.
Prijateljica mi je polagala Preliminary u Atini i na zalost nije polozila. Posle toga je odustala, razocarana.



SRECNO (to je od mene, naravno. ADC to ne kaze :-))

Vlado,sve sam ja ovo vec bila nasla,tako da mi nije nepoznato.Ali sam htela da cujem neku tvoju ,realnu pricu da je neko to odradio ili neki prijatelj tvog prijatelja.Recimo, cula sam da je cena polaganja iz jednog klinickog predmeta 2500 AD, ali opet ne iz prve ruke.
Zao mi je tvoje prijateljice sto je odustala.Covek se jednom u zivotu odluci na takav potez i treba snage da se izgura do kraja.
 
Vlado,sve sam ja ovo vec bila nasla,tako da mi nije nepoznato.Ali sam htela da cujem neku tvoju ,realnu pricu da je neko to odradio ili neki prijatelj tvog prijatelja.Recimo, cula sam da je cena polaganja iz jednog klinickog predmeta 2500 AD, ali opet ne iz prve ruke.
Zao mi je tvoje prijateljice sto je odustala.Covek se jednom u zivotu odluci na takav potez i treba snage da se izgura do kraja.

Na zalost ne znam nikoga ko je uspeo mada sam cuo da ima par nasih zubara ovde u Pertu koji su stigli i rade. Ne znam njihovu pricu. Sve sam mislio da ce ti se neko javiti ko je uspesno prosao ovo sve.

Moje informacije su stara mozda cak i 3 godine. Tada je cifra mislim za polaganje bila mnogo manja ali je bio skup jedno-mesecni kurs zajedno sa polaganjem u Melburnu. Tada je cifra mislim bila oko $15,000. Samo polaganje nije tako skupo. Ja sam nabavljao literaturu za preliminary exam i dental council je poslao ogroman spisak preporucene literature. Nasao sam samo deo i to iz Amerike posto su skoro sve knjige za zubarstvo bile iz USA. Kupovao sam polovne knjige i slao ih direktno za Srbiju.

Savetovao bih ti da posaljes email -upit ADC i konkretnot da ih pitas, hoces da imigriras za Australiju, stomatolog si i interesuje te svi detalji oko polaganja ispita, cena, rokova itd.

Poslace ti sve informacije pa ces znati i koje su trenutne cene.

Ako mogu jos nesto da pomognem, javi.

Pozdrav
 
Vlado,sve sam ja ovo vec bila nasla,tako da mi nije nepoznato.Ali sam htela da cujem neku tvoju ,realnu pricu da je neko to odradio ili neki prijatelj tvog prijatelja.Recimo, cula sam da je cena polaganja iz jednog klinickog predmeta 2500 AD, ali opet ne iz prve ruke.
Zao mi je tvoje prijateljice sto je odustala.Covek se jednom u zivotu odluci na takav potez i treba snage da se izgura do kraja.

Evo gde mozes saznati za cenu:

For current information on fees for the Eligibility Assessment, Preliminary Examination, or Final Examination, please enquire by emailing: Info@adc.org.au
 
Nisam upućen koliko koštaju školarine, ako imaš neki link, ili bi mogao da se raspitaš, dobro bi mi došlo.

Engleski stvarno znam, čak sam sada na turneji bio glavni prevodilac.

Primetio sam da kada pričam na engleskom, ja i razmišljam na engleskom, ali kada treba da se nešto računa, ja prvo moram da prevedem broj, pa na srpskom da ga računam.

Par puta, posle razgovora sa organizatorima (, a ta priča ume da se oduži, te traje i po 3 sata), ja se društvu u nekim "brzim situacijama" obratim na engleskom, i gledam ih, i ne provaljujem što me onako belo gledaju...
 
Nisam upućen koliko koštaju školarine, ako imaš neki link, ili bi mogao da se raspitaš, dobro bi mi došlo.

Engleski stvarno znam, čak sam sada na turneji bio glavni prevodilac.

Primetio sam da kada pričam na engleskom, ja i razmišljam na engleskom, ali kada treba da se nešto računa, ja prvo moram da prevedem broj, pa na srpskom da ga računam.

Par puta, posle razgovora sa organizatorima (, a ta priča ume da se oduži, te traje i po 3 sata), ja se društvu u nekim "brzim situacijama" obratim na engleskom, i gledam ih, i ne provaljujem što me onako belo gledaju...

Nemam link, moraces da uradis malo instrazivanje u Google.
Racunaj otprilike $10,000 Australijskih dolara godisnje samo za skolarinu.
Verovatno bi ti trazili da dokazes znanje jezika. First Certificate in English, Advanced English, Proficiency in English ili IELTS bi bili dovoljan dokaz.
 
Nisam upućen koliko koštaju školarine, ako imaš neki link, ili bi mogao da se raspitaš, dobro bi mi došlo.


Alex daj malo procesljaj forum pre nego sto postavis pitanje!

@vmh

Moguce je, ali potrebno je da dostignes nivo znanja engleskog jezika koji zahteva kurs koji bi dalje pohadjao.
Za vizu je potrebno oko 3 meseca. Nakon svake promene kursa vadis novu vizu.
Racunaj da je godisnja skolarina minimum oko 10 000 aud i da ti je za vizu potrebno da na racunu imas novac za skolarinu + 12 000aud po godini ostanka i da novac na tvom racunu mora da lezi minimum 3 meseca da bi te ozbiljno shvatili.
Inace studenska viza ti omogucava da radis legalno do 20 sati nedeljno.
Za dodatne informacije pogledaj www.immi.gov.au i http://studyinaustralia.gov.au/Sia/en/Home
 
Pitanje za VladuK:

Mama mi je sestra.

Da li se može u AU naći na klinikama posao, ali da su spremni da budu sponzor?

Ima li takvih?

Ne verujem. Kakva je trenutna situacija sa povecanjem nezaposlenosti, tesko da ce bila koja klinika/bolnica ici na sponzorstvo i rizike kad moze da nadje lokalnu radnu snagu.

Mozda neko ima drugu ideju ili informaciju.

Pozdrav
 
Sa uciteljima ide malo teze sto se tice dobijanje dozvole.
Prije svega zahtjev za Engleski je jako visok. Academic overall score 7 a negdje(WA) cak i 8.
Svaka drzava ima udruzenje prosvjetnj radnika koje dodjeljuje licence za nastavnike.
 

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