Stojan Rajchevski i velikobugarska propaganda

[miroljubivi]

Bugaromani imaju i danas velikobugarske aspiracije prema svim susednim državama i narodima. Bilo bi dobro kada bi Srbija sklopila pakt sa Grčkom, Makedonijom, Turskom i Rumunijom protiv velikobugarskih mitomana, fašista, nacista i genocidaša. Jer protiv udruženih Srba, Grka, Turaka, Rumuna i Makedonaca kojih zajedno ima preko 150 miliona a takozvanih Bugara samo 7-8 miliona bi za Bugare i njihov fašistički i nacistički velikobugarski projekat stvari postale mnogo teže.

 

[ZabranjeniLegenda]

Srbi nisu nikoga asimilovali. Zapravo su Srbi postali ostali Sloveni (pripadnici ostalih slovenskih plemena).

Ko misli da su svi Srbi, ne zna ko su zapravo Srbi.

 

[Crnugović]

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Bulgaria, since both its ancient and modern beginnings, has been invariably a multiethnic, mainly Slavic and Turkic, polity. School textbooks in Bulgaria lavish much attention on the ancient Bulgars, who in the Middle Ages founded several Bulgarias from the Volga to Italy, including the surviving one in the Balkans. However, the teaching materials employed in Bulgarian schools prefer to dub these Turkic-speaking Bulgars as “Bulgarians” (or sometimes “Proto-Bulgarians”), so that in Bulgarian vocabulary no distinction is maintained between Turkic Bulgars and Slavophone Bulgarians. In the Bulgarian language the same term “Bulgarians” (Българи Bılgari) is used for referring to these two different ethnic groups, thus suggesting – falsely – full historic and demographic continuity between both. Unsurprisingly after this kind of mis-education, most Bulgarians now see the ancient Bulgars as their “Slavic-speaking ancestors ”.

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But little or no administrative pressure was applied to non-Muslims to convert to Islam, let alone any violence. The Ottomans would hate to see a significant drop in taxes collected from non-Muslims or their richest province engulfed in sectarian wars.""
https://neweasterneurope.eu/2019/03/24/bulgarias-denial-of-its-ottoman-past-and-turkish-identity/

Ovaj zadnji deo mi je sporan "no administrative pressure", al poznavaoci bi mogli pojasnit.

 

[Casual Observer]

Dokaz? Pogotovo za Bugare?

Zapadna bugarska, do Jatove granice (istočno od nje je refleks jata ‘ja’ (npr “njama” umesto ‘nema’), koriste oblik ‘az‘ za ličnu zamenicu ‘ja’, umesto našeg ‘ć’ stoji “št” (‘nošt’ umesto ‘noć’), “žd” umesto “đ” pa je naša ‘međa’ tamo “mežda”, itd.) se slavi slava, one istočno od Jatove granice je veoma teško razumeti => Bugari čiji je govor bitno razumljiviji Srbima (zapadni) slave slavu, ostali ne. Šta bi mogao biti uzrok tome?

 

[Casual Observer]

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Bulgaria, since both its ancient and modern beginnings, has been invariably a multiethnic, mainly Slavic and Turkic, polity. School textbooks in Bulgaria lavish much attention on the ancient Bulgars, who in the Middle Ages founded several Bulgarias from the Volga to Italy, including the surviving one in the Balkans. However, the teaching materials employed in Bulgarian schools prefer to dub these Turkic-speaking Bulgars as “Bulgarians” (or sometimes “Proto-Bulgarians”), so that in Bulgarian vocabulary no distinction is maintained between Turkic Bulgars and Slavophone Bulgarians. In the Bulgarian language the same term “Bulgarians” (Българи Bılgari) is used for referring to these two different ethnic groups, thus suggesting – falsely – full historic and demographic continuity between both. Unsurprisingly after this kind of mis-education, most Bulgarians now see the ancient Bulgars as their “Slavic-speaking ancestors ”.

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But little or no administrative pressure was applied to non-Muslims to convert to Islam, let alone any violence. The Ottomans would hate to see a significant drop in taxes collected from non-Muslims or their richest province engulfed in sectarian wars.""
https://neweasterneurope.eu/2019/03/24/bulgarias-denial-of-its-ottoman-past-and-turkish-identity/

Ovaj zadnji deo mi je sporan "no administrative pressure", al poznavaoci bi mogli pojasnit.

To su bugarske nacionalno-mitološke basne: nek neko samo proba da živi u Bugarskoj i da se ne izjašanjava kao Bugarin…

 

[Casual Observer]

Srbi su naselili Beograd od 1833 i mesali se za Grcima i Jermenima, a ti mi dajes izvor iz 1890.

Srbi su ko svaki drugi narod asimilirali, to su fakti, tu nema sta da se mnogo filozofise, da su Srbi jedini narod na ovoj zemaljskog kugli gde pripadnici tog naroda se odvoje od svog naroda.

Srbi “naselili” Beograd 1833? A kad su Hrvati zaposeli Zagreb?

 

[Casual Observer]

Bugari neironično prisvajaju torlačke govore u istočnoj Srbiji, čak i neke štokavske.

Sve što se naziva “torlačkim” govorima je štaroštokavski dijalekt. Fonetika je potpuno štokavska.

 

[Casual Observer]

A sta je ono sta se desava u istocnoj Srbiji za Vlasima ako ne neka vrsta asimilacije.

Inace istoriski je dokazano da su se u Srbe razne druge slovenske i neslovenske utopili. Od nemackih gastarbajtera u Srbiji u srednjem veku do gradskih pravoslavaca u srpskim gradovima posle oslobodjenja od Turaka (Grka, Jermena i.t.d.).

Inace koliko to mozda Torlake, Sope i Makedonce vredjalo, da su oni imali vrlo klimav i menljiv nacionalni osecaj to su fakti. U Bosni je srpstvo tamosnjih pravoslavaca bilo mnogo jace nego u Nisu, iako ljudi koji misle da svet postoji od Tita kao komsija ne mogu to da svate.

Ne lupetaj, Torlaci postoje u nekoliko sela kod Pirota, a u Nišu je bilo okršaja sa Egzarhijom koja je iza sebe imala Turke: kad o nečemu nemaš pojma onda bolje da ćutiš.

Zbog čega su etnički Bugari iz centralne i istočne Bugarske, katolik Dragan Cankov i pravoslavni Jordanča-paša Bakalov (za razliku od Srba pravoslavni Bugari su mogli da budu osmanlijski funkcioneri) postavljeni za muavina (zamenik paše) u Nišu (Cankov) i pravog pašu, Jordanča-paša Bakalov u Pirotu? Možda da više suzbijali buntovni Srbi? Ko pojma nema o ustancima u Srbiji bolje da ćuti.

 

[Casual Observer]

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Bulgaria, since both its ancient and modern beginnings, has been invariably a multiethnic, mainly Slavic and Turkic, polity. School textbooks in Bulgaria lavish much attention on the ancient Bulgars, who in the Middle Ages founded several Bulgarias from the Volga to Italy, including the surviving one in the Balkans. However, the teaching materials employed in Bulgarian schools prefer to dub these Turkic-speaking Bulgars as “Bulgarians” (or sometimes “Proto-Bulgarians”), so that in Bulgarian vocabulary no distinction is maintained between Turkic Bulgars and Slavophone Bulgarians. In the Bulgarian language the same term “Bulgarians” (Българи Bılgari) is used for referring to these two different ethnic groups, thus suggesting – falsely – full historic and demographic continuity between both. Unsurprisingly after this kind of mis-education, most Bulgarians now see the ancient Bulgars as their “Slavic-speaking ancestors ”.

""
But little or no administrative pressure was applied to non-Muslims to convert to Islam, let alone any violence. The Ottomans would hate to see a significant drop in taxes collected from non-Muslims or their richest province engulfed in sectarian wars.""
https://neweasterneurope.eu/2019/03/24/bulgarias-denial-of-its-ottoman-past-and-turkish-identity/

Ovaj zadnji deo mi je sporan "no administrative pressure", al poznavaoci bi mogli pojasnit.