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Nedavno si pitao za Lisičansk :zblesav: , pre toga za Severodonjeck, Izjum, Liman ..........ah, Marijino Polje

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Pitao sam ja prije 4 mjeseca jel pao Kijev,Harkiv,Sumi,Nikolajev ...ali eto našao si zrno satisfakcije u cjelokunoj frustraciji od Lisabona do Severska u 5 mjeseci :mrgreen:
 
Народна милиција се не зауставља.
Северск наш.
Идемо даље.

Сви Џавечини, нвлав, Краб, ПзХ2000, Цезар, Бајрактари, Свичблејд, или како би то хрватски војни аналитиЋар Табар рекао - СвиЋблејд, Старлинк, Бушмастер, Гепард, М777, Химарс итд, ништа не може Русе ни да успори.
 
This is Sparta:
Народна милиција се не зауставља.
Северск наш.
Идемо даље.

Сви Џавечини, нвлав, Краб, ПзХ2000, Цезар, Бајрактари, Свичблејд, или како би то хрватски војни аналитиЋар Табар рекао - СвиЋблејд, Старлинк, Бушмастер, Гепард, М777, Химарс итд, ништа не може Русе ни да успори.
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Nije još zauzet. Ovi iz LNR mlate praznu slamu.
 

In the LPR announced the capture of Seversk​

18.07.2022 - 16:45
In the LPR announced the capture of Seversk | Russian spring
Seversk is under the control of the forces of the Luhansk People's Republic, said Vitaly Kiselev, Assistant Minister of the Interior of the LPR.
“Seversk is under our control,” he said on Channel One.
He also expressed hope that Soledar, located 15 kilometers from Bakhmut (Artemovsk), would be released within a few days.
Seversk is located 30 kilometers west of Lisichansk, previously liberated by the allied forces.
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The city with a population of about 11 thousand people is located at a fork in the road, one of which leads south to Bakhmut (Artemovsk), which is an important transport hub. The second road leads further to the west, to the Slavic-Kramatorsk agglomeration.
 
Germanci se birinu i da pored turbine koja ce biti i prosledjena trajektom do finske a onda transportovana do rusije i gasne stanice , da i nece dobiti gas ,.
Ruska strana je i zatrazila od Simensa , kompletnu dokumentaciju o Turbinama ...


Germany fears Russia will cut supplies via Nord Stream​

18.07.2022 - 15:50
Germany fears that Russia will cut supplies via Nord Stream | Russian spring
The German government suspects that Russia will cut gas supplies via Nord Stream. Bild newspaper wrote about it.
According to the publication, the head of the department of the German Chancellor, Wolfgang Schmidt, organized a meeting with the heads of state administrations, which was devoted to discussing the gas crisis.
On it, Schmidt spoke about the fears of the federal authorities about the fact that Russia will not fully resume gas supplies after the repair of the pipeline.
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On the same day, Canada shipped a Siemens Energy turbine for the Nord Stream gas pipeline to Germany.
The turbines needed to service Nord Stream were being serviced in Canada. Ottawa sanctions prevented the company from returning them. Gazprom announced the shutdown of three gas pumping units.
Because of this, the flow of gas to Germany through Nord Stream has decreased to 40% of the gas pipeline's capacity . Berlin had to start extracting gas from storage facilities. In addition, experts pointed out that the country runs the risk of not stocking up for the winter. Germany turned to Canada with a request to return the turbine to the Russian company.
On July 10, Reuters reported that Ottawa would return the repaired turbine at the request of Germany, despite anti-Russian sanctions.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said July 13 that the decision to hand over the turbine was "difficult".
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On July 13, Russian Charge d'Affaires in Canada Vladimir Proskuryakov said that the Canadian authorities' attempt to send a turbine for the Nord Stream gas pipeline to Germany was a precedent. According to him, this example shows that unilateral sanctions, even without retaliatory measures, harm not only those against whom they are directed, but also those who impose them.
On July 16, Gazprom asked Siemens to provide documents that would allow the removal of a turbine for the Portovaya compressor station. The company said that they are counting on the unconditional fulfillment by the Siemens group of companies of their obligations as part of the maintenance of gas turbine engines, on which the reliable operation of the Nord Stream gas pipeline and the provision of natural gas to European consumers depend.
 

This is Sparta:
Народна милиција се не зауставља.
Северск наш.
Идемо даље.

Сви Џавечини, нвлав, Краб, ПзХ2000, Цезар, Бајрактари, Свичблејд, или како би то хрватски војни аналитиЋар Табар рекао - СвиЋблејд, Старлинк, Бушмастер, Гепард, М777, Химарс итд, ништа не може Русе ни да успори.
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Саксоне си прескоЋио! :maramica:
 
Pacho Herrera:
Medvedev o eventualnom napadu na Krim: "Ako se ovako nešto desi, to će biti sudnji dan za sve njih."

Pogledajte prilog 1189449
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Krim je postao interesantan i dobar pokazatelj koliko jedan deo članova ovog foruma svesno ili nesvesno (ne ulazim u to) krši međunarodno pravo sa svojim komentarima iz kojih se jasno može zaključiti da podržavaju Krim kao deo Rusije... To isto važi i za Medvedeva, pa zato repliciram na ovu vest:

Gospodo, da se vratimo malo u prošlost, neke stvari ste pozaboravljali...

Kada su Rusija , Ukrajina i Belorusija u potaji počele da se konsultuju oko toga kako da se rasformira SSSR (mada je Belorusija bila nevoljna, ali to je druga tema) i napravi nova zajednica (današnja ZND) , razgovaralo se i o granicama. Onog trenutka kada je SSSR zvanično prestao da postoji , sve države naslednice su opštepriznate u zacrtanim granicama kako su predstavljene te 1991. godine . Znači, niko se nije bunio , sve je bilo transparentno. Ja ne sumnjam da je tu bilo korekcija tipa "meni daj još to parče zemlje, reku ..." ali se sve radilo u korist tih novostvorenih država.

Znači vratimo se u '91/'92 kada Ukrajina postoji kao nezavisna država. Na zapadu ima sve do Užgoroda i Berehova , na istoku Donbas , na jugu Krim i na severu malo dalje od Kijeva prema Černobilju koliko im i sada pripada. Rusija , kao i ostale zemlje, prizna Ukrajinu u tim granicama i potpiše niz sporazuma o saradnji. Još su od njih tražili da prebace nuklearno oružje 1995. u Rusiju.

I sad, kada je došlo do sukoba 2014. , kako očekujete da iko ko je iole normalan kaže da je legalno prisvojiti teritoriju druge zemlje koju prethodno sam priznaš u tim istim granicama!?

O kakvom međunarodnom pravu Rusije Vi pričate? Kako možete da pričate o suverenitetu Srbije ako kao zvaničnici Rusije pljujete po svom prvom susedu sa kojim delite granicu?

Isto bi važilo i da su stvari hipotetički obrnute. Da je Rusija odmah tražila Krim za sebe, i da je Ukrajina ta koja ga je prisvojila, opet nema pravo na to, to bi opet bilo ilegalno sa moje tačke gledišta.

Stvarno neki put treba da se stidite svojih komentara o Krimu, ovamo hoćete pravdu po pitanju Kosova da primenite a nemate poštovanje prema drugima. Sramota.
 
Ukrajinci negiraju da su unisteni :rotf:


USA: Russians are the first to destroy the HIMARS MLRS as part of the hostilities​

07/18/2022 07:10 (Updated: 07/18/2022 10:34 AM)
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US analysts are skeptical of Kyiv's attempts to refute the reports of the Russian Defense Ministry about the destruction of the warehouse of Harpoon and HIMARS missiles.
USA: Russians are the first to destroy the HIMARS MLRS as part of the hostilities


Earlier in Ukraine, they assured that the Russian Armed Forces struck not at a warehouse with missiles, but at a lumber processing plant. US experts say that if the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine decided to place missiles in the warehouse of an industrial facility, then "there is no contradiction in this."
But also, according to experts, the Russian Federation is quite capable of destroying them with its high-precision weapons from a long distance.
After footage of the destruction of the HIMARS multiple launch rocket system was released the day before, military analysts noted that no one had previously managed to destroy these MLRS in direct combat, writes Voennoye obozreniye.
In the near future, the Americans plan to provide the Armed Forces with four more HIMARS installations. But the further arming of the Kyiv authorities is increasingly suspicious in the West, and especially among military experts.


Читайте больше на https://military.pravda.ru/news/1728035-unichtozhat_himars_v_ramkakh_boevykh_deistvii/
 
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