Ministarstvo vera Republike Srbije registrovalo Jehovine svedoke

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Padre:
Da se razumemo nisu JS jedini koji ne nose oruzje. Pa hiljade nazarena su tokom XIX i XX veka u Srbiji robiajle po 10-20 godina jer nisu nosili oruzje oa nikom nista. A pusku ne nose ni neki adventisti, meneoniti, amisi (njih kod nas nema ali tek su oni po tome specificni).
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Neki adventisti, neki ostali... kod JS niko ne uzima oruzje u ruke niti ratuje... niti je ratovao...
 
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Neki adventisti, neki ostali... kod JS niko ne uzima oruzje u ruke niti ratuje... niti je ratovao...
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Ma nije valjda... baš niko kod Jehovinih svedoka ne uzima oružje u ruke? :think:
Gle šta sam našao:
Jehovah's Witnesses caught by police after killing spree in Russia

Two Jehovah's Witnesses have been accused of murdering 13 people on a mad "mission from God".

Vladimir Gurianov, 44, and Elvira Egorycheva 46, are said to have hacked, bludgeoned and shot their innocent victims in a nine-month killing spree.

They also robbed their victims on "God's orders". Gurianov told detectives after his arrest: "God told us to go and take the money. He said, 'Go there and take as much as you need'. So we did."

Police say the killings began after Egorycheva told Gurianov that God spoke to her in a vision and gave instructions.

Their mission took them to a city in Russia's Volga region. Egorycheva had said: "God wants us to go to Nizhniy Novgorod and cleanse the world of sinners".

A neighbour there recalled: "They were odd. He called her 'mother' or 'Princess Elena'. She called him 'my son, Prince Mikhail'."

The first victim was fortune-teller Ludmila Kostina, 51.

The next day they murdered another fortuneteller, Nina Mashtakova, 66, whose valuables they stole.

Gurianov, a convicted rapist with "mad eyes", and his partner are then thought to have stopped a 17-year-old girl.

Egorycheva told her: "Stop, sinner! I, Princess Elena and my son Prince Mikhail, have been sent by God to punish you."

Gurianov raped the girl before killing her with a hammer.

He later told police: "Mother explained every woman killed or raped by me would become my wife in the afterlife."

Gurianov later boasted of another murder. He said: "I shot at the head of this woman, but she was still alive. I shot her a second time and she fell.

"But as I was digging a grave I realised she was still alive and just watching me. So you'll understand I had to stab her."

The couple are also suspected of killing 18-year-old student Masha Maslennikova, whose body has not been found.

Other victims may include Ludmila Kotelnikova, 45, and Elena Lomteva, 37 - both discovered near their holiday homes.

One victim died when Gurianov replied to an advertisement of puppies for sale. The victim screamed as her 17-year-old son returned home: "Run, boy!"

The killers' pictures were circulated by police and they were spotted in a store and caught.

Egorycheva had a revolver, two axes, an electric shock device and a rope. A gun and a knife were found in Gurianov's jacket.

One detective said: "Our hearts bleed. They enjoy talking about what they've done. What is jail to them? If ever there is a case for capital punishment, this is it."

VICTIM LUDMILA KOSTINA

AGE 44

Job Fortune teller

Killed After they answered

VICTIM MASHA MASLENNIKOVA

AGE 18

Job Student

Killed Missing since May, her body has not been found

VICTIM ELENA LOMTEVA

AGE 37

Killed Body was found near her holiday home in the Volga region

VICTIM LUDMILA KOSTELNIKOVA

AGE 45

Killed Also found near her holiday home

God wants us to cleanse the world of sinners

ACCUSED ELVIRA EGORYCHEVA

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/09/26/let-us-prey-115875-20753376/
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Padre:
Da se razumemo nisu JS jedini koji ne nose oruzje. Pa hiljade nazarena su tokom XIX i XX veka u Srbiji robiajle po 10-20 godina jer nisu nosili oruzje oa nikom nista. A pusku ne nose ni neki adventisti, meneoniti, amisi (njih kod nas nema ali tek su oni po tome specificni).
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Ima mala razlika izmedju nazarena i js. Nazareni nisu trazili zastitu drzave i pristajali su na zatvor zbog vere. JS traze da budu zakonom zasticeni, zato sto nece da stite drzavu.
Meni to lici na parazitizam, ali sa druge strane to je veoma uspesna zivotna forma. :mrgreen:
 
pandkungfu:
Ima mala razlika izmedju nazarena i js. Nazareni nisu trazili zastitu drzave i pristajali su na zatvor zbog vere. JS traze da budu zakonom zasticeni, zato sto nece da stite drzavu.
Meni to lici na parazitizam, ali sa druge strane to je veoma uspesna zivotna forma. :mrgreen:
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Sorry, ali sta bi bila zalba Nazarena Ligi naroda ako ne zahtev za zakonsku zastitu??? Zbog rada na istoriji protestantizma u Srbiji proveo sam dosta vremena po nasim i stranim arhivama... Ima tu svega i svacega.
S druge strane zbog ovakvog stava nasih vlasti, Nazareni su dobijali dosta dodatnih bodova za iseljenje u Kanadu, USA i Australiju.
 
Padre:
Sorry, ali sta bi bila zalba Nazarena Ligi naroda ako ne zahtev za zakonsku zastitu??? Zbog rada na istoriji protestantizma u Srbiji proveo sam dosta vremena po nasim i stranim arhivama... Ima tu svega i svacega.
S druge strane zbog ovakvog stava nasih vlasti, Nazareni su dobijali dosta dodatnih bodova za iseljenje u Kanadu, USA i Australiju.
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Zelja za politickom zastitom?

Bilo bi lepo da smo zemlje kao Kanada i SAD koje vec vise od sto godina nisu vodile rat na svojoj teritoriji. :confused:
 
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Ovo je sjajna vest. Sad i Jozef Fricl može na miru da se spasi, samo da prihvati Isusa kao spasitelja kad čuje vest od lučonoša iz priznate denominacije...



Već vidim kako Sveti Petar baca kosku Čarlsu T. Raselu i kaže "el sam ti rek'o... neće proći ni 600 godina otkad ste se osnovali a priznaće vas čak i Tanzanija..."
 
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