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Sandanski:
Није то тема............
али схвати да су бранили СРБИ тада да се МАКЕДОНЦИ изјашњавају тако..........ТО је опште познато човече!
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А сад није то тема?Бежиш, јер немаш аргумената.

Где то нису могли да се изјасне? На попису? Ни Срби нису могли да се изјасне на попису, јер се није питало о народности.
 
Sandanski:
То ти тако не учиш у својим школама-Српским.....

а то што ти тераш неки инат мени мене баш заболе...:roll:
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Она Пириватрићева расправа што је Црни Бугарин поставио се баш чита на испиту Историја Византије када се обрађује Самуилова држава и Василије Бугароубица. Тако да, нећеш ти да ми причаш шта се код нас учи у школама.

А то што си се ти заинатио као магарчина, укопао и укопистио, не попушташ пред доказима, чињеницама и образложењима, и онда из лицемерја то приписујеш другима, твој је проблем. Овде те готово нико неће иоле узети за озбиљно докле год се тако понашаш.
 
сетите се за храброг ЦАРА САМОИЛА македонског великана.
Да се покажемо као њихови достојни потомци.

Нови Сад, 26.IX / 9.10. 1902,

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http://www.beograd.rs/cms/view.php?id=1239

971.
Vizantija osvaja Beograd

posle 976.
Grad preuzima car Samuilo

1018.
Car Vasilije II ruši makedonsko carstvo i Beograd opet postaje vizantijski
1072.
Vizantija preuzela Beograd

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http://www.rastko.rs/rastko-bl/istorija/corovic/istorija/2_6_l.html
Država maćedonskih Slovena

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Српски уџбеник

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Тако да..ви учите да је Македонац....а сада гидла...мало на Сонце...:roll:
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Sandanski:
Тако да..ви учите да је Македонац....а сада гидла...мало на Сонце...:roll:
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Мани ме тих уџбеника из доба братсвта и јединства. Ја ти кажем шта се сад учи, кад су књиге деполитизоване.

А ти Магарски, само терај по своме:
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Узгред, само да напоменем како лажеш и манипулишеш чињеницама. Наводиш овде Ћоровића како каже "држава маћедонских Словена", а испушташ део где каже "S toga je njegova država smatrana kao nastavak stare Bugarske od svih savremenika, pa i od same Vizantije." :rtfm:

Ниско, веома ниско.
 
Tsar Samuel, his dynasty and his kingdom are not the only "macedonized" part of the world history. This is an example of contemporary ethnic Macedonian pseudo-history, which is very close to the semi-official propaganda, tolerated by the ruling party VMRO-DPMNE. The text asserts that the first white men on Earth were... the so called Macedonoids or the Macedonian race:

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Bajo Pivljanin:
Мучили и забрањивали? У краљевини СХС/Југославији се није изјашњавало о националној припадности ни на једном попису. Једино о верској и језичкој (а ова је била српско-хрватски). Поткрепи тврдње нечим...
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"At the 1938 Yugoslav elections, he was elected deputy but not a Member of Parliament because of a manipulation with the electoral system. In 1939, he was imprisoned at Velika Kikinda for co-organizing the Ilinden Demonstrations in Prilep. The following year, he imposed the use of the Macedonian language in school lectures and was therefore imprisoned at Bajina Bašta and sentenced to death by the government of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia for advocating the use of a language other than Serbo-Croatian. On April 15, 1941, he was presented to a firing squad, but was released just prior to being shot."

Metodija Andonov Cento
 
gjorgji_bgd:
"At the 1938 Yugoslav elections, he was elected deputy but not a Member of Parliament because of a manipulation with the electoral system. In 1939, he was imprisoned at Velika Kikinda for co-organizing the Ilinden Demonstrations in Prilep. The following year, he imposed the use of the Macedonian language in school lectures and was therefore imprisoned at Bajina Bašta and sentenced to death by the government of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia for advocating the use of a language other than Serbo-Croatian. On April 15, 1941, he was presented to a firing squad, but was released just prior to being shot."

Metodija Andonov Cento
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Видим, страна је потпуно поткрепљена изворима :ok
И поставио си то као да је убијен, кад оно цврц.

Шта пише код вас.."Ченто бил еден од организаторите на Илинденските демонстрации во Прилеп (1940), за што бил затворен во затворот во Велика Кикинда."
Људи коју раде против државе, обично заврше у затвору, која год дражва била у питању.
Видим и момунисти га хапсили, био скоро 10 година у затвору.
 
Bajo Pivljanin:
Видим, страна је потпуно поткрепљена изворима :ok
И поставио си то као да је убијен, кад оно цврц.

Шта пише код вас.."Ченто бил еден од организаторите на Илинденските демонстрации во Прилеп (1940), за што бил затворен во затворот во Велика Кикинда."
Људи коју раде против државе, обично заврше у затвору, која год дражва била у питању.
Видим и момунисти га хапсили, био скоро 10 година у затвору.
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bajo care rekao si sledece:
"Citat Original postavio Bajo Pivljanin Pogledaj poruku
Мучили и забрањивали? У краљевини СХС/Југославији се није изјашњавало о националној припадности ни на једном попису. Једино о верској и језичкој (а ова је била српско-хрватски). Поткрепи тврдње нечим..."

covek je bio izabran za poslanika, ai mu je to ZABRANJENO, pa je hteo da uvede makedonski jezik u prilepsku gimnaziju ali mu je i to ZABRANJENO i cak sta vise je za to OSUDJEN (nisam nigde rekao da je i ubijen - sentenced znaci osudjen - pogledaj malo recnik pa odna njaki) na smrt. to znaci da makednoci nisu bili zabranjivani u kraljevini SHS i kraljevini jugoslaviji i svi su im dozvoljavali da koriste svoj jezik i uopste nisu muceni ali ih je s vremena na vreme neko malo osudio na smrt?!?!? :) :) :) pogledaj datum kad je pusten!!! 15.01.41 !!!

i komunisti ga hapsili i bugari ga hapsili i drzali u zatvoru za vreme WWII - zato sto je covek bio pravi MAKEDONAC!!!
 
gjorgji_bgd:
ako ti zakljucis onda i svi drugi moraju da zakljuce isto? :)

da je samiulo bio bi bugarin bio bi kan a ne car ;)
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Unbelievable "macedonian" illiteracy! The title tsar was accepted by the Bulgarian ruler Simeon I the Great (894-927) as a Slavic imperial title with Roman etymological origin and after his reign it remained the traditional Bulgarian monarchic title until 1946... The first tsar in world history was Bulgarian tsar Simeon I, and the last tsar in history was the Bulgarian tsar Simeon II, who, by the way, is still alive.
 
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Crni Bugarin:
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Unbelievable "macedonian" illiteracy! The title tsar was accepted by the Bulgarian ruler Simeon I the Great (894-927) as a Slavic imperial title with Roman etymological origin and after his reign it remained the traditional Bulgarian monarchic title until 1946... The first tsar in world history was Bulgarian tsar Simeon I, and the last tsar in history was the Bulgarian tsar Simeon II, who, by the way, is still alive.
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mr. TATAR look Urself in the mirror:
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percin ti se kanda malko uzyebao ;)

reci mi koji slovenski narod je za vladara imao kana:

rusi?
srbi?
poljaci?
cesi?
slovaci?
ukrajinci?
belorusi?
hrvati?
slovenci?
:dash::dash::dash::dash:
 
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gjorgji_bgd:
mr. TATAR look Urself in the mirror:
asparuh-for-web.jpg

percin ti se kanda malko uzyebao ;)

reci mi koji slovenski narod je za vladara imao kana:

rusi?
srbi?
poljaci?
cesi?
slovaci?
ukrajinci?
belorusi?
hrvati?
slovenci?
:dash::dash::dash::dash:
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Really unbelievable "macedonian" illiteracy! The answer is: all Slavic population, ruled by the Bulgarian rulers until 864, all Slavic population, ruled by the Avar khagans until the beginning of the 9 century, all Slavic population, ruled by the Khazar khagans between 7 and 10 centuries and so on... I am speaking of vast lands in the Balkans, Central and Eastern Europe.

P. s. By the way, it is indisputable fact that the title tsar was used for the first time by the Bulgarian rulers after 894. End of the story.
 
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Crni Bugarin:
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Really unbelievable "macedonian" illiteracy! The answer is: all Slavic population, ruled by the Bulgarian rulers until 864, all Slavic population, ruled by the Avar khagans until the beginning of the 9 century, all Slavic population, ruled by the Khazar khagans between 7 and 11 centuries and so on... I am speaking of vast lands in the Balkans, Central and Eastern Europe.
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pa batice odluci se... ili ste bugari il sloveni il avari? sta ste? mislim da je odgovor krajnje jednostavan: TATARI :)


"The Bulgars originally came from Central Asia during the 4th century, migrating into the North Caucasian steppe.[46][47][48][49] They were a Turkic people with some Iranian elements.[50][51] Between 377 and 453 they took part in the Hunnic raids on Central and Western Europe. After Attila's death in 453, and the subsequent disintegration of the Hunnic Empire, the Bulgar tribes dispersed mostly to the eastern and southeastern parts of Europe. In the late 7th century, some Bulgar tribes, led by Asparukh and others"

end of story....
 
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gjorgji_bgd:
pa batice odluci se... ili ste bugari il sloveni il avari? sta ste? mislim da je odgovor krajnje jednostavan: TATARI :)
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The Tatars arrived in Europe in the first half of the 13th century, several centuries after the Proto-Bulgarians. By the way, the state of tsar Samuel had some proto-bulgarian institutions, typical for the First Bulgarian Empire, for example ichirgu boils, kavkhans and so on. This is another proof that is was a genuine successor of the First Bulgarian Empire.
 
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Crni Bugarin:
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The Tatars arrived in Europe in the first half of the 13th century, several centuries after the Proto-Bulgarians. By the way, the state of tsar Samuel had some proto-bulgarian institutions, typical for the First Bulgarian Empire, for example ichirgu boils, kahkhans and so on. This is another proof that is was a genuine successor of the First Bulgarian Empire.
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"The Bulgars originally came from Central Asia during the 4th century, migrating into the North Caucasian steppe.[46][47][48][49] They were a Turkic people with some Iranian elements.[50][51] Between 377 and 453 they took part in the Hunnic raids on Central and Western Europe. After Attila's death in 453, and the subsequent disintegration of the Hunnic Empire, the Bulgar tribes dispersed mostly to the eastern and southeastern parts of Europe. In the late 7th century, some Bulgar tribes, led by Asparukh and others"
 
gjorgji_bgd:
"The Bulgars originally came from Central Asia during the 4th century, migrating into the North Caucasian steppe.[46][47][48][49] They were a Turkic people with some Iranian elements.[50][51] Between 377 and 453 they took part in the Hunnic raids on Central and Western Europe. After Attila's death in 453, and the subsequent disintegration of the Hunnic Empire, the Bulgar tribes dispersed mostly to the eastern and southeastern parts of Europe. In the late 7th century, some Bulgar tribes, led by Asparukh and others"
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:hahaha:

Encyclopaedia Britannica:

Bulgar

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/84067/Bulgar

Note the following two sentences:

"In this period Bulgaria became a cultural center of eastern Europe, especially famous for its literary schools of Preslav (now Veliki Preslav) and Ohrid [ha-ha-ha]."

"In 1018 Bulgaria [ha-ha-ha] was incorporated into the Byzantine Empire."
 
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