Ateističke mudrosti

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@sale@:
морате бити неуморни:D
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Sale, šta bi sa mojom molbom, evo Bokystamy je već pronašao nešto zanimljivo.... :)

Evo jedna od mojih omiljenih, od jednog izuzetnog čoveka - Georgea Carlina. Ko ima 1% smisla za humor, ne može da se ne nasmeje njegovim zezancijama.

Religion easily has the best bullshit story of all time. Think about it. Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money.

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BOKYSTAMY:
Ajde prestani da bljujes po ekranu:mrgreen:
Pa nisam ja ovo rekao:eek:
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Hoces da kazes da si citirao onakobezveze i kao vernik se ne slazes sa tim? ;) Ajde ne vrdaj sada,smesno je.
Tvrdnja da su ateisti nemoralni jer nema boga koji ih plasi pa samim tim odvraca od zla je toliko besmislena,neinteligentna da ne kazem glupa da stvarno ne mogu da verujem da je Dusko Radovic to napisao.
Doduse,imao je on jos bisera,ali dobro.
Moral je u coveku,ne u Crkvi,moralni ljudi i bez cike odozgo znaju da razlikuju dobro od loseg.
 
>NiNa<:
Hoces da kazes da si citirao onakobezveze i kao vernik se ne slazes sa tim? ;) Ajde ne vrdaj sada,smesno je.
Tvrdnja da su ateisti nemoralni jer nema boga koji ih plasi pa samim tim odvraca od zla je toliko besmislena,neinteligentna da ne kazem glupa da stvarno ne mogu da verujem da je Dusko Radovic to napisao.
Doduse,imao je on jos bisera,ali dobro.
Moral je u coveku,ne u Crkvi,moralni ljudi i bez cike odozgo znaju da razlikuju dobro od loseg.
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Ne slazem se sa time sto ti kazes, jer zaista ima ateista koji su za primer mnogim nazovi Hriscanima.
No, vratimo se izrekama.:)
 
Religion easily has the best bullshit story of all time. Think about it. Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money.

:worth:

Obozavam ovog coveka i ovaj klip :D
 
>NiNa<:
Religion easily has the best bullshit story of all time. Think about it. Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money.

:worth:

Obozavam ovog coveka i ovaj klip :D
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U mržnji je strah.
Niče
 
Sizif:
Sale, šta bi sa mojom molbom, evo Bokystamy je već pronašao nešto zanimljivo.... :)

Evo jedna od mojih omiljenih, od jednog izuzetnog čoveka - Georgea Carlina. Ko ima 1% smisla za humor, ne može da se ne nasmeje njegovim zezancijama.

Religion easily has the best bullshit story of all time. Think about it. Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money.

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може ли овако нешто
буди смреман да увек говориш истину и зли људи ће те избегавати.
 
Sizif:
Ernest Hemingvej
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Tog nedeljnog jutra, 2. jula, oko sedam sati, Hemingvej je u pižami sišao u podrum svoje kuće gde je njegova žena sakrila oružje. Uzeo je pušku kalibra 12, ponovo se popeo u hol, stavio u cev dva metka i pucao u usta. Ovaj bogati, slavni i lepi pisac, dobitnik Nobelove nagrade za književnost, oduzeo je sebi život, kao što je to učinio i njegov otac, ne ostavivši za sobom nijednog napisanog retka kojim bi objasnio ovaj čin.
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зна ли се зашто?
а тако је имао добре поруке.
 
Molim da ne spamujete temu, i Savle je počinio samoubistvo, pa nikom ništa.

Dakle, ovo je tema za izreke i citate od strane slavnih ateista, i molim vas da se držite toga, a raspravu svedite na minimum.
 
@sale@:
зна ли се зашто?
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Isto kao njegov otac, Ernest nije podnosio nekontrolu svog tela i draze mu je bilo da umre sa poptunom kontrolom nad svojim telom nego da bude na milosti drugih.

Evo malo citata, nadam se da nisu kopije, ako jesu delete molim.

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
Edward Gibbon

Religion is based ... mainly upon fear ... fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand . . . . My own view on religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human race.
Bertrand Russell

An atheist doesn't have to be someone who thinks he has a proof that there can't be a god. He only has to be someone who believes that the evidence on the God question is at a similar level to the evidence on the werewolf question.
John McCarthy
 
а шта ћемо са Епикуром и његовим материјалистичким погледом "узми све што ти живот пружа", мада се он није тако понашао, чак шта више је и опомињао људе који су били материјалистички настројени.
значи учио је људе о материјализму, а сам се тога није придржавао.:confused:
 
@sale@:
а шта ћемо са Епикуром и његовим материјалистичким погледом "узми све што ти живот пружа", мада се он није тако понашао, чак шта више је и опомињао људе који су били материјалистички настројени.
значи учио је људе о материјализму, а сам се тога није придржавао.:confused:
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Malo me je sramota shto citiram Wikipediju al' ajde , nadam se da ce te mi oprostiti :rumenko: :
Epicureanism is a system of philosophy based upon the teachings of Epicurus (c. 341–c. 270 BCE), founded around 307 BCE. Epicurus was an atomic materialist, following in the steps of Democritus. His materialism led him to a general attack on superstition and divine intervention. Following Aristippus—about whom very little is known—Epicurus believed that the greatest good was to seek modest pleasures in order to attain a state of tranquility and freedom from fear (ataraxia) as well as absence of bodily pain (aponia) through knowledge of the workings of the world and the limits of our desires. The combination of these two states is supposed to constitute happiness in its highest form. Although Epicureanism is a form of hedonism, insofar as it declares pleasure as the sole intrinsic good, its conception of absence of pain as the greatest pleasure and its advocacy of a simple life make it different from "hedonism" as it is commonly understood.

In the Epicurean view, the highest pleasure (tranquility and freedom from fear) was obtained by knowledge, friendship, and living a virtuous and temperate life. He lauded the enjoyment of simple pleasures, by which he meant abstaining from bodily desires, such as sex and appetites, verging on asceticism. He argued that when eating, one should not eat too richly, for it could lead to dissatisfaction later, such as the grim realization that one could not afford such delicacies in the future. Likewise, sex could lead to increased lust and dissatisfaction with the sexual partner. Epicurus did not articulate a broad system of social ethics that has survived.
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Bio je chudan materijalista , i njegove ideje mi se na prvi pogled svidjaju.
Kasnije se za Epikureja vezivala predrasuda da je njegovo uchenje obichni materijalizam. (ajde josh malo da uposlim Wikipediju )
In modern popular usage, an epicure is a connoisseur of the arts of life and the refinements of sensual pleasures; epicureanism implies a love or knowledgeable enjoyment especially of good food and drink.

This can be attributed to a misunderstanding of the Epicurean doctrine, as promulgated by Christian polemicists. Because Epicureanism posits that pleasure is the ultimate good (telos), it is commonly misunderstood as a doctrine that advocates the partaking in fleeting pleasures such as constant partying, sexual excess and decadent food. This is not the case. Epicurus regarded ataraxia (tranquility, freedom from fear) and aponia (absence of pain) as the height of happiness. He also considered prudence an important virtue and perceived excess and overindulgence to be contrary to the attainment of ataraxia and aponia.
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P.S: Izvini Sizife na offtopicu :rumenko: da se ne ljutish , evo nekoliko citata Epikura ( al su neke na Engleskom):


Luxurious food and drinks, in no way protect you from harm. Wealth beyond what is natural, is no more use than an overflowing container. Real value is not generated by theaters, and baths, perfumes or ointments, but by philosophy.

Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;
What is good is easy to get, and
What is terrible is easy to endure.

Nije moguće živjeti ugodan život ako se ne živi mudro, časno i pravedno, i nije moguće živjeti mudro, časno i pravedno, ako se ne živi ugodno.

Niti jedno zadovoljstvo nije zlo, ali stvari koje čine određena zadovoljstva nameću neprilike mnogo puta veće od samih zadovoljstava
 
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