Албанци нису Илири

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Da,da... Poznato je da se hvale da menjaju veru kako bi ocuvali naciju...

Evo jos nesto... Kavkaski Albanci - lazni Iliri - grupa autora

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AWWL3P4X

Ne znam zasto si dosao i ovde da trujes temu,imas vec 2-3 teme koje su rezervisane samo za tebe

Gde vide da ja sam truio temu ??
Balkan=Illyrija taj mi bese prvi post ..
Kavkaz nisam ja poceo .

 

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Gde vide da ja sam truio temu ??
Balkan=Illyrija taj mi bese prvi post ..
Kavkaz nisam ja poceo .

Imas moje izvinjenje,ovo je bilo namenjeno za temu - ko je izmislio Balkan.
Znati priznati gresku je osobina plemenitih ljudi.

Evo jos nesto o nama dragoj temi...

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List of Valide Sultans
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Below is a list of the Valide Sultans of the Ottoman Empire:

1324: Mal Hatun - Wife of Osman I, mother of Orhan I. She was possibly the daughter of Sheik Edebali.
1359: Nilüfer Hatun - Wife of Orhan I, mother of Murad I. She was possibly of Persian descent.[1][2][3]
1389: Gulcicek Hatun (or Gülçiçek Hatun) - Wife of Murad I, mother of Bayezid I. She was an ethnic Greek.
1403: Devlet Hatun (or Devlet Shah Hatun) - Wife of Bayezid I, mother of Mehmed I. She was the daughter of Yakub Shah of Germiyan, according to some sources she was daughter of Serbian noble Prince Lazar, married Bayezid I afther the battle of Kosovo 1389. Her christian name was Mara or Olivera.
1421: Emine Hatun or Sitti Mukrime Hatun - The third wife of Mehmed I, mother of Murad II. She was the daughter of Suleyman Bey, ruler of Dirkadiroglu state, and her marriage served as an alliance between the Ottomans and this buffer state.
1432: Hüma Hatun - Wife of Murad II, mother of Mehmed II. She was born in Devrekani county of Kastamonu province, daughter of Abd'Allah of Hum. (Huma means "a girl/woman from Hum")
1481: Amina Gul-Bahar (also known as Gulbahār Khātun or Gulbahar Hatun) - Wife of Mehmed II, mother of Bayezid II. She was an ethnic Greek of noble birth from the village of Douvera, Trabzon.
1512: Ayşe Hatun - Wife of Bayezid II, mother of Selim I. She was an ethnic Greek convert to Islam.
1520: Ayşe Hafsa Sultan (or Hafsa Hatun Sultan) - Wife of Selim I, mother of Suleiman I. She was most probably of Georgian descent.
1558: Hürrem Sultan - Wife of Suleiman I, mother of Selim II. Her original name was Roxelana Lisowska, and she was of Ruthenian descent.
1574: Nurbanu Sultan - Wife of Selim II, mother of Murad III. She was born Cecilia Venier-Baffo, and was of noble Venetian birth.
1594: Safiye Sultan - Wife of Murad III, mother of Mehmed III. She was born Sofia Baffo, and like her predecessor (and cousin), was of noble Venetian birth.
1603: Handan Sultan - Wife of Mehmed III, mother of Ahmed I and Mustafa I. She was an ethnic Greek, originally named Helena or Jelena.
1617: Mahfiruze Hatice Sultan - Wife of Ahmed I, mother of Osman II. She was an ethnic Serb, originally named Maria.
1623: Kösem Sultan (also known as Mahpeyker) - Another wife of Ahmed I, mother of Murad IV and Ibrahim I. Of Greek descent, she was originally named Anastasia.
1648: Turhan Hatice - Wife of Ibrahim I, mother of Mehmed IV. She was of Ruthenian descent.
1687: Saliha Dilashub (or Saliha Dilaşub) - Another wife of Ibrahim I, mother of Suleiman II. She was of Serbian descent.
1691: Khadija Muazzez - Yet another wife of Ibrahim I, mother of Ahmed II. She was of Polish Jewish descent.
1695: Mah-Para Ummatullah Rabia Gül-Nush (wife of Mehmed IV, mother of Mustafa II and Ahmed III. Originally named Evemia, she was from Crete, and was of Venetian descent.
1730: Saliha Sabkati - Wife of Mustafa II, mother of Mahmud I. She was Serbian descent.
1754: Shehsuvar - Another wife of Mustafa II, mother of Osman III. She was of Serbian descent.
1757: Amina Mihr-i Shah - Wife of Ahmed III, mother of Mustafa III. She was of Georgian descent.
1774: Rabia Sharmi - Wife of Ahmed III, mother of Abdul Hamid I. She was of Georgian descent.
1789: Mihr-i shah - Wife of Mustafa III, mother of Selim III. She was of Georgian descent.
1807: Ayse Seniyeperver (also known as Aisha Sina Parvar or Ayse Sine-perver) - Wife of Abdul Hamid I, mother of Mustafa IV. She was of Bulgarian descent.
1808: Naksh-i-Dil Haseki - Another wife of Abdul Hamid I, mother of Mahmud II. (There have been speculations that she was a cousin of Napoleon's wife Josephine[4]. See Aimée du Buc de Rivéry)
1839: Bezmiâlem (or Bazim-i Alam) - The first wife of Mahmud II, mother of Abdülmecid I. She was of Russian Jewish[5] or Georgian Jewish descent[6]
1861: Pertevniyal - Wife of Mahmud II, mother of Abdülaziz. She was of Circassian descent.
1876: Shevkefza - Wife of Abdülmecid I, mother of Murad V.[7] She was of Georgian descent.
1876: Tirimüjgan - Wife of Abdülmecid I, biological mother of Abdul Hamid II. She was of Armenian descent.
1876: Rahime Perestu - Wife of Abdülmecid I, adoptive mother of Abdul Hamid II)[8]. She was of Circassian descent.
1909: Gülcemal - Wife of Abdülmecid I, mother of Mehmed V. She was of Circassian descent.
1918: Gülüstü - Wife of Abdülmecid I, mother of Mehmed VI. She was of Circassian descent.


ko vidi neku albanku ovde,

 

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List of Valide Sultans
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Below is a list of the Valide Sultans of the Ottoman Empire:

1324: Mal Hatun - Wife of Osman I, mother of Orhan I. She was possibly the daughter of Sheik Edebali.
1359: Nilüfer Hatun - Wife of Orhan I, mother of Murad I. She was possibly of Persian descent.[1][2][3]
1389: Gulcicek Hatun (or Gülçiçek Hatun) - Wife of Murad I, mother of Bayezid I. She was an ethnic Greek.
1403: Devlet Hatun (or Devlet Shah Hatun) - Wife of Bayezid I, mother of Mehmed I. She was the daughter of Yakub Shah of Germiyan, according to some sources she was daughter of Serbian noble Prince Lazar, married Bayezid I afther the battle of Kosovo 1389. Her christian name was Mara or Olivera.
1421: Emine Hatun or Sitti Mukrime Hatun - The third wife of Mehmed I, mother of Murad II. She was the daughter of Suleyman Bey, ruler of Dirkadiroglu state, and her marriage served as an alliance between the Ottomans and this buffer state.
1432: Hüma Hatun - Wife of Murad II, mother of Mehmed II. She was born in Devrekani county of Kastamonu province, daughter of Abd'Allah of Hum. (Huma means "a girl/woman from Hum")
1481: Amina Gul-Bahar (also known as Gulbahār Khātun or Gulbahar Hatun) - Wife of Mehmed II, mother of Bayezid II. She was an ethnic Greek of noble birth from the village of Douvera, Trabzon.
1512: Ayşe Hatun - Wife of Bayezid II, mother of Selim I. She was an ethnic Greek convert to Islam.
1520: Ayşe Hafsa Sultan (or Hafsa Hatun Sultan) - Wife of Selim I, mother of Suleiman I. She was most probably of Georgian descent.
1558: Hürrem Sultan - Wife of Suleiman I, mother of Selim II. Her original name was Roxelana Lisowska, and she was of Ruthenian descent.
1574: Nurbanu Sultan - Wife of Selim II, mother of Murad III. She was born Cecilia Venier-Baffo, and was of noble Venetian birth.
1594: Safiye Sultan - Wife of Murad III, mother of Mehmed III. She was born Sofia Baffo, and like her predecessor (and cousin), was of noble Venetian birth.
1603: Handan Sultan - Wife of Mehmed III, mother of Ahmed I and Mustafa I. She was an ethnic Greek, originally named Helena or Jelena.
1617: Mahfiruze Hatice Sultan - Wife of Ahmed I, mother of Osman II. She was an ethnic Serb, originally named Maria.
1623: Kösem Sultan (also known as Mahpeyker) - Another wife of Ahmed I, mother of Murad IV and Ibrahim I. Of Greek descent, she was originally named Anastasia.
1648: Turhan Hatice - Wife of Ibrahim I, mother of Mehmed IV. She was of Ruthenian descent.
1687: Saliha Dilashub (or Saliha Dilaşub) - Another wife of Ibrahim I, mother of Suleiman II. She was of Serbian descent.
1691: Khadija Muazzez - Yet another wife of Ibrahim I, mother of Ahmed II. She was of Polish Jewish descent.
1695: Mah-Para Ummatullah Rabia Gül-Nush (wife of Mehmed IV, mother of Mustafa II and Ahmed III. Originally named Evemia, she was from Crete, and was of Venetian descent.
1730: Saliha Sabkati - Wife of Mustafa II, mother of Mahmud I. She was Serbian descent.
1754: Shehsuvar - Another wife of Mustafa II, mother of Osman III. She was of Serbian descent.
1757: Amina Mihr-i Shah - Wife of Ahmed III, mother of Mustafa III. She was of Georgian descent.
1774: Rabia Sharmi - Wife of Ahmed III, mother of Abdul Hamid I. She was of Georgian descent.
1789: Mihr-i shah - Wife of Mustafa III, mother of Selim III. She was of Georgian descent.
1807: Ayse Seniyeperver (also known as Aisha Sina Parvar or Ayse Sine-perver) - Wife of Abdul Hamid I, mother of Mustafa IV. She was of Bulgarian descent.
1808: Naksh-i-Dil Haseki - Another wife of Abdul Hamid I, mother of Mahmud II. (There have been speculations that she was a cousin of Napoleon's wife Josephine[4]. See Aimée du Buc de Rivéry)
1839: Bezmiâlem (or Bazim-i Alam) - The first wife of Mahmud II, mother of Abdülmecid I. She was of Russian Jewish[5] or Georgian Jewish descent[6]
1861: Pertevniyal - Wife of Mahmud II, mother of Abdülaziz. She was of Circassian descent.
1876: Shevkefza - Wife of Abdülmecid I, mother of Murad V.[7] She was of Georgian descent.
1876: Tirimüjgan - Wife of Abdülmecid I, biological mother of Abdul Hamid II. She was of Armenian descent.
1876: Rahime Perestu - Wife of Abdülmecid I, adoptive mother of Abdul Hamid II)[8]. She was of Circassian descent.
1909: Gülcemal - Wife of Abdülmecid I, mother of Mehmed V. She was of Circassian descent.
1918: Gülüstü - Wife of Abdülmecid I, mother of Mehmed VI. She was of Circassian descent.


ko vidi neku albanku ovde,

I sta je poenta tvog pisanija ? To sam sve vec znao..

 

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What is possibly the earliest written reference to the Albanians is that to be found in an old Bulgarian text compiled around the beginning of the eleventh century. It was discovered in a Serbian manuscript dated 1628 and was first published in 1934 by Radoslav Grujic. This fragment of a legend from the time of Tsar Samuel endeavours, in a catechismal 'question and answer' form, to explain the origins of peoples and languages. It divides the world into seventy-two languages and three religious categories: Orthodox, half-believers (i.e. non-Orthodox Christians) and non-believers. The Albanians find their place among the nations of half-believers. If we accept the dating of Grujic, which is based primarily upon the contents of the text as a whole, this would be the earliest written document referring to the Albanians as a people or language group.

It can be seen that there are various languages on earth. Of them, there are five Orthodox languages: Bulgarian, Greek, Syrian (likely mistaken for Serbian), Iberian (Georgian) and Russian. Three of these have Orthodox alphabets: Greek, Bulgarian and Iberian. There are twelve languages of half-believers: Alamanians, Franks, Magyars (Hungarians), Indians, Jacobites, Armenians, Saxons, Lechs (Poles), Arbanasi (Albanians), Croatians, Hizi, Germans.[26]

The Albanians appear in the historical record in Byzantine sources of the late 11th century. At this point, they are already fully Christianized. Very little evidence of pre-Christian Albanian culture survives, and Albanian mythology and folklore as it presents itself is notoriously syncretized from various sources, showing in particular Greek influence.[27]

Regarding the classification of the Albanian language, it forms a separate branch of Indo-European, belonging to the Satem[28] group, and its late attestation, the first records dating to the 15th century, makes it difficult for historical linguistics to make confident statements on its genesis.

 

[Andjela]

Posto se Albanci pozivaju na razne "dokaze" da su direktni potomci Ilira igri je i njihova narodna nosnja i "kalimero kapica".
Naidjoh na jednu zanimljivu slicicu, gde kolumbijski Indijanci nose slicnu takvu "kalimero kapicu", pa me zanima , da nam kazu, da li su i ti kolumbijski Indijaci, ustvari Albanci, a da to nisu znali....
http://channel.nationalgeographic.c...6xx/364x/3646_lateofw_columbia-9_04700300.jpg

 

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Posto se Albanci pozivaju na razne "dokaze" da su direktni potomci Ilira igri je i njihova narodna nosnja i "kalimero kapica".
Naidjoh na jednu zanimljivu slicicu, gde kolumbijski Indijanci nose slicnu takvu "kalimero kapicu", pa me zanima , da nam kazu, da li su i ti kolumbijski Indijaci, ustvari Albanci, a da to nisu znali....
http://channel.nationalgeographic.c...6xx/364x/3646_lateofw_columbia-9_04700300.jpg

Ko zna.. Mozda je u pitanju izgubljeno siptarsko pleme
kalimero kapice

Ova teorija je tako razbucana i objasnjena da nemamo vise sta da pricamo,mada i kad im dokazes oni ce da sanjaju o Teuti i zvezdama Ilirskih kraljeva...

 

[Alb1nl]

Ko zna.. Mozda je u pitanju izgubljeno siptarsko pleme
kalimero kapice

Ova teorija je tako razbucana i objasnjena da nemamo vise sta da pricamo,mada i kad im dokazes oni ce da sanjaju o Teuti i zvezdama Ilirskih kraljeva...

O boze mili, pa vi Srbi stvarno verujete u sta to ovde sve pisete o Ilirima
A sta ste dokazali do sada? U Srpske teorije o Kaukazu (vase ognjiste) i knjige koje su Srpski pseudoistoricari napisali specijalno za "breinwash" vaseg naroda. Pa, zar vama nikad nije dosta. Vasa obsesija o Albancima i njihovoj Istoriji je vise nego stetna za vas razum i zdravlje. Sve vase ideje, teorije, bajke ce samo vama skoditi. Istorija Sveta ne moze bas tek tako da se menja. U svim ozbiljnim knjigama i skolama pise da su Albanci potomci Ilira a Srbi su dosljaci iz Karpata koji su dovedeni od Heraklija (proklet bio). Niko ama bas niko van granica vaseg pasaluka nece da veruje vease teorije, niti cita vase knjige (made in Serbia). Sto ne gledate sebe u ogledalo i mislite: 'Hebote, da li je ove neki Ali iz Turske ili sam ja Milorad sa Sumadije", pa tek onda mozete da ser... o Albancima, njihovoj Istoriji ili fizionomije.
Ajt sad da vidim ko ce prvi poceti da se buni i da se zali da ja "vredjam" kod velike Keve foruma,

 

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COLOR="Red"][/COLOR]List of Valide Sultans
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Below is a list of the Valide Sultans of the Ottoman Empire:

1324: Mal Hatun - Wife of Osman I, mother of Orhan I. She was possibly the daughter of Sheik Edebali.
1359: Nilüfer Hatun - Wife of Orhan I, mother of Murad I. She was possibly of Persian descent.[1][2][3]
1389: Gulcicek Hatun (or Gülçiçek Hatun) - Wife of Murad I, mother of Bayezid I. She was an ethnic Greek.
1403: Devlet Hatun (or Devlet Shah Hatun) - Wife of Bayezid I, mother of Mehmed I. She was the daughter of Yakub Shah of Germiyan, according to some sources she was daughter of Serbian noble Prince Lazar, married Bayezid I afther the battle of Kosovo 1389. Her christian name was Mara or Olivera.
1421: Emine Hatun or Sitti Mukrime Hatun - The third wife of Mehmed I, mother of Murad II. She was the daughter of Suleyman Bey, ruler of Dirkadiroglu state, and her marriage served as an alliance between the Ottomans and this buffer state.
1432: Hüma Hatun - Wife of Murad II, mother of Mehmed II. She was born in Devrekani county of Kastamonu province, daughter of Abd'Allah of Hum. (Huma means "a girl/woman from Hum")
1481: Amina Gul-Bahar (also known as Gulbahār Khātun or Gulbahar Hatun) - Wife of Mehmed II, mother of Bayezid II. She was an ethnic Greek of noble birth from the village of Douvera, Trabzon.
1512: Ayşe Hatun - Wife of Bayezid II, mother of Selim I. She was an ethnic Greek convert to Islam.
1520: Ayşe Hafsa Sultan (or Hafsa Hatun Sultan) - Wife of Selim I, mother of Suleiman I. She was most probably of Georgian descent.
1558: Hürrem Sultan - Wife of Suleiman I, mother of Selim II. Her original name was Roxelana Lisowska, and she was of Ruthenian descent.
1574: Nurbanu Sultan - Wife of Selim II, mother of Murad III. She was born Cecilia Venier-Baffo, and was of noble Venetian birth.
1594: Safiye Sultan - Wife of Murad III, mother of Mehmed III. She was born Sofia Baffo, and like her predecessor (and cousin), was of noble Venetian birth.
1603: Handan Sultan - Wife of Mehmed III, mother of Ahmed I and Mustafa I. She was an ethnic Greek, originally named Helena or Jelena.
1617: Mahfiruze Hatice Sultan - Wife of Ahmed I, mother of Osman II. She was an ethnic Serb, originally named Maria.
1623: Kösem Sultan (also known as Mahpeyker) - Another wife of Ahmed I, mother of Murad IV and Ibrahim I. Of Greek descent, she was originally named Anastasia.
1648: Turhan Hatice - Wife of Ibrahim I, mother of Mehmed IV. She was of Ruthenian descent.
1687: Saliha Dilashub (or Saliha Dilaşub) - Another wife of Ibrahim I, mother of Suleiman II. She was of Serbian descent.
1691: Khadija Muazzez - Yet another wife of Ibrahim I, mother of Ahmed II. She was of Polish Jewish descent.
1695: Mah-Para Ummatullah Rabia Gül-Nush (wife of Mehmed IV, mother of Mustafa II and Ahmed III. Originally named Evemia, she was from Crete, and was of Venetian descent.
1730: Saliha Sabkati - Wife of Mustafa II, mother of Mahmud I. She was Serbian descent.
1754: Shehsuvar - Another wife of Mustafa II, mother of Osman III. She was of Serbian descent.
1757: Amina Mihr-i Shah - Wife of Ahmed III, mother of Mustafa III. She was of Georgian descent.
1774: Rabia Sharmi - Wife of Ahmed III, mother of Abdul Hamid I. She was of Georgian descent.
1789: Mihr-i shah - Wife of Mustafa III, mother of Selim III. She was of Georgian descent.
1807: Ayse Seniyeperver (also known as Aisha Sina Parvar or Ayse Sine-perver) - Wife of Abdul Hamid I, mother of Mustafa IV. She was of Bulgarian descent.
1808: Naksh-i-Dil Haseki - Another wife of Abdul Hamid I, mother of Mahmud II. (There have been speculations that she was a cousin of Napoleon's wife Josephine[4]. See Aimée du Buc de Rivéry)
1839: Bezmiâlem (or Bazim-i Alam) - The first wife of Mahmud II, mother of Abdülmecid I. She was of Russian Jewish[5] or Georgian Jewish descent[6]
1861: Pertevniyal - Wife of Mahmud II, mother of Abdülaziz. She was of Circassian descent.
1876: Shevkefza - Wife of Abdülmecid I, mother of Murad V.[7] She was of Georgian descent.
1876: Tirimüjgan - Wife of Abdülmecid I, biological mother of Abdul Hamid II. She was of Armenian descent.
1876: Rahime Perestu - Wife of Abdülmecid I, adoptive mother of Abdul Hamid II)[8]. She was of Circassian descent.
1909: Gülcemal - Wife of Abdülmecid I, mother of Mehmed V. She was of Circassian descent.
1918: Gülüstü - Wife of Abdülmecid I, mother of Mehmed VI. She was of Circassian descent.

ko vidi neku albanku ovde,

То је права ствар, захваљујем се Иљирјан дриму, ово доказује само једну ствар, а то је да су Албанци од Турака сматрани Арнаутима, то јест Турцима. Арнауте треба тражити управо међу Черкезима а неким мањим делом и међу Арапима , с обзиром на повезаност и генетско мешање мамелука.

 

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То је права ствар, захваљујем се Иљирјан дриму, ово доказује само једну ствар, а то је да су Албанци од Турака сматрани Арнаутима, то јест Турцима. Арнауте треба тражити управо међу Черкезима а неким мањим делом и међу Арапима , с обзиром на повезаност и генетско мешање мамелука.

Izgleda da si nasao svoje Ilire,a snu ?

Bice dobro da skoknes do Cerkeza i vidis ono malo sta je ostalo od starih Albosa

 

[Andjela]

То је права ствар, захваљујем се Иљирјан дриму, ово доказује само једну ствар, а то је да су Албанци од Турака сматрани Арнаутима, то јест Турцима. Арнауте треба тражити управо међу Черкезима а неким мањим делом и међу Арапима , с обзиром на повезаност и генетско мешање мамелука.

Pa ako koza laze, rog ne laze. Ako svi svetski naucnici koji tvrde da su Srbi starosedeoci (a ima ih podosta), lazu i ako arheologija, genetika i antropologija lazu, onda valjda ono sto vidimo nije laz; oci ne lazu koliko su slicne face ovih tamo sa Kavkaza, Cerkezi, Cecenci...

 

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O boze mili, pa vi Srbi stvarno verujete u sta to ovde sve pisete o Ilirima
A sta ste dokazali do sada? U Srpske teorije o Kaukazu (vase ognjiste) i knjige koje su Srpski pseudoistoricari napisali specijalno za "breinwash" vaseg naroda. Pa, zar vama nikad nije dosta. Vasa obsesija o Albancima i njihovoj Istoriji je vise nego stetna za vas razum i zdravlje. Sve vase ideje, teorije, bajke ce samo vama skoditi. Istorija Sveta ne moze bas tek tako da se menja. U svim ozbiljnim knjigama i skolama pise da su Albanci potomci Ilira a Srbi su dosljaci iz Karpata koji su dovedeni od Heraklija (proklet bio). Niko ama bas niko van granica vaseg pasaluka nece da veruje vease teorije, niti cita vase knjige (made in Serbia). Sto ne gledate sebe u ogledalo i mislite: 'Hebote, da li je ove neki Ali iz Turske ili sam ja Milorad sa Sumadije", pa tek onda mozete da ser... o Albancima, njihovoj Istoriji ili fizionomije.
Ajt sad da vidim ko ce prvi poceti da se buni i da se zali da ja "vredjam" kod velike Keve foruma,

Vidis ti svi "pseudoistoricari" su akameska elita Balkana,doktori i profesori.
Tako su vas lepo spustili,da niko se nije usudio da da neki kontra-argument..

Ne,Srbi nisu opsednuti Siptarima,samo su opsednuti lopovima i falsifikatorima...

Te ozbiljne skole padaju ko pruce,a tako ce i vasa teorijca...
Pa i srpski pasaluk je veci od prve Aljbanske drzavice...

Bas ste veliki Iliri,ni drzavu niste imali do pre 100 godina...

Oces da nam objasnis par jednostavnih stvar - Sta je sa vasim alfabetom - imao si prilike da ga vidis gore,original Kavkaski,Gruzijski...

Sta cemo sa prvim pomenom Siptara - u 11. veku (tada i dolazite na Balkan) -posto su Arapi pukli po Italiji vi dodjoste na Balkan gde se bili profesionalni stocari...

Sta cemo sa Turskom reci - Arnaut,kako su vas oznacavali.. - prevod - oni koji se nisu vratili...

Vasa fizionomoija je original Kavkaska,a uzalud ste pokusavali da dokazete da su Iliri bili nizeg rasta i tamne puti...

Ja shvatam da je tebi u glavi da je ovo srpska propaganda,ali da imas iole objektivnosti shvatio bi da kada je neka drzava u usponu i svojata tudje teritorije,obavezno falsifikuje istoriju i pravi nove teorije...

 

[Andjela]

O boze mili, pa vi Srbi stvarno verujete u sta to ovde sve pisete o Ilirima
A sta ste dokazali do sada? U Srpske teorije o Kaukazu (vase ognjiste) i knjige koje su Srpski pseudoistoricari napisali specijalno za "breinwash" vaseg naroda. Pa, zar vama nikad nije dosta. Vasa obsesija o Albancima i njihovoj Istoriji je vise nego stetna za vas razum i zdravlje. Sve vase ideje, teorije, bajke ce samo vama skoditi. Istorija Sveta ne moze bas tek tako da se menja. U svim ozbiljnim knjigama i skolama pise da su Albanci potomci Ilira a Srbi su dosljaci iz Karpata koji su dovedeni od Heraklija (proklet bio). Niko ama bas niko van granica vaseg pasaluka nece da veruje vease teorije, niti cita vase knjige (made in Serbia). Sto ne gledate sebe u ogledalo i mislite: 'Hebote, da li je ove neki Ali iz Turske ili sam ja Milorad sa Sumadije", pa tek onda mozete da ser... o Albancima, njihovoj Istoriji ili fizionomije.
Ajt sad da vidim ko ce prvi poceti da se buni i da se zali da ja "vredjam" kod velike Keve foruma,

U svetskim knjigama iz kojih sam ja ovde ucila u EU, ne pise da ste Iliri, vec pise da postoje razne TEZE I HIPOTEZE o poreklu i da nista od toga NIJE DOKAZANO!
Kad se budu sabrali 2 i 2, nece ni ona saka korumpiranih, koji su vasi lobisti sa lovom od droge, belog roblja i srpskih organa platili, biti na strani vase propagande i opsesije, da vam pripada ceo Balkan. Tako da dragi gospodine, Vi mozete pisati i pisati neke nebuloze i falsifikovati i krasti istoriju, koliko god hocete, jer i onako papiri trpe sve...

 

[Direkt]

Ma lupaju,fora sto nemaju svoju nacionalnu svest
Nemaju svoju proslost.
Nemaju ni svoju drzavu.
Albanci su u stvari razna plemena koja su se mesala,sad se ne zna ko je ko,mogu samo po plemenima da se dele,i razlikuju koja su,vidim i sad zaboravili.
Sto znaci,zaboravili su i svoj identitet..
Mozda ga nisu ni imali O.o
Kakvi bre Iliri. :O

 

[Alb1nl]

Vidis ti svi "pseudoistoricari" su akameska elita Balkana,doktori i profesori.
Tako su vas lepo spustili,da niko se nije usudio da da neki kontra-argument..

Ne,Srbi nisu opsednuti Siptarima,samo su opsednuti lopovima i falsifikatorima...

Te ozbiljne skole padaju ko pruce,a tako ce i vasa teorijca...
Pa i srpski pasaluk je veci od prve Aljbanske drzavice...

Bas ste veliki Iliri,ni drzavu niste imali do pre 100 godina...

Oces da nam objasnis par jednostavnih stvar - Sta je sa vasim alfabetom - imao si prilike da ga vidis gore,original Kavkaski,Gruzijski...

Sta cemo sa prvim pomenom Siptara - u 11. veku (tada i dolazite na Balkan) -posto su Arapi pukli po Italiji vi dodjoste na Balkan gde se bili profesionalni stocari...

Sta cemo sa Turskom reci - Arnaut,kako su vas oznacavali.. - prevod - oni koji se nisu vratili...

Vasa fizionomoija je original Kavkaska,a uzalud ste pokusavali da dokazete da su Iliri bili nizeg rasta i tamne puti...

Ja shvatam da je tebi u glavi da je ovo srpska propaganda,ali da imas iole objektivnosti shvatio bi da kada je neka drzava u usponu i svojata tudje teritorije,obavezno falsifikuje istoriju i pravi nove teorije...

Ta elita je Srpska a ne Balkanska, a ti su sebe spustili, svi im se smeju i niko nece ni da trosi vreme zbog te ludnice ko je Ilir a ko Slaven.
Ako su Srbi opsednuti o falsifikatorima, onda nek pocinju od samog sebe. Taj pasalluk je bio vasa prva drzavica koji su vam poklonili vase gazde Turci.
Albanci su imali puno drzavica a nikad jednu jedinu. To je i slabost Albanaca za ujedinjenje. Jedni ko je mogo to da uradi je bio Milosevic i Srpska mrznja prema nama.
Albanci su uvjek koristli razlicite alfabete: Grcki, Latinski, Arapski a bilo je i pojedinaca koji su smislili nekeakva slova ali niko nije to nikad koristio osim neki pojedinaca u Elbasanu. Opet taj 11 vek. To jest istina u Vizantijskim kronikama, to je do sad prvi put da nas spominju.
Arnaut znaci: ' Oni koji se ne vracaju sa boja" ili sinonim za tvrdoglav. Albanci su bili poznati kao strogi i najzesci borci, pa zato i to ime, i sinonim. A prava istina je da se to preuzimalo od Arvanit (u Grckoj) i posto to lici na njihov izraz Arnaut-tvrdoglav ili oni koji se vracaju sa boja, i po vidjanju Albanaca u bojnom polju.
Nasa i Fizionomija drugih Europiana je poznata kao Kavkazoidna ili bolje reci Bela rasa. A te vase fore o nizom rastu i tamne boje ne pale vise osim kod Srba koji zele da nas tako gledaju. Gledaj malo okolo sebe u Srbiji kolko njih su tamni pa se vrati da to diskutujemo. I nemoj slucajno da skines slike Albanskih seljaka koji su tamni zbog rada po njivama.

 

[Lesandar]

To je i slabost Albanaca za ujedinjenje. Jedni ko je mogo to da uradi je bio Milosevic i Srpska mrznja prema nama.

Albanci su uvjek koristli razlicite alfabete: Grcki, Latinski, Arapski a bilo je i pojedinaca koji su smislili nekeakva slova ali niko nije to nikad koristio osim neki pojedinaca u Elbasanu. Opet taj 11 vek. To jest istina u Vizantijskim kronikama, to je do sad prvi put da nas spominju.

"In 19. century, some admirers of Albanians (from german ethnic stock) had find about 50 men, who was able to write..
But they write this Elbasan scripts (near to turkish runes and caucassian letters).."

Arnaut znaci: ' Oni koji se ne vracaju sa boja" ili sinonim za tvrdoglav. Albanci su bili poznati kao strogi i najzesci borci, pa zato i to ime, i sinonim. A prava istina je da se to preuzimalo od Arvanit (u Grckoj) i posto to lici na njihov izraz Arnaut-tvrdoglav ili oni koji se vracaju sa boja, i po vidjanju Albanaca u bojnom polju.
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На жалост , Евлија Челебија не спомиње никакав бој, а он је први записао име Арнаут и протумачио га својим, турским језиком, дакле они који се нису вратили у своју земљу, нешто као трајни исељеник.

Nasa i Fizionomija drugih Europiana je poznata kao Kavkazoidna ili bolje reci Bela rasa. A te vase fore o nizom rastu i tamne boje ne pale vise osim kod Srba koji zele da nas tako gledaju. Gledaj malo okolo sebe u Srbiji kolko njih su tamni pa se vrati da to diskutujemo. I nemoj slucajno da skines slike Albanskih seljaka koji su tamni zbog rada po njivama.

Кавказоид је Америчка, потпуно ненаучна измишљотина која одваја црнце од светлијих људи, ради унутрашњих потреба полицијске администрације. У Кавказоиде спадају и Арапи.

I nemoj slucajno da skines slike Albanskih seljaka koji su tamni zbog rada po njivama.

Нећу, овај се баш не убија од рада, а и зима је па не може да се сунћа, него води натоварену помоћну радну снагу:

 

[Акај]

Ta elita je Srpska a ne Balkanska, a ti su sebe spustili, svi im se smeju i niko nece ni da trosi vreme zbog te ludnice ko je Ilir a ko Slaven.
Ako su Srbi opsednuti o falsifikatorima, onda nek pocinju od samog sebe. Taj pasalluk je bio vasa prva drzavica koji su vam poklonili vase gazde Turci.
Albanci su imali puno drzavica a nikad jednu jedinu. To je i slabost Albanaca za ujedinjenje. Jedni ko je mogo to da uradi je bio Milosevic i Srpska mrznja prema nama.
Albanci su uvjek koristli razlicite alfabete: Grcki, Latinski, Arapski a bilo je i pojedinaca koji su smislili nekeakva slova ali niko nije to nikad koristio osim neki pojedinaca u Elbasanu. Opet taj 11 vek. To jest istina u Vizantijskim kronikama, to je do sad prvi put da nas spominju.
Arnaut znaci: ' Oni koji se ne vracaju sa boja" ili sinonim za tvrdoglav. Albanci su bili poznati kao strogi i najzesci borci, pa zato i to ime, i sinonim. A prava istina je da se to preuzimalo od Arvanit (u Grckoj) i posto to lici na njihov izraz Arnaut-tvrdoglav ili oni koji se vracaju sa boja, i po vidjanju Albanaca u bojnom polju.
Nasa i Fizionomija drugih Europiana je poznata kao Kavkazoidna ili bolje reci Bela rasa. A te vase fore o nizom rastu i tamne boje ne pale vise osim kod Srba koji zele da nas tako gledaju. Gledaj malo okolo sebe u Srbiji kolko njih su tamni pa se vrati da to diskutujemo. I nemoj slucajno da skines slike Albanskih seljaka koji su tamni zbog rada po njivama.

Nisu oni sebe spustili,nego vas i to zestoko, sa argumentima.
Sta podvucena recenica treba da znaci ?
Bojim se da tvoje propagandne ideje Beogradskog pasaluka kao prve spske drzave - ne pale.. Po zvanicnoj nauci prva srpska drzava je ona od pre 1000 godina pod Jovanom Vladimirom,Bodinom i ostalima.A po drugim teorijama Srbi su imali drzave daleko pre nove ere,ali sada nije tema o tome.
A i Beogradski pasaluk je veci od vase prve drzavice *ebiga takav je zivot

Prva siptarska drzava je ovo -

Evo i vaseg izvornog alfabeta

Bas sam setao malocas... Nema uopste tamnoputih ljudi,svi uglavnom imaju tamnu boju kose,a ono malo sa tamnim putom su ljudi koji rade na otvorenom ili balavice koje vole da idu u solarijum.

Arnaut znaci onaj koji se nije vratio,takodje oznacava ratnika.

 

[Акај]

Sad mozes da ides da sanjas Ilire i psujes Slobu.

Ako oces jos samo javi..

 

[Arberi]

"In 19. century, some admirers of Albanians (from german ethnic stock) had find about 50 men, who was able to write..
But they write this Elbasan scripts (near to turkish runes and caucassian letters).."




На жалост , Евлија Челебија не спомиње никакав бој, а он је први записао име Арнаут и протумачио га својим, турским језиком, дакле они који се нису вратили у своју земљу, нешто као трајни исељеник.




Кавказоид је Америчка, потпуно ненаучна измишљотина која одваја црнце од светлијих људи, ради унутрашњих потреба полицијске администрације. У Кавказоиде спадају и Арапи.




Нећу, овај се баш не убија од рада, а и зима је па не може да се сунћа, него води натоварену помоћну радну снагу:

E moj Milorade napravi 3.000 posta skoro jos uve se bavis s'tim slikama

Alhemym007

Sad mozes da ides da sanjas Ilire i psujes Slobu.

Ako oces jos samo javi.

Nece vise , jer vidis da je covek Baniran

 

[Акај]

E moj Milorade napravi 3.000 posta skoro jos uve se bavis s'tim slikama


Nece vise , jer vidis da je covek Banovan

Pa sigurno nije bez razloga.

Evo jos nesto o Ilirima

Spojler

 

[Arberi]

Rest of the World kaze ovako , ne ja :

The origins of the Albanian people are not definitely known, but data drawn from history and from linguistic, archaeological, and anthropological studies have led to the conclusion that Albanians are the direct descendants of the ancient Illyrians. Similarly, the Albanian language derives from the language of the Illyrians, the transition from Illyrian to Albanian apparently occurring between...

 

[Акај]

Rest of the World kaze ovako , ne ja :

Vi ste Iliri u onoj meri koliko su Bavarci Nemci,tako da mozes da se opustis.

 

[Andjela]

Rest of the World kaze ovako , ne ja :

Ostatak sveta? Daj bre Arberi, preterujes. Nekoliko korumpiranih ljudi propagira to, sto zbog love, sto iz politickih razloga.
Pa nije ceo svet bre sisao vesla.

 

[Istocni Vetar]

Ostatak sveta? Daj bre Arberi, preterujes. Nekoliko korumpiranih ljudi propagira to, sto zbog love, sto iz politickih razloga.
Pa nije ceo svet bre sisao vesla.