Sudbina

Brate, rekoh da mislim da ne znaš, zatim rekoh verujem da ne znaš, a Ti reče veruješ da misliš.
Hajde, budi pošten pa reci, je l' to demagogija ili nije?

Hm, jopet projektujesh... :hahaha:
Ajd nocka, ode chika Shaki da kunta...
Btw. ovo shto sam te zezo, tj. shto smo zvrljali i nema bash neke velke veze sa sudbinom ja bi reko? Jel da?:lol:
 
Evo pogledaj, NAVEDI MI GDE TO BOG U SVOM ZAKONU, GOVORI O UBIJANJU SVOJE DECE,O SATIRANJU NARODA I TD. ?
obrati paznju. ovo nisu svi delovu. dozvoljeno je samo 10.000 znakova po postu. ovo je samo deo njegove ljubavi. velika je njegova ljubav. sta bi tek bilo da mrzi ljude????

Kill Men, Women, and Children

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

Kill Old Men and Young Women

"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter. So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)

Lord Will Kill the Children of Sinners

If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

More Rape and Baby Killing

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

Mass Murder

This is what the Lord of hosts has to say: 'I will punish what Amalek did to Israel when he barred his way as he was coming up from Egypt. Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.' (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)

God Promises More Killing

I will make Mount Seir utterly desolate, killing off all who try to escape and any who return. I will fill your mountains with the dead. Your hills, your valleys, and your streams will be filled with people slaughtered by the sword. I will make you desolate forever. Your cities will never be rebuilt. Then you will know that I am the LORD. (Ezekiel 35:7-9 NLT)

Killing at Jericho

When the people heard the sound of the horns, they shouted as loud as they could. Suddenly, the walls of Jericho collapsed, and the Israelites charged straight into the city from every side and captured it. They completely destroyed everything in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, donkeys – everything. (Joshua 6:20-21 NLT)

Mass Murder

The men of Israel withdrew through the territory of the Benjaminites, putting to the sword the inhabitants of the city, the livestock, and all they chanced upon. Moreover they destroyed by fire all the cities they came upon. (Judges 20:48 NAB)

Kill Your Neighbors

(Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, "All of you who are on the LORD's side, come over here and join me." And all the Levites came. He told them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors." The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, "Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing." (Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)

Kill the Family of Sinners

And Joshua said to Achan, My son, give, I pray thee, glory to the LORD God of Israel, and make confession to him; and tell me now what thou hast done, hide it not from me. And Achan answered Joshua, and said, Indeed I have sinned against the LORD God of Israel, and thus and thus have I done. When I saw among the spoils a goodly Babylonish garment, and two hundred shekels of silver, and a wedge of gold of fifty shekels weight, then I coveted them, and took them, and behold, they are hid in the earth in the midst of my tent, and the silver under it." [Note that the sin is not looting, but failing to give the loot to the treasury of the Lord.] "So Joshua sent messengers, and they ran to the tent, and behold, it was hid in his tent, and the silver under it. And they took them from the midst of the tent, and brought them to Joshua, and to all the children of Israel, and laid them out before the LORD. And Joshua, and all Israel with him, took Achan the son of Zerah, and the silver, and the garment, and the wedge of gold, and his sons, and his daughters, and his oxen, and his asses, and his sheep, and his tent, and all that he had: and they brought them to the valley of Achor. And Joshua said, why hast thou troubled us? the LORD shall trouble thee this day. And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones. And they raised over him a great heap of stones to this day. So the LORD turned from the fierceness of his anger: wherefore the name of that place was called the valley of Achor to this day. (Joshua 7:19-26 Webster's Bible)

Kill Followers of Other Religions

While the Israelites were camped at Acacia, some of the men defiled themselves by sleeping with the local Moabite women. These women invited them to attend sacrifices to their gods, and soon the Israelites were feasting with them and worshiping the gods of Moab. Before long Israel was joining in the worship of Baal of Peor, causing the LORD's anger to blaze against his people. The LORD issued the following command to Moses: "Seize all the ringleaders and execute them before the LORD in broad daylight, so his fierce anger will turn away from the people of Israel." So Moses ordered Israel's judges to execute everyone who had joined in worshiping Baal of Peor. Just then one of the Israelite men brought a Midianite woman into the camp, right before the eyes of Moses and all the people, as they were weeping at the entrance of the Tabernacle. When Phinehas son of Eleazar and grandson of Aaron the priest saw this, he jumped up and left the assembly. Then he took a spear and rushed after the man into his tent. Phinehas thrust the spear all the way through the man's body and into the woman's stomach. So the plague against the Israelites was stopped, but not before 24,000 people had died. (Numbers 25:1-9 NLT)

Murder

At the customary time for offering the evening sacrifice, Elijah the prophet walked up to the altar and prayed, "O LORD, God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, prove today that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant. Prove that I have done all this at your command. O LORD, answer me! Answer me so these people will know that you, O LORD, are God and that you have brought them back to yourself." Immediately the fire of the LORD flashed down from heaven and burned up the young bull, the wood, the stones, and the dust. It even licked up all the water in the ditch! And when the people saw it, they fell on their faces and cried out, "The LORD is God! The LORD is God!" Then Elijah commanded, "Seize all the prophets of Baal. Don't let a single one escape!" So the people seized them all, and Elijah took them down to the Kishon Valley and killed them there. (1 Kings 18:36-40 NLT)

Kill All of Babylon

"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction". (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)

Micah Kills a Whole Town

Then, with Micah's idols and his priest, the men of Dan came to the town of Laish, whose people were peaceful and secure. They attacked and killed all the people and burned the town to the ground. There was no one to rescue the residents of the town, for they lived a great distance from Sidon and had no allies nearby. This happened in the valley near Beth-rehob.Then the people of the tribe of Dan rebuilt the town and lived there. They renamed the town Dan after their ancestor, Israel's son, but it had originally been called Laish. (Judges 18:27-29 NLT) (Note that God approves of this slaughter in verse 6.)
 
Y:
A koji su to meni slični?
Koja proročanstva? I na koju brzinu uključiti mozak? Meni i dalje nije jasno kako misliš da ja ovako ograničena mogu da znam za šta treba, a za šta ne treba uključivati mozak? Jel ima neko uputstvo?

Pun je stari zavet primera. Ne misliš valjda da ću ja da ti izvlačim citate?
Pa potrebno je da pruzis ruku Ocu, a ne da citas Bibliju trazeci joj mane (kojih nema), i iz toga proizilazi veliko nista. Znas ono kada Bog kaze, kada bi vas stavili na vagu, bili bi laksi nego nista....

Evo je bubko izneo neke Biblijske citate, valjda na njih mislis.
To ti je ono, u Bibliji pise ''nema Boga'', a kada procitamo celu recenicu, onda dobijamo: "Reče bezumnik u srcu svome; 'nema Boga'.''
Dakle, sve ovo sto je bubko izvadio je debelo iz konteksta, ja cu navesti neke razloge za pojedine citate, stvarno nemam vremena za sve pojedinacno.
Y:
I to je dovoljno da tvrdiš da "znaš"?
Ne kaže se predpostavkama, već pretpostavkama.

Samo dete i može da poveruje u priču o kreacionizmu... ovi koji su prerasli taj uzrast su infantilni.

Da li čovek može da nastane od rebra? Misim, tužno.
:lol: Ista si kao i onaj @ranjeni, kada nemate neki odg. onda drazite pravopisne greske :lol:
Problem je sto se detetu ne predaje kreacionizam, vec evolucionizam, pa si onda i u pravu.
Haha...pa pre svega covek je nastao od praha zemaljskog, mi danas naucno znamo da kada covek prestane da funkcionise, tacnije umre, pretvara se u prah. Bog je coveka mogao da stvori na bilo koji nacin, a Eva je ta koju je stvorio od Adamovog rebra.

Citam dole, lepo ti je pitanje postavio @dragon, da li covek moze da nastane od spermatozoida? ...da li nauka moze da objasni taj proces? :lol:
Y:
A kakav je to moj život?
To što ti imaš nisu dokazi, već tripovi.
Pa, tuzan je takav zivot, zivot bez Roditelja....kao siroce.
Sa tvoje tacke gledista mozda tako izgleda, ali sa moje tacke je nesto sasvim drugo :)

Y:
Daj mi svoje tumačenje nemorala. Ne karikiraj i ne vređaj, presipamo iz šupljeg u prazno. Postavim ti jednostavna pitanja, ti uporno vređaš, nijedan smislen odgovor nisi dao.
Nikog ja ne vredjam, samo iznosim realnost!
Pa ako znas sta je Biblijski moral, onda sve suprotno od toga je nemoral....
Stvarno nemam nameru da pisem u prazno....kao da tebe to zanima.:eek:

Y:
Ja ne pričam o pravim stvarima, već o neophodnim.
Kako god
 
Poslednja izmena:
obrati paznju. ovo nisu svi delovu. dozvoljeno je samo 10.000 znakova po postu. ovo je samo deo njegove ljubavi. velika je njegova ljubav. sta bi tek bilo da mrzi ljude????
Zalosno vas je gledati!
Pa da li si ti ovo proverio, ili ti je jedini cilj da ispadnes u pravu, na bilo koji nacin!?
Pa druze ja cu ti iz konteksta napraviti bilo kakvu sliku o Bogu, to nije nikakav problem. Ali daj procitaj sta pise iza, ili sta pise ispred koteksta, ili procitaj celo poglavlje, pa i celu knjigu ako treba.
Ja cu ti navesti samo neke, od razloga Bozijeg gneva.
Ako mislis da onaj koji, nagovara dete na nemoral, koji mu prodaje drogu, uci ga kurvarluku, i raznim gadostima, da ne zasluzuje da bude ubijen, onda stvarno neznam sta treba tolerisati??????
Pa da li si ti svestan da se Bog trudi da nas spase, da nam pomogne, da se sto vise ljudi spase, ne da sto vise ljudi dobije na loto, da voze sto bolja kola, da imaju dobru kucu, NEGO DA SE SPASU, da imaju vecni zivot!, Pa dete koje pogine, njega ceka vecni zivot, jeli bolje da pogine dete iz neke nemoralne porodice, i da kasnije bude vaskrsnuto, i da zivi sa svojim pravim Ocem, ili da se to dete pusti da odraste uz mafijasku porodicu, i da to dete, sada vec otac uci svoje dete nemoralu i raznim gadostima, i da bude kaznjeno na velikom sudu (po delima svojim)????
Zalosno vas je gledati kako hulite na sopstvenog Oca, koji pokusava da vam pomogne a vi mu tako vracate, zaista vas nikada necu razumeti!

Kill Men, Women, and Children

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)
‘’Док су они убијали, ја сам био поштеђен, па сам пао ничице и повикао: „Јао, Господе! Зар ћеш уништити сав Израелов остатак изливајући свој гнев на Јерусалим?”
А он ми рече: „Велики је преступ Израеловог и Јудиног дома, веома велик. Земља је пуна крви, а град је пун покварености, јер говоре: ‘Господ је оставио ову земљу. Господ не види.’ Зато се ни моје око неће сажалити и нећу имати самилости. Њихова дела оборићу на њихову главу.”

Kill Old Men and Young Women

"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter. So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)
''Платићу Вавилону и свим становницима Халдеје за све зло које су учинили на Сиону пред вашим очима”, говори Господ. „Ево, долазим на тебе, горо која уништаваш”, говори Господ, „која уништаваш сву земљу. Дићи ћу руку на тебе, оборићу те с литица над којима се уздижеш и претворићу те у спаљену гору.”

Lord Will Kill the Children of Sinners

If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)
''Али ако ме не будете слушали и не будете извршавали све ове заповести, ако одбаците моје одредбе и ако вашој души постану мрски моји закони тако да не извршавате све моје заповести и тако прекршите мој савез, онда ћу ја вама учинити ово:...''
Citaj sta ce sve Gospod da uradi, pa tek onda to sto je citirano, citaj!
More Rape and Baby Killing

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)
Pa da li je potrebno citirati sta se sve radilo u Vavilinu!!!!!!???????


Stvarno nemam nameru da ti na svaki citat pojedinacno ponavljam, jedno te isto.
Ukljuci to malo razuma sto ti je ostalo!
 
Pa potrebno je da pruzis ruku Ocu, a ne da citas Bibliju trazeci joj mane (kojih nema), i iz toga proizilazi veliko nista. Znas ono kada Bog kaze, kada bi vas stavili na vagu, bili bi laksi nego nista....

Mane se nekako same nameću, nisam ih tražila. Lakše bi bilo da se nisu ni pojavile. Ali, kad već jesu... ne mogu da žmurim.

Evo je bubko izneo neke Biblijske citate, valjda na njih mislis.
To ti je ono, u Bibliji pise ''nema Boga'', a kada procitamo celu recenicu, onda dobijamo: "Reče bezumnik u srcu svome; 'nema Boga'.''
Dakle, sve ovo sto je bubko izvadio je debelo iz konteksta, ja cu navesti neke razloge za pojedine citate, stvarno nemam vremena za sve pojedinacno.

Nemam pojma šta je ko izneo, nemam vremena da čitam sve postove... :lol:

:lol: Ista si kao i onaj @ranjeni, kada nemate neki odg. onda drazite pravopisne greske :lol:

Hvala. :)
Problem je sto se detetu ne predaje kreacionizam, vec evolucionizam, pa si onda i u pravu.
Haha...pa pre svega covek je nastao od praha zemaljskog, mi danas naucno znamo da kada covek prestane da funkcionise, tacnije umre, pretvara se u prah. Bog je coveka mogao da stvori na bilo koji nacin, a Eva je ta koju je stvorio od Adamovog rebra.

A šta se deci predaje u školama? Gradivo je zasnovano na mnogo višem stupnju od vere.

Od kakvog praha je nastao? :huh:

Citam dole, lepo ti je pitanje postavio @dragon, da li covek moze da nastane od spermatozoida? ...da li nauka moze da objasni taj proces? :lol:

Pa, jel može? :lol:

Pa, tuzan je takav zivot, zivot bez Roditelja....kao siroce.
Sa tvoje tacke gledista mozda tako izgleda, ali sa moje tacke je nesto sasvim drugo :)

Moji roditelji su stvarni.
Nikog ja ne vredjam, samo iznosim realnost!
Pa ako znas sta je Biblijski moral, onda sve suprotno od toga je nemoral....
Stvarno nemam nameru da pisem u prazno....kao da tebe to zanima.:eek:

Ne bi pitala da me ne zaima.
A bez biblije nema ni morala? :lol:


Tako reci...
 
Y:
A šta se deci predaje u školama? Gradivo je zasnovano na mnogo višem stupnju od vere.
Nemoj pogresno da me razumes (u smislu da te ponizavam), ne volim sa zenskim osobama da raspravljam o naucnim temema, a ovde se svakako namece....imam mnogo, mnogo gresaka u evolucionizmu, tako da bi tesko mogla bilo sta da odbranis.
Y:
Od kakvog praha je nastao? :huh:
Zemaljskog.
Y:
Moze, nego nije samo u tome stvar, nego sto je spermatozoid nesvesna bioloska masina, a obavlja toliko funkcija kao da je svestan...na sta nauka nema objasnjenje.

Y:
Moji roditelji su stvarni.
Oni su nam samo prenosioci zivota.

Y:
Ne bi pitala da me ne zaima.
A bez biblije nema ni morala? :lol:
Ocigledno ne. To vidimo u praksi. Zar ne?


Izgledas mi dobronamerno i pored silnih provokacija....valjda me osecaj ne vara. ;)
 
Nemoj pogresno da me razumes (u smislu da te ponizavam), ne volim sa zenskim osobama da raspravljam o naucnim temema, a ovde se svakako namece....imam mnogo, mnogo gresaka u evolucionizmu, tako da bi tesko mogla bilo sta da odbranis.

Hoćeš da kažeš da su žene glupe?

Nisam ni mislila da branim evolucionizam, već da napadam kreacionizam. :lol:

Ko kaže?
Moze, nego nije samo u tome stvar, nego sto je spermatozoid nesvesna bioloska masina, a obavlja toliko funkcija kao da je svestan...na sta nauka nema objasnjenje.

Znači, mora svesno "lice" da obavi oplodnju? :eek:
To bi objasnilo sve? :zcepanje:

Oni su nam samo prenosioci zivota.

Koliko mi je poznato, aktivno i direktno su učestvovali... :rumenka:

Ocigledno ne. To vidimo u praksi. Zar ne?

Gde? Gde? Gde? :eek:
Izgledas mi dobronamerno i pored silnih provokacija....valjda me osecaj ne vara. ;)

Neću tako da se igram... :tiganj:
 
Y:
Hoćeš da kažeš da su žene glupe?
E bas si to morala da kazes.
Pravo da ti akzem mnoge jesu. :lol:
Ali cu slicno reci i za mmuskarce, nije nikakav problem. :cool:

Y:
Nisam ni mislila da branim evolucionizam, već da napadam kreacionizam. :lol:
Kao svaki evolucionista. ;)

Y:
Bog.

Y:
Znači, mora svesno "lice" da obavi oplodnju? :eek:
To bi objasnilo sve? :zcepanje:
Pa tesko je objasniti, da spermatozoid, kao nesvestan, zna gde treba da ide, tacneje gde je jajna celija, a zatim kada ulazi u jajnu celiju odpusta svoj rep, kako to? a on je nesvestan, ne moze da prepozna svoju spoljasnost. Da na vreme ne otpusti svoj rep unistio bi jajnu celiju, i nista od deteta. :)
Ima tu mnogo detalja koje nauka ne moze da objasni.

Y:
Koliko mi je poznato, aktivno i direktno su učestvovali... :rumenka:
:lol: E sad me zezas.
Y:
Pa svuda, gde god se okrenes, evo ovaj @dejannn nocas ubi sa pitanjima zasto je ovoliko zla. :lol:

Y:
Neću tako da se igram... :tiganj:
:lol: :gace:
 

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