Srbija na istorijskom politickom raskršću : uci u EU ili se ujediniti sa Rusijom ?

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  • Ukupno glasova
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Numb3r:
Niko te ne tera,nego ako je toliko bolje ziveti u Bugarskoj i svi je tvoji prijatelji hvale,idi tamo gde je bolje....ja smtram da je u Srbiji daleko bolje
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Menjaš teze.
Ovde se forsira priča da Bugarska nije imala nikakvu korist od učlanjenja u EU.
To je rusolaž.
Činjenice tj ekonomski pokazatelji govore suprotno.
Ja sam ti tražio pokazatelj za bugarsku propast, ti pominješ neke prijatelje kao indikatore. Iz zajebancije ti navedem N+1 prijatelj, kao kontra "argument" tvom "argumentu", a ti preporučiš selidbu u Bugarsku.

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Leonidas_of_Sparta:
Kakve gluposti..po kojem parametru možeš porediti zemlje ruskog svijeta i EU..Armenija vs Litvanija, Bjelorusija vs Austrija, Rusija vs Njemačka/Francuska/Italija...izuzev po subjektivnom osjećaju da TI lično hoćeš da su te zemlje ruskog svijeta BOLJE..ali sve što je mjerljivo kaže da nisu, nisu nikad bile i vjerovatno neće nikada biti. Pa Rusi bez ugledanja u Evropu još uvijek bi bili feud..doduše najveći na svijetu ali ipak feud
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Upravo ovo,samo ponavljanje
 
Dе Sisti:
Menjaš teze.
Ovde se forsira priča da Bugarska nije imala nikakvu korist od učlanjenja u EU.
To je rusolaž.
Činjenice tj ekonomski pokazatelji govore suprotno.
Ja sam ti tražio pokazatelj za bugarsku propast, ti pominješ neke prijatelje kao indikatore. Iz zajebancije ti navedem N+1 kao kontra "argument" tvom "argumentu", ti preporučiš selidbu u Bugarsku.

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Znaci moze se bez EU,posto je u Srbiji bolje nego u Bugarskoj
 
Dе Sisti:
I da, navedite mi jedan primer ruske uspešne priče, model države koja je procvetala zbog savezništva sa Rusima.

Hvala unapred. :hvala:
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Ne da su neke procvetale, vec su sacuvale zivu glavu i spasile se potpunog unistenja saveznistvom sa Rusijom ( Jermenija, Gruzija ) , neke su osvojile slobodu i formirale se kao drzave saveznistvom sa Rusijom ( Bugarska, Rumunija, Finska, Srbija, Grcka , Crna Gora ) , neke iz rodovsko - plemenskog haosa presle u civilizaciju ( razni Kirgistani , Azerbejdzani ) ....
 
Dе Sisti:
Što pitaš? Je li to izdaja, daleko bilo?
Svoje mišljenje zasnivam na brojevima, dok ti svoje na čemu?
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Nemoj odmah da bulaznis,kakva izdaja,imas pravo na svoje misljenje i ja te pitam koje ti je misljenje,ocigledno si me zamenio za neke koje vicu izdaja cim nekog pohvalis a nije Srbija.....daj mi te brojeve,glup sam ne znam da nadjem
 
Numb3r:
Sve sto nadjes a relevantno je,hvala
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Za koji pokazatelj bi hteo detalje?


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Trade
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Poslednja izmena:
Dе Sisti:
Za koji pokazatelj bi hteo detalje?

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Defence Expenditure (%Bud.) [+]20195.39%
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2019Defence Expenditure (%Bud.) [+]
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42
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49º
2019Competitiveness Ranking [+]
Fragile States Index [+]201868.1
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RTI Raking [+]9/28/20183º
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1/1/2019RTI Raking [+]
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1
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Kako carski objasnjeno. 👍

Rumuniju i Hrvatsku ne treba ni kaciti, one su tek nedostizni giganti u odnosu na ekonomskog tigra. :P
 
Lepi Bora:
Ne da su neke procvetale, vec su sacuvale zivu glavu i spasile se potpunog unistenja saveznistvom sa Rusijom ( Jermenija, Gruzija ) , neke su osvojile slobodu i formirale se kao drzave saveznistvom sa Rusijom ( Bugarska, Rumunija, Finska, Srbija, Grcka , Crna Gora ) , neke iz rodovsko - plemenskog haosa presle u civilizaciju ( razni Kirgistani , Azerbejdzani ) ....
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Jermenija - sačuvali tako što su Turcima prepustili čitavu zapadnu Jermeniju gde je većina Jermena živela, plus što je izgubljeno 2/3 Karabaha. Jermeni sabijeni u besperspektivne landlocked bivšu Erevan guberniju
Gruzija - zajedno sa islamistima severnog Kavkaza oteli im Abhaziju i odatle proterali 250.000 Gruzijaca, uz javne egzekucije u Suhumiju i Goriju
Bugarska - njihov večiti favorit na Balkanu. Slobodu jesu dobili, ali je Bugarska od samog početka išla zapadnim putem.
Rumunija - dobili slobodu, ali nisu im Rusi postavljali temelje države.
Finska - jedva čekala da pobegne i iskoristila prvu povoljnu priliku 1918.
Srbija - Rusija prodala Austriji BiH za račun Bugarske, a za Bugarsku planirala celu Makedoniju, veliki deo Kosova i današnje jugoistočne Srbije (uključujući i Niš), nije htela da podrži pripajanje Vidinskog i Trnskog okruga Srbiji kao kompenzaciju za ujedinjenje Srbije. Srbija nikada nije igrala nikakvu ozbiljnu računicu u planovima Rusije, osim uloge monete za potkusurivanje.
Grčka - Rusija joj dala nezavisnost i slobodu?
Crna Gora - ok, pomagala finansijski
Svi Azerbejdžani i -stanovi su potrčali u nezavisnost. I pre ruske vlasit, tamo su na vlasti bile neke druge države. Recimo, Persija je držala Azerbejdžan, Turkmenistan i sl.
 
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