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Kakav će biti odgovor Rusije na teroristički napad koji se povezuje sa Ukrajinom i zapadom?

  • Samo napadi na ukrajinske centre odlučivanja i pojedince

    glasova: 22 31,0%

  • Mobilizacija i kopneni napad mnogo veći nego ranije

    glasova: 10 14,1%

  • Treći svetski rat i širenje napada van Ukrajine

    glasova: 3 4,2%

  • Ništa od navedenog, manje više isti tempo ratovanja

    glasova: 36 50,7%
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Mstislav:
Patriotiozam ruskih lopova je na zavidnom nivou. Uz mali FSB poticaj. :mrgreen:

Осуждённая за коррупцию экс-министр культуры Крыма попросила отправить ее на спецоперацию​


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LakicevicB:
Da, a talijanci glupi pa nisu mogli da provere kvalitet lima. Ne radi se o tabli lima pa da kažeš ko ga ebe, :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:
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to se dijete radi na drzavnom nivou, slicno se radilo i u sfrj, firma skljuci posao u kuvajtu ili iraku, iracka vlada jugoslovenskoj vladi prebaci naftu, vlada naftu proda na domacem ili stranom trzistu, vlada posle placa parama firme...
Inace kvalitet lima se video tek kada su pocela da rdjaju kola, a tad je bilo kasno...

uostalom ako si zeljan znanja evo t malo teksta:

Probably slightly OT, but not entirely unrelated to topics usually discussed here, recent problems of Fiat Auto prompted me to start this thread. It is relatively common knowledge that implementation of lower quality Russian, or better to say Soviet steel was one of key reasons in declining of Italian car industry. Apparently, Italian cars didn't rust more than others until Italian manufacturers started using cheap but low quality steel imported from former USSR. After that, they developed strong tendency to become eaten by rust in first few years of existence (Lancia Beta, Alfasud...), also gaining bad reputation they never fully overcome... As a distant consequence of it, Lancia brand will probably disappear very soon, immediately after GM or anyone else takes over Fiat Auto.

Of course that it isn't full and only reason behind demise of Italian cars, one can also point to dry climate that logically led to taking less care of rust protection than, let's say, German or Swedish manufacturers... Doing business with heart instead of brain is also too common case in Italy, as we all know it (and I do believe that quite a lot of us like that kind of approach...), but that thing with Soviet steel often intrigued me, so I would like to know a few things about that.

When exactly Italians started to use imported Soviet steel in car manufacturing? I believe it was around 1970, but it would be nice to find out exactly when – and why. Was it related to ever so strong Italian Communist party? It is well known that Agnelli family never supported them but also always carefully avoided direct conflicts with Communists. It could be related – Soviets mostly considered Italy as some kind of should-be Communist country, and relations with Italian Communists were mostly good (even new town built for manufacturing licensed Italian cars marketed as Lada or Zhiguli was named after Palmiro Togliatti). So were Italian Communists key factor in choosing Fiat to motorizing USSR with Lada cars, and in getting steel in exchange for royalties and given technology? IIRC, Soviet steel was indeed a kind of compensation in Lada deal...
 
Dobro situirani gospodin:
to se dijete radi na drzavnom nivou, slicno se radilo i u sfrj, firma skljuci posao u kuvajtu ili iraku, iracka vlada jugoslovenskoj vladi prebaci naftu, vlada naftu proda na domacem ili stranom trzistu, vlada posle placa parama firme...
Inace kvalitet lima se video tek kada su pocela da rdjaju kola, a tad je bilo kasno...

uostalom ako si zeljan znanja evo t malo teksta:

Probably slightly OT, but not entirely unrelated to topics usually discussed here, recent problems of Fiat Auto prompted me to start this thread. It is relatively common knowledge that implementation of lower quality Russian, or better to say Soviet steel was one of key reasons in declining of Italian car industry. Apparently, Italian cars didn't rust more than others until Italian manufacturers started using cheap but low quality steel imported from former USSR. After that, they developed strong tendency to become eaten by rust in first few years of existence (Lancia Beta, Alfasud...), also gaining bad reputation they never fully overcome... As a distant consequence of it, Lancia brand will probably disappear very soon, immediately after GM or anyone else takes over Fiat Auto.

Of course that it isn't full and only reason behind demise of Italian cars, one can also point to dry climate that logically led to taking less care of rust protection than, let's say, German or Swedish manufacturers... Doing business with heart instead of brain is also too common case in Italy, as we all know it (and I do believe that quite a lot of us like that kind of approach...), but that thing with Soviet steel often intrigued me, so I would like to know a few things about that.

When exactly Italians started to use imported Soviet steel in car manufacturing? I believe it was around 1970, but it would be nice to find out exactly when – and why. Was it related to ever so strong Italian Communist party? It is well known that Agnelli family never supported them but also always carefully avoided direct conflicts with Communists. It could be related – Soviets mostly considered Italy as some kind of should-be Communist country, and relations with Italian Communists were mostly good (even new town built for manufacturing licensed Italian cars marketed as Lada or Zhiguli was named after Palmiro Togliatti). So were Italian Communists key factor in choosing Fiat to motorizing USSR with Lada cars, and in getting steel in exchange for royalties and given technology? IIRC, Soviet steel was indeed a kind of compensation in Lada deal...
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OPet ti kažem a ti kakoo žellš. Za misliš da se nešto kupuje, kompenzuje u enormnim količinama da se ne proveri kvalitet ? Mogli su im onda uvalit sargarepu umesto lima ako niko ne proverava. Ajd ne talambasaj bez veze.

Nisam ja željan čitat te budalaštine
 
Antilochus:
Dingbat, I asked you for the proof and you have none. Where did you go to school? Nigeria or croatia?
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nerastu, ju vant an dokaz da su french jedinice start ofansivu agejnst naci germany ?? pa nije that nesto sto ti treba forezinka, ju ken fajd te information in svakoj disent knjizi o historiji

The Saar Offensive was the French invasion of Saarland, Germany, in the first stages of World War II, from September 7 to October 16, 1939, in response to the German invasion of Poland on 1 September 1939. The original plans called for 40 divisions, and one armored division, three mechanised divisions, 78 artillery regiments and 40 tank battalions to assist Poland, which was then under invasion, by attacking Germany's neglected western front. Despite 30 divisions advancing to the border (and in some cases across it), the attack did not have the expected result. When the swift victory in Poland allowed Germany to reinforce its lines with homecoming troops, the offensive was halted. French forces then withdrew amid a German counter-offensive on 17 October.

I kao sto seen, francuzi su attack germany u vreme kada su nazist end russian forever tugeder attack poland end time started vorld var tu.
 
LakicevicB:
OPet ti kažem a ti kakoo žellš. Za misliš da se nešto kupuje, kompenzuje u enormnim količinama da se ne proveri kvalitet ? Mogli su im onda uvalit sargarepu umesto lima ako niko ne proverava. Ajd ne talambasaj bez veze.

Nisam ja željan čitat te budalaštine
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zao ti je sto nisi u pravu :D
nego znas li da su amerikanci izgradili najvecu rusku zelezaru ?
onu u Magnitorsku ?
 
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