Rat u Ukrajini (2)

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Da da "vidio sam tu govzdenu zavjesu prema ostatku Evrope" Banke preko koji se uplacuje novac za isporucene energente su i dalje u SWIFT sistemu.. A ti Ukrajino stej strong i zadovolji se aplauzom pedera u EU parlamentu.. Pa vi zvakači posrnule US žvake ste stvarno za sazaljenje...
Mislim da nisi vidio ništa što ćeš tek da vidiš
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Potrajaće ovo još, biće i sankcija još ...
 
Tenk je neophodan u borbama u gradu, samo ne u prvim linijama.
Zato postoji izvidnica i prethodnica koja ide ispred glavnine i javlja stanje na terenu. Kako ovo nije vreme Napoleona, ne šalju se kuriri,
nego se motorolom javljaju koordinate uporišta.
Efektivni domet tenka je dobrih 10km, sa današnjom elektronikom mogu da ti ubace granatu kroz prozor od klonje bez problema.


To itd, itd, se rešava tenkovima i artiljerijom, zato i postoje.


E sad, da su Rusi ko ameri i NATO, to bi se razbombardovalo u roku od par sati, i onda bi se izrazilo duboko žaljenje zbog
kolateralne štete i civilnih žrtava.
Kako Rusi nisu ameri, oni ulaze u ulične borbe, bombarduju samo vojne ciljeve i utvrđena uporišta i normalno je da pritom
trpe veće gubitke od onih američkih smradova.
Nije, biti u tenku u gradu je zajebano... pogovo jer su Ukri dobili gomilu oruzha koja ih nogu eliminusati ..
Mogu i dronovina da prate a aritiljrijom da elimisu ..to i rade kad god vide grupu boom ili neka budala postavi slike na Facebooku dobije granatu ..
Isto mi je cudno da govore kako hoce da ubiju Zelenskog a ne nogu da ga nadu a covek prica na mobilni non stop .. Tacbo znaju gde je i da hoce spistili bi mu bunker buster u krilo
 
Činjenica je da Nato može da naštampa neograničeno $ dolaresa i da su Rusi smešni u poredjenju sa tim fondovima,
ali ako su opet ušlli u ovu intervenciju znajući to, onda očigledno imaju neke podatke koje mi nemamo,
ovako nešto radi se samo kada nema drugih opcija.
zar mislis da takva sila i takav covek koji je uradio nemoguce od sssr
da kao pacer uleti u ovu pricu a da se nije prethodno na sve nacine obezbedio :lol:
 
A javljali su još prije 2 dana da je to zauzeto. :roll:

Pa kontranapad. Kontraofanzive , ubacivanje rezerve jesi cuo ti za te strucne vojne termine?

To sto osvojis nesto ne znaci da ces ga i zadrzati ako nisi spreman da ga branis i odbranis.

Jednostavno rat ce trajati dotle dok Ukri ne potrose ruske snage ili Rusi ukrajinske. Rat je ozbiljan , najozbiljniji u Evropi od 1945 zato sto iza Ukrajine stoji citav NATO sa svim svojim placenicima, logistikom, obavestajcima, oruzjem itd.
 
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Kherson i reke
The Jerusalem Post

Russia-Ukraine war: Strategic importance of Kherson, Dnieper river - analysis​




By MICHAEL STARR

8 hrs ago
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https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/othe...ter-wrote-prescient-letter-in-2016/ar-AAUzUPT
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 A warship of the Russian Black Sea fleet leaves a port during naval drills in Sevastopol, Crimea, in this still image taken from video released February 12, 2022.
© (photo credit: Russian Defence Ministry/Handout via REUTERS) A warship of the Russian Black Sea fleet leaves a port during naval drills in Sevastopol, Crimea, in this still image taken from video released February 12, 2022.

The fall of the Ukrainian city of Kherson on Wednesday night has major strategic significance, allowing the Russian military to utilize their Black Sea Fleet to attack cities, establish logistical lines, and divide Ukraine in two.

Kherson’s strategic location and the Dnieper River​

Kherson sits above the delta of the Dnieper River where it flows into the Black Sea. The Dnieper cuts directly through the center of Ukraine; it is wide, though it is as shallow as three meters in some locations. Zaporizhzhia, Dnipro and Kyiv and other major cities all sit on both banks of the Dnieper, and have ports, bridges and locks to allow civil navigation and commercial transportation.
“The Dnieper is a major transportation artery for Ukraine, and its dams provide power to a lot of Ukrainian industry, as well as civilians,” according to Dr. Scott Savitz, a senior engineer at the RAND Corporation, a US nonprofit global-policy think tank. “It cuts through the heart of Ukraine. It is for Ukraine what the Mississippi River is for the US.”
On Wednesday, Kherson Mayor Igor Kolykhaev acknowledged the city’s capture and met with the Russian commander who plans to set up a military administration.

Russia’s Black Sea Fleet​

Crimea’s Sevastopol is the home of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. The Black Sea Fleet has several craft classes capable of navigating the Dnieper River.
“The Buyan-class and Buyan-M-class corvettes only have drafts of two and 2.5 meters, respectively,” said Savitz. “Both are relatively small... small vessels are good for riverine fighting; they’re agile and can host various weapons that can be useful in the confined battle space.”
The fleet also has troop transporters and patrol ships that could enter the Dnieper. Given the significant commercial traffic in the river, the Russian military could also requisition and repurpose civilian vessels.

Naval attack on Ukrainian cities​

Moving warships up the Dnieper would provide a new angle of attack for Russian forces.

They could “conduct intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance or electronic warfare from ships, target key locations with guns and other short-range weapons from ships and/or launch amphibious operations against Ukrainian cities or other locations,” Savitz said. “In this confined environment, they could use lots of small vessels that aren’t even necessarily designed as warships and lots of traditionally land-based weapons, like rockets or mortars.”

As it is, the Dnieper passing through Kyiv and other major cities hinders their encirclement and endangers Russian forces by dividing them.

“Control of the river would also enable them to shuttle ground forces from one side to the other, whether via existing bridges, improvised bridges or vessels,” Savitz said.

Divide and conquer Ukraine​

 
Pa kontranapad. Kontraofanzive , ubacivanje rezerve jesi cuo ti za te strucne vojne termine?

To sto osvojis nesto ne znaci da ces ga i zadrzati ako nisi spreman da ga branis i odbranis.

Jednostavno rat ce trajati dotle dok Ukri ne potrose ruske snage ili Rusi ukrajinske. Rat je ozbiljan , najozbiljniji u Evropi od 1945 zato sto iza Ukrajine stoji citav NATO sa svim svojim placenicima, logistikom, obavestajcima, oruzjem itd.
Nije bilo nikakve kontraofanzive nego Rusi lažu. Istrčavaju se da se pohvale jer im operacija ide jadno.
 
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Не верујем, колико разумем, то су за њих тривијалности.

Ни у Украјини нису пресекли мобилну телефонију и Интернет.

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sve sto je brzo kuso je
zato je ovo opasno
seti se tenkova jna kad su krenuli ka hrvatskoj
a dileje pricale ma to ce zacas
a to zacas kolko je trajalo?

a ovde imas silu 100.000 puta vecu
razmisli...

Nije bilo nikakve kontraofanzive nego Rusi lažu. Istrčavaju se da se pohvale jer im operacija ide jadno.
a ukrajinci govore istinu jel? :lol:

dok pucaju na ruse iz skola i vrtica i obdanista...poznato?
 
Nije bilo nikakve kontraofanzive nego Rusi lažu. Istrčavaju se da se pohvale jer im operacija ide jadno.

Nisi u pravu. Gradonacelnik Zaporozja je priznao da su Rusi uzeli NE.

Ovo sad sto se desava je prva kontraofanziva oruzane vojske Ukrajine.

Vrse to na zaporoskom ratistu i na kijevskom. Videcemo u danima koji dolaze kako se dalje razvija situacija ali za sad se Rusi dobro drze. Uvode konstantno nove trupe pritiskaju itd.
 
Cilj svega ovoga jeste da ce se Rusija i Kina ujediniti u Evroazijski savez, sa jednom valutom. I to ce biti ravnoteza protiv EU i SAD.

Ovo je Aleksandr Dugin, ideolog vlade Putina.

ima i toga, ima i energetskog dila sa amerima
danas je neka drcna pichqa u usa, isprozivala americku vladu i kongres
da oni svojom taktikom oko energenata direktno finasiraju ruse i rat :lol:
 
Činjenica je da Nato može da naštampa neograničeno $ dolaresa i da su Rusi smešni u poredjenju sa tim fondovima,
ali ako su opet ušlli u ovu intervenciju znajući to, onda očigledno imaju neke podatke koje mi nemamo,
ovako nešto radi se samo kada nema drugih opcija.
A možda je Putin prosto pogrešno procjenio, i on je čovjek od krvi i mesa. I to čovjek koji je na čelu Rusije već preko 20 godina i koji je izgleda ušao u fazu da mu svi moraju potvrđivati ono što on misli, jer smatra da je najpametniji. Vidi se to u onom odnosu prema Nariškinu gdje ga javno ismijava i ponižava, a ovaj se mrčo vas spetljao, pa kao malo dijete ispravlja sebe da bi rekao ono što Putin želi da čuje. Kad neki vladar uđe u fazu da ne želi da čuje druga mišljenja ili da mu ih drugi ne smiju slobodno iznijeti, logično je da se prave i greške.
 
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Kherson i reke
The Jerusalem Post

Russia-Ukraine war: Strategic importance of Kherson, Dnieper river - analysis​




By MICHAEL STARR

8 hrs ago
LikeComments|

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/othe...ter-wrote-prescient-letter-in-2016/ar-AAUzUPT
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 A warship of the Russian Black Sea fleet leaves a port during naval drills in Sevastopol, Crimea, in this still image taken from video released February 12, 2022.
© (photo credit: Russian Defence Ministry/Handout via REUTERS) A warship of the Russian Black Sea fleet leaves a port during naval drills in Sevastopol, Crimea, in this still image taken from video released February 12, 2022.

The fall of the Ukrainian city of Kherson on Wednesday night has major strategic significance, allowing the Russian military to utilize their Black Sea Fleet to attack cities, establish logistical lines, and divide Ukraine in two.

Kherson’s strategic location and the Dnieper River​

Kherson sits above the delta of the Dnieper River where it flows into the Black Sea. The Dnieper cuts directly through the center of Ukraine; it is wide, though it is as shallow as three meters in some locations. Zaporizhzhia, Dnipro and Kyiv and other major cities all sit on both banks of the Dnieper, and have ports, bridges and locks to allow civil navigation and commercial transportation.
“The Dnieper is a major transportation artery for Ukraine, and its dams provide power to a lot of Ukrainian industry, as well as civilians,” according to Dr. Scott Savitz, a senior engineer at the RAND Corporation, a US nonprofit global-policy think tank. “It cuts through the heart of Ukraine. It is for Ukraine what the Mississippi River is for the US.”
On Wednesday, Kherson Mayor Igor Kolykhaev acknowledged the city’s capture and met with the Russian commander who plans to set up a military administration.

Russia’s Black Sea Fleet​

Crimea’s Sevastopol is the home of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. The Black Sea Fleet has several craft classes capable of navigating the Dnieper River.
“The Buyan-class and Buyan-M-class corvettes only have drafts of two and 2.5 meters, respectively,” said Savitz. “Both are relatively small... small vessels are good for riverine fighting; they’re agile and can host various weapons that can be useful in the confined battle space.”
The fleet also has troop transporters and patrol ships that could enter the Dnieper. Given the significant commercial traffic in the river, the Russian military could also requisition and repurpose civilian vessels.

Naval attack on Ukrainian cities​

Moving warships up the Dnieper would provide a new angle of attack for Russian forces.

They could “conduct intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance or electronic warfare from ships, target key locations with guns and other short-range weapons from ships and/or launch amphibious operations against Ukrainian cities or other locations,” Savitz said. “In this confined environment, they could use lots of small vessels that aren’t even necessarily designed as warships and lots of traditionally land-based weapons, like rockets or mortars.”

As it is, the Dnieper passing through Kyiv and other major cities hinders their encirclement and endangers Russian forces by dividing them.

“Control of the river would also enable them to shuttle ground forces from one side to the other, whether via existing bridges, improvised bridges or vessels,” Savitz said.

Divide and conquer Ukraine​


Znaci gotovi su ukroni
 
Koliko god da se obezbedio ovi drugi imaju mnogo, ali mnogo više love.
Svakako nadam se da imaju neki dil sa Kinom da ne bi jeli blato za 2-3 godine.
normalno
nije slucajno da od juce ameri samo pominju kinu da je u dilu sa rusijom :lol:
sve ovo nije zbog rusije sto ameri rade vec samo i jedino zbog kine
pametni ljudi su to lepo ispricali sta ce biti i zasto se radi
 
sve sto je brzo kuso je
zato je ovo opasno
seti se tenkova jna kad su krenuli ka hrvatskoj
a dileje pricale ma to ce zacas
a to zacas kolko je trajalo?

a ovde imas silu 100.000 puta vecu
razmisli...


a ukrajinci govore istinu jel? :lol:
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Према свему до сада, нити је брзо нити кусо.

Неки аналитичари процењују да су Руси до сада употребили свега 10% припремљених снага и да се све одвија "споро", али по плану.

Сада су затворили око Мариупоља украјинску групацију од неких 40 хиљада војника којим прети или предаја или уништење.

Свака нормална држава би у том тренутку прекинула непријатељства и прихватила мировни уговор.

Међутим, очигледно украјинска власт нема капацитет да о томе сама одлучује...

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