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Rat u Siriji - vesti i analize (4)
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Pored Pancira i ostalog od Rusa moderniziranim sirijskog PZO oružja Turci dronovima kljucaju sirijsku vojsku.
Pancir je reklamiran da ruši sve te malogabaritne ciljeve od dronova do krstarećih raketa. Očito ne.
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У праву си.
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Ne ide Turcima tako dobro kao što predstavljaju ..
Nisam pratila , kako su prošli u Libiji?
Nisam pratila , kako su prošli u Libiji?
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Danny Makki@DannymakkisyriaRoving Damascene | Syria Analyst: dannymakkisyr@gmail.com | Views My OwnFeb. 29, 2020 4 min read
Thread/ As one of the biggest regional escalations in the history of the #Syria war unfolds, here are a few thoughts on the Turkish-Russian/Syrian triangle of fighting in #Idlib – who will back down
1/Evidently #Russia has many limitations and concerns when it comes to an armed confrontation with #Turkey, something which has become increasingly apparent with its decisions in Syria, it does not want to enter a direct war with Turkey
2/#Russia has always proceeded with caution with its regional competitors or partners in #Syria, be that NATO, Turkey, or even Israel, it prefers to take a neutral or passive stance, for example the Syrian S300’s have not been activated and use of them is clearly not allowed.
3/Russian jets have barely seen the skies in Syria since the deadly strikes on Turkish troops, so #Russia is unwilling to engage #Turkey directly, Lavrov stated that “as soon as Russians found out (strikes), it requested gov forces to stop offensive to provide a safe evacuation”
4/The Turkish military through artillery and precise drones have been targeting with much success hundreds of Syrian positions, amour, & installations since the Turkish backed recapture of Saraqib which has heavily damaged the SAA (pro-government media has been coy on casualties)
5/ Turkey has done more harm to the Syrian army in days than whole areas & sectors did in years of fighting, the Syrian military has shown a complete lack of ability to deal with Turkish drones, videos of Turkish-inflicted carnage caused some criticism towards the Russians.
6/ For SAA it has been loss after loss with regards to men and equipment since #Turkey began hitting positions & amour, which tells us why advances have been so slow in certain areas &casualties high. Turkish drones have been over Idlib like hornets over the last few days
7/ Images of captured Syrian amour also show the rare use of camouflage, suggesting measures have been taken to decrease vulnerability to drone strikes, meaning they have been getting targeted for a while now, and the Russians have been able to provide no assistance or reprieve .
8/ There still is time for #Russia to re-assert its dominance, but even then, no real desire exists to enter a long-drawn-out proxy confrontation with #Turkey in #Idlib, Russia’s main interests in #Syria have been secured.
9/ #Russia supports the Syrian army with air strikes, but in return it has no willingness to do anything else, its economic interests are secured (taking over Syrian gas & phosphates. ect), it wants to reap the benefits of its intervention not get drawn into to a regional war.
10/ For Russia the lack of defensive assistance to the SAA and the lack of Russian jets over #Idlib suggest one main theme, #Russia wanted #Turkey to respond and get it over with, and then act depending on how bad the situation was.
11/ For the Syrian army, the situation was catastrophic, and the large losses in manpower and equipment have not only added up, but have paralyzed the Syrian army around #Idlib, meaning a well-planned militant offensive could reverse most SAA gains this month.
12/ Whilst its difficult to provide estimations, perhaps SAA casualties have averaged around 50 a day since #Turkey began using armed drones, fighting on the front-lines included. The equipment losses have been considerable, but conspicuously easier to replace.
13/ #Turkey has been striking areas away from #Idlib, sfira defense factories in #Aleppo were targeted and Nairab/Kwaires air-bases were reportedly struck . If Turkey continues volume of attacks, SAA will not be able to fend of any ground attacks without serious Russian air-power
14/There is still some controversy over who conducted the strikes which killed 34 Turkish soldiers in #Idlib, Turkish gov refraining from any blame on #Russia for the incidence. So Turkey does have the Russian deterrent in Idlib if it pushes too far, but how far is too far now?
15/ The attack on Turkish forces happened at night, and Syrian warplanes lack effective night-time capabilities, its air force rarely operates in the evening.
16/NATO & U.S government have decided to back Turkey, at least politically and Erdogan has held an intransigent stance on #Idlib, so who will back down? Turkey cannot afford to, but Russia may have allowed Syrian forces to be smashed to pieces by drones as a way to appease Turkey
17/ There has been a rising anti-Russian tone since #Turkey began its drone strikes. #Syria also faces an air-defense problem, whatever acceptable defenses it has are based in the south, its defenses in north are isolated, small in number, ineffective and susceptible to jamming.
18/ Whilst the strikes which killed two dozen Turkish soldiers are highly significant and represent an escalation of the type we haven’t seen before, the Turkish response has been deadly for SAA, perhaps ending any further serious Idlib offensive in the immediate future.
19/ Whilst the Syrian army may wait and take stock of its losses, #Turkeycannot overreach itself without butting heads with #Russia at some point, all it takes is for one Russian soldier to be targeted and the stakes change all over again.
20/ Lets remember that while Turkish forces were being bombed by the Russians in #Idlib earlier this month, joint Turkish and Russian patrols were taking place elsewhere in #Syria, so it’s a complicated situation.
Thread/ As one of the biggest regional escalations in the history of the #Syria war unfolds, here are a few thoughts on the Turkish-Russian/Syrian triangle of fighting in #Idlib – who will back down
1/Evidently #Russia has many limitations and concerns when it comes to an armed confrontation with #Turkey, something which has become increasingly apparent with its decisions in Syria, it does not want to enter a direct war with Turkey
2/#Russia has always proceeded with caution with its regional competitors or partners in #Syria, be that NATO, Turkey, or even Israel, it prefers to take a neutral or passive stance, for example the Syrian S300’s have not been activated and use of them is clearly not allowed.
3/Russian jets have barely seen the skies in Syria since the deadly strikes on Turkish troops, so #Russia is unwilling to engage #Turkey directly, Lavrov stated that “as soon as Russians found out (strikes), it requested gov forces to stop offensive to provide a safe evacuation”
4/The Turkish military through artillery and precise drones have been targeting with much success hundreds of Syrian positions, amour, & installations since the Turkish backed recapture of Saraqib which has heavily damaged the SAA (pro-government media has been coy on casualties)
5/ Turkey has done more harm to the Syrian army in days than whole areas & sectors did in years of fighting, the Syrian military has shown a complete lack of ability to deal with Turkish drones, videos of Turkish-inflicted carnage caused some criticism towards the Russians.
6/ For SAA it has been loss after loss with regards to men and equipment since #Turkey began hitting positions & amour, which tells us why advances have been so slow in certain areas &casualties high. Turkish drones have been over Idlib like hornets over the last few days
7/ Images of captured Syrian amour also show the rare use of camouflage, suggesting measures have been taken to decrease vulnerability to drone strikes, meaning they have been getting targeted for a while now, and the Russians have been able to provide no assistance or reprieve .
8/ There still is time for #Russia to re-assert its dominance, but even then, no real desire exists to enter a long-drawn-out proxy confrontation with #Turkey in #Idlib, Russia’s main interests in #Syria have been secured.
9/ #Russia supports the Syrian army with air strikes, but in return it has no willingness to do anything else, its economic interests are secured (taking over Syrian gas & phosphates. ect), it wants to reap the benefits of its intervention not get drawn into to a regional war.
10/ For Russia the lack of defensive assistance to the SAA and the lack of Russian jets over #Idlib suggest one main theme, #Russia wanted #Turkey to respond and get it over with, and then act depending on how bad the situation was.
11/ For the Syrian army, the situation was catastrophic, and the large losses in manpower and equipment have not only added up, but have paralyzed the Syrian army around #Idlib, meaning a well-planned militant offensive could reverse most SAA gains this month.
12/ Whilst its difficult to provide estimations, perhaps SAA casualties have averaged around 50 a day since #Turkey began using armed drones, fighting on the front-lines included. The equipment losses have been considerable, but conspicuously easier to replace.
13/ #Turkey has been striking areas away from #Idlib, sfira defense factories in #Aleppo were targeted and Nairab/Kwaires air-bases were reportedly struck . If Turkey continues volume of attacks, SAA will not be able to fend of any ground attacks without serious Russian air-power
14/There is still some controversy over who conducted the strikes which killed 34 Turkish soldiers in #Idlib, Turkish gov refraining from any blame on #Russia for the incidence. So Turkey does have the Russian deterrent in Idlib if it pushes too far, but how far is too far now?
15/ The attack on Turkish forces happened at night, and Syrian warplanes lack effective night-time capabilities, its air force rarely operates in the evening.
16/NATO & U.S government have decided to back Turkey, at least politically and Erdogan has held an intransigent stance on #Idlib, so who will back down? Turkey cannot afford to, but Russia may have allowed Syrian forces to be smashed to pieces by drones as a way to appease Turkey
17/ There has been a rising anti-Russian tone since #Turkey began its drone strikes. #Syria also faces an air-defense problem, whatever acceptable defenses it has are based in the south, its defenses in north are isolated, small in number, ineffective and susceptible to jamming.
18/ Whilst the strikes which killed two dozen Turkish soldiers are highly significant and represent an escalation of the type we haven’t seen before, the Turkish response has been deadly for SAA, perhaps ending any further serious Idlib offensive in the immediate future.
19/ Whilst the Syrian army may wait and take stock of its losses, #Turkeycannot overreach itself without butting heads with #Russia at some point, all it takes is for one Russian soldier to be targeted and the stakes change all over again.
20/ Lets remember that while Turkish forces were being bombed by the Russians in #Idlib earlier this month, joint Turkish and Russian patrols were taking place elsewhere in #Syria, so it’s a complicated situation.
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FSA sources:
"We downed an unmanned Russian Drone over Idlib and killed its pilot"
FSA sources:
"We downed an unmanned Russian Drone over Idlib and killed its pilot"
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Citam komentare i mislim da bi adminitracija morala nesto preduzeti, pise se dosta navijackih komentara bez ikakvog utemeljenja cak i u zdravom razumu . Ovde pojedini stalno gube jednu neospornu cinjenicu, ne vode se borbe na prilazima Assadove rezidencije, vec u pokrajni Idlib, poslednjem brlogu teroristickog saljama i otpada koji se tu sjatio posto ih je Assad pocistio sa teritorije cijele Sirije.
Ako je brkati iznogud mislio da interveniše, morao je to uraditi prije 2 god, kada je SAA jurisala na Alepo. Sada kada je Assad lkvidirao i pocistio sve osim Idliba, sada vam ostaje da se radujete vatrometu iz Turskih BPL koji imaju manju nosivost nego komercijalni dronovi koje svako moze kupiti na Ali Expresu .
Assad sve svoje efektive moze da usmjeri na Idlib, ne mora da razmislja ni o Alepu, ni o blokiranom Der el Zoru, ni o teroristima oko Damaska koji su mu granatirali rezdenciju...Ima on cime docekati iznoguda, ako ovaj krene sa pjesadijom i oklopom . Assadova vojska ratuje deceniju, a Turska vojska je ročna i pitanje koliko motivisana da gine u tamo nekoj bezveznoj Siriji.
Idlib nema nikakvu šansu, i onako je taj narod tamo iznuren i demotivisan i svi do jednog razmsiljaju kako da se dokopaju Njemacke da sa Frau Merkel grade multi etnicke vrijednosti.
Ako je brkati iznogud mislio da interveniše, morao je to uraditi prije 2 god, kada je SAA jurisala na Alepo. Sada kada je Assad lkvidirao i pocistio sve osim Idliba, sada vam ostaje da se radujete vatrometu iz Turskih BPL koji imaju manju nosivost nego komercijalni dronovi koje svako moze kupiti na Ali Expresu .
Assad sve svoje efektive moze da usmjeri na Idlib, ne mora da razmislja ni o Alepu, ni o blokiranom Der el Zoru, ni o teroristima oko Damaska koji su mu granatirali rezdenciju...Ima on cime docekati iznoguda, ako ovaj krene sa pjesadijom i oklopom . Assadova vojska ratuje deceniju, a Turska vojska je ročna i pitanje koliko motivisana da gine u tamo nekoj bezveznoj Siriji.
Idlib nema nikakvu šansu, i onako je taj narod tamo iznuren i demotivisan i svi do jednog razmsiljaju kako da se dokopaju Njemacke da sa Frau Merkel grade multi etnicke vrijednosti.
O bolesnicima sa interneta ne bih trosio rijeci, ne bi znao koliko ima rudimentalnih budaletina da ne postoji internet,
Sto se tice snimaka masakriranja, to je izum mexickih narko kartela .To se radi da bi se protivnik demotivisao ( tj uplasio )
Medjutim , SAA je oguglala na te slike .Nista bolje ne prolazi ni onaj koga uhvati SAA.
Тихи
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turci odsecaju glave sirijskim vojnicima
Qurava Evropa i NATO cute....
Daju podrsku
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Zasto bi Turci sad radili nesto drugacije od onoga sta su radili pre 500 godina.
Geni su to, pa posle nek neko kaze da se narodi ne mogu pausalizirati.
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Boli Europu i za Sirijce i za Turke
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Bilo bi dobro kad bi se ovaj forum poštedio tih snimaka odsjecanja glava, i bez toga znamo ko je šta u stanju da uradi.
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Никад ми неће бити јасни људи, који одесецају главе другим људима ко из шале. Тако се не кроји пут за слободу, нити се доказује нешто, тј доказује се чист знак немоћи терориста да ураде нешто конкретно.
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https://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/01/21/ctw-pkg-anderson-saudi-reacts-to-beheading.cnn
To je njihova tradicija, SA odsecanjem glave izvrsava javna pogubljenja.
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Moje misljenje je da mi je sada jasnije zasto su ameri ubili iranskog generala pre dva meseca,eleminisali su coveka koji je predvidjao poteze protivnika.delimicno su povukli trupe iz iraka u siriju I pustili da se irak javno buni a istovremeno im drze finansije I irak ne moze sebi da dozvoli da im blokiraju sredstva u americi ,naime sav novac od nafte glavnog irackog proizvoda se nalazi u americi.
Onda su navukli turke da se umesaju jos vise u rat u siriji,time postizu vise ciljeva a glavni im je ekonomski,miniranje turskog toka,ruskog uticaja na bliskom istoku etc.
Cekam da se malo slegne situacija previse neproverenih informacija ima ali cisto sumnjam da su turci ubili preko 2000 sirijskih vojnika I unistili im preko 300 oklopa kao sto erdogan tvrdi.
Onda su navukli turke da se umesaju jos vise u rat u siriji,time postizu vise ciljeva a glavni im je ekonomski,miniranje turskog toka,ruskog uticaja na bliskom istoku etc.
Cekam da se malo slegne situacija previse neproverenih informacija ima ali cisto sumnjam da su turci ubili preko 2000 sirijskih vojnika I unistili im preko 300 oklopa kao sto erdogan tvrdi.
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I kadrovi iz igrica su prikazani na turskim vestima kao dejstvo bespilotbih letelica
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De Sisti kaže da je svako ko se njemu ne dopada Al Qaeda.
Znači možemo reći da je Tixi Al Qaeda jer flooduje tvitove iz 2018.
