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Kadhafi asked for help in obtaining nuclear technology from several countries, including the People's Republic of China. Among these efforts, cooperation with Pakistan launched in 1977 it seemed the time to produce material results. Libya appears to be providing financial assistance, and later delivery of uranium "yellow cake" originated in Niger in the hope that it will eventually be compensated by the weapons from Pakistan. However, in an interview to an Indian newspaper in March 1986, Kadhafi said Libya is not helping Pakistan obtain a nuclear bomb. He said: "We consider nuclear weapons a big mistake against humanity."

Libya is a major partner in the nuclear field, however, was the Soviet Union. Small (ten megawatts), Soviet-supplied reactor began operating in Tajur (outside of Tripoli) in 1981. Three years later, a research center was opened on the same site employs 750 Libyan specialists and technicians with the help of Soviet personnel. Many students were sent abroad, a group of 200 was studying in the United States until early 1983, when the United States provided training Libyans in nuclear science. As noted in media reports, however, in mid-1990 talks between Libya and Russia suggests possible renewed Russian support for the nuclear efforts of Libya in Tajur, including reconstruction and long-term maintenance.

Libya plans to buy the power station from the Soviet Union, but was dissatisfied with the technology involved, in agreement with the Belgian company Belgonucleaire to take the engineering contract and supply much of the necessary equipment. After the United States objected, fearing the use of equipment in the development of weapons, Belgium, decided in 1984 to reject the U.S. $ 1 billion contract. Shortly thereafter, Moscow's commitment to construct a 880-megawatt power plant to be located in the Sirt [Surt] region was confirmed. It was to cost more than U.S. $ 4 billion, with repayments that stretch over 15 to 18 years. In early 1986, however, plan to build nine 440-megawatt nuclear power plant was indefinitely suspended.



Since 2002, the U.S. government's assessment was that, since the suspension of UN sanctions against Libya in 1999, Libya was able to increase access to dual-use nuclear technology. Although Libya would need significant foreign assistance to acquire nuclear weapons, Tripoli's nuclear infrastructure improvement and remains a concern. Gaddafi suggested this in the 25th March 2002 interview with Al-Jazirah when he said: "We are looking for break-up of weapons of mass destruction that the Israelis, we must continue to require otherwise, the Arabs will be eligible. possess a weapon."

U.S. naval operation in October 2003 LED interdicted shipment of uranium-enrichment components bound for Libya. U.S. officials say the attack may have helped prompt Libya to its promise to dismantle weapons of mass destruction. US-led naval operation resulted in the seizure of thousands of uranium centrifuge parts, bound for Libya, the German-registered freighter in the Mediterranean. The ship was seized on the basis of intelligence that it was carrying nuclear components, and that the ban was a huge success for the Bush administration's expansion of the Security Initiative PSI. Began in early 2003, the PSI includes the United States and more than a dozen other countries are working together to prevent illegal transport, sea, land or air weapons of mass destruction materials that could end up in the hands of terrorist groups or rogue states. Source of centrifuge parts bound for Libya was discovered.

On 19 December 2003 Libya agreed to destroy all its chemical, nuclear, and biological weapons. Notice surprise after nine months of secret talks between Libyan, American and British officials. Libya has agreed to abide by the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

Shahram Chubin, director of studies at the Geneva Centre for Security Policy, believes Gaddafi is paving the way for a secure legacy for his son. "I think that Libya - and especially its leadership - it is preparing for succession, they have to admit that it makes sense that back to Libya the amount of the international community, and to do this they must ignore. With the [weapons] programs that they have many, many years, which clearly serves no purpose and the rational. I think it's recognition that Gaddafi wants to let his son succeed him and to leave Libya in a slightly better position if he gets rid of these useless weapons, they have created unnecessary mistrust and suspicion by their neighbors and, of course, the international community as a whole, including Britain and the United States, "Chubin said.

October 2003 seizure of parts of "spin" is little more than two months before the publication of a surprise 19th December that Libya, after negotiations with the United States and Britain, had agreed to dismantle its nuclear secrets and other weapons of mass-of-destruction program. Prohibition may have been a factor in the final decision of Libya to end its covert weapons effort. October ban came several months after the start of secret talks between the government of Muammar Gaddafi and the United States and Britain for weapons programs. Mr. Ereli said that shortly after the seizure, Libya agreed for the first time that experts from both countries to visit their weapons facilities.

Libya launched a dialogue in mid-March 2003, when he sought to mediate in the UK talks with the U.S. about weapons of mass destruction. A team of U.S. and British intelligence officers spent about two weeks of Libya in October and again in December 2003. During the visit, the team of American and British inspectors went to 10 sites related to Libya's nuclear efforts, along with dozens of others related to chemical and missile programs [some reports suggested that there were ten Nuclear related sites visited, while other accounts suggested that these was taken to dozens of sites for all]. Libya allowed American weapons inspectors visited the sites where they saw the centrifuges for uranium enrichment, which was more advanced than what Washington thinks. Weapons would require hundreds of centrifuges, called a cascade, that significant quantities of uranium. The inspection team saw only a few centrifuges, they saw a waterfall, and Libya denied that the enriched uranium is produced.


Libya is a signatory to nuclear non-proliferation treaty, allowing limited IAEA inspections, but now plans to sign an additional protocol to the agreement which allows more intrusive and unannounced inspections. The first meetings between Libyan officials and the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency could be the beginning of a long and complex process to verify Tripoli's nuclear ambitions. Head of nuclear agency, Mohamed ElBaradei, has opened talks on 20th December 2003 with Libya on the process of future inspections of nuclear activities of users Tripoli. Similar work was done by the UN nuclear watchdog in 1991 after South Africa announced it would voluntarily abandon nuclear weapons-program. Senior IAEA inspectors visited the country to gather information on nuclear material, the list of imports, laboratory applications and engineering facilities. They also conduct environmental sampling in the Kalahari. In the case of South Africa, the IAEA's nuclear facilities located in guarantees with regular inspection and destruction or weapons-related equipment or converted to peaceful nuclear use. It took years.

In January 2004, Saif al-Islam said Libya's Gadaffi has spent 40 million dollars on nuclear components, including centrifugal, from various black market dealers, including Pakistani scientists. Pakistani scientists get as much as $ 100 million over several years, beginning in the late 1990s.

Details of Libya's secret nuclear program emerged from a month long investigation by the U.S., UK and the UN inspectors who have obtained access to formerly secret nuclear facilities in and around Tripoli. By the end of January 2004, investigators learned that Libya was secretly received thousands of parts for gas centrifuges, as well as machine tools for making additional centrifuges. Libya has also acquired designs for making nuclear bombs. However, the key design elements are missing, and Libyan scientists lacked the expertise to assess plans or build such weapons.

Libya began purchasing components for a relatively simple gas centrifuge made mostly of aluminum, beginning in the late 1990's. After getting the parts for about 100 machines, Libya instead began to focus on sophisticated design maraging steel centrifuges. Libya has agreed to buy 10,000 of maraging steel centrifuges, enough to produce bombs even ten years. Some parts of the centrifuges came from factories built expressly for the production of nuclear components for the black market, including a possible production site in Malaysia. Libya's centrifuges are of the same design as machines used in Pakistan.

Libya has purchased a turnkey property in which the foreign supplier of parts for supplying gas centrifuges and assembly and test them. Libya's acquisition of a uranium enrichment facility capable of producing enough Heu several bombs a year.

On 27 January 2004, the U.S. plane from Libya's nuclear weapons components that country agreed to give up. The White House welcomed the cooperation of Libya and said their good faith in the dismantling of weapons will be reciprocated. It was announced several hours after the U.S. transport planes landed in the central Tennessee carries about 25 tons of weapons Libyan program components including centrifuge parts, uranium, and sensitive documents. Airlift was the most dramatic move since Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi concluded the agreement 19th December 2003 with the United States and Britain to give up weapons of mass destruction programs in an attempt to end two decades of international isolation and U.S. sanctions.
 
Pobunjenik na straži .


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An injured anti-Gaddafi fighter keeps watch along the front line near the western entrance of Ajdabiya
 
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Abdel Hafiz Goga

Libija
Pobunjenici traže oružje od Zapada

Libijski pobunjenici zatražili su danas naoružanje od država koji su priznale njihov nacionalni savjet kao tijelo koje predstavlja Libiju, izjavio je njihov portparol.


"Predali smo listu vojne i tehničke opreme koja nam je potrebna", izjavio je u Bengaziju portparol savjeta Abdel Hafiz Goga.

Na pitanje od kojih zemalja je zatražena pomoć u naoružanju, portparol je odgovorio: "Očigledno, tražili smo to od zemalja koje su već priznale nacionalni prelazni savjet kao jedinog predstavnika Libije".

Francuska, Katar i Italija priznali su pobunjenike koji kontrolišu istočni dio zemlje. Njihova ofanziva protiv snaga pukovnika Moamera Gadafija je u zastoju uprkos vazdušnim napadima borbenih aviona NATO-a na Gadafijeve snage.

Libijska artiljerija bombardovala je danas opkoljeni grad Misratu, a pobunjenici tvrde da su odbili dva odvojena napada Gadafijevih snaga.

Misrata je posljednje veće pobunjeničko uporište na zapadu Libije.

Državna televizija prenijela je danas da je u napadu NATO-a u gradu Kikli, južno od prijestonice Tripolija, poginuo veći broj civila, a Alijansa je objavila da je riječ o dezinformaciji.

Kikla se nalazi na više od 100 kilometara južno od Tripolija, a državna televizija nije saopštila više detalja o bombardovanju koje se, navodno, dogodilo juče.

(SRNA)
 
Mislim da je Libiji potrijebno puno oruzja jer ona se treba izboriti protiv jake Gadhafijeve vojske koja atakuje na ustanike.Mislim da jedino naoruzavanjem ustanika se moze promijeniti situacija na terenu i da se situacija preokrene u korist onih koji traze demokratsku Libiju koju ce priznati sve zemlje.Libija u buducnosti mora izgledati kao demokratska zemlja koja ce imati slobodu za sve i koja nece izgubiti Islamsku char zemlje u kojoj zive svi muslimani.Inace Gadhafi se zavrsio sa svojom vladavinom i on vise nije priznati lider zemlje tako da se njegova rijec vise nece postivati a ustanici traze oruzje kako bi mogli neutralisati Gadhafijeve placenike koji siju smrt i zato vjerujem da ce polsije rata Libija biti Islamska zemlja koja ce biti zemlja Islamske demokracije jer Libija je jaka zemlja koja ima kvalitetnu naftu i koja ima potencijala da bude jako razvijena drzava.Libija vise nece biti totalitarna drzava u kojoj ce odlucivati samo jedan covjek nego ce to biti drzava u kojoj ce se narod pitatti i u kojoj ce Ezani sa Munara pozivcati vjernike na molitvu jer to ce biti jedna drzava s kojom ce Amerika biti ponosna.
 
Koliko znam Gadhafi ima placenicku vojsku koja je dosla iz Chada, Nigera i Alzira tako da Libijski narod nije za Gadhafija i on zeli slobodu tako da Libijski narod nece trpjeti Gadhafijevu torturu i nece trpjeti da ih Gadhafi uci kako treba da se zivi.Libijski narod zeli slobodu i zeli da ima konstruktivno dobre odnose sa Amerikom koja ce platiti i podici Libiju na noge i koja ce obnoviti Libiju koja je stradala od rata.Amerika podrzava ustanike i to je dovoljno da se Gadhafiju poruci da mju je dzabe Srpskih pilota i podrske Radikala tako da Libijski narod zeli da raskrsti sa posljednjom karikom Milosevicevog sistema.Libija ce biti kao Saudijska Arabija i slagat ce se sa svakom odlukom Amerike.
 
NATO ne čini dovoljno da zaštiti libijske civile, uvjereni su ne samo predstavnici pobunjeničkih vlasti, već i neki od evropskih ministara koji su se danas okupili u Luksemburgu. Razlog je, po nekima, sasvim očit-odsustvo Amerike iz udarnog dijela akcije. Vojni savez sa svoje strane odgovara: sa onim što imamo, ispunjavamo svoju misiju.
http://www.voanews.com/serbian/news/LIBYA-04-12-11-119692984.html

Afička unija pozvala je libijske pobunjenike na "punu saradnju" nakon što su odbacili predlog te organizacije o prekidu vatre. Zbog preduslova Prelaznog nacionalnog saveta "u ovom trenutku nije bilo moguće postići sporazum o suštinskim pitanjima za prekid neprijateljstava", saopšteno je nakon posete predsednika više afričkih zemalja Tripoliju i Bengaziju.
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/function/0,,82224_cid_14983471,00.html
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Очигледно да се са побуњеницима манипулише и неко вуче конце са дистанце.Како другачије протумачити да их из АУ још увек позивају на ,,пуну сарадњу'' а они глупави гину а нешто се као љуте. Или су их пустили низ воду када су се прерачунали, који су интереси за неко озбиљније залагање за побуњеницима који у својим редовима имају и Ал Каидине борце и плаћенике које су Амери убацили.Изгледа да су плаћеници ухватили тутањ јер су схватили да је побуна пропала ствар.
Оваква манипулација иде само на руку Гадафију који их немилице чисти.Уосталом свака озбиљна држава би то исто учинила. То су и Амери својевремено урадили када су све побуњенике на југу САД, почистили и трепнули нису.
 
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On February 16, 2009, Gaddafi called on Libyans to back his proposal to dismantle the government and to distribute the oil wealth directly to the 5 million inhabitants of the country.
However, his plan to deliver oil revenues directly to the Libyan people met opposition by senior officials who could lose their jobs due to a parallel plan by Gaddafi to rid the state of corruption.

Some officials, including Prime Minister Al-Baghdadi, Ali Al-Mahmoudi and Farhat Omar Bin Guida, of the Central Bank, told Gaddafi that the measure could harm the country's economy in the long term due to "capital flight."

"Do not be afraid to directly redistribute the oil money and create fairer governance structures that respond to people's interests," Gaddafi said in a Popular Committee.
The Popular Committees are the backbone of Libya. Through them citizens are represented at the district level.

"The Administration has failed and the state's economy has failed. Enough is enough. The solution is for the Libyan people to directly receive oil revenues and decide what to do with them," Gaddafi said in a speech broadcast on state television. To this end, the Libyan leader urged a radical reform of government bureaucracy.

Despite this, senior Libyan government officials voted to delay Gaddafi's plans. Only 64 ministers from a total of 468 Popular Committee members voted for the measure. There were 251 who saw the measures as positive, but chose to delay their implementation.

Given the rejection of the Committee, Gaddafi affirmed before a public meeting: "My dream during all these years was to give the power and wealth directly to the people."

So...another big LIE falls by the wayside, the false image of Ghaddafi the dictator who robs from his people.

http://tinyurl.com/3vco5qd
 
CIA i Muslimanska braca uspostavili tesnu saradnju i ,, dele iste vrednosti ,, .... :D

U.S. Intelligence Agencies Find New Partners

For decades, U.S. intelligence agencies have routinely shared critical information with the covert operations organizations of such allied countries as the United Kingdom, Israel, Germany and other NATO powers. However, these “old-line” powers do not possess the deep resources of human intelligence (“humintel”) required for understanding the new Middle East, U.S. State Department analyst Lazlo Toth told Fox News Reporters yesterday. “What is more, many of those countries have agendas that are in fact at odds with the development of new, fragile democratic movements in the Middle East. The old European powers, the Israelis, none of them have a vital agenda in the emergence of popular-driven government. In fact, some of them are actively opposed to it. So we realized that we needed to find new friends in the region. And now we have found them.”

Toth explained that U.S. intelligence agencies have for the past 12 months been working with new security partners: the Egypt-based Muslim Brotherhood. “This once-controversial group, which long ago renounced the use of force, has an incredibly far-ranging web of connections,” Toth said. “Their assets extend through every Middle Eastern country, a number of nations in Asia, and even extend to a network of campus student organizations in the U.S. They have so much to offer us, now that we have won their trust,” Toth said. “It took time for us to convince some of the 'Old Guard' inside our intel agencies that we have no long-term quarrel with the Brothers,” Toth told Fox reporters. “But this administration has been unrelenting about this, making a number of transfers and forced retirements in order to clear away irrational opposition to our new approach.”

The Muslim Brotherhood shares America's concern with human rights, democratic governance, and the need for values-based political activism, Toth said. “We just needed to strongly motivate some of our senior staff in order to make them see it.”
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Американским спецслужбам, по всей видимости, около года назад пришлось, следуя указаниям Белого дома, провести полный change концепции национальной безопасности. ЦРУ и прочие структуры, десятилетиями работавшие в тесном контакте со спецслужбами стран НАТО, Израиля и ряда арабских государств, вынудили "сменить дискету", так как старые союзники якобы уже не в состоянии предоставить точную картину того, что происходит на Ближнем Востоке.

Их заменили новые соратники – "Братья-мусульмане". Это, к сожалению, не шутка. Как объяснил репортерам Fox News аналитик Госдепартамента Ласло Тот, "многие страны (старые союзники) имеют цели и задачи, противоречащие тому хрупкому и новому демократическому движению, которое происходит сейчас на Ближнем Востоке. Ни Европа, ни Израиль не заинтересованы в демократических правительствах. Фактически, они против. И мы сделали вывод: нам нужны новые друзья и партнеры на Ближнем Востоке. Мы их нашли".

Далее Ласло Тот поведал, что с новыми друзьями – "Братьями-мусульманами" Госдеп и американские спецслужбы работают уже год и сотрудничеством довольны: "Когда-то это была экстремистская группировка, но они уже давно отказались от насилия, и у них очень широкая сеть контактов, проникающая даже в американские университеты. Завоевать их доверие было нелегко, но им было что нам предложить, когда мы наконец-то стали друзьями. "Братья-мусульмане" разделяют озабоченность Америки в области прав человека и демократического управления".

Перестройка, как известно, вещь нелегкая, поэтому смена партнеров сопровождалась отсеиванием недостаточно гибко мыслящих сотрудников органов. Как объяснил Тот, "администрация Белого дома очень настаивала на этом, и пришлось отправить на пенсию тех, кто оказался не в состоянии рационально подойти к новым веяниям".

Рассказав Fox News эти удивительные вещи, Ласло Тот более не появлялся в новостях, но, по всей видимости, сказанное им не является первоапрельским розыгрышем. Еще 28 февраля руководителя Национальной разведки США Джеймса Клаппера пробило на такие же откровения, в ходе которых он сообщил, что "Братья-мусульмане" – светская в основе своей организация, которая давно отказалась от насилия и порвала связи с "Аль-Каэдой" из-за того, что там искажают ислам. Однако было бы чрезвычайно любопытно узнать, почему "светская в основе своей организация", рвет связи с другой организацией за "искажение ислама".

Если произвести всего одно маленькое допущение – предположить (основываясь, в отличие от Клаппера и Тота, на реальных фактах), что "Братья-мусульмане" – религиозная организация, которой, в силу ее целей, методов и задач, очень не повредит возможность получать крупные партии оружия и финансовые вливания "на борьбу за демократию", – то из этого следует только один вывод: Клаппера со товарищи банально водят за нос. Благо при нынешней администрации в Белом доме все меньше остается людей, способных адекватно воспринимать реальность и не считать факты чем-то призванным заморочить голову лично им и отвлечь на глупости.

Давайте же отвлечемся на факты и посмотрим на "Братьев-мусульман" и их занятия в демократическом, как полагают Клаппер и его коллеги, Египте. Именно эта организация последний месяц внедряет в стране "полицию скромности", аналогичную той, что ходит по улицам Саудовской Аравии, убеждаясь, что женщины и мужчины одеты скромно и ведут себя в соответствии с нормами фундаментального ислама. Далее: при полной поддержке и одобрении той же организации было совершено не менее 20 нападений на гробницы исламских мистиков – суфиев, которых почитают в народе, но которых не признают исламские фундаменталисты. Специалист по политологии Американского университета в Каире Майе Кассем заявил изданию "Медиа Лайн", что "эта тенденция очень беспокоит многих египтян. Фундаменталисты в Египте всегда были маргиналами и действовали в подполье, а сейчас они набирают реальную политическую силу".

Коптский адвокат Наджиб Джибраил, глава Египетского совета по правам человека, заявил той же "Медиа Лайн", что египетская революция "захвачена исламскими фундаменталистами". "Есть районы в Египте, – добавил он, – где христианская девушка не может выйти из дома после восьми вечера, потому что ее могут похитить. Но умеренные мусульмане должны беспокоиться даже больше нас, христиан. Обратите внимание на то, что военные власти страны все еще не объявили Египет светским государством".

Аналитиков, которых уже не возьмут в Госдеп и спецслужбы США, немало беспокоит факт того, что предвыборный референдум, прошедший в Египте по поводу внесения поправок в конституцию, был по сути выигран "Братьями", добившимися отнюдь не демократических перемен. Причем народ подгоняли к голосовательным урнам лозунгами о необходимости укрепления в Египте религиозной власти. Можно упомянуть еще десятки различных фактов такого рода, но это уже не изменит сложившейся ситуации с партнерством "Братьев" и американских властей.

Что еще вытекает из утверждения о том, что американские спецслужбы уже год работают в тандеме с "Братьями"? Предположение, что египетская революция является совсем не такой спонтанной и народной, как нам пытаются показать. Получается, что проамериканского Хосни Мубарака свалили совместными усилиями американское разведсообщество и его новые "секулярные" партнеры – "Братья-мусульмане"? Выбирая из двух зол меньшее, хотелось бы верить, что именно первые воспользовались вторыми. Но, по всей видимости, ситуация является обратной.

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Mislim da to nije tacno da Libijci puse hasis jer to nije dozvoljeno u islamu jer to je u Islamu haram (zabranjeno) tako da sigurno Libijski muslimani ne puse travu i ne koriste opijate.Oni zele samo jedno a to je slobodu i demokratsku drzavu koja ce biti u tijesnoj suradnji sa Sjedinjenim Americkim Drzavama.Libija ce uspjeti ako se bude izgradila kao demokratska drzava jer ce Amerika ulagati u Libiju i Libija moze postati jednom jako bogatom zemljom od koje ce najvece korisiti imati narod Libije.Inace narodom Libije nece vladati jedan covjek nego ce vladati predsjednik koji ce biti izabran voljom naroda.Vjerujem da ce Amerika naoruzati pobunjenike i da ce pobunjenici smoci snage da odbiju Gadhafijevu ofanzivu i da uzvrate udarac tako da se nadam da ce suikobi9 potrajati i da ce se voditi bitka sve dok se Tripoli ne bude oslobodio.
 
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