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Da se ne lazemo - cak i da Gadafijeve trupe brzo uspeju da se razracunaju sa pobunjenicima, za koje sam sad 75% siguran da su fundamentalisti, i da konsoliduju trupe u ocekivanju iskrcavanja americkih trupa posle pripreme iz vazduha, sve sto bi uspeli bi bilo da ih odbiju nazad na desantne brodove ili makar ogranice na mostobrane koji bi bili 'labavi'. U tom slucaju bi se razvukla vazdusna kampanja i rat bi se produzio do iscrpljenja jedne od strana; a posto znamo da je Amerima zapelo posto-poto za naftu, pitanje nije DA LI, vec KADA ce Libija biti okupirana. Oni su jednostavno odlucili da udju i uci ce, ali pre toga bi im trebalo raz**bati barem dobar broj vojske i tehnike.

Нисам сигуран да су већ одлучили да окупирају Либију. Без марионетског режима на терену то је врло компликовано због међународних односа, за међународно право их и овако није одавно брига. Ту пре свега мислим на односе између Русије и САД-а који могу захладити уколико се Либија окупира. Американцима не треба то у овом тренутку, добар део снабдевања трупа у Авганистану иде преко руских база, а то је сигурнији пут него преко Пакистана. А у Авганистану је рат на прекратници - не треба пуно па да Амери тамо остану само са својим "пудлицама" Енглезима и још понеким слабијим савезником. Зато треба елиминисати и неутралисати петоколонаше што пре. Па зар немамо довољно сопственог искуства!?:dash: УЖАС!
 
Pa kako onda uspevaju da kontrolišu desetak revolucija?:hahaha::rotf:

Sam sebe pokopavaš glupošću.:hahaha:
Pa lako. Amerika i Britanija su pre 30 godina kreirale i nametnule društveni model koji se, u stvari, krajnje pojednostavljeno rečeno, temelji na kontroli bogatstva drugih, tačnije na pljački drugih država. Obično se taj model naziva globalizacijom. Taj model je prihvatila i EU ali ne za sebe, svoje članice poput Nemačke , Francuske..., nego ga je nametala drugima, pre svega zemljama novim članicama i onima koji bi želeli da postanu deo tog evropskog kluba.
 
Opozicija napreduje na svim frontovima.


Svedoci tvrde da je opozicija zauzela Ras Lanuf


05. mart 2011. 12:42 (Beta-AP)


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Protivnici libijskog režima zauzeli su danas lučki grad Ras Lanuf, posle sinoćnjih žestokih okršaja sa snagama lojalnim lideru te zemlje Moameru Gadafiju koje su napustile grad, navode neimenovani očevici . Agencija AP javila je da se na naftnim postrojenjima tog grada vijore libijske zastave iz vremena pre Gadafijevog dolaska na vlast i perioda monarhije koje koriste pobunjenici protiv režima. Ras Lanuf, vazna naftna luka na istoku zemlje, udaljena je oko 140 kilometara od Gadafijevog uporišta Sirta. Agencije su prethodno javile da je sinoć u sukobima u Ras Lanufu, najmanje osam ljudi poginulo, a više od 20 ih je ranjeno.

Pripadnici opozicije pljačkaju naftne kompanije u Ras Lanufu:

RAS LANUF, Libya (Reuters) – The offices of Harouge Oil Operations in Ras Lanuf, a key oil terminal, were abandoned on Saturday after rebels won control of the eastern Libyan town.

Rebels have seized most of eastern Libya, the main oil producing region in the OPEC member, from Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi. But many oil facilities are idle or working at well below capacity.

Some rebels commandeered vehicles from the Harouge facility in Ras Lanuf.

“We have a right to these cars and more. Gaddafi stole from the people and now the people are taking it back,” said one armed looter, Nasr al-Abdili, who was taking a pick-up truck.

Oil sources said refining operations and exports of crude by firms operating in the town, including units or ventures with the state-owned National Oil Corp (NOC), had ground to a halt over previous days because of unrest and supply problems.

One man in civilian clothes, who refused to comment, was in a security booth at the Harouge site. He was not stopping anyone from entering. One worker said the firm was usually staffed round the clock but fighting had driven employees away.

Inside the buildings, computers were switched on and a coffee maker was still running, but no one was about. Outside, four people, including Abdili, helped themselves to vehicles. They took two pick ups and a mechanical digger.

An oil worker, who asked not to be named, said of the looting: “I work here. It’s a shame what’s happened, this is the Libyan people’s.”
“They’ve stolen more than 300 4x4s and broken into some offices. Usually there’s lots of people here, a 24-hour operation. They’re not here because of the fighting,” he said.

Rebels were seen driving oil company vehicles around the town of Ras Lanuf.
 
Da ali, USA hoce da napravi od Libije tri drzave,

najmanja od njih bi bila Tripolitanija.

Dok bi USA firme i dalje posredovale u prodaji sirove nafte diljem Severne Afrike i Bliskog istoka!!

Asošijeted Press:

"Srpska municija ubija Libijsku decu"

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...4P8zBw?docId=838a52390f7b4ee687a0246ab350b029

Serbia, arms dealer to Libya, silent on rebellion

(AP) – 2 hours ago

BELGRADE, Serbia (AP) — As Libya churned with popular rebellion, Serbia's ex-president flew to Tripoli to arrange an interview with Moammar Gadhafi for a Serbian TV channel — giving the Libyan leader a platform to bluster about his grip on power.

"The Libyan people are fully behind me," Gadhafi defiantly told Pink TV in a telephone interview.

The gesture of support for Gadhafi was not officially endorsed by the Serbian government. But it has been criticized at home for failing to join worldwide condemnation of Gadhafi's bloody crackdown against the uprising.

A possible reason for the silence: hundreds of millions of dollars worth of military and construction contracts. Serbia's cozy ties with Libya sit ill with its recent efforts to rehabilitate its image after the Balkan wars, in particular by participating in peace keeping missions.

It's almost certain that some of the ammunition fired by Gadhafi's troops against pro-democracy protesters in Libya was made in Serbia, and that some of the air force pilots who targeted rebel-held positions were trained by Serbs.

Western nations like Britain and Italy have armed and cooperated with Gadhafi's regime, but the issue is particularly sensitive for Serbia as it tries to join the European Union and possibly NATO and shed its image as a pariah nation.

"Serbia and former Yugoslavia had exposed themselves to a political risk with the defense deals with controversial regimes like in Libya," said military analyst Sasa Radic.

During the 1970s and 80s Yugoslavia's defense industry struck several export deals with nations in Asia, North Africa, and the Middle East, including Saddam Hussein's Iraq, which made the Balkan country one of the top 10 arms exporters in the world.

The trade collapsed when Yugoslavia itself disintegrated in the 1990s. But it has been picking up in recent years, particularly in Serbia, which retains the Balkans' largest defense industry.

A liberal Serb group has demanded that Belgrade stop arming the Gadhafi regime, even as Serbia's defense ministry claims it has suspended all ties with the Libyan military since the uprising began.

And while the government supplied arms Gadhafi likely used against his people, the leaders of a youth movement that toppled Serb dictator Slobodan Milosevic in 2000 have supplied Middle East protesters with inspiration, and in some cases advice.

Veterans of Serbia's Otpor movement went on to create an organization that trains would-be rebels in the art of peaceful revolution. They trained one of the main youth groups at the center of Egypt's revolution, and believe that influenced the Libyan rebellion.

"It is likely that some Libyan youth groups got the idea on how to oust Gadhafi from the Egyptian activists whom we have trained," said former Otpor leader Srdja Popovic.

Serbia's Defense Ministry also rejected Arab media reports that Serb "mercenaries" had piloted Libyan jets that bombed protesters in the eastern city of Benghazi.

Gadhafi said in his interview with Pink TV that "the Arab media tried to bribe (the Serbs) to say that they bombed the civilians."

The Serbian military has been working hard in recent years to improve its tarnished image.

During the Balkan wars in the 1990s, scores of Serbs were found guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity. But in recent years, the army's reformist leadership has sought to change that image by offering to participate in international peacekeeping operations in Africa, the Middle East and Asia.

But that's an uneasy fit with Serbia's close dealings with Libya.

Serbian companies recently reached tentative deals to build, equip and staff a military hospital in Libya, as well as to continue training Libyan air force pilots and to overhaul and maintain some 120 warplanes sold by the former Yugoslavia in the 1970s and 80s.

"The former Yugoslavia and Serbia have a long history of cooperation with Gadhafi's military, of which selling the know-how played a major role," Radic said.

Slobodan Lekic contributed to this report from Brussels.

Copyright © 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
 
Pripadnici opozicije pljačkaju naftne kompanije u Ras Lanufu:


Već više puta sam se uverio u verodostojnost tekstova koje postavljaš.

Ti bi postavio test za koji si siguran da je laž samo ako ti odgovara,
dok ja to nikada ne bih uradio.

To je jednako pošteno kao tvoja izjava "Toma namerno i svesno laže narod
da bi došao na vlast" i rekao si da podržavaš to.

Pametnom dosta.:cool:
 
Poslednja izmena:
Asošijeted Press:

"Srpska municija ubija Libijsku decu"

Ko uopste veruje u njihove lazi ..... Nase postavke oruzja i municije su kap u moru ...



СМИ: Германия поставляла Ливии вооружения на миллионные суммы

Германия в период с 2005 по 2009 год поставила Ливии вооружений на общую сумму 83,5 млн евро. Только в 2009 году объем поставок составил 53,2 млн евро. Ливии были поставлены внедорожники, вертолеты, средства связи и оборудование для их глушения, а также радары. Об этом сообщает в субботу, 5 марта, газета Saarbrücker Zeitung, ссылаясь на официальный ответ правительства на запрос фракции Левой партии в бундестаге.

Evo podataka za Nemce - oni su samo u 2009 prodali oruzja za 53 miliona evra , i to sofisticiranog ... .. i niko ne pise tako u Nemackoj ...

Da mi nismo prodali i one francuske avione ... :eek:
 
Poslednja izmena:
Pa lako. Amerika i Britanija su pre 30 godina kreirale i nametnule društveni model koji se, u stvari, krajnje pojednostavljeno rečeno, temelji na kontroli bogatstva drugih, tačnije na pljački drugih država. Obično se taj model naziva globalizacijom. Taj model je prihvatila i EU ali ne za sebe, svoje članice poput Nemačke , Francuske..., nego ga je nametala drugima, pre svega zemljama novim članicama i onima koji bi želeli da postanu deo tog evropskog kluba.


Jao stvarno, opljačkaše nas Evropljani i Amerikanci a ne domaći tajkuni.:roll:
 
Jao stvarno, opljačkaše nas Evropljani i Amerikanci a ne domaći tajkuni.:roll:
Ko je nametnuo Srbiji ekonomski model, neoliberalne ekonomije takozvani Vašingtonski konsenzus i MMF? Privatizaciju, liberalizaciju...Svakoj zemlji se nameće ovakav model ekonomije sa namernom pogrešnom preraspodelom bogatstva Najveći deo tog bogastva završava u rukama malog broja ljudi okupljenih oko vrha vlasti - tajkuna, koji su istovremeno i garanti da neka zemlja ostaje na američkoj liniji. Samo teško ti to možeš da razumeš, nisi u stanju, niti hoćeš
 
Već više puta sam se uverio u verodostojnost tekstova koje postavljaš.

Ti bi postavio test za koji si siguran da je laž samo ako ti odgovara,
dok ja to nikada ne bih uradio.
To je jednako pošteno kao tvoja izjava "Toma namerno i svesno laže narod
da bi došao na vlast" i rekao si da podržavaš to.

Pametnom dosta.:cool:
Дакле у каквим ти самоубеђењима живиш!!!
:hahaha::zcepanje::rotf:
 
Bolje reci "srpska demokratska municija",

tupavi Shutanovac se hvalio da ce da profitira od nemira u Severnoj Africi,

eto mu sada!!

Neki zutokljunac iz Brisela je ovo napisao:

Slobodan Lekic contributed to this report from Brussels.

U jaka stvar. PA šta??? I treba da profitiramo. To je naše pravo, jer nam je industrija oružja dobra i konkurentna. Šta treba Šutanovac da radi, da se pravi glup i navija javno za Gadafija. Ajde ćuti bre, bolje mi da profitiramo, nego neko drugi...
 
Verovatno je još uvek nisu uočili Fejsbukovci, ali kada je vide će da gori.:per:



PS. Nemoj izgubiti iz vida, da su se do nedavno vodile borbe u gradu.

Ало ћорави - у клипу који си поставио се види да је у питању ВОЈСКА... а ево твојих побуњеника... да није тужно било би смешно:

 
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