Rat u Gruziji

Победоносцев:
Ljudi vi niste svesni toga da je Sakasviliju u dolasku na vlast pomogao nas narodni pokret Otpor.

Ja mislim da je on jedna nasa velika tekovina, skoro pa kao peti oktobar, i da moramo svim silama da ga odbranimo od retrogradnih sila.
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Jeste ima neki taliban na b92 sajtu i svoju rubrikicu o ratu u Gruziji.
Jedan od aktivnih uchesnika otporashkog uoblichavanja buduceg gorbara svih Gruzijaca Sakashvilija:mrgreen:
Al kao,nije znao nije verovao...oni su ga dobro poduchavali on ispa diktator.
 
Brzezinski: Putin like Hitler and Stalin

Zbigniew Brzezinski knows his history:

Unfortunately, Putin is putting Russia on a course that is ominously similar to Stalin's and Hitler's in the late 1930s. Swedish foreign minister Carl Bildt has correctly drawn an analogy between Putin's "justification" for dismembering Georgia -- because of the Russians in South Ossetia -- to Hitler's tactics vis a vis Czechoslovakia to "free" the Sudeten Deutsch.

Even more ominous is the analogy of what Putin is doing vis-a-vis Georgia to what Stalin did vis-a-vis Finland: subverting by use of force the sovereignty of a small democratic neighbor. In effect, morally and strategically, Georgia is the Finland of our day.

For historians, the first mystery will be how the Russians threw away their long-awaited freedom. The second mystery will be how the Europeans did nothing about it.
 
HITLER INVADED SUDETENLAND; NOW PUTIN INVADES SOUTH OSSETIA
By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

On October 3, 1938, Adolf Hitler's armies marched into Sudetenland, a part of Czechoslovakia. Germany said it was responding to separatist demands from the large German population that lived there and that she was merely honoring their desire for reunion with Germany. Hitler's tanks took over a vital part of an independent country that had largely rejected his overtures and allied itself with the West. Neither Britain nor France nor the United States did a thing to stop him.

On August 7, 2008, Vladimir Putin's armies marched into South Ossetia, a part of Georgia. Russia said it was responding to separatist demands from the large Russian population that lived there and that she was merely honoring their desire for reunion with Russia. Putin's tanks took over a vital part of an independent country that had largely rejected his overtures and allied itself with the West. Neither Britain nor France nor the United States did a thing to stop him.

Encouraged by his occupation of Sudetenland, Hitler continued his designs on Czechoslovakia itself and invaded the rest of the nation a few months later.

Will history continue to repeat itself?

Georgia is one of the two countries that have split off from the old Soviet Union and most firmly reached out to the West. Now Putin is testing whether the west will respond to an overt Russian military attack on a part of Georgia, doubtless paving the way for a full scale invasion, perhaps in the coming days. One immediate Russian move would be to use its new found military leverage to force Georgia to give up Abkhazia, another province with a large Russian population.

Russia has encouraged migration by ethnic Russians into its satellite empire ever since Stalin's days and now is using the provinces with large Russian populations to foment discord in nations that lean to the West.

The United States and the European Union must not turn away at this crucial moment in history. The U.S. should take visible steps to bolster Georgia, including the dispatch of supplies, materials, and other manifestations of our determination not to let this nation be invaded.

Russia's goal in this imperialism is to intimidate any nation on its borders into rejecting overtures from the west and to try to prove that the west will offer no real protection against Russian military designs.

NATO should speed consideration of Georgia's application for admission and should extend its security umbrella to include the struggling democracy.

If the United States appeases Russia now, it will pay the same price British Prime Minister Nevelle Chamberlain paid in the 1930s. This invasion must not be allowed to stand or, at the very least, it must be contained to South Ossetia and not allowed to lap over into the rest of Georgia.
 
Derer:
Jeste ima neki taliban na b92 sajtu i svoju rubrikicu o ratu u Gruziji.
Jedan od aktivnih uchesnika otporashkog uoblichavanja buduceg gorbara svih Gruzijaca Sakashvilija:mrgreen:
Al kao,nije znao nije verovao...oni su ga dobro poduchavali on ispa diktator.
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Neverovatno kakve su stipse u CIA, cak nisu hteli ni da daju pare da se smisli drugi logo nego sve reciklirali!

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WTF??:
Brzezinski: Putin like Hitler and Stalin

Zbigniew Brzezinski knows his history:

Unfortunately, Putin is putting Russia on a course that is ominously similar to Stalin's and Hitler's in the late 1930s. Swedish foreign minister Carl Bildt has correctly drawn an analogy between Putin's "justification" for dismembering Georgia -- because of the Russians in South Ossetia -- to Hitler's tactics vis a vis Czechoslovakia to "free" the Sudeten Deutsch.

Even more ominous is the analogy of what Putin is doing vis-a-vis Georgia to what Stalin did vis-a-vis Finland: subverting by use of force the sovereignty of a small democratic neighbor. In effect, morally and strategically, Georgia is the Finland of our day.

For historians, the first mystery will be how the Russians threw away their long-awaited freedom. The second mystery will be how the Europeans did nothing about it.
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Јел то онај са пребивалиштем у USA?
Пих...
 
The Devil and Mr. Putin
Editorial of The New York Sun | January 5, 2005

Is President Putin's Russia the new Weimar Republic - a transitional entity that must succumb to authoritarianism through economic failure and humiliation over loss of great power status? This thesis was advocated on these pages earlier this week by Harvard historian Niall Ferguson, who cited Mr. Putin's meddling in the Ukrainian election, his support for separatist movements in Georgia and Moldova, his control of the three largest Russian television channels, and his effective destruction of the energy giant Yukos, the company that most closely matched up to Western standards of accountability and transparency.

There are many reasons to be concerned by the direction of Mr. Putin's Russia. That said, the current boss of the Kremlin is no Gustav Stresemann - the conservative nationalist leader of post-Wilhelmine Germany who did much to extricate the Republic from its post-Versailles straitjacket - let alone an Adolf Hitler. Mr. Putin's definition of the interests of his country seems rather slender by comparison: reconsolidation of influence in the former Soviet Union proper and reconstitution of that zone as a usable economic space for unreformed post-communist "enterprises."

Once this is achieved, few are suggesting that Comrade Putin would inevitably move onto the next target such as Poland or Slovakia, impelled by an ideology of Slavic racial supremacy. If nothing else, he is too keen on good relations with America and the nations of the European Union for that. Even if he fails in his attempt to pull Ukraine back into the Russian orbit, as appears likely following the victory of the reformist Viktor Yuschenko, the result within Muscovite political circles is not likely to be the emergence of some hyper chauvinistic imperator. On the contrary, it may well be a far more moderate figure who has imbibed the lesson of Mr. Putin's clumsy and ill-judged interference in the internal affairs of her largest westerly neighbor.

The analogy between the descent to malignant caesarism of the Nazi era from the highly imperfect Weimar-like polity works best if one believes that the Russia of the Yeltsin era was a genuine democracy. Actually, though, in most oblasts of the federation, there was a plunge into anarcho-despotism under the aegis of organized crime. Mr Putin initially brought greater stability, but was unable to see his reforms through a recalcitrant bureaucracy. Essentially, he then made his peace with the most corrupt elements and now seems not to worry if they impoverish their own regions just so long as they are loyal to the existing system.

Confronted with an unmanageable set of circumstances, he has reverted to a sort of default position from the Soviet epoch: define national security as a zero-sum game, in which any gain for Russia's neighbors must perforce be at her own expense. As James Sherr of the Conflict Studies Research Center at Sandhurst has observed, this communist mental equipment means that he is ill-suited to understand the "Orange Revolution" in Ukraine. He and his associates regard politics as basically a matter of relations between elites who create networks of understanding rather than treating civil society as an independent entity.

Understanding Mr. Putin does not mean condoning him. The current administration seems to have done the reverse: condoned without understanding. This is similar to its approach to President Musharraf of Pakistan. What can be said for the administration is that it views all of this complex thicket of motivations and actions through the single prism of the war on terrorism. And that's not a bad prisom through which to view Russia. It reminds us of Churchill's famous line about how if Hitler invaded Hell he would find it in himself to make in the Commons a positive reference to the Devil, which is about as far as it was prudent to go.

Lepo su ljudi sve unapred analizirali, josh 2005.
 
Poslednja izmena:
WTF??:
HITLER INVADED SUDETENLAND; NOW PUTIN INVADES SOUTH OSSETIA
By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

On October 3, 1938, Adolf Hitler's armies marched into Sudetenland, a part of Czechoslovakia. Germany said it was responding to separatist demands from the large German population that lived there and that she was merely honoring their desire for reunion with Germany. Hitler's tanks took over a vital part of an independent country that had largely rejected his overtures and allied itself with the West. Neither Britain nor France nor the United States did a thing to stop him.

On August 7, 2008, Vladimir Putin's armies marched into South Ossetia, a part of Georgia. Russia said it was responding to separatist demands from the large Russian population that lived there and that she was merely honoring their desire for reunion with Russia. Putin's tanks took over a vital part of an independent country that had largely rejected his overtures and allied itself with the West. Neither Britain nor France nor the United States did a thing to stop him.

Encouraged by his occupation of Sudetenland, Hitler continued his designs on Czechoslovakia itself and invaded the rest of the nation a few months later.

Will history continue to repeat itself?

Georgia is one of the two countries that have split off from the old Soviet Union and most firmly reached out to the West. Now Putin is testing whether the west will respond to an overt Russian military attack on a part of Georgia, doubtless paving the way for a full scale invasion, perhaps in the coming days. One immediate Russian move would be to use its new found military leverage to force Georgia to give up Abkhazia, another province with a large Russian population.

Russia has encouraged migration by ethnic Russians into its satellite empire ever since Stalin's days and now is using the provinces with large Russian populations to foment discord in nations that lean to the West.

The United States and the European Union must not turn away at this crucial moment in history. The U.S. should take visible steps to bolster Georgia, including the dispatch of supplies, materials, and other manifestations of our determination not to let this nation be invaded.

Russia's goal in this imperialism is to intimidate any nation on its borders into rejecting overtures from the west and to try to prove that the west will offer no real protection against Russian military designs.

NATO should speed consideration of Georgia's application for admission and should extend its security umbrella to include the struggling democracy.

If the United States appeases Russia now, it will pay the same price British Prime Minister Nevelle Chamberlain paid in the 1930s. This invasion must not be allowed to stand or, at the very least, it must be contained to South Ossetia and not allowed to lap over into the rest of Georgia.
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Која просе*авања.
Добро.
А где је хронологија између Судети 1930. и Осетија 2008. (Вијетнам, Ирак, Сомалија, Босна, Косово, опет Ирак... ...)
 
WTF?
Dosadan si vise sa tom trulom propagandom...

Ne razlikuje se nista od one kada su Klintona izjednacavali sa Hitlerom, a od NATO znaka pravili kukacu, i vukli razne analogije kada je nas bombardovao

Cak tu ima vise elementa, a sad
FO
 
Москва: умиротворения агрессора не будет

Российская сторона направила в понедельник ноту протеста в МИД Грузии о незаконном удержании граждан России - более 350 человек не могут покинуть республику. Проблемы, связанные с ущемлением прав граждан в результате военных действий, развязанных Грузией в Южной Осетии, президент Медведев обсудил с представителями силовых структур, а также исполнительной и законодательной власти страны. http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=200233&cid=1
 
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