Raspad SFRJ - hronologija

Ko je najveći krivac za raspad SFR Jugoslavije?

  • Nestanak komunizma u Evropi.

    glasova: 11 23,9%
  • Srpska politika.

    glasova: 6 13,0%
  • Hrvatska politika.

    glasova: 10 21,7%
  • Slovenačka politika.

    glasova: 1 2,2%
  • Politika svih republika SFR Jugoslavije.

    glasova: 17 37,0%
  • Niko nije kriv, sudbina.

    glasova: 1 2,2%

  • Ukupno glasova
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Confession of a CIA Agent: They gave us millions to dismember Yugoslavia​

We bribed parties and politicians who have enticed hate between the nations. Our ultimate goal was to enslave you!

Thursday, 26 November 2015


49


WebTribune publishes their interview with former CIA agent Robert Baer during his promotion tour in Quebec for upcoming book “Secrets of the White House” last week.

In the interests of disclosure, this article is a translation of one published in the WebTribune. Britić has contacted publicists for Robert Baer to try to establish the veracity of what is claimed but so far we have yet to receive a response. Moreover, the book which Baer is claimed to have publicised entitled “Secrets of the White House” is not yet available to buy. Indeed, the very same book had been claimed to be published three years ago. Could the interview be nothing more than respun disinformation? We’ll keep you in touch as Baer’s publicists get in touch!

robert-baer

My boss, who was formerly a US Senator, stressed repeatedly that some kind of scam would go down in Bosnia. A month before the alleged genocide in Srebrenica, he told me that the town would be headline news around the world and ordered us to call the media.
Robert Baer, a former CIA officer, has authored many books which disclosed the secrets of both the CIA and the administrations of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. He has been arrested and detained several times. Mitt Waspurh, a personal friend who worked at the Senate and shared information was killed at gunpoint. As a senior CIA operative, Baer worked in Yugoslavia during the 1991-94 period and in the Middle East. He has worked on several documentaries on National Geographic, accusing the Bush administration of waging war for oil.

The interview was conducted live in Canada, during my trip a few days ago. Robert Baer is currently promoting his book “The Secrets of the White House” in Quebec, where we talked. In an interview we spoke of the background of the war in Yugoslavia.

Where and when was your first job in Yugoslavia?

I arrived by helicopter with three agents. We landed on 12 January 1991 in Sarajevo. Our job was to keep an eye on alleged terrorists of Serbian nationality, who were expected to attack Sarajevo.

Who were the terrorists in question and why were they supposed to carry out these attacks?

They gave us files about a group called “Supreme Serbia” detailing plans to conduct a series of bomb attacks on key buildings in Sarajevo in opposition to Bosnia’s ambition to leave former Yugoslavia.

Did that group ever exist and what exactly you were doing in Sarajevo under CIA command?

No such group ever existed! Our headquarters lied to us. Our mission was to alarm and spread panic among politicians in Bosnia, simply to fill their heads with the idea that Serbs would attack. To begin with, we accepted the story, but after a while we started to wonder. Why were we raising such hysteria when the group clearly did not exist?

How and when did the mission end and did it have a name?

For me it ended after two weeks, I landed a new job in Slovenia. The operation lasted a month and had the name “Istina” (i.e. “truth”) although it was anything but!

Why did you go to Slovenia?

I received instructions that Slovenia was ready to declare independence. We were given money, a few million dollars, to fund various NGOs, opposition parties and various politicians who have inflamed hatred.

Did you have an opinion about the CIA propaganda and did your colleagues think?

Of course, no one turns down a CIA mission, especially when we were all nervous and prone to paranoia! Many CIA agents and senior officers disappeared simple because they refused to conduct propaganda against the Serbs in Yugoslavia. Personally I was shocked at the dose of lies being fed from our agencies and politicians! Many CIA agents were directed propaganda without being aware of what they are doing. Everyone knew just a fraction of the story and only the one who create the whole story knew the background – they are politicians.

So there was only propaganda against the Serbs?

Yes and no. The aim of the propaganda was to divide the republics so they would break away from the motherland Yugoslavia. We had to choose a scapegoat who would be blamed for everything. Someone who would be responsible for the war and violence. Serbia was chosen because in some ways it is a successor to Yugoslavia.

Can you name the politicians in the former Yugoslavia were paid by the CIA?

Yes, although it is somewhat delicate. Stipe Mesic, Franjo Tudjman, Alija Izetbegovic, many counselors and members of the government of Yugoslavia, were paid as were Serbian generals, journalists and even some military units. Radovan Karadzic was being paid for a while but stopped accepting help when he realised he would be sacrificed and charged with war crimes committed in Bosnia. It was directed by the American administration.

You mentioned that the media was controlled and funded, how exactly did that happen?

This is already known, some CIA agents were responsible for writing the official statement that the announcers read on the news. Of course the news presenters were oblivious to it, they got the news from their boss and he got it from our man. Everyone had the same mission: to spread hatred, nationalism and the differences between people through television.

We all know of Srebrenica, can you say about it?

Yes! In 1992 I was in Bosnia again, but this time we were supposed to train military units to represent Bosnia, a new state that had just declared independence. Srebrenica is an exaggerated story and unfortunately many people are being manipulated. The number of victims is the same as the number of Serbs and others killed but Srebrenica is political marketing. My boss, who was formerly a US Senator, stressed repeatedly that some kind of scam would go down in Bosnia. A month before the alleged genocide in Srebrenica, he told me that the town would be headline news around the world and ordered us to call the media. When I asked why, he said you’ll see. The new Bosnian army got the order to attack homes and civilians. These were of course citizens of Srebrenica. At the same moment, the Serbs attacked from the other side. Probably someone had paid to incite them!

Then who is guilty of genocide in Srebrenica?

Srebrenica should be blamed on Bosnians, Serbs and Americans – that is us! But in fact everything has been blamed on the Serbs. Unfortunately, many of the victims buried as Muslims were Serbs and other nationalities. A few years ago a friend of mine, a former CIA agent and now at the IMF, said that Srebrenica is the product of agreement between the US government and politicians in Bosnia. The town of Srebrenica was sacrificed to give America a motive to attack the Serbs for their alleged crimes.

Ultimately why do you think Yugoslavia collapsed and why did your government want to do it?

It is all very clear, the people who incited the war and dictated the terms of the peace now own the companies that exploit various mineral resources and the like! They simply made slaves of you, your people work for nothing and that produce goes to Germany and America…they are the winners! You will eventually have to purchase and import what you have created yourself, and since you have no money, you have to borrow, that’s the whole story with the whole of the Balkans!

You were never in Kosovo as a CIA agent, but did you feel any pressure from America?

Of course! Kosovo has taken for two reasons, first because of mineral and natural resources, and secondly, Kosovo is a military base of NATO! In the heart of Europe is their largest military base.

Do you have a message for the people of the former Yugoslavia?

I have. Forget the past, it was staged and false. They manipulated you, they got what they wanted and it is stupid that you still hate one another, you must show that you are stronger and you realise who has created this ! I sincerely apologise! That’s why I have for a long time disclosed the secrets of the CIA and the White House!
 
Tihi, to je samo prevod sa srpskog na engleski.

Uzmi knjige Baera ili poslušaj šta on sam priča. Ono što Baer tvrdi je upravo suprotno od toga što ti govoriš. On glorifikuje CIA kao jednu od najcivilizovanijih obaveštajnih službi na svetu.


Evo, ovo je sa snimka koji si ti podelio u uvodu.

Postavio sam ti i tačan sekund. Baer kaže da se CIA ne bavi ubistvima ljudi, da kad se učlanjuješ u CIA potpisuješ jasno sporazum da ne smeš nikada nikoga lišiti života i da se, o kome god da se radi, izlažeš kriminalnom gonjenju zato što je ubistvo zločin. Takođe, me smeš čak ni kolokvijalno sa strankama izvan organizacije da pričaš o fizičkoj eliminaciji ljudi. To je najstrože zabranjeno i tada su instrukcije, da čim ubistvo ma koga god na svetu postane tema, moraš odmah da prekineš sve kontakte.

On kaže da su zadnji put pokušali da ubiju Fidela Kastra 1960-ih godina i da to nije uopšte ni bila ozbiljna operacija, ali da su svakako izvukli pouke iz toga i da se CIA zadnjih 70 godina, od zadnjeg pokušaja ubistva Kastra, ne bavi ugrožavanjem života ljudi bilo direktno bilo indirektno.

Baerove knjige su sve čistopis CIA cenzure i to što on priča je vrlo jasno, da kažemo, zvanična američka istina. U svim njenim formatima. I on uglavnom glorifikuje (pored, naravno, tu i tamo neke kritike - na račun drugih struktura u Americi, a ne CIA) ulogu i SAD i CIA u svetu. I po njemu je CIA jedna vrlo pacifistička organizacija u tom smislu.

Бајке за лаку ноћ , хуманитарна организација ЦИА
 
Они су већ били уплашени од поновног затварања и није било тешко да се додатно заврбују
I to...

Ali, to i dalje ne opravdava druge koji su ih pratili...

Ah. Ta krv...

Sad se igram nešto sa bing prevodice, i sa crnogorskog ćirilicom sam napisao Зашто i na bosanskom stavio prevod Zato... Zato je što su ljudi bezumni kad nađu bezumne da ih vode...
Iako Srce je... srce.

Slavenska zna šta je um, ali da li ti znaš?
 

Confession of a CIA Agent: They gave us millions to dismember Yugoslavia​

We bribed parties and politicians who have enticed hate between the nations. Our ultimate goal was to enslave you!

Thursday, 26 November 2015


49


WebTribune publishes their interview with former CIA agent Robert Baer during his promotion tour in Quebec for upcoming book “Secrets of the White House” last week.

In the interests of disclosure, this article is a translation of one published in the WebTribune. Britić has contacted publicists for Robert Baer to try to establish the veracity of what is claimed but so far we have yet to receive a response. Moreover, the book which Baer is claimed to have publicised entitled “Secrets of the White House” is not yet available to buy. Indeed, the very same book had been claimed to be published three years ago. Could the interview be nothing more than respun disinformation? We’ll keep you in touch as Baer’s publicists get in touch!

robert-baer


Robert Baer, a former CIA officer, has authored many books which disclosed the secrets of both the CIA and the administrations of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. He has been arrested and detained several times. Mitt Waspurh, a personal friend who worked at the Senate and shared information was killed at gunpoint. As a senior CIA operative, Baer worked in Yugoslavia during the 1991-94 period and in the Middle East. He has worked on several documentaries on National Geographic, accusing the Bush administration of waging war for oil.

The interview was conducted live in Canada, during my trip a few days ago. Robert Baer is currently promoting his book “The Secrets of the White House” in Quebec, where we talked. In an interview we spoke of the background of the war in Yugoslavia.

Where and when was your first job in Yugoslavia?

I arrived by helicopter with three agents. We landed on 12 January 1991 in Sarajevo. Our job was to keep an eye on alleged terrorists of Serbian nationality, who were expected to attack Sarajevo.

Who were the terrorists in question and why were they supposed to carry out these attacks?

They gave us files about a group called “Supreme Serbia” detailing plans to conduct a series of bomb attacks on key buildings in Sarajevo in opposition to Bosnia’s ambition to leave former Yugoslavia.

Did that group ever exist and what exactly you were doing in Sarajevo under CIA command?

No such group ever existed! Our headquarters lied to us. Our mission was to alarm and spread panic among politicians in Bosnia, simply to fill their heads with the idea that Serbs would attack. To begin with, we accepted the story, but after a while we started to wonder. Why were we raising such hysteria when the group clearly did not exist?

How and when did the mission end and did it have a name?

For me it ended after two weeks, I landed a new job in Slovenia. The operation lasted a month and had the name “Istina” (i.e. “truth”) although it was anything but!

Why did you go to Slovenia?

I received instructions that Slovenia was ready to declare independence. We were given money, a few million dollars, to fund various NGOs, opposition parties and various politicians who have inflamed hatred.

Did you have an opinion about the CIA propaganda and did your colleagues think?

Of course, no one turns down a CIA mission, especially when we were all nervous and prone to paranoia! Many CIA agents and senior officers disappeared simple because they refused to conduct propaganda against the Serbs in Yugoslavia. Personally I was shocked at the dose of lies being fed from our agencies and politicians! Many CIA agents were directed propaganda without being aware of what they are doing. Everyone knew just a fraction of the story and only the one who create the whole story knew the background – they are politicians.

So there was only propaganda against the Serbs?

Yes and no. The aim of the propaganda was to divide the republics so they would break away from the motherland Yugoslavia. We had to choose a scapegoat who would be blamed for everything. Someone who would be responsible for the war and violence. Serbia was chosen because in some ways it is a successor to Yugoslavia.

Can you name the politicians in the former Yugoslavia were paid by the CIA?

Yes, although it is somewhat delicate. Stipe Mesic, Franjo Tudjman, Alija Izetbegovic, many counselors and members of the government of Yugoslavia, were paid as were Serbian generals, journalists and even some military units. Radovan Karadzic was being paid for a while but stopped accepting help when he realised he would be sacrificed and charged with war crimes committed in Bosnia. It was directed by the American administration.

You mentioned that the media was controlled and funded, how exactly did that happen?

This is already known, some CIA agents were responsible for writing the official statement that the announcers read on the news. Of course the news presenters were oblivious to it, they got the news from their boss and he got it from our man. Everyone had the same mission: to spread hatred, nationalism and the differences between people through television.

We all know of Srebrenica, can you say about it?

Yes! In 1992 I was in Bosnia again, but this time we were supposed to train military units to represent Bosnia, a new state that had just declared independence. Srebrenica is an exaggerated story and unfortunately many people are being manipulated. The number of victims is the same as the number of Serbs and others killed but Srebrenica is political marketing. My boss, who was formerly a US Senator, stressed repeatedly that some kind of scam would go down in Bosnia. A month before the alleged genocide in Srebrenica, he told me that the town would be headline news around the world and ordered us to call the media. When I asked why, he said you’ll see. The new Bosnian army got the order to attack homes and civilians. These were of course citizens of Srebrenica. At the same moment, the Serbs attacked from the other side. Probably someone had paid to incite them!

Then who is guilty of genocide in Srebrenica?

Srebrenica should be blamed on Bosnians, Serbs and Americans – that is us! But in fact everything has been blamed on the Serbs. Unfortunately, many of the victims buried as Muslims were Serbs and other nationalities. A few years ago a friend of mine, a former CIA agent and now at the IMF, said that Srebrenica is the product of agreement between the US government and politicians in Bosnia. The town of Srebrenica was sacrificed to give America a motive to attack the Serbs for their alleged crimes.

Ultimately why do you think Yugoslavia collapsed and why did your government want to do it?

It is all very clear, the people who incited the war and dictated the terms of the peace now own the companies that exploit various mineral resources and the like! They simply made slaves of you, your people work for nothing and that produce goes to Germany and America…they are the winners! You will eventually have to purchase and import what you have created yourself, and since you have no money, you have to borrow, that’s the whole story with the whole of the Balkans!

You were never in Kosovo as a CIA agent, but did you feel any pressure from America?

Of course! Kosovo has taken for two reasons, first because of mineral and natural resources, and secondly, Kosovo is a military base of NATO! In the heart of Europe is their largest military base.

Do you have a message for the people of the former Yugoslavia?

I have. Forget the past, it was staged and false. They manipulated you, they got what they wanted and it is stupid that you still hate one another, you must show that you are stronger and you realise who has created this ! I sincerely apologise! That’s why I have for a long time disclosed the secrets of the CIA and the White House!

Tihi, pogledaj šta sam napisao u prethodnoj poruci.
 
Апсолутно не оправдава , једни су радили из страха а други из мржње која је постојала и пре него су је ЦИА распламтали
I opet...

Zato je Mladić heroj. Zaustavio je plamen mržnje. I ne samo jedan...Mnogo.
Mladić se ne bi dogodio da nije bilo to što si rekao. Zbrka emocija na potpuno licemernim osnovama...




Krv. Slatka je dok nije tvoja....
 
Baer se nikada nije bavio Jugoslavijom kao takvom. Nije nikakve angažmane imao i nije ni sam spomenuo nikada, ništa sem jednog jedinog. bio je stacioniran jedno vreme u Sarajevu sa ciljem da prati islamski ekstremizam tamo.

On je stručnjak za muslimanske, arapske i bliskoistočne teme i kao takav se zato bio i našao u Sarajevu, da prati aktivnosti Hezbolaha, koji je imao svoje interese da širi uticaj u Bosni.

Jednog CIA obaveštajca u Sarajevu Hezbolah je ubio i pošto je bio pod pratnjom i verovatno sledeća meta, pobegao je iz Sarajeva da bi spasao svoju živu glavu, jer to više nije bilo bezbedno mesto za američke obaveštajce zbog pretnji Hezbolaha.

To su apsolutno sve veze Baera sa ovim prostorima.

 
@Тихи evo ovde sam ti namestio sekund, to je jedno mesto o kojem Baer priča o Bosni i uopšteno bivšoj Jugi.


Kako kaže, Iranci su naoružavali Muslimane u Bosni, slali ljude za obuku boraca i radili silne druge stvari. Vlada u Sarajevu bila je tesno povezana sa Iranom i sa Islamskom revolucionarnom stražom Ajatolaha Homeinija, kaže Baer. Hezbolah je pokušao da kidnapuje i pogubi CIA obaveštajca u Sarajevu i iz tog razloga je Baer tamo otišao sa zadatkom da isprati tačno sve aktivnosti Hezbolaha u Sarajevu.

Koncentrisanje na očigledno lažan intervju i hrpu gluposti koja se tamo nalazi u potpunosti baca u pozadinu, da ne kažem i uništava, vrlo zanimljive vesti koje Baer zaista donosi.
 
Posto sam 88-me kad je krenuo Milosevicev pohod na nase zivote bio dovoljno odrastao mogu da kazem da mi niko u glavu nije ubacio da je odjednom te 1988/89 pocela bujati mrznja po medijima (seca li se ko samo Politikine rubrike "Odjeci i reagovanja") a istine radi nije ni u Zagrebu bilo to bez odjeka i tamo si na ulici/kafeu mogao popiti batine ako te provale da si iz BGD a mediji su poceli kao po komandi da pisu protiv Srbije. Otac mi je rekao da to ekstremno podseca na 1972 i desavanja oko maspoka i srpskih liberala na drugoj strani. Samo sto 1989 nije bilo diktatora da to sreze politicki i vojno.

Dakle, 1988/89 nije CIA razbila jednopartijski sistem i diktaturu u SFRJ, razbili su je poluticari iz dva glavna naroda SFRJ, razbili su je ljudi koji su zbog svoje licne ambicije hteli biti kalifi umesto kalifa makar i u svojoj avliji. Doduse i Tudjman a pohotovo Milosevic su hteli i parce tudje avlije. No Alija nije dao svoju avliju.
Tačno, samo bih dodao da su se ti političari, barem sa naše strane, u spoljnopolitičkom delovanju oslanjali na Moskvu. Razbijanje SFRJ je zapravo bila reakcija poraženih komunjarskih snaga u Rusiji na propast SSSR i istočnog bloka. Danas se neki naši nacionalisti hvale kako smo mi 90ih držali odstupnicu Rusima.
 
Tačno, samo bih dodao da su se ti političari, barem sa naše strane, u spoljnopolitičkom delovanju oslanjali na Moskvu. Razbijanje SFRJ je zapravo bila reakcija poraženih komunjarskih snaga u Rusiji na propast SSSR i istočnog bloka. Danas se neki naši nacionalisti hvale kako smo mi 90ih držali odstupnicu Rusima.
Ma kakvi Rusi, Rusi su 1988-89 i dalje bili u totalnom rasulu, prvo im se raspao Varsavski ugovor a onda i SSSR odnosno carska Rusija, a i katastrofalno su porazeni u Abganistanu u to vreme. SFRJ je bila minorna stvar u njihovom kolosalnom raspadu, otprilike rupica na cipeli. Niti KGB niti komunisticke snage koje nisu bile u stanju da organizuju puc protiv Gorbacova i Jeljcina nisi mogle bilo sta da urade u SFRJ, zbog kolosalne im nesposobnosti i daleko vaznijih ciljeva u ocuvanju same Rusije od daljeg raspada ( sto se kod njih evo poteze i 30+ godina po raspadu SSSR).

Mozda se Milosevic u nekom trenutku ponadao pomoci Moskve ali 1990-91 je svakome bilo jasno da oni ne mogu dalje od svog dvorista sredjivati situaciju. Pa ta ista Rusija je medju prvima priznala nezavisnoist Slovenije i Hrvatske, tad je i najzadrtijem rusofilu bilo jasno kolika su nam braca Moskovljani. A suluda upornost je da 2024 neki isprani mozgovi tvrde da su Rusi neko i nesto na sta Srbija moze da se osloni, da postoji obostrana ljubav.
 
Bivši visoki funkcioner CIA: Razbili smo Jugoslaviju i podmićivali smo političare da raspiruju mržnju među Jugoslovenima!

- Potrošili smo milione da razbijemo Jugoslaviju. Davali smo pare strankama i političarima koji su podsticali mržnju među narodima - priznao je Robert Baer.

Robert Baer, bivši agent CIA-a, tvrdi da su milioni američkih dolara utrošeni kako bi se razbila bivša Jugoslavija. Kada sam januara 1991. stigao u Sarajevo zadatak je bio da širim lažne informacije da će srposki teroristi napasti grad i da tako stvorim paniku, tvrdi Baer. Baer tvrdi da su tada on i njegove kolege dobili milione dolara kako bi utecali na političare i izazvali raspad Jugoslavije. - Podmićivali smo stranke i političare koji su podsticali mržnju među narodima - rekao je Baer.

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Baer tvrdi da su tada on i njegove kolege dobili milione dolara kako bi utjecali na političare i izazvali raspad Jugoslavije.

"Podmićivali smo stranke i političare koji su podsticali mržnju među narodima", rekao je Baer.

Istakao je i da mu je jedan američki senator tokom rata u BiH rekao da će Srebrenica biti glavna vijest na svjetskim naslovnicama.

"Čak nam je rekao da možemo već uspostavljati kontakt sa medijima", istakao je Baer.

Ovaj bivši agent CIA-e bio je uhapšen nekoliko puta u proteklim godinama zbog otkrivanja državnih tajni. Do sada je objavio više knjiga o CIA-i, Billu Clintonu i Georgeu W. Bushu.

"U Sarajevo sam prvi put stigao 12. januara 1991. godine. Došao sam helikopterom sa još tri agenta. Zadatak nam je bio da pazimo na srpske teroriste koji su trebali napasti grad. Imali smo informacije da će doći do nekoliko terorističkih napada u gradu zbog namjere BiH da istupi iz bivše Jugoslavije. Ali to je bila laž, naši šefovi su nam lagali. Naš primarni zadatak bio je da širimo paniku među političarima da će doći do napada", rekao je Baer.
https://www.espreso.co.rs/vesti/pol...spiruju-mrznju-medju-jugoslovenima-foto-video

https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/...-milione-da-rascjepkamo-jugoslaviju/151130014


Istina izlazi na videlo! Iza sveg zla koje nas je snaslo devedesetih, stoje Sjedinjene Americke Drzave i njihova sluzba CIA!

Nakon sto su razbili nasu drzavu po istom metodu nastavili su na Ukrajinu, Siriju, Rusiju, Jemen ....

Njihova deviza je uvek i svuda - zavadi pa vladaj!

Najvece zlo sveta = CIA!
a da mi ipak prvo ye.bemo majku ustasama, siptarima, bosanskim muslimanima..................pa ce posle da razmisljamo ko je kriv ?
 

Ono što je meni ovde jako interesantno jeste kako je Baer opisao organizaciju. Ne ubijamo ljude, ne teramo nikoga da ubije ikoga, ne nosimo oružje. Kaže čovek jezim se oružja kao takvog, nikakav trening nisam imao, nosio sam samo pištolj koji su mi dali i to uvek prazan zato što sam strahovao da možda slučajno ne opalim u samog sebe. :D

A onda reeedak primer na kojem gostuje i njegova supruga i postavi joj se pitanje. Pa, ja sam imala nešto malo drugačije treniranje od mog muža. Ja sam imala jaaaako puno vojnih vežbi, kako efektivno rukovati svakojakim oružjima, kako izuzetno brzo voziti automobile rizičnim linijama, bilo je puno jurnjava automobilima, učila sam kako da se kamufliram u masi i društvu da ne bih bila prepoznata.... :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: A ženi opis posla je bio HR.

Sve vrlo zanimljive veštine za agenciju koja, kako Baer predstavlja, bavi se uglavnom sedenjem za laptopom i čitanjem tekstova (ili u biblioteci). :mrgreen:

Jasno je da je Robert Baer specifično i odabran za ovu ulogu tj. da je dobio od vrhovne komande da je ima. Zato što po svojoj specifičnoj ulozi i iskustvu on predstavlja CIA u najlepšem mogućem svetlu. Kaže čovek da je hteo oduvek da bude novinar i prijavio se na konkurs na CIA kako bi ga oni odbili zato što na rezimeu novinara zvuči mnogo dobro kada te obaveštajna služba odbije i u suštini priča o tome kako je matlene preko Biroa za nezaposlene počeo tamo da radi. Dakle, on je bukvalno idealni CIA agent i zato i ima ovu ulogu kakvu ima u javnosti, od čega i službeni Vašington ima najviše interesa, kako u domaćoj tako i svetskoj javnosti.
 
Postavio sam ti i tačan sekund. Baer kaže da se CIA ne bavi ubistvima ljudi, da kad se učlanjuješ u CIA potpisuješ jasno sporazum da ne smeš nikada nikoga lišiti života i da se, o kome god da se radi, izlažeš kriminalnom gonjenju zato što je ubistvo zločin. Takođe, ne smeš čak ni kolokvijalno sa strankama izvan organizacije da pričaš o fizičkoj eliminaciji ljudi. To je najstrože zabranjeno i tada su instrukcije, da čim ubistvo ma koga god na svetu postane tema, moraš odmah da prekineš sve kontakte.
Čekaj, ti zaista veruješ u ovo?
 
Baer se nikada nije bavio Jugoslavijom kao takvom. Nije nikakve angažmane imao i nije ni sam spomenuo nikada, ništa sem jednog jedinog. bio je stacioniran jedno vreme u Sarajevu sa ciljem da prati islamski ekstremizam tamo.
CIA agent je pratio islamski ekstremizam?
Pa, jel' ga bilo dovoljno - šta kaže?
Pošto oni nemaju nikakve veze sa dovodjenjem islamskih ekstremista u Bosnu.
 
Ma kakvi Rusi, Rusi su 1988-89 i dalje bili u totalnom rasulu, prvo im se raspao Varsavski ugovor a onda i SSSR odnosno carska Rusija, a i katastrofalno su porazeni u Abganistanu u to vreme. SFRJ je bila minorna stvar u njihovom kolosalnom raspadu, otprilike rupica na cipeli. Niti KGB niti komunisticke snage koje nisu bile u stanju da organizuju puc protiv Gorbacova i Jeljcina nisi mogle bilo sta da urade u SFRJ, zbog kolosalne im nesposobnosti i daleko vaznijih ciljeva u ocuvanju same Rusije od daljeg raspada ( sto se kod njih evo poteze i 30+ godina po raspadu SSSR).

Mozda se Milosevic u nekom trenutku ponadao pomoci Moskve ali 1990-91 je svakome bilo jasno da oni ne mogu dalje od svog dvorista sredjivati situaciju. Pa ta ista Rusija je medju prvima priznala nezavisnoist Slovenije i Hrvatske, tad je i najzadrtijem rusofilu bilo jasno kolika su nam braca Moskovljani. A suluda upornost je da 2024 neki isprani mozgovi tvrde da su Rusi neko i nesto na sta Srbija moze da se osloni, da postoji obostrana ljubav.
Ta Rusija koja je priznala Sloveniju i Hrvatsku je tada bila pod vlašću jedne od struja u Kremlju. Razlog tome nije nekakva njihova slabost i zavisnost od Zapada, već njihova liberalna politika. U to vreme je ova Putinova boljševička struja bila u poluilegali. Upravo su oni davali instrukcije Cobiju, a posle i azil članovima njegove porodice.
 
CIA agent je pratio islamski ekstremizam?
Pa, jel' ga bilo dovoljno - šta kaže?
Pošto oni nemaju nikakve veze sa dovodjenjem islamskih ekstremista u Bosnu.

Ne znam zašto me teraš da se ponavljam.

Knjiga koju je napisao jaaaako je kratka. Imaš je na scribd-u može brzo da se pročita. A možeš i da poslušaš ovo gostovanje na snimku gore, ako te zanima.
 
Ta Rusija koja je priznala Sloveniju i Hrvatsku je tada bila pod vlašću jedne od struja u Kremlju. Razlog tome nije nekakva njihova slabost i zavisnost od Zapada, već njihova liberalna politika. U to vreme je ova Putinova boljševička struja bila u poluilegali. Upravo su oni davali instrukcije Cobiju, a posle i azil članovima njegove porodice.
Cobijevoj porodici je bilo sasvim ugodno i u Jeljcinovoj struji. Stariji brat Borislav je 90-tih delio gradjevinske poslove privatnicima iz Srbije, deljao ih za % ( i moja malenkost je 90-tih bila u Moskvi na poslu na gradilistu) a sve to nije mogao bez toga da nije bio na prst u bulju sa Jeljcinovim okruzenjem. Putin i tvrda sovjetska struja su tad bili daleko daleko od vlasti. Cak se secam da je neki lik sa imenom Isa ili Ica, iz bgd Elektrona otvarao nogom vrata kod ambasadora Milosevica a kod Jeljcina uctivim kucanjem, obratis se njemu, platis i sve ti se sredi, i sa srpske i sa ruske strane. Tvrda sovjetska struja je izgubila rat sa raspadom Varsavskog bloka, gubitkom ratavu Avganistanu i raspadom SSSR. Neuspelim pucem protiv Gorbacova i Jeljcinovim uzduzanjem su izgubili svu moc. Niti su mogli u SFRJ sta da su imali vremena tim da se bave jer su i njihovi zivoti tad visili na koncu.
 

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