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Mainstream popularity

Nirvana, early in their careerPrior to its popularity, grunge was listened to
mostly by those who played the music. Bands would play at clubs with very few
people in attendance, most of which were from other performing bands. Others who
listened to the music in those early days were often people who were "just
trying to get out of the rain" as many attendants would claim. As bands began to
issue albums, independent labels became the key catalysts in bringing the music
to the local public. Many of the more successful bands of the era were
associated with Seattle's Sub Pop record label, though several other independent
Seattle-area labels gained recognition, including Olympia labels Kill Rock Stars
and K Records. Other record labels in the Pacific Northwest that helped promote
grunge included EMpTy Records, Estrus Records, C/Z Records, and PopLlama
Records.[8][9]
In November 1988, Sub Pop took their initial step towards popularizing grunge
with the Sub Pop Singles Club, a subscription service that would allow
subscribers to receive singles by local bands on a monthly basis by mail. This
increased grunge's following locally, and allowed Sub Pop to become a powerful
company in the local scene. According to Sub Pop founders Bruce Pavitt and
Jonathan Poneman, grunge's popularity began to flourish after a journalist from
the British magazine Melody Maker was asked by them to write an article on the
local music scene. This helped to make grunge known outside of the local area
during the late 1980s, giving the genre its first major spurt of popularity.[10]
Mudhoney is often credited as having been the biggest commercial success for
grunge during this time, and was the most successful grunge band until the end
of the 80s.[11] Still, grunge would not become a huge national phenomenon in the
US until the 1990s.

Nirvana's Nevermind album coverNirvana is generally credited for breaking the
genre into the popular consciousness in 1991. The popularity of Nirvana's song
"Smells Like Teen Spirit", from the album Nevermind, surprised the entire music
industry. The album became a #1 hit around much of the world, and paved the way
for more bands, including, most popularly, Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam, in fact, had
released their debut album Ten a month earlier in August 1991, but album sales
only picked up after the success of Nirvana. For many audiences then and later,
grunge came to be almost totally associated with these two bands and their
punky, rebellious attitude towards mainstream mores as well as cultural and
social institutions. Other popular Seattle-based bands (most notably Alice in
Chains and Soundgarden) would also become extremely successful. Some bands from
other regions, such as Stone Temple Pilots from San Diego, Australia's
Silverchair, and Great Britain's Bush also became popular.[12]
Most grunge fans and music critics believe that grunge emerged as a popular
genre and was embraced by mainstream audiences in reaction to the declining
popularity of hair metal. Hair metal bands, such as Mötley Crüe, Poison, and
Warrant, had been dominating the charts during the 1980s (especially in the
United States) despite being looked down upon by most critics. Hair metal was
known for macho (some critics have said misogynist) lyrics, anthemic riffs, and
a perceived lack of social consciousness, especially in the race to attract
mainstream audiences. These aspects were popular during the 1980s, but they
began to have the opposite effect on audiences towards the end of the decade.
Grunge, however, sharply contrasted to hair metal; its lyrics avoided machismo
and used a simpler style similar to punk. With a viable alternative to hair
metal realized by the public, the popularity of hair metal began to die off as
the popularity of grunge began to rise.
Grunge fans in the Pacific Northwest believed that the media gave excessive
importance to the clothing worn by grunge musicians and fans, along with other
aspects of the local culture. Clothing commonly worn by grunge fans in the
Northwest in its early years was a blend of the punk aesthetic with the typical
outdoorsy clothing (most notably flannel shirts) of the region. The "fashion"
did not evolve out of a conscious attempt to create an appealing fashion, but
due to the inexpensiveness of such clothes and the warmth that they provided for
the cold climate of the region. The media, rather than focusing on the music,
would give this fashion a heavy amount of exposure. In the early 1990s, the
fashion industry marketed "grunge fashion" to a widespread audience, charging
relatively high prices for clothing that they assumed to be popular in the
grunge scene. Similarly, the media would view grunge as a whole culture,
assuming it to be Generation X's attempt to create a culture similar to the
hippie counterculture of the previous generation. Rather than focus on the
music, much of the media focused on other superficial aspects of the musicians
and fans. An interesting case of this superficiality backfiring on the media was
the grunge speak hoax, which caused The New York Times to print a fake list of
slang terms that supposedly were used in the grunge scene. This was later proven
to be a prank by Sub Pop's Megan Jasper. The excesses of this media hype would
also be documented in the 1996 documentary Hype!.[13]

Pearl Jam's Ten album coverWhile such superficiality bothered Seattle-area
grunge fans, most grunge musicians from the area continued to dress in the way
that they had prior to popularity. Some musicians from outside the region also
began to dress similarly. In the rock world, expensive, designer clothing was
shunned in favor of less elaborate clothing; some common items worn included
flannel, jeans, boots (often Doc Martens), and Converse sneakers. Many young
fans outside of the region embraced this style for its simple defiance of the
norms of the era's popular culture, which was seen by many of them as
corporate-dominated and superficial. In England, youth who dressed in this
fashion were sometimes called grungers, while the term grungies was often used
in the United States. Traditional rock and roll ostentatiousness became
offensive to many rock music fans, inspiring an anti-fashion trend. Oddly, this
attitude helped the fashion industry push their "grunge fashion" line, turning
the fans' defiance to fashion against them. As a result, many grunge fans
dropped the "traditional" grunge fashion soon after having embraced it; the
industry stopped marketing it shortly afterwards.
Many notable events happened during the "grunge era" of music that may not have
happened had grunge never become popular. Alternative rock, previously heard
mostly in local clubs, on college radio, and on independent record labels,
became popular in the mainstream as major record labels sought out more
previously obscure music styles to sell to the public. The traveling festival
Lollapalooza came about as a result of this, with grunge being a major part of
the 1992 and 1993 events. In the media's spotlight, grunge became part of the
pop culture, most notably being a major part of the 1992 film Singles, which
featured several grunge bands. Nirvana and Sonic Youth would star in a
documentary film that same year, 1991: The Year Punk Broke. Riot grrrl, another
hardcore punk offshoot that came into being in Western Washington (and was thus
often seen as the feminine equivalent of grunge), became well known from the
media coverage of the local scene. With such punk derivative genres becoming
popular, punk itself was able to make a revival, as bands such as Green Day and
The Offspring became chart-topping successes. Independent record labels, which
used to rarely have success on level with major labels, were able to sell albums
with equal or similar success as the major labels (most notably in the cases of
Sub Pop and Epitaph Records).
 
Decline of mainstream popularity
The mass popularity of grunge music was short-lived, however. There were several
important factors that contributed to this. Though some of them could have
single-handedly ended the genre's mainstream popularity, it is generally
believed that more than one factor caused the decline.
Most fans and music historians believe that most grunge bands were too opposed
to mainstream stardom to actually achieve long-lasting support from major record
labels. Many grunge bands refused to cooperate with major record labels in
making radio-friendly hooks, and the labels found new bands that were willing to
do so, albeit with a watered-down sound that did not sit well with the genre's
long-time fans. A decline in music sales in general in 1996 may also have
influenced labels to look for different genres to promote rather than genres
such as grunge that were popular up to that point. However, this decline may
have been a result of the industry's use of such watered-down groups.
Another factor that may have led to the fall of grunge's mainstream popularity
was the advent of the sub-genre of grunge known as post-grunge. Post-grunge was
a radio-friendly variation of grunge which lacked the "dirty" sound that most
fans of grunge were used to. The sub-genre is generally believed to have come
about at the behest of label executives who wanted to sell a variation of grunge
that would sell to a larger audience as a result of sounding more like pop
music. In the mid-1990s, record labels began signing several bands that used
such a sound and gave them wide exposure. While some of these bands, such as
Silverchair and Bush, were able to gain widespread success, many fans of grunge
denounced post-grunge bands as being sell-outs. This is most notable in the
cases of Candlebox and Collective Soul, who were reviled by most grunge fans.
Even the commercially successful post-grunge bands would be given such
accusations by grunge fans, causing most of them to have shorter spurts of
popularity than earlier grunge bands. As grunge began to disappear from the
mainstream, later post-grunge bands such as Creed and Days of the New would also
receive such negative treatment by fans of the genre.

Soundgarden's Superunknown album coverHeroin use amongst grunge musicians was
also a serious problem for the continuation of some grunge bands. Andrew Wood's
death from an overdose in 1990 was the first major tragedy for the grunge scene,
bringing an end to Mother Love Bone. Kurt Cobain's use of heroin is believed to
have contributed to his death (though whether or not it did was never
confirmed).[14] The deaths of Kristen Pfaff of Hole and Layne Staley of Alice in
Chains in 1994 and 2002, respectively, were also caused by heroin overdoses. It
is believed by many that grunge effectively began its decline when Cobain died
in April of 1994. Interestingly, Cobain had often been photographed wearing
t-shirts stating that "Grunge is Dead."
For many fans of the genre, it wasn't until the pioneering band Soundgarden
disbanded in 1997 that they finally conceded grunge's time in the mainstream was
over. Over the next few years grunge's mainstream popularity quickly came to an
end. Many grunge bands have continued recording and touring with more limited
success, including, most significantly, Pearl Jam. Bands like Pearl Jam also
have adapted their style to the ever-changing music world. Grunge music still
has its followers, and many of them still express their fandom over the
Internet. Grunge's mainstream following still shows some continuation in the
popularity of Nirvana's post-break-up releases; the previously unreleased song
"You Know You're Right" became a chart topping hit in 2002, and the box set With
the Lights Out has become the best selling box set of all time.
Media
Smells Like Teen Spirit (info)
"Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana
Come As You Are (info)
"Come As You Are" by Nirvana
Daughter (info)
"Daughter" by Pearl Jam
Rooster (info)
""Rooster" by Alice in Chains
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Prominent bands
Alice in Chains
Green River
Hole
L7
Love Battery
Mad Season
Malfunkshun
Melvins, The
Moist
Mother Love Bone
Mudhoney
Nirvana
Pearl Jam
Screaming Trees
Skin Yard
Soundgarden
Stone Temple Pilots
Tad
Temple of the Dog
Willard

Notes
^ The novel Generation X: Tales for an Accelerated Culture by Douglas
Coupland, which popularized the term "Generation X", was published in 1991.
Despite common belief, the novel makes no reference to grunge at all; Nirvana
had yet to release "Smells Like Teen Spirit" at the time that the novel was
published. Still, the characters' attitudes and dress styles were seen as
being reminiscent of those of grunge fans and musicians.
^ Arm first used the term in 1981, before he had adopted the name under which
he became famous. As Mark McLaughlin, he wrote a letter to a Seattle zine,
Desperate Times, criticizing his own then-band Mr. Epp and the Calculations as
"Pure grunge! Pure noise! Pure shit!" Clark Humphrey, who edited Desperate
Times, cites this (Loser, 63) as the earliest use of the term to refer to a
Seattle band, and mentions that Bruce Pavitt of SubPop popularized the term as
a musical label in 1987–88, using it on several occasions to describe Arm's
band Green River. [15]
^ A common claim of the media is that Geffen Records played a major role in
marketing grunge to the mainstream audience. However, its only involvement was
in promoting Nirvana in the 1990s. It is worth noting that Nirvana had already
begun to gain a considerable following when they were signed to Sub Pop.
^ Pavitt and Poneman were both criticized for their actions. Some grunge fans
felt that their role in popularizing grunge was done out of greed rather than
an actual love for the music.
^ Most grunge bands that came from outside of the Pacific Northwest belonged
to the subgenre of post-grunge. Those mentioned were not exceptions; Bush and
Silverchair, despite their success, were heavily criticized by grunge fans for
helping post-grunge proliferate in the music industry. Stone Temple Pilots
were often criticized for their similarities to mainstream musicians of the
previous decade, and some grunge fans do not believe that they count as a
grunge band at all.
 
Kako se nerviram kad citam te tekstove u kojima sve pocinje i zavrsava se sa Nirvanom.
Nirvana nikada nije bila najpopularniji grunge bend,niti su oni otvorili put grungeu.
Nirvana je bio jedini bend koji je pristao da se proda muzickim tv i radio stanicama a nikada nisu mogli ni da se priblize Pearl Jam,pa ni Alice in chains,Soundgarden po znacaju,kvalitetu a i popularnosti.
Smells like....je toliko najavljivan i toliko se dizala prasina oko njega da je smesno to sto su prodali 5 miliona primeraka.
A Ten je izdat dva meseca od formiranja PJ,niko nije znao za njih,namerno su pravili spotove uzivo sa koncerata jer Mtv takve redje pusta,posle su odustali od spotova i bilo kakvih drugih reklama i prodali su 11 miliona !!!
Posle kobejnove smrti grunge je pukao jer nisu imali koga vise da reklamiraju.
Eddie i kompanija su se sakrili,a Layne je imao problema sa drogom.
Ali,pogledajte i sada,svaki koncert PJ ima bar 50 000 ljudi....i to zato sto kada imaju turneje po americi u jednom gradu drze po tri-cetiri dana koncerte zaredom .
U nemackoj 2000,250 000 ljudi je bilo na koncertu ...
Glupi mediji...glupi casopisi...
 
hehe joj sto se slazemo :)

ako je neko video, danas je na vh1 bio Nirvana day... all day.. joj boze... i ja reko ajde kao da im dam sansu, da poslusam nekoliko stvari, mozda sam gresila sve ove godine... ali, ne znam... mislim, steta je za kurta i sve to, ali oni nisu ni prineti Pearl Jam-u, ali ni... ne znam, do zglobova... ili jednostavno ja nisam u tom fazonu, da slusam 2,3 akorda i reci bez nekog posebnog smisla spojene zajedno... itd.
to je mozda fora ako se nadrogiras i napijes i to sve sto je radio kurt kad ih je pisao, ali ovako meni... nesto ne radi...

i tako gledam, intervju sa kurtom i kompanijom, i ono... kao ludi su, nesto su buntovni kao... ali moguce da samo to nije vrsta bunta ili senzibilitet meni kompatibilan... cak sta vise, nekako mi se glupim to cini, iako ne zelim da vredjam, ali ako uporedjujem to mi onda tako izgleda...

i kao nirvana nije htela slavu i kao sve joj je to smetalo, a za svaki album 100 spotova radili...

necu da ponavljam, kolega je vec rekao...
 
goddamnit! zayebo me, sad moram ponovo da pisem poruku :grrrrrrr:

i ako imas kola, ili ti vec imas?

ja sam polozila voznju i testove iz prve i hocu da vas vozim... ali ja idem onda tamo samo kao vozach... i onda spontano, iz cavrljanja provalite da ja obozavam PJ i to onda doda uzbudjenje za koncert za jednu trecinu...

nego, znate sta sam provalila iz intervjua, odnosno iz onog cyber shata sto sam citala... da je najbolje da se zaposlimo kao radna snaga na koncertima Pearl Jam-a... i onda smo na svakom koncertu i mozemo da uzivamo i sve... :)

a?a?a?... a?a?a?

(ovo je losija verzija originalnog posta... damn that river!, ovaj IE)
 
jesam, ali oni su pricali da imaju sve zaposlene vec, ali za TU 2000. godinu, so :p

nista, onda se vidimo na stazi, da saznamo ko ce da nas vozi do islanda!
eat my dust, sucker! :))) :twisted:
 
evo PishBocaMan me naterao da se pojavim ovde :)
zdravo kako ste? cjao ;p shalim se..... vidim nishta novo.... ah da.... video sam u novosadskom IPS-u CD 'lost dogs'........aaaaaaaaa. dve hiljade dindzosa. samo. sak maj dik, ko god je nabio te cene. necju se smiriti dok ne budem imao taj cd....

odo' ja da pljachkam babe.
poz :)
 
Ja sam chuo da ce skoro sigurno da bidne...A da zaboravio sam da evro stalno skace mozda bude i mnogo mnogo vishe u ovoj ye**** oj zemlji samo su Narodnjaci oslobodjeni poreza....
 
aj da se upišem,i mene je kritikovao .pbm...mada ja više kitim svaštaru tekstovima pj-a
ne znam šta da kažem,mnogo je rečeno,uživao sam dok sam čitao.
grupa je stvarno posebna,meni međ' dve omiljene,deli mesto na pijedestalu.
trenutno najdraža pesma mi je once...masters of war je genijalna,black,push me pull me,rearview mirror,indifference,nothingman...mogu da kucam imena još dugo sve su genijalne.
 
November 11, 2005, 12:00 AM ET


As it prepares for its maiden tour of South America, which begins Nov. 22 in Santiago, Chile, Pearl Jam continues to work on its new studio album, which is due next spring via J Records.

"It's been a difficult record and it's like sometimes the harder something is, then the more valuable it becomes," frontman Eddie Vedder said earlier this week during a Brazilian radio interview. "It's easily the best stuff we've done but also some of the hardest stuff. It's very aggressive, because again, it's kind of a product of what it's like to be an American these days. It's pretty aggressive, especially when you turn it loud."

The band has been working on and off throughout the year on the as-yet-untitled set, but Vedder admitted, "It's not quite done. I'm hoping to finish the last of the songs while I'm down [in South America]. I'm bringing my tape machines and all that down. If I can come back and finish the last few songs in January, then it will be out in April or something."

For now, Pearl Jam is not planning to unveil any new songs in a live setting. "We want them to be heard for the first time when the record comes out," Vedder said.

But he added he had been mulling an album title that was a play on Soundgarden's "Superunknown": "I was thinking of the word 'un-owned' -- not owned by anybody," he said. "The sky is un-owned. The moon is un-owned. We're un-owned. We want to remain un-owned. The title was 'Superun-owned.'"
 
hehe svidja mi ideja za ime!


nego, samo se vi zayebavajte, ja sam poslala, DA! POSLALA! pismo Pearl Jam-u! :)
zabushanti jedni! :P

pozvala sam ih da dodju da nam sviraju na koncertu njihovom :)
ehh....
 

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