Fiksne zvezde

lyriza:
Djuro, mogu da te zamolim da mi pogledas te fiksne zvezde?
evo ga link: http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?...d=lmxfileJvvskM-u1159271442&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=
Hvala.

Evo ovde ih imas po redu kroz znakove , po redu. od ovna pa nadalje....
pa onda pogledaj da li imas na tim stepenima neku planetu, vrh kuce, cvor itd....
imas stepene i znakove gde su zvezde pa idi polako levo po listi i gledaj u natalnu...
a ako kliknes levo na bilo koju zvezdu izaci ce ti tekst sa objasnjenjem simbolike
poz
 
lyriza:
Hvala Bebo, ali ipak mi treba pomoc.
Pozdrav.

Pa ja mogu da uradim samo sve ono sto ti mozes i sama...
da pogledam gde ti je koja fiksna da li je u vezi s nekom planetom....itd..
mislim da se gledaju samo konjukcije....gledaj samo zvezde koje su u konjukciji sa tvojim planetama....gledaj sirinu od 2-3 stepena.....
npr, mars ti je u konjukciji sa nekoliko zvezda pogledaj levo u listi, na 18. blizanaca gde ti je mars koliko fiksnih ima...pa onda procitaj simboliku kad kliknes na svaku otvorice se objasnjenje.
jedino ako je problem jezik jer je na engleskom
 
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Algol With Mars: or if Mars be elevated above the luminaries when Algol is angular, the native will be a murderer who will come to an untimely end. The same is caused by Algol angular or with the hyleg. (Robson).

hyleg = ?
angular = nagnut, pod nekim uglom?

ako je mars uzdignut iznad svetlosti kad je Algol nagnut..
ili tako nesto....?

tada ce osoba nosioc natala biti ubica koji ce doziveti preranu smrt.....

to je Algol konj. Mars



Bebo to znaci da je Mars orijentalan-iznad Sunca. TO se odredjuje tako sto vratis Sunce na ascedent i pogledas da li je Mars u 7,8,9,10,11,12 kuci odnosno iznad horizonta.
Moj Mars na Algolu je okcidentalan(ispod Sunca) pa ja valjda necu biti ubica, a?

Moj mars je tacno iznad sunca u 12....
ali ja nemam konj marsa sa Algolom.....

 
putzaraj:
jel zna nesto beko o wega konjukcija merkur? :)
ili bar o wega-i

http://www.winshop.com.au/annew/new_page_1.htm

Fixed star: VEGA Wega Constellation: Alpha [font=Arial,Helvetica]Lyra[/font] Longitude 1900: 13CAP55. Longitude 2000: 15CAP19. Declination 1900: +38.41'. Declination 2000: +38.47'. Right ascension: 18h36m. Latitude: +61.44'. Spectral class: A1. Magnitude: 0.03. Suggested orb: 1 deg. approx. Planetary nature: Ven-Mer

History of the star: A pale sapphire star in the Lyre Lyra.

Vega from Arabic Al-Waqi' (1), "The stooping" eagle or "The swooping Vulture", and is often referred to as "The Vulture Star", "The Sitting Vulture", "The Falling Grype" and figured with upturned head with a lyre in its beak from the story of Orpheus [who might be described as the prototype of our modern pop-star] who was torn apart by the Maenads, raving mad-women [or fans], they cast the lyre in the river. Jupiter sent a vulture to scoop it out of the river and then placed it in the sky.

Alpha is Wega, less correctly Vega. Waghi, Vuega vel Vagieh, Veka are variations.

Greek titles for it became Allore, Alahore, and Alohore - (?).

Among Latin writers it was Lyra as often the alpha star or lucida takes on the name of the constellation. Flamsteed's had Testa fulgida dicta Lyra; Latin Fidis and Fides "lyre", "string" and Fidicula.

Sayce identifies Wega, in Babylonian astronomy, with Dilgan, "the Messenger of Light", a name also applied to other stars; and Brown writes of it: "At one time Vega was the Pole-star called in Akkadian Tir-anna (" Life of Heaven "), and in Assyrian Dayan-same ("Judge of Heaven"), as having the highest seat therein; but fourteen millenniums have passed since Wega occupied that position!" Due to the precession of the equinoxes, Polaris is now our Pole Star; "the still point in the turning world".

The Chinese called Vega She-niu, "the weaver", and her beloved shepherd, Altair, who meet once a year, crossing the Milky Way. Christians saw Lyra as King David's harp. In Holland's translation of Pliny it is the Harp-star.

It was one of the stars in the Hindu 20th nakshatra, Abhtlit, "Victorious", the most northern of these stellar divisions and far out of the moon's path [usually the stars in moon mansions are ecliptic stars], but apparently utilized to bring in this splendid object; or, as Mueller says, because it was of specially good omen, for under its influence the gods had vanquished the Asuras; these last being the Hindu divinities of evil, similar to the Titans of Greece. It was the doubtful one of that country's lunar stations, included in some, but omitted in others of their lists in all ages of their astronomy, and entirely different from the corresponding Arabic manzil and Chinese sieu, which lay in Capricorn. The Hindus figured it as a Triangle, or as the three-cornered nut of the aquatic plant Cringata.

Vega, along with Deneb Adige in the Swan, and Altair in the Eagle, forms the Great Summer Triangle. (Allen).



 
Influence of the constellation: "According to Ptolemy Lyra (a musical instrument) is like Venus and Mercury. It is said to give an harmonious, poetical and developed nature, fond of music and apt in science and art, but inclined to theft. By the Kabalists it is associated with the Hebrew letter Daleth and the 4th Tarot Trump, The Emperor". (Robson).

General influence of the star: According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Venus and Mercury; and, to Alvidas, of Saturn in trine to Jupiter from the earthy signs especially Capricorn and Taurus. It gives beneficence, ideality, hopefulness, refinement and changeability, and makes its natives grave, sober, outwardly pretentious and usually lascivious. (Robson).

In a good cosmic configuration, Vega is supposed to give artistic talents especially for music and acting, but also a liking for good living. With eccentric artists, this may lead to a debauched life. Tied up with Jupiter or Venus, Vega is said to pave the way to riches and fame. However, if other influences play a part, this wealth may be lost again. High success is promised if Vega is positioned on the Asc or MC. One can find Vega in corresponding aspects in birth charts of statesmen, politicians, persons of importance and influential persons with adequate aspects. In connection with the Moon or Neptune a tendency for occult and mysticism may be given. (Ebertin).

Associated with wealth and pretentiousness. (Larousse Encyclopedia of Astrology).

Rising: Can be trained in duties of court. Avengers of crimes and in charge of public courts and inquires. If Saturn is in any aspect with Vega when rising, the native will pursue this vocation with a fanaticism to the point of utilizing tortures and executions to stamp out what he considers evil. (Noonan).

Lyre, the shape of the tortoise-shell, which under the fingers of its heir (Mercury) gave forth sound only after death. Once with it did Orpheus; Oeagrus' son, impart sleep to waves, feeling to rocks, hearing to trees, tears to Pluto, and finally a limit to death. Hence will come endowments of song and tuneful strings, hence pipes of different shapes which prattle melodiously, and whatever is moved to utterance by touch of hand or force of breath. The child of the Lyre will sing beguiling songs at the banquet, his voice adding mellowness to the wine and holding the night in thrall. Indeed, even when harassed by cares, he will rehearse some secret strain, tuning his voice to a stealthy hum and, left to himself, he will ever burst into song which can charm no ears but his own. The Lute rises into the mighty heavens, there shall be born a man to investigate wrong-doing and punish the guilty ("and champion the unjustly accused") he will get to the bottom of crimes by sifting the evidence for them and bring to light - all that lies hidden under the silence of deceit. Hence, too, are begotten the merciless torturer, the dispenser of penalties, whoever insists on the truth and abominates evil, and the man whose profound understanding will put an end to disputes. (The synonymous fidicula occasionally used to designate the constellation of the Lyre, also signifies an instrument of torture). (Manilus, book 5 of Astronomica, 1st century AD).

With Sun: Critical, abrupt, reserved, unpopular, fleeting honors, influential position, insincere friends. If with Mars also, above the earth, and the Moon be with Procyon, death from the bite of a mad dog. (Robson).

With Moon: Public disgrace, probably through forgery, loss through writings, some ill-health, success in business, gain through an annuity or pension. If a malefic be with Scheat, violent death. (Robson).

With Mercury: Suspicious, reserved, bitter, thwarted ambitions, double dealing, secret enemies in influential positions, trouble with the mother, loss in business. (Robson).

With Venus: Hard-hearted, cold, miserly, ill- health, ugliness or deformity. (Robson).

With Mars: Scientific interests, unpopular opinions, moral courage, favorable for gain. (Robson).

With Jupiter: Loss through legal affairs, favorable for gain, danger of imprisonment. (Robson).

With Saturn: Strong passions, opinionated, original, many Mercurial difficulties, reputation suffers through wrongful accusations, trouble with superiors, domestic difficulties, few, if any, children, latter half of life more favorable, sudden death. (Robson).

With Uranus: Critical, abrupt, reserved, strong passions, materialistic, many disappointments, domestic sorrow, much gain and loss, many open and secret enemies, accidental or violent death. (Robson).

With Neptune: Timid, fond of music, occult interests, practical and scientific mind, associated with occult societies, material success, home may be broken up, liable to accidents, natural death in old age especially when Mars is in favorable aspect. (Robson).
 
With Mercury: Suspicious, reserved, bitter, thwarted ambitions, double dealing, secret enemies in influential positions, trouble with the mother, loss in business. (Robson).


ovo bi bilo dobro ili lose?
 
putzaraj:
With Mercury: Suspicious, reserved, bitter, thwarted ambitions, double dealing, secret enemies in influential positions, trouble with the mother, loss in business. (Robson).


ovo bi bilo dobro ili lose?

to bi bilo super:))) u odnosu na na primer ovo:

Porima Caphir {[mag.2.9] – 08s-10s Vage – Konstelacija Gamma Virgo} u konjukciji sa Saturnom:- Daje inteligenciju, vicnost u ucenju, probleme u porodici u ranom dobu zivota, zlo okruzenje. Moguca odgovornost , zatvor ili egzekucija za krivicno delo druge osobe, posebno ako je u 12 kuci.Osoba pati zbog zavera od strane prijatelja ili rodjaka. Nedostatak harmonije u porodici, bolesna deca, “rasturena” porodica, smrt u zatvoru.
 
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Citat:
Original postavio beba_toronto
Sta znaci ovo

Algol With Mars: or if Mars be elevated above the luminaries when Algol is angular, the native will be a murderer who will come to an untimely end. The same is caused by Algol angular or with the hyleg. (Robson).

hyleg = ?
angular = nagnut, pod nekim uglom?

ako je mars uzdignut iznad svetlosti kad je Algol nagnut..
ili tako nesto....?

tada ce osoba nosioc natala biti ubica koji ce doziveti preranu smrt.....

to je Algol konj. Mars



Bebo to znaci da je Mars orijentalan-iznad Sunca. TO se odredjuje tako sto vratis Sunce na ascedent i pogledas da li je Mars u 7,8,9,10,11,12 kuci odnosno iznad horizonta.
Moj Mars na Algolu je okcidentalan(ispod Sunca) pa ja valjda necu biti ubica, a?


Moj mars je tacno iznad sunca u 12....
ali ja nemam konj marsa sa Algolom.....
upz kaze ,
With Mars: or if Mars be elevated above the luminaries when Algol is angular, the native will be a murderer who will come to an untimely end. The same is caused by Algol angular or with the hyleg. (Robson).




ako pomerim sunce na asc, Algol mi je iznad sunca




Ovo je pitanje za JAMACHU
nisi mi objasnio sta znaci "wigh hyleg" i angular.....
 
beba_toronto:
to bi bilo super:))) u odnosu na na primer ovo:

Porima Caphir {[mag.2.9] – 08s-10s Vage – Konstelacija Gamma Virgo} u konjukciji sa Saturnom:- Daje inteligenciju, vicnost u ucenju, probleme u porodici u ranom dobu zivota, zlo okruzenje. Moguca odgovornost , zatvor ili egzekucija za krivicno delo druge osobe, posebno ako je u 12 kuci.Osoba pati zbog zavera od strane prijatelja ili rodjaka. Nedostatak harmonije u porodici, bolesna deca, “rasturena” porodica, smrt u zatvoru.

a ovo imas ti ili dajes samo primer? :)
 
lyriza:
:)
rekla si da je uvek losa, pa sta to onda znaci?

cek, algol ima svako u karti na nekom mestu kao i sve ostale zvezde...gleda se onda ako ti je u konjukciji sa nekom planetom ili nekom vaznom tackom ac,mc,dc, cvorom, ili ako hoces da ukljucis u tumacenje asteroide, lilith itd....
nekrenice deluju samo u konjukciji...tako kazu ...ako ti nije u konjukciji ni sa cim onda ti ne deluje na kartu....
algol je najzlobnija zvezda na nebu...ali mozes da procitas po ovom topiku od pocetka ja sam svasta napisala vec o algolu ....i djura i ja smo diskutovale i o drugim zvezdama..
a imas i linkove....

http://www.winshop.com.au/annew/new_page_1.htm

klikni na
The named fixed stars in longitude order

levo imas tabelu , sve zvezde po redu , po znacima od ovna pa po stepenima nadalje, pa gledaj, trazi:)

 

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