Драгољуб Дража Михаиловић

jos jedna knjiga koja se nije mogla videti u vreme vladavine crvenog ustase....

Jos iz davne 54.

O najvecoj akciji spasavanja iza neprijateljskih linija u II sv.ratu

"EIGHT BAILED OUT" - by U.S.A.F. Major James Inks / Behind Enemy Lines with General Mihailovich and the Chetniks

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Edited by Lawrence Klingman. Illustrations by S/Sgt. Morton D. Rosenfeld and M/Sgt. John H Schuffert. NY: W.W. Norton and Company, 1954. Reprint: NY: Popular Library, 1963.

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“Dedication: To the memory of General Draza Mihailovich and to those of his followers, dead or alive, who aided us.”
 
No. 70
GERMANS SUPPLY BACOVIC AND LUKACEVIC
PRO
FO 371/44279, R 4770/8/92
CYPHER DIPLOMATIC (SECRET)
FROM BARI TO RESIDENT MINISTER, CENTRAL MEDITERRANEAN CASERTA
Mr. Broad D. 1.45 p.m. GMT. 7th October 1944.
No. 283 R. 3.30 p.m. BST. 7th October 1944.

Repeated to Foreign Office No. 765. 0:0:0:0
My telegram No. 261 R 15450/G
Information has just been received from British Liaison Officer in Montenegro that he has seen lists of stores given weekly to the forces of Bacovic and Lukacevk5 by the Germans and also German-stamped passes for these Cetnik formations. O.T.P.


No. 71
ALLIED REPORT ON CHETNIK COLLABORATION
PRO F.O. 371/48897 R 3624/445/92

Chetnik Collaboration With Germans!
Reports from the field during the past four months show that the Chetniks have become more and more closely connect¬ed with the Germans. In Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herce-govina, and Sandzak, Chetnik and German troops were known to be fighting together against the Partisans. Several reports have also come in of Chetniks fighting with the Germans in the area North of Fiume.
For a long time it has been clear that the time of the German withdrawal and defeat in Yugoslavia would reveal the real Chetnik position. Mihailovic and his apologists had claimed that Chetnik troops were being saved to fight the Germans at the moment of their collapse. But when the German positions in East Serbia did collapse, Chetnik troops were found on the side of the Germans, not against Recent reports from Serbia have stated that Chetnik and Nedic troops were so closely intermingled in certain areas as to have become virtually synonomous. Some units had Chetniks and Nedicists mixed together with a few German specialists; and Chetniks and Nedicists were together administering towns and villages in Eastern Serbia. The Chetniks were not only used by the Germans in their policy of "remote control" of areas away from the garrisons towns and lines of communications, but Chetnik troops were reported to be garrisoning certain towns in East Serbia as well as in Montenegro, and were defending the railway lines through Eastern Serbia to Belgrade. Other reports from the field in September 44 stated that Nedic and Mihailovic were believed to be in direct communication, and that there was evidence of an agreement between the Germans and Chetniks that on the German withdrawal from Zajecar the leader Ljuba Jovanovic was to take control over the whole area with Chetnik, Nedic and Ljotic troops under his command. The rapid Russian advance foiled this scheme.

Chetnik Documents
Documents captured by the Partisans in recent months throw further light on the degree and character of the collabora¬tion known to have taken place between the Chetniks and Nedicists and Germans. The documents mostly refer to events in June — September 1944. Not all documents captured by the Partisans have been made available, but an analysis of such Chetnik documents as have been seen by British officers (examples of these documents are given at Appendix "A") shows that they contain the following material:
1. Passes, identification documents and licences to carry arms furnished by the Germans for the Chetniks. (In one case a captured Chetnik carried Chetnik and Nedic identification documents, a German laissez-passer as a police agent and a German Waffenschein for carrying arms).
2. Military intelligence from Chetnik leaders to German and Nedic officials about Partisan movements; and detailed military orders showing coordination of military operations against the Partisans between Chetniks, Nedidists, Bulgars (before the Bulgarian capitulation) and the Germans.
3. A variety of intelligence reports from Chetniks to German officials containing such information as the bailing out of British and American airmen and their whereabouts; gossip about Partisan leaders; and a request for information about the attack of the Germans on Tito's Headquarters, etc.
4. Requests for Arms, ammunitions, food and clothing made by Chetnik Commanders to German officials.
5. Lists of food furnished weekly by the Germans to the Chetniks at Bileca. These included lists of food for 200 men for the weeks 17 — 23 August; 24 — 30 August; and 31 August to 6 September. They were signed by the German major, and countersigned by the Commander of the Trebinjska Brigade of
Chetniks.
6. Chetnik propaganda documents designed to improve Chetnik morale. One of these documents was a leaflet found on a Chetnik near the Kosmaj mountains early in September. It was printed in Cyrillic and described a so-called "American Military Mission" to Mihailovic; it named one of the members of the mission as Colonel Macdowell and described him as a "personal representative of President Roosevelt". Another is a Chetnik leaflet purporting to give orders from King Peter but in direct contradiction to the orders contained in the King's speech of 12 Sep. (1).
7. The contents of another Chetnik document have come into Allied hands. It was a "Z" list drawn up by the Chetniks at Leskovac and contained a list of a thousand names, of which 70 were marked for assassination and others for arrest or beating up, some being marked for delivery to the Nedic authorities or the Gestapo.

1 Political Report No. 3 of November 15, 1944, Allied Hq. Mediterranean deals with Chetnik activity in the period from July to November 1944. The foregoing text is an excerpt from this Report (p. 2 and 3).
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Procitao sam sve postove i morao da se registrujem da cestitam Koci na postavljenom materijalu i na brilijantnim odgovorima.Pozdravljam i "belog zeca"i Grubana.

Takodje bih se zahvalio i "drugovima" HEKTORIUSU i Kiselom1.prvom sto je konstantnim skidanjem informacija sa wikipedije ( Vrlo pouzdanog izvora:) ) i postavljanjem fotografija kojima se "potvrdjuje saradnja pripadnika JVuO i ustasa" a na kojima ustasa nema :hahaha: potvrdio svoje neznanje i nemoc pred ociglednim cinjenicama ( cudi me sto nisi objavio i onu fotku kad cetnici kao kolju zarobljenog partizana i vidi se da su glumci jer se svi pa i zrtva smeju i ta je bila dosta popularna u "dokazivanju" zlocina JVuO).I na kraju "drugu" kiselom1 sto me je razveselio svojim pricama i gubljenjima u sopstvenim neistinama kopiranju tekstova i postova sa B92 i objavljivanju "originalnih" dokumenata u sopstvenoj izradi dokazavsi time da im istina nije bitna.i sto je jos jednom pokazao na sta su sve "crveni" spremni. :hahaha: 'Drugovi" bili ste sjajni. :hahaha:
 
AGREEMENT BETWEEN COLONEL J. SIMIC AND
CAPTAIN N. KALABIC WITH GERMAN
COMMANDER SOUTHEAST

NAW
Mf. T — 77
R 882,
630907 — 908

Military Secret
Transcript

Telex Commander Southeast (Higher Command Army Group F) Ic No. 2364/43 Most Secret December 12, 1943

Excerpts from agreement between Military Commander Southeast and Chetnik leaders Captain Nikola Kalabic and Colonel Jevrem Simic (Inspector of D.M. Chetniks) of November 27, 1943:

1. Cease-fire in the districts of Umka, Vracar, Grocka,Podunavski, Kosmaj, Mladenovac, Oplenac, Arandjelovac, Lepenicki, Kragujevac, Gruza, Kacer and Kolubarski.
The Chetniks pledge themselves to cease with arbitrary administration of justice among the Germans and Volksdeutschers. The agreement shall extend to the German Wehrmacht and Police forces, Bulgarian Army, the Serbian Volunteer Corps, Serbian State Guard, Russian Protective Corps, Serbian authorities and business firms, and on the Chetnik detachments of Captain Kalabic and Colonel Simic.
2. The cease-fire should provide the basic pre-condition for joint struggle against the communists.
3. A statement shall be made by Kalabic and Simic to the effect that no member of the units under their command will fight on the side of the powers at war with Germany. Kalabic and Simic pledge to cut off all intelligence channels through which the enemies of the Greater German Wehrmacht might obtain information on German troop movements.
4. The placing of Chetnik detachments under German command in the course of larger-scale joint operations. During these periods combat missions shall be assigned to the Chetnik detachments by the German leadership.
5. Exchange of liaison staffs.
6. Deliveries of German ammunition supplies for the purpose of carrying out joint combat missions in accordance with military requirements.
7. The agreement is valid until December 31, 1943. Extension of term of validity possible provided treaty is loyally fulfilled by the Chetniks.
8. The agreement must be kept secret.
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AGREEMENT BETWEEN
PARTIZAN COMMANDERS J. BROZ AND P. DAPCHEVIC
WITH GERMAN COMMANDER SOUTHEAST

NAW
Mf. T — 77
R 993,
907630 — 977

Military Secret
Transcript

Telex Commander Southeast (Higher Command Army Group F) Ic No. 2436/464 Most Secret December 13, 1943

Excerpts from agreement between Military Commander Southeast and Partizan leaders Marshall J. Broz and Captain P. Dapchevic of November 27, 1943:

1. Cease-fire in the districts of Umka, Vracar, Grocka,Podunavski, Kosmaj, Mladenovac, Oplenac, Arandjelovac, Lepenicki, Kragujevac, Gruza, Kacer and Kolubarski.
The Partizans pledge themselves to cease with arbitrary administration of justice among the Germans and Volksdeutschers. The agreement shall extend to the German Wehrmacht and Police forces, Bulgarian Army, the Serbian Volunteer Corps, Serbian State Guard, Russian Protective Corps, Serbian authorities and business firms, and on all of the Partizan detachments.
2. The cease-fire should provide the basic pre-condition for joint struggle against bandits of D. Mihailovich.
3. A statement shall be made by Broz and Dapcevic to the effect that no member of the units under their command will fight on the side of the powers at war with Germany. Broz and Dapcevic pledge to cut off all intelligence channels through which the enemies of the Greater German Wehrmacht might obtain information on German troop movements.
4. The placing of Partizan detachments under German command in the course of larger-scale joint operations. During these periods combat missions shall be assigned to the Partizan detachments by the German leadership.
5. Exchange of liaison staffs.
6. Deliveries of German ammunition supplies for the purpose of carrying out joint combat missions in accordance with military requirements.
7. The agreement is valid until January 31, 1945. Extension of term of validity possible provided treaty is loyally fulfilled by the Partizans.
8. The agreement must be kept secret.
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Papir trpi sve.

Da je ovo istina, postojale bi evidencije o "liason staf" koje su navodno nemci razmenjivali kao i to da je dokument koji je na naslovu "Top Secret" ima nebuloznu klauzulu 8: Da se ovakav dogovor drzi kao tajna.
 
Salamander011:
Procitao sam sve postove i morao da se registrujem da cestitam Koci na postavljenom materijalu i na brilijantnim odgovorima.Pozdravljam i "belog zeca"i Grubana.

Takodje bih se zahvalio i "drugovima" HEKTORIUSU i Kiselom1.prvom sto je konstantnim skidanjem informacija sa wikipedije ( Vrlo pouzdanog izvora:) ) i postavljanjem fotografija kojima se "potvrdjuje saradnja pripadnika JVuO i ustasa" a na kojima ustasa nema :hahaha: potvrdio svoje neznanje i nemoc pred ociglednim cinjenicama ( cudi me sto nisi objavio i onu fotku kad cetnici kao kolju zarobljenog partizana i vidi se da su glumci jer se svi pa i zrtva smeju i ta je bila dosta popularna u "dokazivanju" zlocina JVuO).I na kraju "drugu" kiselom1 sto me je razveselio svojim pricama i gubljenjima u sopstvenim neistinama kopiranju tekstova i postova sa B92 i objavljivanju "originalnih" dokumenata u sopstvenoj izradi dokazavsi time da im istina nije bitna.i sto je jos jednom pokazao na sta su sve "crveni" spremni. :hahaha: 'Drugovi" bili ste sjajni. :hahaha:
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Hvala, pozivam i tebe da se ukljucis...Sprdanje sa crvenima nikad nije bilo zanimljivije...Sto se tice materijala, toga ce sve vise biti....Crveni ne shvataju na kojem je nivou ova forumska rasprava, a sta se zaista desava tamo gde je bitno...:D

Pozdrav!
 
Izgleda se kiseli dokopo Jozine knjige....pa odusevljeno spamuje...:zcepanje:

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Da zaboravimo komunisticke bajke i vratimo se ozbiljnim stvarima....:D

Slede dva ekskluzivna dokumenta, kao priprema za izdanje knjige dokumenata o spasavanju saveznickih pilota od strane JVuO za vreme rata...

Vec sam spomenuo na kojem nivou je rasprava ovde, a ne mozete ni da zamislite koliko velike stvari se rade po pitanju rehabilitacije Draze, i koliko dokumenata je izneto i iznosi se pred Okruzni sud u Beogradu....Sta je sve pronadjeno, sta se sve skrivalo svih ovih godina, itd....Zato vi koji ste za istinu, imate puno razloga za zadovoljstvo, jer konacna pobeda istine i pravda sve je bliza....u to nema sumnje...:D

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Ovo je nesto sto lokalne crvene ustase nisu do sada videle na netu...Dokumenti koji pokazuju okrsaje JVuO sa okupatorom, za oslobodjenje oborenih pilota. Dokumenta su iz Arhiva CIA. Predatu su Vojnom arhivu u Beogradu, klasifikovani u cetnickoj arhivi i predati sudijama za potrebu Drazine rehabilitacije, u delu o antiosovinskoj delatnosti djenerala Draze.

Od lokalnih crvenih ustasa imali smo prilike da cujemo da cetnici nisu opalili ni metak na okupatora....Dovoljno da se ukaze na njihove notorne, bezocne lazi? :mrgreen:

A koliko ovoga ima :D

Da vidimo ko laze...Samo istorija, i nista vise...Argumenti, dokumenti na videlo...istina nije zabranjena, zbog nje necemo na Goli otok...:D

Dosta je bilo bajki o Mirku i Slavku, i mladoj partizanki sto je puske nosila i bombe bacala...:lol:

Da li ima nekih demanta za ove dokumente po ustasko/bosnjackim forumima...trazi kiseli....Slobodna Jugoslavija, gorann2 cije postove kopiras, imaju li sta da kazu :mrgreen:...Pozuri na sajt CIA da nadjes dokument da ga nema...Znas oni dzaba to dele po internetu i vrse prezentaciju celokupne arhive OSS...cim cuju hrvate da se zanimaju za istinu - odmah dele sakom i kapom :zcepanje:
 
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