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The 373rd (Croat) Infantry Division - Tiger (8500 men)

On January 6th 1943, the German Army formed a second German-Croatian Division at Dollersheim (Germany), for service in Croatia on anti-Partisan duties. Titled 373.Infanterie-Division (Kroat.) or 373rd Infantry Division (Croat), the Division was nicknamed "Tigar" (Tiger) by its men. The Commander was German Lt.-General Emil Zellner. Most of the officer cadre was German, as were a large number of NCO's. Uniforms and rank insignia were German, with the Croatian armshield on the right sleeve.

The Division was organized into 2 Infantry-Grenadier Regiments - the 383rd and the 384th Croatian Regiments (of 3 Infantry Battalions and a Mortar Company each), an Artillery Regiment - the 373rd Croatian Artillery Regiment (2 Light Battalions of 3 Batteries and 1 heavy Battalion of 2 Batteries), and support units (Pioneer Battalion, Signals Battalion, Supply Troop, Maintenance Company, 3 Administration Companies, Medical Company, Veterinary Company and a Military Police Detachment). The Supply Company was horse-drawn.

The 373rd Division was assigned an Area of Operation, reaching from Karlovac in the east, to Sarajevo in the west, and from the Adriatic coast of Croatia in the south, to the Sava River in the north. Most of the anti-Partisan drives were in the Banja Luka - Bihac areas.

In May of 1944, the 373rd participated in Operation "Rosselsprung" (Knight's Move), the attempt to capture the Communist Partisan leader Tito. In the Fall of 1944, the Division absorbed the 2nd Jager Brigade of the Croatian Army as its 3rd Regiment (385th Croatian Infantry Regiment). On December 6th 1944, the 373rd participated in the defence of Knin, where it was heavily mauled. Survivors retreated to the northwest towards Bihac. By January of 1945, the Division's remnants were fighting in the Bihac area as part of German XVth Mountain Corps. Battles continued with the Division moving to the Kostajnica region in late April of 1945. Survivors surrendered to the Partisans west of Sisak in May of 1945.

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The 392nd (Croat) Infantry Division - Blaue (15 000 men)

On August 17th 1943, the German Army formed the last of the German-Croatian Divisions. Like the 373rd before it, the 392nd was founded at Dollersheim (Germany) for service in Croatia on anti-Partisan duties. Titled 392 Infanterie-Division (Kroat.) or 392nd Infantry Division (Croat), the Division was nicknamed "Plava" (Blue) by its men. The Commander was German Lt.-General Hans Mickl. Most of the officer cadre was German, as were a large number of NCO's.

Uniforms and rank insignia were German, with the Croatian armshield on the right sleeve. The Division was organized into 2 Infantry-Grenadier Regiments - the 364th and the 365th Croatian Regiments (of 3 Infantry Battalions and a Mortar Company each), an Artillery Regiment - the 392nd Croatian Artillery Regiment (2 Battalions with 3 Light Batteries each), and support units (Pioneer Battalion, Signals Battalion, Supply Troop, Maintenance Company, 3 Administration Companies, Medical Company, Veterinary Company and a Military Police Detachment). The Supply Company was horse-drawn.

The 392nd Division was assigned an Area of Operation, reaching from southern Slovenia, along the Croatian Adriatic coast, to the city of Knin. The Division fought mostly in the northern coastal area of Croatia, with its islands. It also took part in the German attempt to construct a security line around the Otocac - Bihac area, in January, 1945, after the fall of Knin.

Under severe Partisan attack, the 392nd made a fighting withdrawl westward until April 24th 1945 when north of Rijeka (Fiume) the German cadre released the Croatian soldiers from further service and surrendered to the Partisans.

 

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The Croatian Airforce Legion (8 000 men)

When Ante Pavelic's call on Croatian volunteers for the Eastern Front went out (July 2nd 1941), an airforce unit was quickly organized. A large number of volunteers had come forward, mostly from the already existing Croatian Airforce, and many had to be turned away.

Colonel Ivan Mrak was selected as the Commander of the Legion. The Legion itself was organized into a Fighter Squadron (commanded by Lt.Colonel Franjo Dzal) and a Bomber Squadron (commanded by Lt.Colonel Vjekoslav Vicevic). The Fighter Squadron was itself further divided into 2 Wings, as was the Bomber Squadron. The Air Legion departed from Croatia for training in Germany on July 15th 1941.

The Fighter Squadron:

One Wing of the Fighter Squadron was sent to the area of Furth, Germany, for training, the other to Herzogen Aurah Airfield, nearby. Training commenced on July 19th 1941, on Arado 96 and Me D aircraft, and lasted to the end of September 1941 at which time the Legionnaires were deemed ready for the Eastern Front and received Messerschmitt Bf109 fighter planes. During the course of their training, the men had been issued Luftwaffe uniforms adorned with the Croatian armshield and the Croatian Airforce Legion badge on the right breast pocket.

The Squadron received the official designation '15.(Kroatische)/JG 52', and arrived to its first Eastern Front airfield on October 6th 1941, near Poltava. On October 9th 1941, the Squadron has its first taste of action, when, in the Ahtijevka-Krasnograd area, a Soviet R10 was shot down. The kill was given to the German liason pilot to the Squadron, Lt. Baumgarten. The Squadron was transfered at the end of October 1941 to Taganrog, and stayed in this area till December 1st 1941. The first kill by a Croatian pilot occured in this time period by Captain Ferencina, and the second by Lt.Colonel Dzal.

On December 1st 1941, the Squadron transfered to Marinpol. Attacks were made on Soviet armoured columns around Pokorovskoje, Matvejeva, Kurgan, Jeiska and Uspenskoje, and on the railway line Marinpol-Stalino. As well, the Squadron escorted German bombers on their missions. By the end of January 1942, the Squadron had shot down 23 Soviet airplanes (of this, 4 were MIG-6 fighters). At the end of March 1942, the Squadron received a telegrams from the Commander of 4.Fliegerkorp, General Flugbeil, and the Commander of 4.Luftflotte, Colonel-General Lohr, congratulating them on their successes. In April 1942, the Squadron flew escort missions for Stuka bombers, guarded the Marinpol airfield, and strafes Soviet troops in the Azov Sea area. Nine more Soviet airplanes were shot down in this period.

In May, the Squadron was transfered first to the Krimea, and shortly thereafter, to the Artemovka-Konstantinovka region. From this base of operation, the Squadron flew escort missions for bombers attacking Sevastopol and patrolled the Azov Sea area. Four more Soviet planes were downed, and a Soviet patrol boat was also sunk. From the end of May, till June 21st 1942 (the date of the Squadron's 1000 flight), 21 more Soviet planes were shot down. From this date till the end of July 1942, 69 more planes are shot down.

The Squadron continued with its fine performances until July 1944 when it was returned to Croatia to combat the increasing Partisan menace. By this time, the Squadron had tallied 283 kills, had 14 pilots with Ace status, and 4 pilots (Culinovic, Galic, Milkovic and Kauzlaric) that had been decorated with the EKI and EKII.

The Fighter Squadron's losses during their service on the Eastern Front totaled an incredibly low 2 planes and 5 pilots!

The Bomber Squadron:

Officially designated '15.(Kroatische)/KG 53'., the bomber squadron was equipped with Dornier Do17 aircraft. It arrived on the Eastern Front on October 25th 1941, after training at the Grosse Kampfflieger Schule 3, in Greifswald, Germany. Their first area of operations was near Vitebsk. The rest of the Bomber Squadron's assignments were in the Northern Sector of the Eastern Front, including the bombing of Leningrad and Moscow. On November 9th 1941, the Squadron was congratulated by Fieldmarshall Kesselring for its actions thus far. After flying 1247 sorties on the Eastern Front, the Squadron was disolved in December of 1942, and integrated into the Croatian Airforce for battle against the Partisans. During the time it was active, 5 aircraft and 20 men were lost by the Squadron.

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The Croatian Naval Legion (4000 men)

Soon after Pavelic's call for Croatian volunteers to fight on the Eastern Front went out on July 2nd 1941, enough naval officers and men came forward to form the Croatian Naval Brigade. This Brigade had all together 343 members, of which 23 were officers, 220 NCO's and 100 sailors.

It is interesting to note that Italy had vetoed the forming of a Croatian national Navy that would serve in the Adriatic Sea, so all of the best naval personnel in Croatia stepped forward into German service. (The Italians had no problems with the formation of a Croatian Legion unit that would serve on the Eastern Front).

Shortly after formation, the Brigade received the title "Croatian Naval Legion" (Hrvatska Pomorska Legija), and became a part of the German Navy (Kriegsmarine). The first commander was Frigate Captain Andro Vrkljan. He was later replaced by Battleship Captain Stjepan Rumenovic.

The Naval Legion was sent for training to Varna, Bulgaria, on the Black Sea. Upon arrival in Varna on July 17th 1941, the Croatian Legionnaires received their uniforms and started with training on German minesweepers and submarines, as they were to be the future crews of these ships in the Black Sea. The training during this period, over and above the required naval training on the boats, consisted of infantry training, signals training, rowing, and German language instruction. German Admiral Schuster was one of the dignitaries that paid a visit to the Croatian Legionnaires during their training in Bulgaria.

Training was completed on September 22nd 1941, and on the same day the Legion set off for the Soviet Union, where they arrived on the 30th of September 1941. The official military designation for the Legion was 23.Minesuch-Flottilla, or 23rd Minesweeping Flotilla.

At the end of September 1941, the Legion was stationed in Geniscek. The town was fortified shortly after the unit arrived and patrolling commenced - both shore patrols and patrols along the coastline. A report from this period indicated that the Croatian sailors were "eager to do battle".

An attack on Geniscek in late 1941 by the Soviets was destroyed thanks to Luftwaffe intervention. At the time only the Croatian Legion, a squad of Romanian cavalry and a small German garrison were present to defend the town. The Winter was passed in digging bunkers, and keeping warm. During this period Captain Vrkljan of the Legion was travelling with a German inspection team throughout the region. Amongst other adventures, the Inspection team fought as infantry in the town of Teodozija during a Soviet attack. During these long, cold, boring Winter months, the Soviets attempted to destroy the troop moral by continuously dropping propaganda leaflets, which, among other things, poked fun at the Germans for having a bad Christmas, and trying to convince them that only surrender will bring about the possibility of ever having another good one. All leaflets ended with "Long live Moscow! Down with Hitler". The Croatian Legionnaires used the leaflets in their stoves.

At the begining of April 1942, the ice in the Geniscek harbour finally began to loosen, and the Croatians prepared to depart from Geniscek. Being well liked by the locals, the Town Council of Geniscek named a street "Hrvatska" (Croatia) in their honor.

By mid-April, the ice was almost gone, and the Croatian ships could once again set sail. Mines were ordered placed around the harbour entrance as a defense against possible Soviet attack, however, in a catastrophic accident during the laying of the mines, 25 Croatians were killed and 2 boats destroyed. On May 25th 1942, the Croatian naval flotilla sailed out of Geniscek. They had manned their positions in this small town for 8 months, and had defended it from all attacks with poise and courage, and had sustained minimal losses.

In August of 1942, the Legion was at Marinpol. The Legion at this time had 31 MFK's (Motorfischkuter), and 35 other motor boats under their command. Including the command ship "Tovaris" (captured from the Soviet navy) and other smaller boats, the Legion was 130 boats strong. The Legion's commander, besides his Croatian crews, also commanded 200 German sailors that had been assigned to the Legion. The German contingent was commanded by Ensign Plautz.

Just prior to New Years Eve, 1942, the Legion transfered their ships to new crews, and were sent to Croatia for rest. After this, they were sent to Germany for further training, and after this back to Varna. In October of 1943, the Legion was transferred to Trieste, where men of the Legion were assigned to various Kriegsmarine ships, thereby officially ending the Croatian's service as a single unit of the German Navy.

It is interesting to note that, during their tour of duty in the Crimea, Sea of Azov and the Black Sea, the Croatians managed to recruit into their ranks several former Red Army sailors of Ukrainian nationality. Some of these Ukrainians brought their ships with them to the Croatians!

A Croatian Coastal Artillery Battery was also attached to the Legion in the summer of 1943.

The Croatian Legionnaires wore regular Kriegsmarine uniforms with only the red-white checkerboard shield of Croatia on their left arm to distinguish them. The coastal artillery wore German field grey, with the arm-shield.

 

[GODFATHER10]

Koji mi??

Kako koji ,vi?! Pa,VI ...Koji ste jedva cekali da cinite zlocine nad Srbima
Iz simbioze i genetike ,koja vas krasi ka teskim zlocinima

 

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The 13th Waffen SS Mountain Division "Handschar" (Croatian Nr.1) - (26 000 men)

When the Independant State of Croatia proclaimed its independance on April 10th 1941, during the German invasion of Yugoslavia, part of the land it claimed was the former Austro-Hungarian province of Bosnia-Herzegovina (Bosna i Hercegovina). The province was an ethnic and religious mix, with a portion of the population being Catholic Croatian, a portion being Orthodox Serbian, and a portion being Croatians of the Muslim faith. It was these Muslim inhabitants of Bosnia that Himmler and the SS would target in their recruitment of a Croatian SS Division (although a portion of the future division's men would be Catholic Croatian as well).

The reasons for the recruitment in particular of Croatian Muslims by the SS were many-fold. For one, Himmler was fascinated by the Islamic faith, and thought Muslims to be fearless soldiers. Himmler also subscribed to the propaganda theory that Croatians (and therefore the Croatian Muslims) were not, in fact, Slavic people, but actually of Aryan (Gothic) descent, and thereby acceptable to the racially "pure" SS. The fact that this ludicrous theory would not hold up to any kind of serious scrutiny was conveniently ignored. Finally, the Germans were hoping to rally the World's 350 million Muslims to their side, in a struggle against the British Empire. The creation of a Muslim, albeit European Muslim Division, was considered a stepping stone to this greater end.

Adolf Hitler approved of Himmler's idea on February 13th 1943. Prior to the formation of the division, however, approval also had to be granted by the Croatian government, as their citizens were to be recruited, and on Croatian territory. The Croatian Poglavnik, Ante Pavelic, and his ministers had many problems with the idea, but eventually agreed to the division's creation on March 5th 1943. The divisional strength reached the required 26,000 men by mid 1943, though not all men were volunteers (some being begged, bribed and outright kidnapped into service). Also, 2,800 of the men were Catholic Croatians and not Muslim.

The new division was assigned the number "13", and originally named the "13 SS Frei.Gebirgs Division (kroatien). The full name "13 Waffen-Gebirgs-Division der SS 'Handschar' (kroatische Nr. 1)" was not given until May, 1944. A "Handschar" (or Handzar in Croatian) is curved Turkish sword - the Scimitar. This sword has historically been the symbol of Bosnia. The Division was to have 2 Infantry Regiments (Waffen-Gebirgs-Jager Regiments der SS 27 & 28 - kroatisches Nrs. 1 & 2), an Artillery Regiment (SS-Gebirgs-Artillerie Regiment 13), a Reconnaisance Company, a Panzerjager Company, a Flak Company, a Pioneer Battalion, and other support units; and was designated an SS "mountain" division. The first commander (from March 9, 1943 till August 1, 1943) was SS Standartenfuhrer Herbert von Obwurzer. Oberfuhrer (later Brigadefuhrer) Karl-Gustav Sauberzweig took over till June 1st 1944, when Desiderius Hampel (Oberfuhrer, later Brigadefuhrer) replaced him. Hampel commanded the remnants of the division until its surrender on May 8th 1945.

The uniform worn by the division was regular SS issue, with a divisional collar patch showing an arm, holding a Scimitar, over a Swastika. On the left arm was a Croatian armshield (red-white chessboard). Headgear was the Muslim Fez, in field grey (normal service) or red ("walking out"), with the SS eagle and death's head emblazoned. Non-Muslim members could opt to wear the normal SS mountain cap. The oval mountain troop Edelweiss patch was worn on the right arm.

The division departed for training in occupied France, where the full complement arrived by September 1943. It was at Villefranche, during this period of training, that the division became the only SS Division to mutiny. Much has been made of this, however, while it is true that some German officers were killed during the mutiny, the fact is that only very few soldiers participated in the uprising. Fault can be squarely placed on 3 Communists, infiltrated into the ranks of the division, and a handfull of malcontents. Not only did a great majority of the troops not participate in the rebellion, but most either had no idea it was happening, or actively helped to quash it. 14 soldiers were executed as mutineers.

By mid-February 1944, the division finished its training (some time was spent at Neuhammer, Germany for training), and was sent back to Bosnia for active service (against Communist Partisans). Its area of operation was northeastern Bosnia, western Serbia, and southern Sirmium. The division participated in several anti-Partisan operations (such as "Wegweiser", "Save", "Osterei", "Maibaum", "Maiglockchen" etc.). Some successes were achieved, and overall the "Handschar" showed itself as a competent anti-guerilla unit.

With the penetration of the Red Army up to the Croatian borders in late 1944, the Division was trasfered to southern Hungary, and became involved in front-line fighting. Desertions plagued the Division from this point on, as many of the Muslims decided to return to Bosnia to protect their homes and families. The men who remained contiuned to fight valiantly against overwhelming odds, and were slowly pushed westward out of Hungary into Austria. The remnants of the division surrendered to British troops on May 8th 1945.

In conclusion, one must say that the "Handschar" Division was certainly not a top-of-the line, elite SS unit. However, when engaged in the areas and battles its men were promised to fight in (that is, in Bosnia, against Communist forces) the division fought well. Certainly, the majority of claims in much of the WW2 literature that the "Handschar" was "bad, prone to attrocities" etc, as claims by authors who have not studied the subject fully, but rather parrot one another without proper research. Men of the "Handschar" won 5 Knight's Crosses, 5 Crosses in Gold, and 1 Cross in Silver.

 

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The 23rd Waffen SS Mountain Division "Kama" (3793 men)

Adolf Hitler gave approval for the raising of a 2nd Croatian Waffen SS division on June 17, 1944, giving this fledgling division the honorary title "Kama" (a short Turkish sword), and assigning the divisional number 23. The full title of the division was therefore: 23.Waffen-Geb.Div. der SS "Kama" (kroatische Nr. 2). The decision was also made to raise a Corps command that would eventually lead the 13th SS Division ("Handzar") and the 23rd SS Division ("Kama"). Actual recruitment for the "Kama" Division had started on June 10th 1944. A sizeable number of German officers and NCO's were made available to the division. Croatian officers and men from the "Handzar" Division were also transfered to "Kama", including the entire Reconnaissance Battalion. To this core of troops was added a new batch of Croatian/Croatian-Muslim recruits.

At its peak strength in September 1944, "Kama" had 3,793 men. Fearing Partisan disruption of the new division in training, the assembly site chosen for the division was the Backa Region. Backa had been annexed by Hungary following the invasion of Yugoslavia in 1941, and was far enough from negative outside influences on the troops.

The division began to take shape in July and August of 1944. During the month of September 1944, the Red Army made dangerous advances into the Balkans and Hungary. The training bases for the "Kama" Division were suddenly precariously close to the front lines. The SS-FHA attempted to get the division ready for combat, citing the unrealistic date of September 24 as when the unit would be ready for frontline service. The training state of the recruits was still in the basic stage, however. It would be sheer suicide to commit the division to front-line service!

The unrealistic date of committal passed. The SS-FHA soon realized that no time was left for the "Kama" Division to form. As the Red Army moved into Hungary, German military leaders decided to disband the unit and make as much use of the personnel as possible by transferring them as replacemetns to other divisions. The decision was made in October, 1944, and most of the divisional elements went ot the 31st SS Division.

The Muslims of "Kama" were ordered to report to the "Handzar" Division. Some of them deserted on the way to "Handzar" headquarters, most reported for duty. Divisional number "23" was then given to the Dutch Panzer-Grenadier Division just being formed.

During its short, 5 month existence, "Kama" commander was SS-Stardartenfuhrer Hellmut Raithel. A collar patch depicting a sun was designed for the division, but few were actually produced.

The "Kama" Division was envisioned as an anti-Partisan unit, but the worsening German military situation required that the division's organization be aborted.

 

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Croatia Police Regiments 1-5, Police Anti-Tank Company "Croatia", and Gendarmerie Division "Croatia" (32 000 men)

On July 15th 1943, an agreement was signed between the Independant State of Croatia and Germany, by which a German-Croatian Police Force (Deutsch-Kroatische Polizei), under German Police & SS command, was to be raised and organized. The Commander of this new force was SS Major-General Konstantine Kammerhofer, and was intended for "internal security duties". Initially, one regiment, consisting of 2 battalions, was formed, but the strength of this force continually grew. By the Spring of 1944, 15 Battalions had been formed, organized into 5 regiments. These regiments were named "Polizei Freiwilligen-Regiment" and numbered 1-5. As well, 15 Independant Police Battalions were raised, titled Polizei-Freiwilligen-Bataillon 'Kroatien', and numbered 1-15. In early 1945, 12 of these battalions were joined into a "Gendarmerie Division Croatia", but by all accounts, this was a "paper division", as the battalions were scattered all over Croatian territory, and the new headquarters couldn't possibly gather them together under the logistical and strategic circumstances of the time.

The BdO (Befelshaber der Ordnungspolizei) in Zagreb, in December of 1944, raised a "Polizei Panzer-Jaeger Kompanie Kroatien", that was independant of the above regiments and division.

All together, 32,000 Croatians served in these German police units, and, while not frontline troops, helped keep order and defend strategic positions throughout the Independant State of Croatia.

Pored ove hrvatske policije pod nemackom komandom - bilo je 11 600 Hrvata u tzv. "Oruznistvu" - policiji pod zapovednistvom NDHa. 43 600 probranih Hrvata nacista je sluzilo u fasisticko-nacistickim policijskim strukturama - NAJODABRANIJI - i gle cuda, Kocovic, Hrvati i komunisti "zaboravljaju" na sve ove policijske formacije sastavljene od najvecih ustasa i nacista.

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The Light Transport Brigade (Italian-Croatian) (1 215 men)

In July 1941, Italian General Antonio Oxilio requested an audience with Croatian Poglavnik Ante Pavelic. During their meeting, General Oxilio presented Pavelic with a letter from the Italian High Command, asking that a Legion, even a symbolic one, be formed by Croatia for service in the Italian Army, on the Eastern Front. The fact was that the Italians felt hurt. The Croatians were serving with Germany in the Soviet Union, and yet, no one had advised the Italians of this, let alone asked for their permission. The Croatians, although not pleased with this request, decided not to insult an ally, even a dubious one. Therefore, on July 26th 1941, the Croatian Army Command issued the appropriate orders, and the "Light Transport Brigade" (Laki Prijevozni Zdrug) came into being. The majority of the troops for the unit came from a battalion of volunteers that were intended as reinforcements for the 369th Regiment in Russia.

The Brigade was formed with 1100 soldiers, 70 NCO's and 45 Officers (1215 total), divided into 3 Infantry Companies, 1 Machine-Gun Company, 1 (81mm) Mortar Company and 1 (65mm) Artillery Battery. The Commanding Officer was Lt.-Colonel Egon Zitnik (a Croat).

The Brigade's first posting was in the city of Varazdin, in Croatia, where they trained, and awaited the Italians to organize their expeditionary force. The wait stretched on, as the Italians had many organizing problems. In the meantime, the Brigade performed sweeps in the Kordun, Banija and Bosanska Krajina regions of Croatia, searching for small groups of Yugoslav soldiers and bands of outlaws that were hiding in the forests and fighting against the new Croatian state.

On December 17th 1941, the Italians finally ordered the Brigade to travel to Italy where they received their full complement of weapons and transports. 3 Months of intense training exercises followed. At the end of the training schedule, the Legionnaires were visited by General Ugo Cavallerio of the Italian Headquarters Staff, and the Minister of Defense of Croatia, Slavko Kvaternik. The Brigades battle flag was presented at this ceremony, and the men took their oath to Italy, Croatia, the Duce, the Italian King, and the Poglavnik.

The Brigade arrived at the Eastern Front on April 16th 1942, near the town of Harcjusk. Here they were attached to the Italian 3rd Rapid Division "Principe Amadeo Duca D'Aosta", and received the remainder of their equipment and transports (44 trucks, 3 automobiles and 6 motorcycles). On the 11th of May, near the town of Pervomajska, the Brigade fought its first battle, alongside the 63rd Blackshirt "Tagliamento" unit. 5 men were lost in this minor engagement.

The Brigade, during the next 10 months, fought around the towns of Stokovo, Greko-Timofejevka, and Veseli-Nikitovo. On July 11th 1942, the Brigade was transfered to the Italian XXXVth Corps. The very next day, with a battle-group of Blackshirts, the Brigade fought its way 30km deep into Soviet lines. Battles follow around Vladimirovka, Krasna Poljana and Fjodorovka. On July 28th 1942 the Brigade crossed the Donjec River at Lubanskoje. On August 25th 1942, the Soviets counter-attacked and the Brigade was involved in heavy fighting. The Croatians managed to hold their lines, inflicting 20 casualties and capturing 101 Russian soldiers. The Croatians lost 8 dead and 12 wounded. For this battle, the Brigade was awarded the "Sul Campo" decoration by the commander of the XXXVth Corps.

On December 19th 1942, the Brigade was holding Hills 210 and 168 near Hracin. Here they were surrounded by a massive Soviet attack, but continued fighting till December 21st 1942, when they ran out of ammunition and were over-run. There were no survivors and the unit was totally destroyed.

Njihove udovice su ocito presle na stranu partizana. - a Tito nije imao razloga da ih pominje - da ne staje na njihovu ljutu ranu

 

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The Italian Croatian Legion (1 800 men)

After the destruction of the "Light Transport Brigade", the Italians sponsored the creation of a new "Legion" unit. It came into existance in May of 1943, only 4 months before the Italian collapse, as a 1,800 man strong Infantry Regiment, reinforced with its own Replacement Battalion and an Artillery Battalion of 2 Batteries. This "Legion" was sent to northern Italy, to the Lake Garda area, and then the Italian-Slovene border area. After the Italian surrender, the men of the Legion were used to reinforce the existing German-Croatian Divisions, specially the 373rd "Tiger" Division.

 

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Oko 120 000 Hrvata pod direktnom komandom Hitlera + 212 000 pod komandom Pavelica. = 332 000 Hrvata nacista pod oruzjem.

+ Drzavni aparat NDH
+ sudstvo
+ svestenstvo
+ clanovi vlade, Sabora itd - koji su nacisticke uloge obavljali u civilu

 

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Kako koji ,vi?! Pa,VI zohari krvati u AU...Koji ste jedva cekali da cinite zlocine nad Srbima
Iz simbioze i genetike ,koja vas krasi ka teskim zlocinima

Bilo je popriličan broj rba i AU vojsci, Ljutih Krajišnika, Bosanaca i Lala..

 

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The 392nd (Croat) Infantry Division - Blaue (15 000 men)

On August 17th 1943, the German Army formed the last of the German-Croatian Divisions. Like the 373rd before it, the 392nd was founded at Dollersheim (Germany) for service in Croatia on anti-Partisan duties. Titled 392 Infanterie-Division (Kroat.) or 392nd Infantry Division (Croat), the Division was nicknamed "Plava" (Blue) by its men. The Commander was German Lt.-General Hans Mickl. Most of the officer cadre was German, as were a large number of NCO's.

Uniforms and rank insignia were German, with the Croatian armshield on the right sleeve. The Division was organized into 2 Infantry-Grenadier Regiments - the 364th and the 365th Croatian Regiments (of 3 Infantry Battalions and a Mortar Company each), an Artillery Regiment - the 392nd Croatian Artillery Regiment (2 Battalions with 3 Light Batteries each), and support units (Pioneer Battalion, Signals Battalion, Supply Troop, Maintenance Company, 3 Administration Companies, Medical Company, Veterinary Company and a Military Police Detachment). The Supply Company was horse-drawn.

The 392nd Division was assigned an Area of Operation, reaching from southern Slovenia, along the Croatian Adriatic coast, to the city of Knin. The Division fought mostly in the northern coastal area of Croatia, with its islands. It also took part in the German attempt to construct a security line around the Otocac - Bihac area, in January, 1945, after the fall of Knin.

Under severe Partisan attack, the 392nd made a fighting withdrawl westward until April 24th 1945 when north of Rijeka (Fiume) the German cadre released the Croatian soldiers from further service and surrendered to the Partisans.

Nova masovna grobnica s ostacima više od 4000 pripadnika njemačke 'Plave divizije'

Plava divizija predala se partizanima kod Rijeke početkom 1945. godine. Većina njezinih pripadnika bili su hrvatski folkdojčeri koje je vodilo oko 500 njemačkih oficira. Svi su pobijeni.

http://www.jutarnji.hr/nova-masovna...-pripadnika-njemacke--plave-divizije-/200763/

Lako se nađe i ovo...

 

[GODFATHER10]

Bilo je popriličan broj rba i AU vojsci, Ljutih Krajišnika, Bosanaca i Lala..

Bilo je PM.To je vasa iluzija koju servirate bezuspesno

 

[piciginx]

Bilo je PM.To je vasa iluzija koju servirate bezuspesno

Bilo je u 3 PM od cc 2.000.000 koliko je živjelo u AU monarhiji..

Ako ništa drugo to je lako provjeriti.

 

[$zloduh]

Bilo je u 3 PM od cc 2.000.000 koliko je živjelo u AU monarhiji..

Ako ništa drugo to je lako provjeriti.

Verujem da se poneki Srbin pridružio Svetozaru Boroeviću, jednom od najcenjenijih feldmaršala u AU vojsci.

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Oko 120 000 Hrvata pod direktnom komandom Hitlera + 212 000 pod komandom Pavelica. = 332 000 Hrvata nacista pod oruzjem.

+ Drzavni aparat NDH
+ sudstvo
+ svestenstvo
+ clanovi vlade, Sabora itd - koji su nacisticke uloge obavljali u civilu

Tokom celog rata. Ali ove cifre su preterane.
I opet je bilo više Hrvata u partizanima, nego na strani nacista.

A u Srbiji bilo cca 35.000 četnika, pa opet broj antifašista (partizana) nije mogao da ih nadmaši.

Žalosno.

 

[Kroasanije]

Prvo,ovo sto Kopaonik navodi nije nista novo,sve ove jedinice koje je naveo su neosporno postojale,ali on naprosto uzima ukupan broj unovacenih/dragovoljaca tijekom cijelog rata,dalje,uzima ladno i Muslimane 13. i 23. divizija,zaboravlja da je u 373,369 i 392 bilo puno Svaba,ne uzima u obzir stope dezertiranja(ima u onoj knjizi koju sam postavio nesto o tome,a brojevi ljudi u HOS-u krajem 44. godine su takoder prenapuhani tj po papirima ih je vjerojatno bilo toliko,ali u stvarnosti oko 40-50%od tog broja.Opet,postavljeno je u onoj knjizi nesto,a ima vjerojatno jos bolje samo mi se ne da kopat sad.

Sam komandant zapadno-slavonskog korpusa SVK kaze kako je po papirima imao oko 9500 ljudi a na terenu 3 do 3 ipo tisuce ljudi,tako je bilo i sa OSNDH,nije logicno pretpostaviti drugacije,na kraju krajeva,ima popis onaj koji sam stavio,koji detaljno daje popis ljudi po svakom mjestu,doduse za dio OSNDH.

Handzar divizija se npr vec 44.godine,u ljeto krenula opasno raspadati,da bi se potpuno raspala do jeseni 44
ter a request from Army Group F to Himmler, a decision was made to move IX SS Mountain Corps and the division to perform road and railway security duties near Zagreb. This would relieve LXIX Army Corps from those duties so that it could reinforce a defensive line along the Drina facing the advancing Red Army. The 28th Regiment, I/27 and III/AR 13 were to remain behind at the Brčko bridgehead to keep the Sava river bridge open.[108] The heavy desertions from the division were the main reason for the move from north-east Bosnia to northern Croatia,[109] but it made matters worse: the Bosnians were very reluctant to leave Bosnia and the already serious desertion rate became a flood when the move began on 16 October 1944. Many took their weapons with them and hundreds joined the Partisans.[110] In mid-October, 700 members of the division stationed at Orašje joined the Partisans, and were distributed between the 17th Majevica Brigade and 21st East Bosnian Brigade.[111]

 

[GeorgeV]

Verujem da se poneki Srbin pridružio Svetozaru Boroeviću, jednom od najcenjenijih feldmaršala u AU vojsci.

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Tokom celog rata. Ali ove cifre su preterane.
I opet je bilo više Hrvata u partizanima, nego na strani nacista.

A u Srbiji bilo cca 35.000 četnika, pa opet broj antifašista (partizana) nije mogao da ih nadmaši.

Žalosno.

Ni u Hrvatskoj broj partizana Hrvata nije ni u mašti mogao da nadmaši broj ustaša i ostalih...

Znaš zašto?

Zato što su se borili uglavnom u Bosni tokom celog rata...baš kao i gro Srba iz Srbije...

Žalosno...a tolike divizije i korpusi...

 

[Kroasanije]

Za zloglasnu 369.diviziju;

n September 1943, total strength of the division was 12.883 men, 3.701 of which were Germans.[
For example, during October 1943, 489 men deserted from the division

Over the following months the Division, together with the NDH forces and the Chetniks, fought the Partisans without decisive success. On 26 and 28 March Anti-Tank Battalion with artillery elements, the NDH police unit, and Chetnik detachment, carried out an attack from Stolac towards Ljubinje.[14]

by April 1945 a large part of the Croatian manpower of the division had been lost or released, with the Croatian manpower of the division only numbering between 2,000 and 3,000 soldiers.

373.

Ljubija was defended by 1st Battalion of the 383rd Regiment of the 373rd Division, 4th and 6th Battalion of the 8th Ustaša Brigade, and Ustaša Militia, with total strength of around 2,000 men. They were reinforced with the mixed Home Guard, Ustaša and Chetnik group from Prijedor.

On 6 December 1944, the division participated in the defence of Knin against the Partisans, where it suffered serious losses.[52] In January 1945, Gravenstein was promoted to Generalmajor,[3] and withdrew the survivors of the division to the northwest towards Bihać.[53] During this withdrawal, the division assisted the 6,000–7,000 Chetniks of Momčilo Đujić that had fought alongside them

Dakle imali smo situaciju da Hrvati i Srbi oslobadaju Knin od Nijemaca,Hrvata i Srba

 

[Kroasanije]

Idemo dalje,

Koncem jula 1994. borbena vrednost hrvatskih vojnih jedinica pala je toliko nisko, da su nemačke vojne vlasti rešile da potpuno reorganizuju hrvatsku vojsku. Nemački general von Weichs dao je sledeći predlog: s obzirom na ozbiljnost situacije, da hrvatsku armiju mora od sada isključivo upotrebiti tako, da služi nemačkim ciljevima, kako bi se poštedela nemačka krv. Ovo se može postići samo tako da se sve hrvatske vojne jedinice odmah stave pod nemačku komandu i da se popune nemačkim vojnicima.[2]
– Ratni dnevnik Vrhovne komande Vermahta
Veliki udar za hrvatsku vojsku dogodio se u jesen 1944, kada je Tito uputio apel hrvatskim vojnicima, koji glasi: svi hrvatski vojnici, koji se priključe partizanskoj vojsci od 15. septembra 1944, biće amnestirani. Tada je iz "domobrana" pobeglo mnogo hrvatskih vojnika, a posebno veliki procenat dezertera čine oficiri hrvatske vojske.[2]
– Ratni dnevnik Vrhovne komande Vermahta

 

[piciginx]

Prvo,ovo sto Kopaonik navodi nije nista novo,sve ove jedinice koje je naveo su neosporno postojale,ali on naprosto uzima ukupan broj unovacenih/dragovoljaca tijekom cijelog rata,dalje,uzima ladno i Muslimane 13. i 23. divizija,zaboravlja da je u 373,369 i 392 bilo puno Svaba,ne uzima u obzir stope dezertiranja(ima u onoj knjizi koju sam postavio nesto o tome,a brojevi ljudi u HOS-u krajem 44. godine su takoder prenapuhani tj po papirima ih je vjerojatno bilo toliko,ali u stvarnosti oko 40-50%od tog broja.Opet,postavljeno je u onoj knjizi nesto,a ima vjerojatno jos bolje samo mi se ne da kopat sad.

Sam komandant zapadno-slavonskog korpusa SVK kaze kako je po papirima imao oko 9500 ljudi a na terenu 3 do 3 ipo tisuce ljudi,tako je bilo i sa OSNDH,nije logicno pretpostaviti drugacije,na kraju krajeva,ima popis onaj koji sam stavio,koji detaljno daje popis ljudi po svakom mjestu,doduse za dio OSNDH.

Handzar divizija se npr vec 44.godine,u ljeto krenula opasno raspadati,da bi se potpuno raspala do jeseni 44
ter a request from Army Group F to Himmler, a decision was made to move IX SS Mountain Corps and the division to perform road and railway security duties near Zagreb. This would relieve LXIX Army Corps from those duties so that it could reinforce a defensive line along the Drina facing the advancing Red Army. The 28th Regiment, I/27 and III/AR 13 were to remain behind at the Brčko bridgehead to keep the Sava river bridge open.[108] The heavy desertions from the division were the main reason for the move from north-east Bosnia to northern Croatia,[109] but it made matters worse: the Bosnians were very reluctant to leave Bosnia and the already serious desertion rate became a flood when the move began on 16 October 1944. Many took their weapons with them and hundreds joined the Partisans.[110] In mid-October, 700 members of the division stationed at Orašje joined the Partisans, and were distributed between the 17th Majevica Brigade and 21st East Bosnian Brigade.[111]

Malo se dasa poigrao sa podacima..

 

[Kopaonik2]

Tokom celog rata. Ali ove cifre su preterane.
I opet je bilo više Hrvata u partizanima, nego na strani nacista.

A u Srbiji bilo cca 35.000 četnika, pa opet broj antifašista (partizana) nije mogao da ih nadmaši.

Žalosno.

Kako da ne.... brojcano stanje sredjenih podataka po jedinicama iznosi 332 000 a podaci NDHa govore o 390 000 Hrvata u oruzanim snagama:

POSTROJ I BROJ^ANO STANJE PODHVATNIH DIVIZIJA HOS-a

I. HRVATSKA UDARNA DIVIZIJA - KRI@EVCI 10.799 I. SBOR

1-va DIVIZIJA - KOSTAJNICA 11.006 II. SBOR

2-ga DIVIZIJA - VARA@DIN 9.877 I. SBOR

3-~a DIVIZIJA - VINKOVCI 12.608 III. SBOR

4-ta DIVIZIJA - DVOR na UNI 12.279 IV. SBOR

5-ta DIVIZIJA - KOPRIVNICA 10.777 I. SBOR

6-ta DIVIZIJA - BANJA LUKA 12.680 IV. SBOR

7-ma DIVIZIJA - OSIJEK 15.647 III. SBOR

8-ma DIVIZIJA - SARAJEVO 10.278 III. SBOR

9-ta DIVIZIJA - TUZLA 12.847 III. SBOR

10-ta DIVIZIJA - BIHA] 11.779 V. SBOR

11-ta DIVIZIJA - GOSPI] 12.316 V. SBOR

12-ta DIVIZIJA - MOSTAR 17.620 Van Sborova

13-ta DIVIZIJA - KARLOVAC 13.512 V. SBOR

14-ta DIVIZIJA - DOBOJ 14.822 Van Sborova

15-ta DIVIZIJA - PETRINJA 9.722 IV. SBOR

16-ta DIVIZIJA - ZAGREB 7.940 Van Sborova

17-ta DIVIZIJA - NOVSKA 14.382 II. SBOR

18-ta DIVIZIJA - SISAK 8.301 II. SBOR

Ukupno 19 divizija 229.213

Van Sborova i divizija XXVI-ti SDS- Su{ak, 3.486

232.699


I.HUD Prva hrvatska udarna divizija 2.HUD Druga hrvatska usta{ka divizija

5.HUD Peta hrvatska usta{ka divizija 6.HJD [esta hrvatska juri{na diivizija

12 HGD Dvanaesta hrvatska gorska divizija 16 HDD [esnaesta hrvatska doknadna divizija

18 HJD Osamnaesta hrvatska juri{na divizija


PODHVATNE KOPNENE POSTROJBE POSTROJENE U 19 DIVIZIJA

I. SBOR....................….. 31.471

II. SBOR...................... 33.692

III. SBOR....................... 51.380

IV. SBOR....................... 34.681

V. SBOR........................ 37.607

Ukupno van Sborova 43.868

Sveukupno 19 divizija, 232.699


Sveukupno u 19 divizija, domobranske vojnice 100.418

Sveukupno u 19 divizja usta{ke vojnice u 26 Sdrugova 132.261

Sveukupno u podhvatnim postrojbama u 19 divizija 232.699


NIJE UTVRDJENO

Sjediste zapovjednictva, zapovjedni sastav, te kojim divizijama su pripadali

20-ti Posadni DOM Sdrug 1.700

5-ti Lovacki Sdrug 2.700

9-ti Lovacki Sdrug 2.700

10-Ti Lovacki sdrug 2.700

Ukupno 9.800 (nije nigdje uracunato)


Ostale podhvatne i pomo}ne postrojbe ustrojene od Hrvata:


369. Legionarska pje{a~ka divizija, zvana “Vra`ja Divizija” vratila se

u Domovinu koncem 1942 g., izravno sa obuke u Njema~koj 12.000

373. Legionarska pje{a~ka divizija, zvana “Tiger Divizija” vratila se

u Domovinu koncem 1943 g., izravno sa obuke u Njema~koj 12.000

392. Legionarska pje{a~ka divizija, zvana “Plava Divizija” vratila se

u Domovinu po~etkom 1944 g., izravno sa obuke u Njema~koj 12.000

Ukupno 36.000

Pod izravnim njema~kim zapovjedni~tvom nalazile su se:

13. SS pje{a~ka divizija, zvana “Handzar Divizija” koja se je vratila

u Domovinu po~etkom 1944 g., izravno sa obuke u Njema~koj 18.000

Oru`ni~ka divizija - Osijek u kojoj je bilo Hrvata 5.000

Ukupno 23.000


Pozadinska slu`ba MINORSA, sa svim sbornim

zapovjedni~tvima, popunidbenim i doknadnim

zapovjedni~tvima, obskrbnim slu`bama tih razina,

obkoparskom slu`bom u ja~ini 2 Sdruga, radnom

slu`bom, bolnicama, {kolama, preselicama svih

prometa, radionicama, kao logistika cjelokupnog HOS-a ........................................... 75.000


Sveukupno Hrvata u kopnenim snagama 366.699


Hrvatsko ratno zrakoplovstvo, .................................................. .............. 8.000

Hrvatska ratna mornarica .................................................. .................... 4.000

Hrvatsko oru`ni~tvo, .................................................. ............................. 11.600

Ukupno 23.600


Sveukupno u Hrvatskim Oru`anim Snagama 390 299

[Originalno preneto iz arhiva Sabora]

 

[GeorgeV]

Hrvatski "antifašisti" i dalje lažu više nego hrvatski fašisti...

 

[GODFATHER10]

Bilo je u 3 PM od cc 2.000.000 koliko je živjelo u AU monarhiji..

Ako ništa drugo to je lako provjeriti.

Cija provera? od vas crvata!?U,austrijskom muzeju stoji ''hrvatski zlocini''
Dakle cije izvore dajes?

 

[Kopaonik2]

Prvo,ovo sto Kopaonik navodi nije nista novo,sve ove jedinice koje je naveo su neosporno postojale,ali on naprosto uzima ukupan broj unovacenih/dragovoljaca tijekom cijelog rata,dalje,uzima ladno i Muslimane 13. i 23. divizija,zaboravlja da je u 373,369 i 392 bilo puno Svaba,ne uzima u obzir stope dezertiranja(ima u onoj knjizi koju sam postavio nesto o tome,a brojevi ljudi u HOS-u krajem 44. godine su takoder prenapuhani tj po papirima ih je vjerojatno bilo toliko,ali u stvarnosti oko 40-50%od tog broja.Opet,postavljeno je u onoj knjizi nesto,a ima vjerojatno jos bolje samo mi se ne da kopat sad.

[/I]

Na sto nacina vec 70 godina pokusavate sakriti istinu - sta vam je uspelo zahvaljujuci komunistickoj propagandi u cilju stvaranja uravnilovke I bratstva I jedinstva.... I sada ti tu vec davno vidjenju propagandu ponovo ovde pises.

Ne uzimam ja ladno muslimane: Za svaku jedinicu pise sastav - I nista nisam sakrio ili prepravio. U Handzar diviziji su preovladavali muslimani ali je bilo I 2800 Hrvata katolika. - dakle podaci su jasno izneseni. Ali I muslimani su onda bili Hrvati - zar nisu? I svi koji su se tu nalazili tako su se I osecali I tako su se I izjasnjavali - pa ni utvrdjivanje sastava jedinica u Nirnbergu nije ni moglo biti drugacije - niti su ga strani autori mogli drugacije smatrati.

Sta kazete koliko vas je bilo na Bleiburgu? A koliko vas je poginulo u ratu?

A koliko vas je obavljalo nacisticke duznosti u civilu?

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Hrvatski "antifašisti" i dalje lažu više nego hrvatski fašisti...

Sa ovim se u potpunosti slazem.

 

[Kopaonik2]

Many took their weapons with them and hundreds joined the Partisans[/B].[110] In mid-October, 700 members of the division stationed at Orašje joined the Partisans, and were distributed between the 17th Majevica Brigade and 21st East Bosnian Brigade.[111][/I]

Samo dokaz da kad je zagustilo. kad ste videli da nacizam propada da ste preoblacili uniforme - I prelazili u partizane. Sta biste inace na drugoj temi tvrdili suprotno.

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Veliki udar za hrvatsku vojsku dogodio se u jesen 1944, kada je Tito uputio apel hrvatskim vojnicima, koji glasi: svi hrvatski vojnici, koji se priključe partizanskoj vojsci od 15. septembra 1944, biće amnestirani. Tada je iz "domobrana" pobeglo mnogo hrvatskih vojnika, a posebno veliki procenat dezertera čine oficiri hrvatske vojske.[2]
– Ratni dnevnik Vrhovne komande Vermahta

Sve vise dokaza kako su Hrvati preoblacili uniforme I prelazili na srpsku stranu - kad je nacizam puko - trazili ste suknju pod koju cete se sakriti - nazalost I nasli ste je - da bi se devedesete opet ispod nje izvukli.

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On 6 December 1944, the division participated in the defence of Knin against the Partisans, where it suffered serious losses.[52] In January 1945, Gravenstein was promoted to Generalmajor,[3] and withdrew the survivors of the division to the northwest towards Bihać.[53] During this withdrawal, the division assisted the 6,000–7,000 Chetniks of Momčilo Đujić that had fought alongside them

Dakle imali smo situaciju da Hrvati i Srbi oslobadaju Knin od Nijemaca,Hrvata i Srba

Momcilo Djujic je 3. decembra 1944. godine bio u Italiji I nije se vracao.

 

[piciginx]

Cija provera? od vas crvata!?U,austrijskom muzeju stoji ''hrvatski zlocini''
Dakle cije izvore dajes?

Gojko Nikoliš, Memoari, korijeni, stablo pavetina, Liber-Prosveta, Zagreb-Beograd 1981.

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Kako da ne.... brojcano stanje sredjenih podataka po jedinicama iznosi 332 000 a podaci NDHa govore o 390 000 Hrvata u oruzanim snagama:


[Originalno preneto iz arhiva Sabora]

U oružanim snagama NDH su Hrvati iz RH, većim djelom iz BiH a veliki dio su činili Bošnjaci-Muslimani.
Ne treba zanemariti ni Srbe u oružanim snagama NDH.

 

[GeorgeV]

Pogledajte prilog 364873

Gojko Nikoliš, Memoari, korijeni, stablo pavetina, Liber-Prosveta, Zagreb-Beograd 1981.

Da...da...nesumnjivo je da je Nikola Sudžuk sam izvršio sve zločine u Srbiji 1914...a ko će kome, ako neće svoj svome...