Белисариус и остали Славјански генерали Византије

Znaci priznao si da smo isti narod, da kod vas ima veliki srpski elemenat a kod nas makedonski :lol:
Ako je tako, zasto onda plujes tvoj narod!?

Postavi neke makedonske pesme o Aleksandru a da nisu iz perioda (kraja) 19 veka (20 veka), gde su te pesme iz perioda turskog ropstva (i pre njega) ?
Ja vidoh nekoliko pesama (15 i 16 vek) gde se tvrdi da je on bio Srbin, nijedna od tih pesama ne tvrdi da je on makedonac :lol:

Makedonci nisu imali nacionalni osecaj da su Makedonci, do 19 veka ili su bili Srbi ili Bugari (Bugari su slazemo se kasnije dosli). ''Makedonci'' (geografski naziv) su kao i Zecani ili Rasani (Raska) imali svoje kraljestvo ili drzavu... Makedon ne znaci nista na nasim jezicima (kao ni na grckom), verovatno je ta drzava dobila svoje ime po nekoj dinastiji ili reci (Don znaci reka), Bosna je svoje ime dobila po reci Bosna, Zeta po reci Zeta, Raska po reci Raska jako je verovatno da je to isti slucaj bio i kod Makedonije.


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Belisarius

Born: 505 AD
Died: 565 AD
Cause of death: unspecified

Gender: Male
Race or Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Military

Nationality: Byzantium
Executive summary: Byzantine general

One of the most famous generals of the later Roman empire, born about AD 505, in Germania, a district on the borders of Thrace and Macedonia.

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Belisarius was born in Germane, Illyria (modern day Yugoslavia), though we are not sure of the exact date. His family was Slavic in nature, but had lived inside the Empire for a century and were fully Romanized; his name (Beli Tsar) apparently meant "White Prince" in Slavic.
http://www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/bios/b2belisarius.htm

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No one knows for sure where Belisarius was born, but many experts believe he was born in Germania, an area near Macedonia and Illyria1 (Yugoslavia)2 He was born in 505 AD. As with many people of that age, little is known about Belisarius' childhood.
He appears to have been fully Romanized, but his name also seems to mean White Prince in Slavic.
http://www.mountainlilypress.com/Rom...torical6a.html

Место се звало неко Герман не Германија као Немачка..

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A Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology
By William Smith, 1880, page 479.

http://www.heritage-history.com/www/...belisarius.php

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Belisarius was born in Germane, Illyria (modern day Yugoslavia), though we are not sure of the exact date. His family was Slavic in nature, but had lived inside the Empire for a century and were fully Romanized; his name (Beli Tsar) apparently meant "White Prince" in Slavic.
http://www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/bios/b2belisarius.htm

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No one knows for sure where Belisarius was born, but many experts believe he was born in Germania, an area near Macedonia and Illyria1 (Yugoslavia)2 He was born in 505 AD. As with many people of that age, little is known about Belisarius' childhood.
He appears to have been fully Romanized, but his name also seems to mean White Prince in Slavic.
http://www.mountainlilypress.com/Rom...torical6a.html


Играјући се овим старим картама нађох да се данашња Куршумлија некада звала Германа или Германија.
Изгледа да је овај наш генерал рођен у Куршумлији. Наше горе лист....

Ево карте...

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http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~33913~1170066:Carte-de-la-Dacie-ancienne,-de-la-P?sort=Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No&qvq=q:serbia;sort:Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No;lc:RUMSEY~8~1&mi=0&trs=27

О карти, копи-пејст:

Collection: David Rumsey Historical Map Collection
Author: Brue, Adrien Hubert, 1786-1832
Date: 1826
Short Title: Dacie ancienne, Pannonie, Illyrie, Moesie.
Publisher: A. Brue, Paris
Full Title: Carte de la Dacie ancienne, de la Pannonie, de l'Illyrie et de la Moesie; par A. Brue, Geographe du Roi. Paris, 1826. Chez l'Auteur, rue des Macons-Sorbonne, no. 9, et chez les principaux m(archan)ds de cartes geographiques.



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Линк:http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/ser...n="Byzantine+Empire";lc:RUMSEY~8~1&mi=1&trs=8

О карти, копи-пејст:

Collection: David Rumsey Historical Map Collection
Author: Houze, Antoine Philippe
Date: 1844
Short Title: L'Empire Romain d'Orient, Royaume des Lombards 553 a 774.
Publisher: Chez P. Dumenil, Paris
Full Title:
L'Empire Romain d'Orient et le Royaume des Lombards 553 a 774. Dresses sous la direction de A. Houze. (In upper margin:) Atlas historique et geographique de la Grece et de l'Italie. Carte VII. (Paris, Chez P. Dumenil, editeur, rue des Beaux-Arts, 10. 1844)


Еурекааааа!!!!!!!!!! .... Браво за мене.........:klap::klap::klap:
 
Poslednja izmena:
Браво:ok:
и за "Белог цара" и за Герман топоним и за претходно име Куршумлије
:super:

У старијим обредима помиње се Џерман или Герман, постоји могућност да је "старо божанство" колико и "Дода" из додолских обреда.....а нека села су имале заветине везане за Џермана, које су се по традицији дешавале око култног старог дрвета у средини насеља -тзв "записа".. или записа на брду
Герман се празновао да би се народ заштитио од грома, града и поплаве.
http://books.google.rs/books?id=I_U...=MRZMT72NO5DJsgaI9PzLDw&sqi=2&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA
http://books.google.rs/books?id=t2A...=cxdMT5aIDsPCtAbF8ry5Dw&sqi=2&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAQ
http://books.google.rs/books?id=RJP...=XxxMT72xFYn3sgajp8SZDw&sqi=2&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA

Негде је Џерман постао Св.Герман напр у манастиру Сукову славе као преславу
http://www.tt-group.net/photos/d/1161-1/Sukovski-manastir.jpg
А као црквени празник обележава се 25.маја.
 

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