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"Vucicev RTS 2025" je napisao da je evidentirano po imenu 80.000 zrtava a ne da je to konacan broj zrtava. Opet iskrivljujes cinjenice kako ti odgovara. U clanku RTS-a pise: "Према налазима "Спомен подручја Јасеновац" пописано је, поименце, 83.145 жртава. То међутим не може бити коначна цифра."
Hajde, daj link ka toj originalnoj presudi "Nirnberskog suda" o Jasenovcu gde pise da je ubijeno 803.000 ljudi, a koju Vucicev RTS krije. Ne ulazim u to da li je to istina ili nije, voleo bih samo da vidim link gde se vidi ta "zvanicna presuda Nirberskog suda".
Ja koliko znam u Nirberskom procesu je na sudjenju bilo blizu 200 nemackih oficira i vojnika za zlocine po okupiranoj Evropi. Nikada nisam cuo da je bilo kakva presuda o Jasenovcu donesena na tom procesu. U Americkoj Kongresnoj biblioteci, gde se mogu videti originalni spisi sa sudjenja, nema nista o bilo kakvoj Nirnberskoj presudi o Jasenovcu. Takodje ni u Enciklopediji Holokausta nema nista. Mislim da nisam jedini koji bi voleo da vidi tu presudu o Jasenovcu iz Nirnberga. Inace u Enciklopediji Holokausta pise ovo a dole su i linkovi.....
"Between its establishment in 1941 and its evacuation in April 1945, Croat authorities murdered thousands of people at Jasenovac. Among the victims were:
- between 45,000 and 52,000 Serb residents of the so-called Independent State of Croatia
- between 12,000 and 20,000 Jews
- between 15,000 and 20,000 Roma (Gypsies)
- between 5,000 and 12,000 ethnic Croats and Muslims, who were political opponents of the regime
Determining the number of victims for Yugoslavia, for Croatia, and for Jasenovac is highly problematic, due to the destruction of many relevant documents, the long-term inaccessibility to independent scholars of those documents that survived, and the ideological agendas of postwar partisan scholarship and journalism, which has been and remains influenced by ethnic tension, religious prejudice, and ideological conflict. The estimates offered here are based on the work of several historians who have used census records as well as whatever documentation was available in German, Croat, and other archives in the former Yugoslavia and elsewhere.
As more documents become accessible and more research is conducted into the records of the Ustaša regime, historians and demographers may be able to determine more precise figures than are now available."
https://www.historiography-project.com/nmt/index.php
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/search?perPage=10&query=jasenovac&languages[]=en
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/search?perPage=10&query=nurnberg+&languages[]=en
