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U kom delu CG mislis da je bio najmanji uticaj Arbanasa ?Staroj CG ?Ne racunam hercegovinu tu
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U kom delu CG mislis da je bio najmanji uticaj Arbanasa ?Staroj CG ?Ne racunam hercegovinu tu
okolina Cetinja i Čeva....sve ostalo je mešavina...što se da videti i po fizionomiji ljudi...
Aj ne mlati , jos malo pa nad ljudi .
Kakva ironija , oni koji su Srbi , nece to da budu .
Kakva je situacija na predelu izmedju Bara i Cetinja ??
Verujem da je do intenzivnijeg mesanja dolazilo krajem 16veka , u hercegovini je toga bilo dosta manje , sto se i vidi na primeru stare hercegovine .
A znaš li nekog od Kuča?
vidiš i kod Bara su ti čisto srpski živalj...pravoslavne, katoličke i islamske veroispovedi...ovi muslimani, u okolini Ostrosa (Mrkovići) albanizovani su sada...

okolina Cetinja i Čeva....sve ostalo je mešavina...što se da videti i po fizionomiji ljudi...
Katunska nahija? Od riječi katun? Čevljani? Pa oni su Ozrinići - po predanju od Ozra.
"Nos Nichola Grubsich, Cusich Manovich, Bacel Voanovich, Glava Hosrichnich, Cosan Osrichinich, Vochotta Tolich, Vithoye Popovich, Petan Priboyevich, Biladin Vladoyevich, Vlaci." - dokument iz 1369. godine. Riječ nos na latinskom znači - "mi".
Risto Kovijanić, "Pomeni crnogorskih plemena u kotorskim spomenicima XIV - XVI vijek", Cetinje, 1963, str. 188-189.
Inače Ozrinići se pominju još 1335. godine:
"Grubša Tolić (Grubscia Tolich) ugovorio je s Nucijem Gile iz Kotora, 3. juna 1335, da mu preda do Mitrova dne 80 ovaca s vunom i 30 jagnjadi. Za njega su jemčili: Mojan Miletić, Nenoje Ozrihnić i Pavle Kostić (Moyan Milletich, Nenoye Osdrichinich et Paulus Costich)..." (strana 220).
Ispadne da su u brdima Arbanasi bili vecina .
A Physical Description of Albania and the Defence of Ulcinj
The name of the author of this report, first published by Sime Ljubic in 1880, is unknown, but he was probably one of the Venetian proveditors of Kotor. He seems, at any rate, to have visited many areas of Albania personally. His report provides much information, including many useful details, on the state of a country firmly now under Turkish rule.
The country of Albania is that which ancient authors called Macedonia,( i.e. only a part of Macedonia since the latter contains many lands and regions which are not Albanian). Albania itself is the part which has the Adriatic Sea as its western border. The said land of Albania extends from the north southwards from between the towns of Antivari (Bar) and Dulcigno (Ulcinj), settlements which are a mere fifteen miles apart. As such, Bar constitutes the end of Dalmatia and Ulcinj the beginning of Albania.
http://www.albanianhistory.net/texts16-18/AH1570.html
One factor, among others, which makes this kingdom easy to conquer, is that it is inhabited by two peoples, i.e. the Albanians and the Latins who, in their beliefs, their rites and their obedience, both abide by the Roman Catholic Church. Accordingly, they have archbishops, bishops and abbots, as well as religious and secular clerics of lower rank and status. The Latins have six towns with bishops: firstly Antibarum (Bar), the seat of the archbishop, then Chatarensis (Kotor), Dulcedinensis (Ulcinj), Suacinensis (Shas) (2), Scutarensis (Shkodra) and Drivascensis (Drisht) (3), which are inhabited by the Latins alone. Outside the town walls, the Albanians make up the population throughout the diocese. There are four Albanian towns: Polatum Maius (Greater Pult) (4), Polatum Minus (Lesser Pult), Sabatensis (Sapa) (5) and Albanensis (Albanopolis) (6) which, together with the towns of the Latins, are all legally subject to the Archbishop of Bar and his church as their metropolitan. The Albanians indeed have a language quite different from Latin. However they use Latin letters in all their books (7). The sway of the Latins is thus confined to the limits of their towns. Outside the towns, they do possess vineyards and fields, but there are no fortifications or villages actually inhabited by the Latins. The Albanians for their part, the larger of the two peoples, could assemble over fifteen thousand horsemen for warfare according to the custom and manner of the country, who would be courageous and industrious warriors. Since the said Latins and Albanians suffer under the unbearable yoke and extremely dire ******* of their odious Slav leaders whom they detest - the people being tormented, the clergy humiliated and oppressed, the bishops and abbots often kept in chains, the nobles disinherited and held hostage, episcopal and other churches disbanded and deprived of their rights, and the monasteries in decay and ruin - they would all to a man believe that they were consecrating their hands in the blood of the aforementioned Slavs if a French prince were to appear before them whom they could make leader of their war against the said evil Slavs, the enemies of our true faith. With the help of the aforementioned Albanians and Latins, one thousand French knights and five or six thousand foot soldiers could without a doubt easily conquer the whole length and breadth of this kingdom.
http://www.albanianhistory.net/texts15/AH1332.html
Knjiga od srednog veka , pominju se gradovi : Ulcinj , Bar ,Dolcino itd. u stastavu albanske granice :
1570
Anonymous:
A Physical Description of Albania and the Defence of Ulcinj
Sa necim se slazem , ali Vasojevici nisu arbanaskog porekla , pa ljudi dajte se u pamet.Ima hiiljade dokaza koji opovrgavaju to , mrsko mi je da sada kacim .Cak sta vise , za sva ostala plemena ima neka prica o arbanaskom poreklu , osim za Vasojevice , koji se dovode u vezu sa Nemanjicima , sa hercegovackim kraljevima itd.
Pricati da su oni Albanci je smesno.
Ako mogu izvori biti malo objektivniji , a ne na nivou blogova i dnevno politickih aspiracija .
I za kraj , kada mislite da je bio najveci intenzitet mesanja , u 16,17veku ????
Vasojevići nisu albanskog porekla, ali su mnoge porodice iz Klimenata, Gruda i Hota pobegli tu i slavenizirali se i utopili u Vasojeviće...ne zaboravimo i ženidbe i udadbe....
okolina Cetinja i Čeva....sve ostalo je mešavina...što se da videti i po fizionomiji ljudi...
Nemas poima. Siptari/Albanci se najvise razlikuju od ostalih naroda ex YU, oni imaju specifican izgled (meni su oni ruzni kao narod, najruzniji narod na Balkanu, bez uvrede ovo je samo moje misljenje), znam ih odlicno po fizionomiji jer sam ziveo medju njima, a ti ocigledno nisi. Siptari su geneticki sasvim neka druga sorta. Oni osim kriminala i poslasticarnenja ne znaju nista, mahom su geneticki ne talentovan narod.

vidiš, ja imam 25% albanske krvi u sebi, izuzetno sa, lep i talentovan sam za mnogo toga...![]()
ahhh muzika za moje usiMonte Negro je oblast regnuma "Raxiae" ili "Serviae" baš kao i Bar (za Ulcinj nisam siguran).

Ubi se ili da te ubijem, ne ipak cemo te postediti imas 75% nase krvi. Sad mi je jasno zasto forsiras siptare i pises razne gluposti.

kada otkucas na google-u "vasojevici su albanskog porekla" prvo sto izadje, a maltene i jedino na tu temu, je tvoj post odavde, nista drugo od cele ove ogromne i gigantske svetske mrezene forsiram ja nikog....samo pišem onako kako jeste...prizrenac...

kada otkucas na google-u "vasojevici su albanskog porekla" prvo sto izadje, a maltene i jedino na tu temu, je tvoj post odavde, nista drugo od cele ove ogromne i gigantske svetske mreze![]()


Kasino, rekao sam da je celi prostor od Trebinja do sastavnice Drima, kao i od Zlatibora do Herceg Novog prostor velikih etničkih mešanja i uticaja slovenskog, albanskog i primorskog stanovništva...