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FOTO SHOP zemljace , foto shop ..
Inace ja sam autokton u MK
autokton?!?!?! WTF?
sta ti to znaci? auto... to znam sta znaci ali to kton.... to mi bas i nije najjasnije
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autokton?!?!?! WTF?
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Zato se ceo svet i smije :
Samo jedno sta nemogu da razumem kod vas :
-STA MI VAMA RADIMO STA NAS TOLIKO MRZITE ?
Zato se ceo svet i smije :
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Samo jedno sta nemogu da razumem kod vas :
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autokton?!?!?! WTF?
sta ti to znaci? auto... to znam sta znaci ali to kton.... to mi bas i nije najjasnije
http://translate.google.com/#sq|mk| a toke tone
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http://2.***************/_-6-s9h7qgXI/SwR51Fa3IHI/AAAAAAAAABk/lR_IUdViOCE/s1600/Gollum.jpg
По овоме се види да су Албанци у ствари слуге Лорду Саурону..
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Samo jedno sta nemogu da razumem kod vas :
-STA MI VAMA RADIMO STA NAS TOLIKO MRZITE ?
Шта сте радили задњих година..и шта гледате када затворите очи?
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Samo jedno sta nemogu da razumem kod vas :
-STA MI VAMA RADIMO STA NAS TOLIKO MRZITE ?
otimate zemlju? zar ti nije bio pokusaj? srbima ste vec delimicno uspeli.... to nije dovoljan razlog?
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http://translate.google.com/#sr|sq|autohton
ako pises na sprskom onda i pisi na srpskom
a ako pises na siptarskom onda i prevedi 
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Земо .немој се залетивати.Шта нам радите?У ова времена нетреба се много урадити.Конфликт је прошао ?Тако?
1.Дали су се вратили исељени на родна огњишта?
2.Дали спомен плоче су остали читаве?
3.Дали су кажњени злосторници који су писали своја имаена на леџа мавровским радницима?
4.Дали је тз конфликт 2001 био за човекова права?
5.Дали:Ако подлеже мавровски случаи на амнестију,не подлежи случај Јохан Тарчуловски?
И разјасни ми како то хаг је опфатио само слосторства(Кажем злосторства јер ОНА није ниједан слостор учинила)а никаком злосторства ОНА.е.?
Andjela
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Dragi Arberi, svaki izvor je na osnovu nekog izvora nastao
Ali, predlazem da se vratimo temi, ako si voljan
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site sme makedonci
ti si eden ubav primer sto ja vide istinata
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Cika Djole, pisi srpski, da ne "skrnavimo" pravilnik.
A, ovo da ne postoje Srbi...
Svi smo mi Srbi, samo ste vi dali sebi ime po geografskoj oblasti, kojoj nastanjujete
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Cika Djole, pisi srpski, da ne "skrnavimo" pravilnik.
A, ovo da ne postoje Srbi...
Svi smo mi Srbi, samo ste vi dali sebi ime po geografskoj oblasti, kojoj nastanjujete
ti prva krsis pravilnik jer u svakom tvom postu figurise makedonski jezik.... a ako smo vec jedan narod (MAKEDONCI) kao sto kazes kakve je veze kojim dijalektom makedonskog jezika pisem?!?!? dal srpskim ili zapadno makedonskim.. zar ne?
i siguran sam da ce me svi drugi makedonci (odnosno makedonci koji u zabludi misle da su srbi) na forumu veoma dobro razumeti - jer smo ionako svi isti narod - makedonci od sega pisuvam samo na makedonski
ne somnevam deka site ke me razberat, a ako treba i pravilnikot da go smenis angjelce ne somnevam vo tvoite sposobnosti ako sme isti narod (MAKEDONCI) nema da ima nikakov problem... ako ima problem, toa samo znaci da mozebi ne sme isti narod?!?!? pa da vidime sto ke se sluci i da li sme isti narod (MAKEDONCI) ....
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ti prva krsis pravilnik jer u svakom tvom postu figurise makedonski jezik.... a ako smo vec jedan narod (MAKEDONCI) kao sto kazes kakve je veze kojim dijalektom makedonskog jezika pisem?!?!? dal srpskim ili zapadno makedonskim.. zar ne?
od sega pisuvam samo na makedonski
Djole, da ne spamujemo temu vise.
Pravilnik foruma je jasan i u njemu stoji da su dozvoljeni jezici na forumu SRPSKI I ENGLESKI.
Ako imas prmedbi na pravilnik foruma, obrati se administraciji.
P.S. Da li Srbi ili Makedonci, ali fakat je da smo isti narod
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@tema
"Alexander was born the sixth of Hecatombaeon, which month the Macedonians call Lous, the same day that the temple of Diana at Ephesus was burnt; which Hegesias of Magnesia makes the occasion of a conceit, frigid enough to have stopped the conflagration. The temple, he says, took fire and was burnt while its mistress was absent, assisting at the birth of Alexander. And all the Eastern soothsayers who happened to be then at Ephesus, looking upon the ruin of this temple to be the forerunner of some other calamity, ran about the town, beating their faces, and crying, that this day had brought forth something that would prove fatal and destructive to all Asia."
Alexander - plutarh
"Alexander was born the sixth of Hecatombaeon, which month the Macedonians call Lous, the same day that the temple of Diana at Ephesus was burnt; which Hegesias of Magnesia makes the occasion of a conceit, frigid enough to have stopped the conflagration. The temple, he says, took fire and was burnt while its mistress was absent, assisting at the birth of Alexander. And all the Eastern soothsayers who happened to be then at Ephesus, looking upon the ruin of this temple to be the forerunner of some other calamity, ran about the town, beating their faces, and crying, that this day had brought forth something that would prove fatal and destructive to all Asia."
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@tema
"While Philip went on his expedition against the Byzantines, he left Alexander, then sixteen years old, his lieutenant in Macedonia, committing the charge of his seal to him; who, not to sit idle, reduced the rebellious Maedi, and having taken their chief town by storm, drove out the barbarous inhabitants, and planting a colony of several nations in their room, called the place after his own name, Alexandropolis. At the battle of Chaeronea, which his father fought against the Grecians, he is said to have been the first man that charged the Thebans' sacred band. And even in my remembrance, there stood an old oak near the river Cephisus, which people called Alexander's oak, because his tent was pitched under it. And not far off are to be seen the graves of the Macedonians who fell in that battle. This early bravery made Philip so fond of him, that nothing pleased him more than to hear his subjects call himself their general and Alexander their king."
Alexander - plutarh
"While Philip went on his expedition against the Byzantines, he left Alexander, then sixteen years old, his lieutenant in Macedonia, committing the charge of his seal to him; who, not to sit idle, reduced the rebellious Maedi, and having taken their chief town by storm, drove out the barbarous inhabitants, and planting a colony of several nations in their room, called the place after his own name, Alexandropolis. At the battle of Chaeronea, which his father fought against the Grecians, he is said to have been the first man that charged the Thebans' sacred band. And even in my remembrance, there stood an old oak near the river Cephisus, which people called Alexander's oak, because his tent was pitched under it. And not far off are to be seen the graves of the Macedonians who fell in that battle. This early bravery made Philip so fond of him, that nothing pleased him more than to hear his subjects call himself their general and Alexander their king."
Alexander - plutarh
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"When he came to Thebes, to show how willing he was to accept of their repentance for what was past, he only demanded of them Phoenix and Prothytes, the authors of the rebellion, and proclaimed a general pardon to those who would come over to him. But when the Thebans merely retorted by demanding Philotas and Antipater to be delivered into their hands, and by a proclamation on their part, invited all who would assert the liberty of Greece to come over to them, he presently applied himself to make them feel the last extremities of war. The Thebans indeed defended themselves with a zeal and courage beyond their strength, being much outnumbered by their enemies. But when the Macedonian garrison sallied out upon them from the citadel, they were so hemmed in on all sides, that the greater part of them fell in the battle; the city itself being taken by storm, was sacked and razed, Alexander's hope being that so severe an example might terrify the rest of Greece into obedience, and also in order to gratify the hostility of his confederates, the Phocians and Plataeans. So that, except the priests, and some few who had heretofore been the friends and connections of the Macedonians, the family of the poet Pindar, and those who were known to have opposed the public vote for the war, all the rest, to the number of thirty thousand, were publicly sold for slaves; and it is computed that upwards of six thousand were put to the sword. Among the other calamities that befell the city, it happened that some Thracian soldiers having broken into the house of a matron of high character and repute, named Timoclea, their captain, after he had used violence with her, to satisfy his avarice as well as lust, asked her, if she knew of any money concealed; to which she readily answered she did, and bade him follow her into a garden, where she showed him a well, into which, she told him, upon the taking of the city she had thrown what she had of most value. The greedy Thracian presently stooping down to view the place where he thought the treasure lay, she came behind him, and pushed him into the well, and then flung great stones in upon him, till she had killed him. After which, when the soldiers led her away bound to Alexander, her very mien and gait showed her to be a woman of dignity, and of a mind no less elevated, not betraying the least sign of fear or astonishment. And when the king asked her who she was, "I am," said she, "the sister of Theagenes, who fought the battle of Chaeronea with your father Philip, and fell there in command for the liberty of Greece." Alexander was so surprised, both at what she had done, and what she said, that he could not choose but give her and her children their freedom to go whither they pleased."
Alexander - plutarh
"When he came to Thebes, to show how willing he was to accept of their repentance for what was past, he only demanded of them Phoenix and Prothytes, the authors of the rebellion, and proclaimed a general pardon to those who would come over to him. But when the Thebans merely retorted by demanding Philotas and Antipater to be delivered into their hands, and by a proclamation on their part, invited all who would assert the liberty of Greece to come over to them, he presently applied himself to make them feel the last extremities of war. The Thebans indeed defended themselves with a zeal and courage beyond their strength, being much outnumbered by their enemies. But when the Macedonian garrison sallied out upon them from the citadel, they were so hemmed in on all sides, that the greater part of them fell in the battle; the city itself being taken by storm, was sacked and razed, Alexander's hope being that so severe an example might terrify the rest of Greece into obedience, and also in order to gratify the hostility of his confederates, the Phocians and Plataeans. So that, except the priests, and some few who had heretofore been the friends and connections of the Macedonians, the family of the poet Pindar, and those who were known to have opposed the public vote for the war, all the rest, to the number of thirty thousand, were publicly sold for slaves; and it is computed that upwards of six thousand were put to the sword. Among the other calamities that befell the city, it happened that some Thracian soldiers having broken into the house of a matron of high character and repute, named Timoclea, their captain, after he had used violence with her, to satisfy his avarice as well as lust, asked her, if she knew of any money concealed; to which she readily answered she did, and bade him follow her into a garden, where she showed him a well, into which, she told him, upon the taking of the city she had thrown what she had of most value. The greedy Thracian presently stooping down to view the place where he thought the treasure lay, she came behind him, and pushed him into the well, and then flung great stones in upon him, till she had killed him. After which, when the soldiers led her away bound to Alexander, her very mien and gait showed her to be a woman of dignity, and of a mind no less elevated, not betraying the least sign of fear or astonishment. And when the king asked her who she was, "I am," said she, "the sister of Theagenes, who fought the battle of Chaeronea with your father Philip, and fell there in command for the liberty of Greece." Alexander was so surprised, both at what she had done, and what she said, that he could not choose but give her and her children their freedom to go whither they pleased."
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Dardanci, koji su zjiveli oko DARDANELA, i koji su drzjali Troju, su izdvoeni deo Dardanaca koji su ziveli u nashim krajevima.
Власи су увек били Власи....
Никакви македоно-тракијо-влахо-грко...или како већ д1 каже..
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1. Jeli Sanduli, sta je sa General-majorom Ivanom Horvatom ?
Koje je nacionalnosti ?
Odakle potice ?
2. MAKEDONSKAGO VOLOSHOGO
Zasto manipulishesh podatcima ?
Prema ruskom dokumentu koji si prilozjio, ko su ti Makedoni, slavofoni, slovenizirani ????
3. VOLOSHOGO ?
Dali uopshte znash na koga se odnosi ovaj naziv ????
Sta je novo ?
1. “Jasno je, da su ove prostore, naseljavala razlicita ilirska i tracanska plemena... “ ????
Prema onome sta sam izneo od Homera i Herodota, sasvim je jasno da se “Iliri” uopste ne pominju (ovo se odnosi na pred trojanski period, znaci pre 1253 g).
Mozjete trazjiti Ilire u “Ilijadi”, ali njih necete naci.
Homer i Herodot su sasvim jasni, posebno : Herodot: “U vreme pre Trojanskog rata, Teukri (Trojanci) i Mizi u ogromnom ratnom pohodu, veceg i od onog koji su poduzeli Agamemnon i Menelaj, pokorili su sva tracka plemena, na zapad sve do Jonskog zaliva (Jadransko more), a na jug sve do reke Penej” (Herodot, Istorija, VII. 20).
Sta je bilo sa Ilirima ?
Gde su nestali?
Ili su mozjda Trojanci i Mizi vrshili selektivno pokoravanje ?
2. Homer i Herodot ni u kom slucaju ne izdvajaju Makedone od opsteg identiteta Tracana.
3. Pa, sta su onda Makedoni ?
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Господине без нервозе,,,,
Не интересује ме Хердот нити Тројанци.....
Ти си Влах и увек си био Влах и увек си се тако изјашњавао...Увек су сви тако писали....
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Ali , to je malo ...
Dardanus je sin Zeusa , i prema tome nije meni nista jasno u Istoriju i ne vidim da mi neko mozhe objasniti kao sto treba ili je svima ne-jasno ?
Ako je najstariji sin Zeusa = Dardan zar se ne govori o istoj familiji bez obzira sta je on (Zeus) ziveo u danshnjoj Grcku a ovaj drugi (Dradan) u ovaj region (Balkanu) ?
Zar nisu govorili istim jezikom , Otac i Sin !!
Nekad mi se cini da je citava ova Istorija antike falsifikovana , jer kad ne bi bila falsifokvana , bila bi jasnija .
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Ali , to je malo ...
Dardanus je sin Zeusa , i prema tome nije meni nista jasno u Istoriju i ne vidim da mi neko mozhe objasniti kao sto treba ili je svima ne-jasno ?
Ako je najstariji sin Zeusa = Dardan zar se ne govori u istoj familiji bez obzira sta je on ziveo u danshnjoj Grcku a ovaj drugi u ovaj region (Balkanu) ?
Zar nisu govorili istim jezikom , Otac i Sin !!
Nekad mi se cini da je citava ova Istorija antike falsifikovana , jer kad ne bi bila falsifokvana , bila bi jasnija .
Arberi zar nisi na proslavi ??????????????
http://www.time.mk/read/7cb592e7ab/f641e9ac9f/index.html
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Nemam novca za to 
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Danas ima samo 5% Albanaca u gradu albanske azbuke ,Manastir (Bitolj).
I ovih 5% su dosli sa Kosova , Albanije i Kavkaza , i jedan dio s'turcima .
I ovih 5% su dosli sa Kosova , Albanije i Kavkaza , i jedan dio s'turcima .
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