1) The Normans: Warrior Knights and Their Castles, By Christopher Gravett, David Nicolle
"Many such mercenaries settled in Byzantium and founded long-lasting military families. These would often have held pronoia, the Byzantine equivalent of the western fief. The feudalization of Byzantium may, in fact, have been a legacy, of the days when the Comnenid emperors recruited as many Normans and other westerners as they could find. Among those families founded by 'Franks' were the Raoulii, who were descended from a certain Italo-Norman named Raoul, and the Petraliphae, descended from Pierre d'Aulps. A group of warrior families called the Maniakates, descended from the Normans serving the great Byzantine general Maniakes, settled in Albania."
https://books.google.ca/books?id=f1...ved=0ahUKEwjdsPmaxpbfAhVq0YMKHbx_AfcQ6AEINjAD
2) The Albanians: An Ethnic History from Prehistoric Times to the Present, By Edwin E. Jacques
"From their base at Durres the Normans soon occupied Albanian territory as far east as the Vardar River. Many Norman families now transferred their residence to Albania."
http://books.google.ca/books?id=IJ2...DEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Normans Albania&f=false
3) The Evolution of Norman Identity, 911-1154, By Nick Webber
"... the people to whom Albanoi referred were the Normans."
Str. 87, 88:
http://books.google.ca/books?id=ltm...CwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Albanoi Normans&f=false
Pozdrav.
Nije mi bitno da li je nacionalnost / ethnicitet u pitanju.
Da li se albanensis i arbanensis odnosi na nesto drugo (i da li postoji "razlika" izmedju ta dva termina)?
Evo jos zanimljivih podataka.
URL:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=Qj...yAGX4IDYBA#v=onepage&q=Albani Normans&f=false
Str 244-248:
- The "Latinoi" of whom Michael Attaleiates speaks are the old inhabitants of Italy whom Scylitzes calls "Italoi", namely the Lombards or Longobards. The Normans, the "Fraggoi" (Franks) of Scylitzes, are named "Albanoi"/"Alvanoi" by Michael Attaleiates. This term corresponds to the well-known word of medieval Latin 'albani', meaning "aliens" and denoting those who, as foreigners, were not subjects of the country in which they had settled.
- It is highly probable that the Normans, who began to appear in the south of Italy from 1017 and obtained their first permanent possession in 1030 were considered aliens. From the facts under discussion, however, we can draw inferences of considerable interest. To begin with, the noun Albanoi, being a word of Latin origin, must have arrived in Byzantium from Southern Italy, where it undoubtedly applied to the foreigners from Normandy; otherwise Michael Attaleiates could not have applied it as a correct denomination for the Normans either in the passage mentioned above or in another where, saying that George Maniaces rose against Emperor Constantine IX Monomachos with his Byzantine and Norman soliders, he calls the former Romaioi and the latter Albanoi.
- Albanoi can have come only from a Latin albani stressed on the last syllable. Such a form uttered with a particular foreign accent can have flowed only from the mouths of people who had spoken Old French from birth and transferred the habit of stressing the last syllable of all words from their native language to any other language they had to speak.
Albanians (Αλβανοί), name of an Italian nation
Нисам схватио најбоље ово нити везу са Војисављевићима мислећи можда на брак са норманском принцезом?
Podseti me, šta tačno si me bio upitao?
To ne znači da mi opservacije nisu zanimljive.
Tvrdio za MIrdite da su poskipljeno slovensko pleme.
Gledajući ovako Kavkaz, i to ne samo od kada sam prvi put tamo video Avare, sve više i više sam fasciniran koliko je to svet u malom.
Severne granice kavkaske Albanije sačinjavaju Keraunijske planine....prema jednoj predstavi Ptolemejeve Sarmatske Azije iz 1771. godine:
Na jugozapadnu današnje Albanije...nalaze se Keraunijske planine (Malësia akrokeraune).
Možda naše albanske kolege mogu nešto bolje pomoći ubiciranju ove planinske oblasti na jugu Albanije; ja sam, vrlo šturo i koristeći Vikipediju, pretpostavio da bi trebalo da je negde ovde?
Kako je došlo do toga da ovi planinski masivi nose isto ime? Ključna je razlika što su na suprotnim stranama - u jednom slučaju na severnoj, a u drugom na južnoj strani.
Strabon takođe spominje Kerauniju na Kavkazu.
Ali u istoj knjizi spominje i ovu na Balkanu.
Možda slučajno poklapanje?
https://books.google.rs/books?id=cv1EAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false
само што Мелацов аргумент у вези акцентуације није пресудан у тој причи:
Hvala, hvala... Samo ne daj Bože da mi Albanija kliče
