Njusvik: Dzo Bajden ponudio Putinu 20% Ukrajine u zamenu za mir i prestanak rata!

a bre Milun:
Sa Marsalovim planom evropa je dobila kredite ali i vecne okove americke kolonijalne politike.
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Nije to baš tako. Evropa je prilično samostalna. Ne mora da zavisi od Amera ako to ne želi. Međutim, lep i uljuljkan život čini da se ljudi opuste i ne misle o svojoj samostalnosti. Niko nije terao Evropu da se ne naoružava i gradi svoju armiju. Nego se verovalo da rata neće biti. Svi u Evropi odlično sarađuju, nisu imali razloge za rat. Ali eto, pojavio se Putin i odlučio da ratuje. Tako da sad Evropa mora da se naoružava. Dovoljan je jedan nasilnik i mir će biti narušen. A da Evropa vojno zavisi od Amera, zavisi, ali, kao što rekoh, svojom voljom, to nije nametnuto. Sad moraju da zapnu pa aktiviraju svoje proizvodne pogone.
 
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"Džoe ponudio", a ispod piše "White House denies"...

Da li lažu na srpskom ili na engleskom
 
SajaBg:
Nije to baš tako. Evropa je prilično samostalna. Ne mora da zavisi od Amera ako to ne želi. Međutim, lep i uljuljkan život čini da se ljudi opuste i ne misle o svojoj samostalnosti. Niko nije terao Evropu da se ne naoružava i gradi svoju armiju. Nego se verovalo da rata neće biti. Svi u Evropi odlično sarađuju, nisu imali razloge za rat. Ali eto, pojavio se Putin i odlučio da ratuje. Tako da sad Evropa mora da se naoružava. Dovoljan je jedan nasilnik i mir će biti narušen. A da Evropa vojno zavisi od Amera, zavisi, ali, kao što rekoh, svojom voljom, to nije nametnuto. Sad moraju da zapnu pa aktiviraju svoje proizvodne pogone.
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i ti stvarno verujes da su se evropski politicari uplasili da rusi ne stignu do Lisabona pa su Rusiji nametnuli te "sankcije iz pakla" koja je unistila najpre nemacku industriju a potom i celu evropu?
Mislis li da Solc nija znao kakav ce biti ishod sankcija po Rusiju a kakav po Nemacku ? Znao je i te kako, al nije smeo da zucne radi Ramstajna koji je u paketu dosao sa Marsalovim planom. Isto je i sa svim ostalim NATO-zemljama , jer su svuda po njma NATO (citaj, americke) baze koje osiguravaju da se u tim zemljama sprovode americki nacionalni interesi.

Ovo i deca u obdanistima znaju ...........pa i ti.........al, yeb.iga, 100 dolara nije za bacanje.
(naravno, figurativno..........jer stvarno ne vidim drugi razlog da je neko tolko slep i bez logike da ne povezuje ni najprostije cinjenice)
 
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Dzo Bajden ponudio Putinu 20% Ukrajine u zamenu za mir i prestanak rata!

00:52
White House Denies Report Biden Offered Up Ukrainian Territory To End War
By Isabel van Brugen
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The White House and the CIA have responded to a report that CIA Director, William Burns, offered Russian President Vladimir Putin a fifth of Ukraine's territory to end the ongoing war as part of a peace plan drawn up on behalf of President Joe Biden.

A CIA official told Newsweek that claims in the report from Swiss-German newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung (NZZ) that Burns took a secret trip to Moscow in January and that there was a peace proposal put forward by the director on behalf of the White House were "completely false."

Last month, Burns traveled in secret to meet and brief Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv, The Washington Post reported.
Burns is said to have submitted the plan in mid-January to put an end to the war, which began on February 24, 2022. The story was reported by NZZ on Thursday, citing high-ranking German foreign politicians.
Both Kyiv and Moscow reportedly rejected the proposal.

U.S. President Joe Biden

U.S. President Joe Biden speaks during a meeting of his Competition Council, in the East Room of the White House in Washington, DC, on February 1, 2023.MANDEL NGAN/AFP/GETTY IMAGES


Newsweek reached out to the foreign ministries of Ukraine and Russia for comment.

According to the newspaper, the proposal offered "around 20 percent of Ukraine's territory"—approximately the size of Ukraine's eastern Donbas region.

Kyiv reportedly shut down the proposal "because they are not willing to have their territory divided" while Russian officials said they "will win the war in the long run anyway," reported NZZ, which has been described as the Swiss newspaper of record.

Sean Savett, the deputy spokesperson at White House's National Security Council, told Newsweek that the report from NZZ is "not accurate," and that the CIA would say the same.

According to the news outlet the German politicians said Biden wanted to avoid a protracted war in Ukraine, and so, offered the territory as part of the peace plan.

And when Ukraine and Russia both rejected the proposal, the Biden administration pledged to provide Kyiv with Abrams tanks, NZZ reported.

The U.S. announced on January 25 that it would send Ukraine up to 31 M1 Abrams tanks, after much debate and deliberation on the issue. The tanks could take months to arrive, according to reports.

The two politicians reportedly said that U.S. officials were split on how to handle the Ukraine war, which started nearly a year ago.

Burns and Biden's National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan, "wanted to end the war quickly so they could focus on China," while Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin "didn't want to let Russia get away with destroying the rule-based peace order and called for massive military support for Ukraine."

One of the politicians told NZZ that he believes it is becoming increasingly clear that the U.S. is preparing for a long war of attrition. He raised concerns that Germany would suffer economically, financially and militarily from such a war.

Germany has also said it would provide Ukraine with 14 of its Leopard 2A6 tanks, and allow partner countries to re-export other tanks to assist Kyiv.

German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said on January 26 that the promised Leopard 2 tanks will arrive in Ukraine at the end of March or the start of April.

Dmitry Polyanskiy, Russia's first deputy permanent representative to the United Nations, told Newsweek the report from NZZ was "interesting," but that he couldn't "comment [on] speculation."

Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Monday that negotiations between Russia and Ukraine "are now impossible since there are no conditions for them either de facto or de jure."

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-ukraine-territory-end-war-nzz-report-1778526


Dzo Bajden trguje teritorijom Ukrajine kao svojom prcijom....

Kako komentarisu ovo sorosevci i ostali iz NATO-CIA tabora na forumu?

Znaci granice u Evropi ipak nisu nepovredive nego zavisi od situacije i trenutka???


Sta kazu na ovo @dlugomir @Sizif @Dе Sisti @Istina je @Mstislav @S1MCRO
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Sto mene nisi tagovao, sta sam ja SUGAV???!!!
 
a bre Milun:
Mislis li da Solc nija znao kakav ce biti ishod sankcija po Rusiju a kakav po Nemacku ? Znao je i te kako, al nije smeo da zucne radi Ramstajna koji je u paketu dosao sa Marsalovim planom. Isto je i sa svim ostalim NATO-zemljama , jer su svuda po njma NATO (citaj, americke) baze koje osiguravaju da se u tim zemljama sprovode americki nacionalni interesi.
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Nije to baš tako. Onog momenta kad je Rusija počela da baca bombe po evropskim državama, bilo je jasno da se svakom biznisu bliži kraj. Ako se sećaš, u početku agresije niko nije dirao gasni posao, EU je uvodila sankcije u drugim oblastima. E onda je Putin počeo da ucenjuje i da zavrće slavinu. Da to nije radio, taj posao bi verovatno i dalje funkcionisao. Ovako, EU nije htela da pristaje na ucene. Jel bi ti živeo sa ucenjivačem? Naravno da ne bi. Silom prilika, Nemačka je od svih zemalja EU najviše zavisila od Ruskog gasa i zbog toga najviše nadrljala. To ti je kao skidanje sa droge, mora da prođe period krize ali posle nastavljaš normalno. Ništa nije tako strašno ali vole ljudi da naduvavaju. Svaki dan ovde slušamo priče "raspada se Nemačka, raspada se EU, raspada se Amerika... ceo svet se raspada, dolazi Rusija, Briks postaje planetarni fenomen koji proždire svetove..." ali ako malo bolje pogledaš, ništa specijalno se ne dešava. EU i Amerika ne propadaju, ima tu periodičnih kriza kao i što ih uvek ima u kapitalizmu, dok je Briks isti onakav kakav je bio i pre 15 godina kad je osnovan, okuplja marginalce i sve one koji nisu u "prvoj ligi" da imaju neki utešni osećaj da pripadaju negde.
 
SajaBg:
Nije to baš tako. Onog momenta kad je Rusija počela da baca bombe po evropskim državama, bilo je jasno da se svakom biznisu bliži kraj. Ako se sećaš, u početku agresije niko nije dirao gasni posao, EU je uvodila sankcije u drugim oblastima. E onda je Putin počeo da ucenjuje i da zavrće slavinu. Da to nije radio, taj posao bi verovatno i dalje funkcionisao. Ovako, EU nije htela da pristaje na ucene. Jel bi ti živeo sa ucenjivačem? Naravno da ne bi. Silom prilika, Nemačka je od svih zemalja EU najviše zavisila od Ruskog gasa i zbog toga najviše nadrljala. To ti je kao skidanje sa droge, mora da prođe period krize ali posle nastavljaš normalno. Ništa nije tako strašno ali vole ljudi da naduvavaju. Svaki dan ovde slušamo priče "raspada se Nemačka, raspada se EU, raspada se Amerika... ceo svet se raspada, dolazi Rusija, Briks postaje planetarni fenomen koji proždire svetove..." ali ako malo bolje pogledaš, ništa specijalno se ne dešava. EU i Amerika ne propadaju, ima tu periodičnih kriza kao i što ih uvek ima u kapitalizmu, dok je Briks isti onakav kakav je bio i pre 15 godina kad je osnovan, okuplja marginalce i sve one koji nisu u "prvoj ligi" da imaju neki utešni osećaj da pripadaju negde.
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ajoooj, covece, pa ti si totalno pod dejstvom chipa. Jel znas sta govoris?

do sada sam te uzimao za malo ozbiljnog al sovaj zadnji komentar totalno si se blamirao.

ajd, sve najbolje.
 
Urvan Hroboatos:
Te priče o Black Rocku su bajke. Napose u modernom svijetu, ne postoji vlasništvo tipa 20. st. kao što se prodavalo u školama pod marksizmom. Black Rock je tvrtka koja kao ima ovoliko i onoliko onoga, a sutra može nestati, kao štp su nestale bezbrojne stare i moćne banke i tvrtke.

Phillips je bio div, a sad je sjena.

Ljudi nemaju pojma o modernoj ekonomji.
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https://biznis.kurir.rs/4358835/vre...la-za-277-milijardi-dolara-u-samo-jednom-danu
Berzanski baloni, firma koja ima nekretnine mozda vredne 10 milijardi dolara, mozda ni to
na berzi vredi 1200 milijardi, za dan joj se poveca vrednost skoro 300 milijardi zbog jedne vesti.
Inace Rusi vise zapadu ne veruju, uzece sta hoce.
 
Тихи:
Dzo Bajden ponudio Putinu 20% Ukrajine u zamenu za mir i prestanak rata!

00:52
White House Denies Report Biden Offered Up Ukrainian Territory To End War
By Isabel van Brugen
Reporter
FOLLOW
227


The White House and the CIA have responded to a report that CIA Director, William Burns, offered Russian President Vladimir Putin a fifth of Ukraine's territory to end the ongoing war as part of a peace plan drawn up on behalf of President Joe Biden.

A CIA official told Newsweek that claims in the report from Swiss-German newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung (NZZ) that Burns took a secret trip to Moscow in January and that there was a peace proposal put forward by the director on behalf of the White House were "completely false."

Last month, Burns traveled in secret to meet and brief Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv, The Washington Post reported.
Burns is said to have submitted the plan in mid-January to put an end to the war, which began on February 24, 2022. The story was reported by NZZ on Thursday, citing high-ranking German foreign politicians.
Both Kyiv and Moscow reportedly rejected the proposal.

U.S. President Joe Biden

U.S. President Joe Biden speaks during a meeting of his Competition Council, in the East Room of the White House in Washington, DC, on February 1, 2023.MANDEL NGAN/AFP/GETTY IMAGES


Newsweek reached out to the foreign ministries of Ukraine and Russia for comment.

According to the newspaper, the proposal offered "around 20 percent of Ukraine's territory"—approximately the size of Ukraine's eastern Donbas region.

Kyiv reportedly shut down the proposal "because they are not willing to have their territory divided" while Russian officials said they "will win the war in the long run anyway," reported NZZ, which has been described as the Swiss newspaper of record.

Sean Savett, the deputy spokesperson at White House's National Security Council, told Newsweek that the report from NZZ is "not accurate," and that the CIA would say the same.

According to the news outlet the German politicians said Biden wanted to avoid a protracted war in Ukraine, and so, offered the territory as part of the peace plan.

And when Ukraine and Russia both rejected the proposal, the Biden administration pledged to provide Kyiv with Abrams tanks, NZZ reported.

The U.S. announced on January 25 that it would send Ukraine up to 31 M1 Abrams tanks, after much debate and deliberation on the issue. The tanks could take months to arrive, according to reports.

The two politicians reportedly said that U.S. officials were split on how to handle the Ukraine war, which started nearly a year ago.

Burns and Biden's National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan, "wanted to end the war quickly so they could focus on China," while Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin "didn't want to let Russia get away with destroying the rule-based peace order and called for massive military support for Ukraine."

One of the politicians told NZZ that he believes it is becoming increasingly clear that the U.S. is preparing for a long war of attrition. He raised concerns that Germany would suffer economically, financially and militarily from such a war.

Germany has also said it would provide Ukraine with 14 of its Leopard 2A6 tanks, and allow partner countries to re-export other tanks to assist Kyiv.

German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said on January 26 that the promised Leopard 2 tanks will arrive in Ukraine at the end of March or the start of April.

Dmitry Polyanskiy, Russia's first deputy permanent representative to the United Nations, told Newsweek the report from NZZ was "interesting," but that he couldn't "comment [on] speculation."

Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Monday that negotiations between Russia and Ukraine "are now impossible since there are no conditions for them either de facto or de jure."

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-ukraine-territory-end-war-nzz-report-1778526


Dzo Bajden trguje teritorijom Ukrajine kao svojom prcijom....

Kako komentarisu ovo sorosevci i ostali iz NATO-CIA tabora na forumu?

Znaci granice u Evropi ipak nisu nepovredive nego zavisi od situacije i trenutka???


Sta kazu na ovo @dlugomir @Sizif @Dе Sisti @Istina je @Mstislav @S1MCRO
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Malo je,bar 50%.
 
Тихи:
Kako se situacija na frontu bude nepovoljno menjala za NATO pakt nudice Bajden da 20% pripadne NJEMU
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Druže, ako se bude nepovoljno razvijala ovim tempom, dogodine će na stolu biti ponuda za između 19-21% :lol:
Sećaš kad je pao Bahmut (pr'no Mahmut, ne more se dahnut), ovde se pričalo da su otvorena vrata Lavova.
Kad ono i Avdejevka ispade puna šaka brade
 
Dе Sisti:
Druže, ako se bude nepovoljno razvijala ovim tempom, dogodine će na stolu biti ponuda za između 19-21% :lol:
Sećaš kad je pao Bahmut (pr'no Mahmut, ne more se dahnut), ovde se pričalo da su otvorena vrata Lavova.
Kad ono i Avdejevka ispade puna šaka brade
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ukrajina ce trajati koliko ce trajati finansijska pomoc zapada istoj

ni dana duze

A inflacija na zapadu sve veca i veca usled stampe love bez pokrica

BTC 61K z:D

ATH!
 
Тихи:
ukrajina ce trajati koliko ce trajati finansijska pomoc zapada istoj

ni dana duze

A inflacija na zapadu sve veca i veca usled stampe love bez pokrica

BTC 61K z:D

ATH!
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Da, ali taj novac se ulupava u uništavnje vrednosti u Ukrajini.
I čisto da znaš, za Rusiju će biti još i gori scenarijo ako zaista uspeju da zauzmu Ukrajinu.
Shvataš li da su zapadni Ukrajinci toliko kurčeviti da su ustanak dizali i protiv SSSR, a kamoli protiv vrljave Putinove Rusije što je vojnički olomila zube.
40 miliona neprijateljskog stanovništva
Oni jedva hendluju Čečeniju i to po cenu predavanja apsolutne vlasti ISISolikom Kadirovu.
 
Dе Sisti:
Da, ali taj novac se ulupava u uništavnje vrednosti u Ukrajini.
I čisto da znaš, za Rusiju će biti još i gori scenarijo ako zaista uspeju da zauzmu Ukrajinu.
Shvataš li da su zapadni Ukrajinci toliko kurčeviti da su ustanak dizali i protiv SSSR, a kamoli protiv vrljave Putinove Rusije što je vojnički olomila zube.
40 miliona neprijateljskog stanovništva
Oni jedva hendluju Čečeniju i to po cenu predavanja apsolutne vlasti ISISolikom Kadirovu.
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Rusija ce uzeti ono sto smatra svojom etnickom teritorijom.

Te zapadnoukro pripizdine ce prepustiti Poljacima i Madjarima.
 
Украјина тј. Малорусија ће припасти Русији. Све руске републике ће дефинитивно бити реинтегрисане у Руску Федерацију, једино Галиција може да им остане, то су ионако унијате.

Али све ово остало мора да припадне Русији.
 
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