Zabranjena istorija

GUTI


73It is not likely that the terms ‘Gutian’ and ‘Lullubian’ were general designations for ‘barbarous’ or ‘highlanders’ as Eidem proposes,
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but there were individuals and groups of these Zagros peoples in Mesopotamia and Syria serving in the armies and as guards in the struggling kingdoms of the OB period. This phenomenon has later parallels in the Middle Ages, when groups from the same regions of Zagros and from Armenia and Central Asia became warriors in the armies of the Ayyūbids and Mamal i ks in Syria and Egypt.
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Furthermore, one term for ‘barbarous’ or ‘highlander’ would be expected instead of ‘Gutian,’ ‘Lullubian’ and ‘Subarian.’ The Mari and northern Syrian scribes would have used the names of south Anatolian highlanders to designate a ‘highlander,’ not the names of far off Gutians and Lullubians of the Zagros. In Sumer and Babylonia, the Gutians were often mentioned in the royal inscriptions and literary compositions as barbarous enemies, scorpions, snakes, mountaineers beyond the law.
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They were also described as one of the warring peoples of the region in the Erra and Išum epic.
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The above mentioned text of Lugalanemundu is one of the oldest attestations of this people. Later, they were referred to as instruments of divine punishment and revenge, summoned by the god Enlil, or in another case by Marduk against Narām-Sîn, as in ‘The Curse of Agade.


Ethnically, the Gutians were apparently part of the ‘Zagros peoples,’ known by some authorities as ‘Caucasians,’which included Elamites, Kassites, Lullubians and others. Discussions about the term ‘namr ū / namr ū(tu)’ (meaning: bright, shining, or well-fed) used to describe Gutian slaves consider if it indicated an ethnic characteristic (fair-skinned). In an OB letter it seems to mean ‘good looking’ or the like instead of bright or fair-skinned.


Later sources continue to mention the Gutians as hostile. We read about them in the inscriptions of Aššurnasirpal II, Esarhaddon, Sargon II, Aššurbanipal and Nabuna’id. Mount Nimuš was located by Aššurnasirpal in the land of the Lullubians: “Mount Nimuš, which the Lullubians call Kinipa;” it was referred to in later texts as the mountain of the land of Guti: “….Mount Nimuš…., which is in Gutium;” this may be because the Gutians were better known by the scribes of that time than the Lullubians. Such attitudes towards the Gutians, Mount Nimuš, the Ark and the like were transformed through Hurrian in Hebrew,Syraic and Arabic literature into the story of the Ark, even as late as in the Koran, resting on the ‘Judi Mount’.
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The Gutian language must remain a mystery until texts - if there are any in that language - are discovered. Glimpses can be gathered from some personal names in the Sumerian King List and other texts, which indicate that it belonged to the larger group of languages of the Zagros area such as Elamite (?) and Lullubian.It was described as “difficult” in an inscription of Hammurabi.
From these personal names Speiser deduced some characteristics including the prefix
w/a/iarla-, the element–laga-and the consonantal suffixes–b, -š and–(a)n.
These suffixes occur in the names ‘Sarlagab,’ ‘Elulumeš,’ ‘Inimibakeš,’‘Igešauš,’ ‘Iarlagab,’ ‘Iarlaganda,’ ‘Tirigan,’ ‘Lā-‘ar ā b,’ ‘Šarlak’ who was taken captive by Šārkališarr ī , the Gutian king ‘Endušše’ of the Shemshāra letters and perhaps even‘›ataniš’ of›amazi.
The–š suffix that seems to occur frequently in personal names and in toponyms like ‘Simaš,’ ‘kimaš’ and ‘Tukriš,’ is very likely connected to the Lullubian–si,while the suffix–anwas common in the Zagros region. A very few Gutian words, all fragmentary, are found in lexical texts, including ‹hara[mbi?],an equivalent for Akkadian ‘barirtu,’ a plant, elinu for Akkadian ‘kurkanû,’ “goose plant.” Of the Gutian deities in the ‘God list’ AN =ƒ A-nu-um only the name of the last one is preserved, with a typical Gutian name ‘Abu
blab.
 
Gutian Dynasty was once dated as early as c.3567-?, but is now dated 2083-1992 BC. The land of Guti appears to have taken its name from Guti its national god. The Guti were a mountainous tribe to the east of the lower Zab, inhabiting the upper section of the region watered by the Adhaim and the Diyala rivers. The dynasty of Akkad was succeeded by another with its capital at Erech in the south, which was short-lived. The people of Gutium took revenge for their long subjection to Accad and Uruk by ravaging the cities under their king, Erridu-pizir. The Akkadian empire probably collapsed under pressure of Gutian invaders from the east. Whether they ruled from their own capital, Arrapcha, or chose one of the great cities of Babylonia as seat of government, is unknown, as is the duration of the dynasty. It is not impossible that it lasted for centuries, as the Kassite rule at a subsequent period. There is no list of rulers, but Iiasium, Lasirab, and the last of the kings, Tirikan, are referred to in inscriptions.

Sargon of Akkad repeatedly marched against the country of Gu-ti-umkl or Ku-ti-umk, even capturing King Sdrla-ak. Under Sargon I of Akkad the Guti became so troublesome that the Babylonian king had to fight against them in several campaigns. He evidently defeated them so thoroughly that for some time they ceased their raids upon his provinces. NaramSin of Akkad appears indeed to have surpassed all of his predecessors in opening up new fields of conquest, particularly to the northeast and to the southwest. His father had crossed arms with a strong mountainous group known as the Guti, and succeeded in capturing their king, Sharlak. It was left to the son, however, to follow up this movement by more systematic endeavors and on a larger scale to bring various of the groups in these distant, forbidding regions, so difficult of access, to subjection.

But soon the Guti rallied, attacked the country anew and apparently immediately after Naram-Sin's death, or even towards the end of his government, they carried their arms victoriously into Babylonia itself, first establishing themselves in the north, where under Lasirab, who calls himself only "king of (the) Guti," they conquered Sippar.

After his successful overthrow of the ruling ancient dynasty, Erridu-pizir, following in the footsteps of Naram-Sin, assumed the additional and much more significant title, "king of the four quarters of the world." Erridu-pizir, king of the Guti, was in the possession of Nippur and sat on the throne of Babylonia; for he calls himself several times in an inscription: E-ir-ri-du-pi-zi-ir (once writen En-ri-da-pi-zi-ir), da-num, sar Gu-ti-im U ki-ib-ratim ar-ba-im, "En(r)ridu(a)pizir, the powerful one, king of (the) Guti and of the four quarters of the world." Under Erridu-pizir they took possession of Nippur and subdued the whole of Babylonia, at the same time sacking many of her famous cities and temples.

This period of utter ruin and devastation is depicted in a number of beautiful Sumerian hymns, prayers and lamentation songs from the second dynasty of Ur in the Temple Library of Nippur. It doubtless also was during this first invasion of the Guti that the statue of the goddess Ishtar, referred to in a late text of the British Museum, was carried off by these ruthless barbarians, whose hand lay heavily upon the conquered nation.

The most interesting historical fact is the complete domination of the country by the Semitic Kingdom of Guti, which lay to the east of the lower Zab. The Gutian invasion led to the subjugation of both North and South Babylonia, and there can be little doubt that Elam itself acknowledged the suzerainty of these vigorous rulers, who had long been established in the mountainous regions upon their western border.

The invasion of Babylonia by the Semitic kingdom of Guti to the east of the Lower Zab, which is attested by the King List, is an event of the first importance. The puzzling stele of victory found at Lagash, on which Semites are depicted slaying Semites, may well commemorate the event. Moreover, there is proof that the invasion was followed by a complete domination of Babylonia for some considerable time. The ceremonial mace-head of Lasirab, King of Guti, which was found at Sippar, is evidence in point, as also is the text of Erridu-pizir, King of Guti, from Nippur. From a text found at Jokha it is known that Lugal-annatum, patesi of Umma, owed allegiance to Sium, King of Guti.

The domination of these Gutian Semites was brought to an end by the valor of Utukhegal, King of Erech, who captured and defeated the Gutian King. Utuchegal, who succeeds in driving the Guti out of the country," gave a vivid picture of the ravages committed. He calls the Guti "the dragon of the mountains, the enemy of the gods," and described how they tore the wives away from their husbands, robbing parents of their children and spreading devastation on all sides. Such invasions of semi-barbarous groups from the northwest and northeast were destined to repeat themselves frequently in the course of Babylonian-Assyrian history and inflicted a serious check to the advance of the Euphratean culture, though on the other hand they lead fierce tribes to take on at least a veneer of culture through contact with a higher civilization. Tribute was no doubt exacted from the conquered groups, and relationships were maintained with Magan and Melucha to the extent of procuring stones and metals from these rich districts; but the control over such sections as Subartu and the more distant settlements of the Amorites could at most have been nominal. The more direct result was the check given to the advance of the Semites, and another period of 250 years elapsed before the latter were strong enough again to risk a passage of arms with the Sumerians.

Utu-khegal, King of Erech, records how he overcame "Guti, the dragon of the mountain," defeating and capturing Tirikan, its king, after having sought the assistance of the great Babylonian gods in their shrines upon his line of march. His success marked the first wave of a Sumerian reaction, and was followed up not long afterwards by the establishment of the powerful Dynasty of Ur. The sovereignty of Sumer was not regained until Utu-Hegal of Uruk (c. 2123-2113 BC) routed the Gutians, and Ur-Nammu, the governor of Ur (2112-2095 BC), asserted the independence of his city and founded the Third Dynasty of Ur.
 
Ovo je ponešto od onoga - što se može naći o Gutima.

Guti - suglasnička osnova GT.
Dodajući razne samoglasnike mogu biti zvani i Geti, Goti, Guti, ..... ali je sve to naziv za narode bele rase.
U prethodnom tekstu se pojavljuje reč "Kavkasci" (Kavkejžn), koja označava belce u modernom jeziku (čuli ste ga sigurno u krimi serijama).
Medjutim - tu je greška.
Na Kavkazu su Potop preživeli narodi pretežno žute rase.
Zbog stoke koju su gajili, dobili su nazive Turci (po turu, govečetu) i Kozari (po kozama).
Od Turaka kasnije nastali Turkomanski narodi.
Od Kozara - Kozari (poznati po grčkom nazivu Hazari) i Kozaci.
A pretežno bela rasa je Potop preživela na planinama Zagros:




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Za divno čudo, odkako su banksteri preuzeli kontrolu nad svetom - na ovom području se konstantno vode neki ratovi, sukobi, progoni,....
A imalo bi mnogo šta zanimljivog da se iščeprka na tom području.
 
"A bijaše na cijeloj zemlji jedan jezik i jednake riječi.
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Tako ih Gospod rasu odande po svoj zemlji,
te ne sazidaše grada.
Zato se prozva Babilon,
jer ondje pomete Gospod jezik cijele zemlje,
i odande ih rasu Gospod po svoj zemlji."



Jedan jezik na celoj Zemlji?
To je jezik Rasa, jezik onih koji su stvorili predPotopnu, ali i poslePotopnu civilizaciju.
Rasi su posle Potopa živeli na području severozapadne Afrike, Bliskog i srednjeg istoka:







Taj deo se, zbog njih - i zvao Rasija.
Onda su moderni istoričari "Ra" pretvorili u "a" - i postade Asija.
 
A "pometnja jezika" se dogodila zbog naglog napuštanje te prvobitne teritorije i raseljavanja na sve strane.
Vremenom se jezik naroda koji su se udaljavali menjao, kombinovao sa jezikom domorodaca i postajao potpuno drugačiji.
Tako danas imamo Indoevropsku grupu jezika, koji svi imaju zajedničko poreklo.

A napuštanje prvobitne Rasije se desilo zbog nuklearnog holokausta.
Kontraudar Enlilita (sledbenika Jovana, Enlila) i uništenje Svemirske luke je izvedeno nuklearnim oružjem.
Sad - tu ima jedna nedoumica, koju nisam uspeo da rešim....
 
Vreme Naram-Sina i vreme uništenja Sodoma i Gomora se (naizgled) ne poklapaju.
Moguće je da je rat trajao dugo, da su se vodile žestoke borbe duži vremenski period i da je oružje za masovno uništenje upotrebljeno više puta.
A moguće je da su Abrahamovo vreme i vreme propadanja Nebrodove dinastije jako blizu.

Ono što je sigurno je:
Nuklearno oružje je jako pogubno za sve koji žive na velikom području oko mesta njegove primene.
Radioaktivni oblaci seju smrt na ogromnim područjima.
Evo i originalnih tekstova o upotrebi oružja i njegovim posledicama:

"Išum se uputi ka Najuzvišenijoj gori;
strašnih sedam (oružja) bez premca,
išlo je njegovim tragom.
Do Najuzvišenije gore heroj stiže;
podiže ruku-
gora beše raznesena;
Ravnicu pored Najuzvišenije gore
on potom zbrisa;
U šumama njenim nijedno drvo ne ostade da stoji."
 
"Potom, da učini kao Išum,
Era se povede za Kraljevim drumom.
Gradove dokrajči,
u pustoš ih poruši.
U planinama napravi glad,
životinje pobi."



"On prokopa kroz more,
celinu njegovu on razdvoji.
Ono što življaše u njemu,
čak i krokodile,
natera da skončaju.
Ko ognjem sprži životinje,
pretvori useve u prah."



"U to vreme,
za vladavine davnog kralja,
okolnosti se promeniše.
Dobro ode, patnja beše redovna.
Gospodar (Bogova) razbesni se,
isplanira odmazdu.
dade zapovest:
Bogovi tog mesta napustiše ga...
Dvojica, nahuškana da počine zlo,
nateraše čuvare da se sklone;
zaštitnici tog mesta digoše se u nebeski svod."



Enlil, na prestolu svome u visinama,
beše obuzet gnevom.
Uništitelji ponovo predložiše zlo;
Onaj koji ognjem spaljuje (Išum, Ninurta)
i gospodar opakog vetra (Era, Nergal)
zajedno počiniše svoje zlodelo.
Nateraše Bogove u bekstvo,
nateraše ih da pobegnu od ognja."


"Ono što beše podignuto ka Anuu da uzleće
Oni spržiše;
s lica zemlje zbrisaše ga,
mesto njegovo u pustoš pretvoriše"
 
Posledice dejstva:

"Izazvavši da gradovi opuste,
(Izazvavši) da kuće opuste;
Izazvavši da staje opuste,
torovi da se isprazne;
Da volova Sumerskih nema više u njihovim stajama,
da ovce ne lutaju više po svojim torovima;
Da rekama teče voda koja je gorka,
da na poljima obradjenim korov raste,
da stepe obrastu svenulim biljem."


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"Na zemlju (Sumera) nesreće pade,
nesreće nepoznata čoveku:
Nesreće dotad neviđena,
koja se ne mogaše izdržati."



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"Prestravljeni ljudi jedva mogadoše da dišu;
Opaki vetar ščepa ih,
ne dade im da dožive novi dan...
Usta behu puna krvi,
glave se kaljužale u krvi...
Lice pobelelo od Opakog vetra."


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"Opaki vetar najavi razornu oluju,
opaki udar prethodnica
Razorne oluje beše;
Moćni potomci, hrabri sinovi
behu vesnici pošasti."


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"Tog dana
kad nebo beše smoždeno
a Zemlja potučena,
njeno lice razoreno vrtlogom -
kad se nebo pomrači i pokri kao senkom..."


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"Tako svi Bogovi pobegoše iz Uruka;
i ostadoše daleko od njega;
Sakriše se u planinama,
pobegoše u daleke ravnice."


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"Na obalama Tigra i Eufrata samo bolešljive biljke rastu...
U močvarama rastu trska i rogoz bolesnoga cveta, koji trunu u smradu...
U voćnjacima i vrtovima ništa ne poraste, sve odmah samre...
Obradiva polja ne okopavaju se, seme se ne baca u zemlju,
ne ori se pesma na poljima."

"U stepi, krupna i sitna stoka oskudna postade, sva živa bića skončaše"

"Kroz torove sada vetar duva....
Bućkalica se više ne čuje iz tora...
Iz staja ne stižu ni mast ni sir...
Ninurta je lišio Sumer mleka."

"Oluja je slomila zemlju, zbrisala sve;
tutnjala je zemljom poput strašnog vetra,
niko joj ne mogaše pobeći;
opustela je gradove, opustela kuće...
više niko ne ide drumovima,
niko ne traži puteve."
 
"A bijaše na cijeloj zemlji jedan jezik i jednake riječi.
.............
Tako ih Gospod rasu odande po svoj zemlji,
te ne sazidaše grada.
Zato se prozva Babilon,
jer ondje pomete Gospod jezik cijele zemlje,
i odande ih rasu Gospod po svoj zemlji."



Jedan jezik na celoj Zemlji?
To je jezik Rasa, jezik onih koji su stvorili predPotopnu, ali i poslePotopnu civilizaciju.
Rasi su posle Potopa živeli na području severozapadne Afrike, Bliskog i srednjeg istoka:







Taj deo se, zbog njih - i zvao Rasija.
Onda su moderni istoričari "Ra" pretvorili u "a" - i postade Asija.

:zcepanje::zcepanje::zcepanje:
Idi bre begaj ovaj ti kako se zvase Sveto s brojem :rotf::rotf::rotf:
Umalo da pomislim da si teo da izvuces kao zakljucak teoriju s Rasima - (Ljajica) :rotf: pojma nemam ko je covek :zcepanje:al nema veze s teorijom koju sam mislima da ces kao srbin valjda da kazes majka RUSIJA :zcepanje: posto se rasuli jezici rasi Rasa od povetarca tihog :rotf::rotf::rotf:
Ce nas oduvas bre sve - ja mislima da ti protutnjam drugu teoriju o pretpostavkama il prorocanstvima o kraju sveta al nema veze necu te plasim jerbo ste vi "nebeski narod" od majke Rusije el Rasulije:rotf:
Raso s kupusom su ti teorije al se mos isposmejes lepo - da te ki raso protera - bre ga pretera ocu da kazem :zcepanje:
Nemo se jutis komsija - salim se malo!:bye:
Sam da ti razumem te teorije :dontunderstand:pa cu vajda nesto i da se ukjucim u diskusiju i ovde :zper:
Lepe su ti teme - valja se razmisljati - al ne preterivati - odakle ti svi ti izvori bas me zanima al pozdravljam tvoj trud!
Svaka cast!
Malkice se priumiri da ti ove teorije slegnu :rtfm: i drzi se dobro s tim pametom i Bog nama upomoc s tobom ak se razumemo da ista naucimo!
Pozdravcic :bye:
 
Posle nuklearnog holokausta na Bliskom i Srednjem istoku, preživeli Rasi su se raselili na sve strane.
Jedan deo je otišao na sever - današnja teritorija Rusije.


Što se tiče Evrope, Rasi su mogli da se presele samo na one delove - koji nisu bili pod vodom.
Skandinavsko poluostrvo, Apenini, Pirineji,....
Na Planinama oko današnjeg Jadranskog mora Potop su preživeli uglavnom Sarabi (Srbi), tadašnji divovi, pa je na tom području i danas stanovništvo medju najvišim na svetu.



 
Posle nuklearnog holokausta na Bliskom i Srednjem istoku, preživeli Rasi su se raselili na sve strane.
Jedan deo je otišao na sever - današnja teritorija Rusije.


Što se tiče Evrope, Rasi su mogli da se presele samo na one delove - koji nisu bili pod vodom.
Skandinavsko poluostrvo, Apenini, Pirineji,....
Na Planinama oko današnjeg Jadranskog mora Potop su preživeli uglavnom Sarabi (Srbi), tadašnji divovi, pa je na tom području i danas stanovništvo medju najvišim na svetu.



Esam rekla ? :zcepanje: da ce tako da ti zavrsi teorija! :hahaha:
A taj Ljajic inace Div neki srpski :hahaha: - ocu reci ministar neki, juce ga na vesti videla al neznam kako ti se uklapa u temu :rotf:
 
Ма пусти га, видиш да прича сам са собом.
Он, Зоран Јов и Камаел су отјерали све који су пробали да дискутују.
Њима су извори типа пропали келнери(фон Деникен) и фудбалери(Дејвид Ајк) нешто изузетно.
Воле да цртају у Корелу и Пејнту...
Извлаче теорије из нокта па кажу да је то мали мозак...
За дискусије овог типа боље ићи на други форум.
 
Не идем на друге форуме.
Било некад, прије мнооого година.
И овдје долазим јер ми је на "фејворитд" на компу на послу...
А и то се више не зове тако него "букмаркс"...
Ала се остарило - нисам је остарио него датирам...
:mrgreen:
 
Хајде сад одговорите, шта има ова тема (Енки, Енлил, Анунаки, Раси...) са Нибиру, који се изгледа јавља сваких 3600 година?

Зчачи, најавља се промена осе Земље, т.ј. промена географских полова.
Најавља се и промена правца обрта око своје осе Земље, т.ј. да ће Сунце почети да излази на садашњем Западу.

Објавено на 06.2.2016

Konstantin’s animation of the Last Weeks. This shows what the Earth will endure, including 9 day Severe Wobble, 4.5 days static Lean to the Left, 2.5 days progression toward 3 Days of Darkness, 3 Days of Darkness, 6 days of Sunrise West, 18 day of Slowing Rotation, and 6 (5.9) days of Rotation Stoppage. Note that the N Poles are indicated by a blue color, the S Poles by a red color, in accordance with the color scheme for magnetic poles used by the non-western half of the world, including China, Tibet, Turkey, southern Russia and Russia's Far East, Mongolia, and northern Japan. The west uses a scheme which is the opposite.

 
Прича из претходног написа је добро упоредити/надоградити са старијим видеом, који је заснован на више научним темелима.

Објавено на 16.5.2013

Наводнения в Европе. Тайфуны на Дальнем Востоке. Землетрясения в Юго-восточной Азии. Чудовищные разрушения и сотни тысяч погибших. Число природных катастроф в 21 веке каждый год увеличивается. Пришли в движение магнитные и географические полюса. В последние годы южный магнитный полюс стремительно перемещается из Антарктики в Австралию. А северный -- в сторону Сибири. Многие ученые уверены - это означает, что планета может изменить наклон.


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Ево зашто сам поставио ова два написа:

Ако неко тако много добро зна о Енкију, Енлилу и осталима, онда нека каже кад ће они/њихови опет доћи.

Јер, множе се наводне фотографије, да је Нибиру већ овде.
 
Izvini, ali odakle Ti ove informacije?
Nemam nikakvu nameru da vređam, radoznala sam...




Svi citati su iz tekstova, koje su pisali ljudi - koji su živeli u odredjenom vremenu.
Nema drugačije istorije od te.
Dakle, šta se zbivalo pre 4.000 godina - rečima čoveka koji je živeo pre 4.000 godina.
Odnosno - staroegipatski, bliskoistočni (Sumerski, Akadski, ....) spisi, drevnoindijski,....
I naravno - Sveto Pismo, kao spis sa vremenskim kontinuitetom.
 
Ево зашто сам поставио ова два написа:

Ако неко тако много добро зна о Енкију, Енлилу и осталима, онда нека каже кад ће они/њихови опет доћи.

Јер, множе се наводне фотографије, да је Нибиру већ овде.



Nibiru je mini-zvezda, iliti, rečnikom savremenih astonoma - divovska gasovita planeta, bar nekoliko puta veća od Jupitera.
Kada bude došao - svi će to videti.
Ne može se jedna zvezda sakriti.


A posledice njenog dolaska sam već opisao: zemljotresi nezamislivih vrednosti na Rihterovoj skali, cunamiji, ... ali pre svega visoka temperatura i povećana sila teže:
https://forum.krstarica.com/showthread.php/569508-Nastanak-Svemira-po-nauci-drevnih/page4#98
 

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