Microsoft Windows Vista, komentari, iskustva, planiranja u buducnosti.

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Pocelo je "poboljsanjima" necega sto nije jos ni izeksploatisano kako valja....
Pa cim se instalisu ta "poboljsanja", pojavice se "poboljsanje poboljsanog poboljsanja sa ispravljenim greskama poboljsanja i poboljsanog pobolsanja"
I tako dok se ne stabilise na ustrb korisnika i zivaca miliona i miliona ljudi...
Da ja tako radim softver, odavno bi me videli na ulici sa metalnom kanticom kako skupljam priloge za bednog programera koji nije shvatio realnost...
Zamisljam samo face mojih klijenata kad im saopstim da krajem 2007 izlazi poboljsanje softvera kojeg sam im upravo za debele pare prodao.A posle toga cu im mozda napraviti i poboljsanje poboljsanog poboljsanja, sko me ne bude mrzelo...

Da parafraziram H.Dzinovica... ".. i tebe sam sit Redmondeeeee, dabog da se zapalio, oteo si mi mnoge dane, zivce si mi istrosio - ej Redmonde, ej Redmondeeeeeeee .....
 
Ovo definitivno ne valja , smešno je da u softveru koji se praktično nije ni pojavio , neko već krpi rupe kroz koje duvaju vetrovi promaja u vidu 0 i 1 , ovo je krajnje neozbiljno od strane kompanije koja proizvodi OS .
Posle ove najave mnogi potencijalni korisnici će se zapitati : DA LI TREBA TO KUPITI ?
A i pitanje je koje će veličine biti taj servis pack , moja pretpostavka je da će biti od 500MB (minimum ) ako ne i više , na koji oni to način misle da neko skine sa interneta i dopuni , izuzev da oni šalju dvd ili cd sa SP1 svim njihovim korisnicima.

Ovo sve više deluje tužno , i smešno ujednom od strane jedne ovako ozbiljne kompanije :(
 
A da , povodom izlaska servis paka 1 za Wistu , kažu da su ga neke kompanije več dobile na testiranje, i da on krpi rupe koje Wista a to su : " preterana potrošnja energije , prevelika zahtevnost sistema , problem sa uštedama i problemi koji su evidentirani prilikom hibernacije , i uključivanja scrensaver-a i gašenja monitora računara" .
Toliko o najnovijem OS Wisti.
 
Jel moze neko ovo da prevede, ovo je uputstvo kako da se krekuje vista ali se sa engleskim ne snalazim najbolje, ako neko moze hvala unapred.

1. Get yourself copies of Vista MSDN or Vista Enterprise Edition. I used this copy of Windows Vista

"en_windows_vista_x86_dvd_X12-34293.iso".

2. Get yourself copy of the VMware KMS server image.
3. Get yourself copies of WinRAR 3.61 or later and VMWare Workstation 5.5.3-34685 or later.

Now disconnect your PC from the internet at all and do the following. Never ever connect to the internet until I say so in the following .

4. Install Vista Business Edition on a clean formatted Hard Disk. Make sure it is Business Edition and NOT Business N Edition. Business N Edition will NOT work.

5. Install WinRAR on the clean Vista Business Installation.

6.Install VMWare Workstation. A popup will most probably come up telling you to stop the installation or continue anyway.

Select continue anyway to complete the installation of VMWare workstation.

7.If VMWare didnt already make a folder in you My Documents folder, make a folder in it called "My Virtual Machines".

8. Extract the content of the KMS server image to the "My Virtual Machines" Folder.

9. Go to Start Control Panel.Switch to Classic View from the left Pane.Click on "Folder Options" icon.Switch to View Tab. And uncheck the tick sign from "Hide Extensions for known file types".Click on OK.

10.You are still in the Windows Control Panel. Click on "Windows Firewall" Icon.On the right side of the pane click on "Turn Windows Firewall on or off".Windows will ask for your permission to continue. Select "Continue" and in the next dialog box, select "Off(not recommended)" and select "OK". If stupid Windows comes up with a security alert at the bottom right task bar, just close it. No need to worry for firewall now as you are not at all connected to the internet.

11. Close the control Panel now.

12.Now move to the "My Virtual Machines" Folder. Inside that folder you will most probably see a "Vista_KMS" folder, move inside it.

13. Right click on "Windows Vista (experimental).vmx" file and open it with Windows Notepad.Type the following in it right at

the very top and save the file.

tools.synchronize.continue=FALSE
tools.synchronize.restore=FALSE
tools.synchronize.resume.disk=FALSE
tools.synchronize.shrink=FALSE
rtc.startTime = "1164286430"

14. Launch VMWare Wokstation by launching it from the desktop icon.Click on "Open Existing VM or Team" and navigate to the

"My Virtual Machines\Vista_KMS" folder and select ""Windows Vista (experimental).vmx" file".

15. Now click on "Edit Virtual Machine Settings" from the right side pane in VMWare Workstation.Select Ethernet. And then set it to "NAT:Used to share the Host's IP address". Select OK.

16. Now Start the virtual Machine. The Virtual Machine mostprobably show up a start up error because you are running this on a fresh installed VISTA and it can not find your sound card drivers of real PC. Just select ok to ignore the sound card error if it shows any. The Virtual Machine most probably will need a reboot to adjust to your Real PC processor. Also the virual machine will ask you to "Set Network Location" from 3 options "Home" or "Work" or "Public Location". Choose "Home". Reboot your Real PC.
17.In the virtual Machine go to "Start --> Control Panel". Double click on "Windows Firewall" Icon and turn the firewall of the Virtual Machine off. Come out of the firewall settings and close the control panel off.
18.In the virtual Machine now type "cmd" in the run box to get the DOS command prompt runing.
19. Type "ipconfig" in the command prompt. And then note down the "IPv4" adress it is showing inside the command prompt.
20. Now in your REAL VIISTA machine click on Start Button, All Programs, Accessories folder and then right click on the command prompt and select "Run as administrator".
21. You are inside your REAL Vista Command prompt now. Type in
ping ***.***.***.***"
where ***.***.***.*** is the IPv4 address of your virtual machine that you noted down in step. Ping should be able to reach
that virtual machine ID and report back 0% packet loss.

22.Now type in the command prompt
cscript c:\windows\system32\slmgr.vbs -skms ***.***.***.***
where ***.***.***.*** is the IPv4 address of your virtual machine

You will get the message such as
"Key management service machine name set to ***.***.***.*** sucessfully" where ***.***.***.*** is the IPv4 address of your virtual machine
23. You are still inside your REAL Vista Command prompt now. Type in
cscript c:\windows\system32\slmgr.vbs -ato
Wait for about 30 seconds and bite your nail. Finally a message will be displayed
"Product activated sucessfully"
24.You are still inside your REAL Vista Command prompt now. Type in the following to check the activation status of your Real Vista machine now.

script c:\windows\system32\slmgr.vbs -dlv
25.Time to wind everything up now. Exit the Real machine command promt by typing in "exit" in it. Exit the Virtual machine command promt by typing in "exit" in it. Shut down the Virtual Machine by select "Start --> Shutdown" in the virtual machine desktop screen. shut Down VMWare Workstation.
26. Reboot your Real Machine.
27. Now you can load other device drivers for your real pc and connect to the net too
28. Install a very powerfull software firewall and make sure that Windows can NOT check for updates and otherwise inform Microsoft of your machine status.
29. Drink Beer.
 
marko47:
Izaso je i dugo ocekivani sistem.Cena je malo prevelika za nase prostore od 100 do 400 dolara u zavisnosti od verzije.Mada mi cekamo i jeftinije piratske verzije koje vec na internetu ima.
ALELUJA!!!!!
Bah mi je drago zbog tebe sto se radujes!
Samo me zivo zanima imas li ti komp koji ce ti omoguciti komforan rad u Visti?
Sto bi jedan prosecan korisnik racura SAD presao na Vistu?
 
virked:
Bah mi je drago zbog tebe sto se radujes!
Samo me zivo zanima imas li ti komp koji ce ti omoguciti komforan rad u Visti?
Sto bi jedan prosecan korisnik racura SAD presao na Vistu?

Iz licnog ranijeg iskustva prilikom prelaska sa 98' na XP znam da su nam u SAD klijenti presli takvom brzinom na XP, da smo jedva iscupali zive glave preradjuci softver da bude 100% za XP spreman. Presli su na XP brzinom svetlosti.
Isto ocekujem sa Vistom. Vec sam spremio novu masinu samo za Vista sistem i testiranje aplikacija na njemu, jer ne mogu dozvoliti da me cimaju u vezi dosadasnjih programa.
Doduse jeru svi 32-bitni ali veliko je pitanje kompatibilnosti. Cujem danas na "malim ekranima nasih TV prijemnika" da ce do 2011 drzati kompatibilnost sa XP ali M$ ne treba bas mnogo vreovati.
 
2black wolf
Moraću naterati nekog da mi je skine a možeš li mi reći kako će vista da radi na 512 DDR 400

Pa to je minimum,trebala bi da radi,videćemo sve kad se dohvatimo navedenog OS-a!!

Možda je apsurdno,ali su naveli minimum 800 Mhz procesor,512 Mb rama,16 Gb prostora.......saznaćemo! :)

Verujem da svi imaju dobre predospozicije..........;)

Ali naći će se neko već sa jačim činjenicama da nam kaže!
 
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