Guns'n'Roses

igorsr:
e pa mnogo pricas bez argumenata
kao prvo axl rose je poceo da trci po bini kada je pocela uyi turneja 1991,a pre toga to nije radio.
bruce dickinson i axl rose po meni nemaju nikakve slicnosti
kao drugo [po tebi je slash trebao da napravi neku gitaru da ne bi podsecao na nekog
gnr muzika je rnr iz sedamdesetih u prilagodjen 80 i 90
axl je 1988 rejkao da gnr nikada nece biti heavy bend
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Hmm,da,trcanje po bini,pa seti se sta je Byff Bifford pre Dickinsona,ili Klaus Meine.Po ponasanju,pokretima,samom nacinu pevanja,tom Axlovom mucenju glasa tu neodoljivo podseca na Dickinsona.Cudi me da ga Steve Harris nije pozvao da peva u Iron Maiden kada je Bruce otisao.
Sto se tice gitare Slasha.On svira isto kao i ja.Gibson standard gitaru,ali same njegove note,uglavnom pocinju iz e-mola i to na isti nacin kao sto je radio Ace Frehley (koji je isto svirao Gibson standard),samo sto kod razlaganja harmonija,primetio sam da Slash bezrazlozno uspori kao da ne moze da izvuce vise od 3 tona u roku od par sekundi,a kada se to otsvira brze,dobijes cisti ton Frehleya. Takodje u tercima u studiju uvek je pravio smetnje sam sebi prilikom nasnimavanja druge gitare,gde bi za samo jedan prag vise podigao ton.A zna se kako se sviraju terci.
 
New Rose:
E ali meni skroz ovo nije jasno - Slash ima ciste solaze, da, ali mi nije jasno, mislim, pa sta sto gitarista Kissa ima slican/isti fazon? Mislim, uzmimo pocetak svega, klasicnu muziku, pa doba romantizma, klasicizma, itd... Jedan List i Sopen pripadaju istom periodu i imaju slicnosti ali i razlicitosti, samo bi se trebalo dovoljno udubiti da se vidi. Ok, Slash ima ciste solaze ( sto mi se jako svidja ), Axl kresti i trci, Duff malo jurca za ritmom, ali Axl NIJE Bruce, itd kako vec sve ide...
Mozda sve lici i podseca, ali nije isto... Mozda ono malo razlike je ono sto im daje svima smek...
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Naravno da ces u nedostatku argumenata poceti da se hvatas klasicne muzike.
E pa sad,posto Heavy Metal heroji zvani KISS imaju opet u svoijm redovima tog majstora zvanog Ace Frehley,pod kojim su skoro svi Americki gitaristi svirali,tako je i Slash pao pod njegov uticaj i prvo sto je poceo da skida jesu bile pesme KISS.Ali sigurno da nikada nije odsvirao solaze sa pesama "Deuce", "Black Diamond", "Shock Me",koje su bile prebrze za njega.
Ace je neretko koristio tapping,sto koliko god je Slash pokusavao da uradi nije mu poslo za rukom pa se onda vadio sa jacom distorzijom da bi njegovo sviranje zvucalo tako kako zvuci.
Solaze Slasha u pesmama November Rain i Sweet Child bukvalno se sviraju na 4 praga uz menjanje samo 3 note.Dosta pitko i primamljivo za mlade pocetnike da to sviraju,ali ne dovoljno i za mene.
U solazi za Paradise city dolazi do takozvanog muljanja tonova kada pokusava da odsvira toliko mnogo za kratko vreme sto je brze moguce,tako da pazljivim slusanjem,primetio sam da tu postoje samo 2 skale iz A sto ih on svira krajnje nespretno i dolazi do mesanja petostepene snizene kvinte i skale iz A.
Sve u svemu bolje bi mu bilo da je uzimao casove kod Michael Schenkera ili jos bolje kod John Sykes iz Thin Lizzy,onda bi naucio kako se sta radi.
 
Dont_Break_The_Oath:
igorsr:
e pa mnogo pricas bez argumenata
kao prvo axl rose je poceo da trci po bini kada je pocela uyi turneja 1991,a pre toga to nije radio.
bruce dickinson i axl rose po meni nemaju nikakve slicnosti
kao drugo [po tebi je slash trebao da napravi neku gitaru da ne bi podsecao na nekog
gnr muzika je rnr iz sedamdesetih u prilagodjen 80 i 90
axl je 1988 rejkao da gnr nikada nece biti heavy bend
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Hmm,da,trcanje po bini,pa seti se sta je Byff Bifford pre Dickinsona,ili Klaus Meine.Po ponasanju,pokretima,samom nacinu pevanja,tom Axlovom mucenju glasa tu neodoljivo podseca na Dickinsona.Cudi me da ga Steve Harris nije pozvao da peva u Iron Maiden kada je Bruce otisao.
Sto se tice gitare Slasha.On svira isto kao i ja.Gibson standard gitaru,ali same njegove note,uglavnom pocinju iz e-mola i to na isti nacin kao sto je radio Ace Frehley (koji je isto svirao Gibson standard),samo sto kod razlaganja harmonija,primetio sam da Slash bezrazlozno uspori kao da ne moze da izvuce vise od 3 tona u roku od par sekundi,a kada se to otsvira brze,dobijes cisti ton Frehleya. Takodje u tercima u studiju uvek je pravio smetnje sam sebi prilikom nasnimavanja druge gitare,gde bi za samo jedan prag vise podigao ton.A zna se kako se sviraju terci.
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axl na bini ima stil igranja "like a snake".to je rekao kurt loder,stozer maidena je harison(bass gitara),a gunsa axl tako da se on i bruce nikako ne mogu porediti.
slash uopste nema ciste solaze,vec dosta prljave i zato najvise podseca na joe perry-a (aerosmith)
 
U NEDOSTATKU ARGUMENATA HVATANJE KLASICNE MUZIKE???AAAAAAAAAAAA TO JE LOSE, NE DIRAJ KLASIKU!!!!!! :wink:
Prvo, ne svira sve (vecinu) iz E(e) vec iz Es(es) da ne kazem Dis, ali ja se ne bavim time mnogo jer ja zapravo gitaru gotovo i da ne sviram... Uostalom, ko kaze da jednostavno ne moze biti i lepo? Nije potrebna hrpa tonova, i zahtevna tehnika da bi neka stvar bila dobra... Bitna je muzika, a ne tehnika, a to kao klasicar garantujem... Uostalom tako je svugde, muzika je bitna a ne hitrost prstiju i koliko nota na kom pragu i slicno...
Uostalom, Gunsi, koliko se ja razumem, - veci idol im je bio Elton John nego Kiss. Zapravo Aerosmith kao najveci, ( Elvisa je Axl obozavao ), The Rolling Stones i sl...
Mislim da oni, sta su god radili, kopirali ili bili originalni to su odlicno radili...
 
I prekini da koristis NARAVNO i SIGURNO kad nista nije tako jer ti ne znas da li je Slash ikada to odsvirao i da li se ja NARAVNO uvek hvatam klasicne muzike kad nemam sta da kazem... jer ti NARAVNO nisi sveznalica ( iako skidam kapu da znas ponesto ), i NARAVNO ne mozes generalizovati i pricati o necemu sto NARAVNO i SIGURNO ne znas. Vidis kako iritira?
 
ralekg:
nema pojma da axl podseca na dikinsona,axl je monogo jaci frontmen,tekstopisac,muzicar i rok zvezda od njega
A Axl je milion puta rekao da je njegov idol michael Monroe(HANOI ROCKS)
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Hmm,kako moze Axl da bude bolji tekstopisac od Bruce Dickinsona koji ima doktorat iz istorije i politikologije,a ne vidim u cemu je axl to jaci frontmen od Brucea koji peva u jednom od najvecih bandova na svetu.Ili ti mozda aludiras na to da je vecinu textova za Iron Maiden napisao Steve Harris i da je Bruce Dickinson samo jedan od ostalih Maiden clanova?
I nije poenta biti rock zvezda,nego izvrstan muzicar,a Bruce Dickinson je to krajem sedamdesetih godina i dokazao.A jos uvek je u samom vrhu.

A onaj feminizirano nastrojeni Finac iz Hanoi Rocksa koji je vec par puta uspeo da unisti svoj band i da se proglasi za zvezdu tako sto je pljuvao po Helsinkiu i prosjacio po Stockholmu,sve dok nije stigao do L.A.. Pa nije ni cudo sto ga niko u Finskoj ne voli.
 
igorsr:
Pa i dr.Vojislav Kostunica je doktor prava,ali ipak nije bolji tekstopisac od Axl-s.lol
Bruce Dickinson je bio veoma popularan,ali status rok zvezde nikada i nikad nece imate.
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Ne diraj mi Kostunicu!!!!!Grrrrrrr!!!!!!!
Poslusaj tekstove koje je radio Bruce Dickinson u Iron Maiden,poput "Flight Of Icarus","Revelations",
"2 Minutes To Midnight","Powerslave","The Evil That Men Do",i onda njegove solo albume,najvise Accident of Birth i The Chemical Wedding,pa da vidis kako je covek pisao tekstove kada je bio oslobodjen pritiska Steve Harrisa.
 
kad smo vec kod tekstove,evo ti nekih:

"What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach...
So, you get what we had here last week,
which is the way he wants it!
Well, he gets it!
N' I don't like it any more than you men." *

Look at your young men fighting
Look at your women crying
Look at your young men dying
The way they've always done before

Look at the hate we're breeding
Look at the fear we're feeding
Look at the lives we're leading
The way we've always done before

My hands are tied
The billions shift from side to side
And the wars go on with brainwashed pride
For the love of God and our human rights
And all these things are swept aside
By bloody hands time can't deny
And are washed away by your genocide
And history hides the lies of our civil wars

D'you wear a black armband
When they shot the man
Who said "Peace could last forever"
And in my first memories
They shot Kennedy
I went numb when I learned to see
So I never fell for Vietnam
We got the wall of D.C. to remind us all
That you can't trust freedom
When it's not in your hands
When everybody's fightin'
For their promised land

And
I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war

Look at the shoes your filling
Look at the blood we're spilling
Look at the world we're killing
The way we've always done before
Look in the doubt we've wallowed
Look at the leaders we've followed
Look at the lies we've swallowed
And I don't want to hear no more

My hands are tied
For all I've seen has changed my mind
But still the wars go on as the years go by
With no love of God or human rights
'Cause all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars

"We practice selective annihilation of mayors
And government officials
For example to create a vacuum
Then we fill that vacuum
As popular war advances
Peace is closer" **

I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
And I don't need your civil war
I don't need your civil war
I don't need your civil war
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war
I don't need one more war

I don't need one more war
Whaz so civil 'bout war anyway

Drums: Steven Adler
Bass: Duff
Lead and Rhythm Guitars / Acoustic Guitar: Slash
Vocals: Axl
Piano: Dizzy Reed
Background Vocals: Duff, Dizzy

I know this chick she lives down on Melrose
She ain't satisfied without some pain
Friday night is goin' up inside her...again
Well crack the whip
'Cause that bitch is just insane
I'm serious

She's pretty tied up hangin' upside down
She's pretty tied up an you can ride her
She's pretty tied up hangin' upside down
I can't tell you she's the right one
Oh no, oh no, oh no
Once there was this rock n' roll band
Rollin' on the streets
Time went by and it became a joke
We just needed more and more fulfilling-
Uh-huh Time went by and it all went up in smoke
But check it out
She's pretty tied up hangin' upside down
She's pretty tied up an you can ride her
She's pretty tied up hangin' upside down
Ohh I can't tell you she's the right one
Oh no, oh no, oh no

Once you made that money it costs more now
It might cost a lot more than you'd think
I just found a million dollars
That someone forgot
It's days like this that push me o'er the brinks
Cool and stressing
(Pronounced:Kool ranch dres'ing)

She's pretty tied up hangin' upside down
She's pretty tied up an you can ride her
She's pretty tied up hangin' upside down
And I can't tell you she's the right one
Oh she's the right one...(etc.)

(But I can tell you a thing or two
'Bout somethin' else
If you really wanna know-Know what I'm sayin')

ESTRANGED

When you're talkin to yourself
And nobody's home
You can fool yourself
You came in this world alone
(Alone)

So nobody ever told you baby
How it was gonna be
So what'll happen to you baby
Guess we'll have to wait and see
One, two

Old at heart but I'm only 28
And I'm much too young
To let love break my heart
Young at heart but it's getting much too late
To find ourselves so far apart

I don't know how you're s'posed
To find me lately
An what more could you ask from me
How could you say that I never needed you
When you took everything
Said you took everything from me

Young at heart an it gets so hard to wait
When no one I know can seem to help me now
Old at heart but I musn't hesitate
If I'm to find my own way out

Still talkin' to myself and nobody's home
(Alone)

So nobody ever told us baby
How it was gonna be
So what'll happen to us baby
Guess we'll have to wait and see

When I find out all the reasons
Maybe I'll find another way
Find another day
With all the changing seasons of my life
Maybe I'll get it right next time
An now that you've been broken down
Got your head out of the clouds
You're back down on the ground
And you don't talk so loud
An you don't walk so proud
Any more, and what for

Well I jumped into the river too many times
to make it home
I'm out here on my own, an drifting all alone
If it doesn't show give it time
To read between the lines
'Cause I see the storm getting closer
And the waves they get so high
Seems everything We've ever known's here
Why must it drift away and die

I'll never find anyone to replace you
Guess I'll have to make it thru, this time
Oh this time
Without you

I knew the storm was getting closer
And all my friends said I was high
But everything we've ever known's here
I never wanted it to die

BREAKDOWN

We all come in from the cold
We come down from the wire
An everybody warms themselves
to a different fire
When sometimes we get burned
You'd think sometime we'd learn
The one you love is the one
That should take you higher
You ain't got no one
You better go back out and find her

Just like children hidin' in a closet
Can't tell what's goin' on outside
Sometimes we're so far off the beaten track
We'll get taken for a ride
By a parlor trick or some words of wit
A hidden hand up a sleeve
To think the one you love
could hurt you now
Is a little hard to believe
But everybody darlin' sometimes
Bites the hand that feeds

When I look around
Everybody always brings me down
Well is it them or me
Well I just can't see
But there ain't no peace to found
But if someone really cared
Well they'd take the time to spare
A moment to try and understand
Another one's despair
Remember in this game we call life
That no one said it's fair

Breakdown
Let me hear it now
Breakdown
let me hear it now
Yeah
Breakdown
Let me hear it now
Breakdown
let me hear it now
Get down with yo' bad self
Alright

I've come to know the cold
I think of it as home
When there ain't enough of me to go around
I'd rather be left alone
But if I call you out of habit I'm out of love and
I gotta have it
Would you give it to me if I fit you needs
Like when we both knew we had it
But now the damage's done
And we're back out on the run
Fun how ev'rything was roses
When we held on to the guns
Just because you're winnin'
Don't mean you're the lucky ones

Breakdown
Let me hear it now
Breakdown
Yeah
Breakdown
Breakdown
Let me hear it now

"There goes the challenger being chased
By the blue blue meanies on wheels
The vicious traffic squad cars are after
our lone driver
The last American hero
The-the electric sintar
The demi-god,
The super driver of the golden west!
Two nasty Nazi cars are close behind
The beautiful lone driver
The police cars are getting closer-closer...
Closer to our soul hero in his soul mobile
Yeah baby!
They about to strike, They gonna get him,
Smash! Rape!
The last beautiful free soul on this planet

But...it is written if the Evil Spirit arms the Tiger with claws
Brahman provided wings for the Dove
Thus spake the Super Guru" *
"Did you hear that"
 
Dont_Break_The_Oath:
Ne iritira nimalo New Rose,sta vise,cak i prija,jako mi prija da cujem argumente koji mogu mene da ucutkaju,a ovim si ti uspela.
Mada zaista sam ja sve svirao iz E i sve je zvucalo identicno.
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???? :shock: :shock: :shock: Lazes... Nije valjda 1. april ili tako neka sprdnja? Vauu :roll: ...EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE LJUDI GLEDAJTE `VAMO JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :D :D :D :D :wink:
Dakle, Dont_Break_The_Oath, ne verujem sta citam...
Eeee eto, ko je sad majstor? :D
( Zasto imam osecaj da ces opet da me poklopis? )

Pah... Eto... Nemojte Kostunicu, posten covek...
Mozda je Bruce inteligentniji, nacitaniji i recitiji covek, ali ipak za osecanja nije skola potrebna...
Bitno je citati izmedju redova :wink: a za to se skola nikako ne uci.

POZ :D
 
Flea.RHCP:
Jel to ima negde da se skine sa neta?
i kolike je velicine?
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Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee... Mnogo je dobro, samo sto je kraj provaljen ( necu da vam kazem u ta ta ), ja sam skinula uz Kazaa, nije mnogo tezak, ali je ok smisljeno, fazoni i forice mada zaista ima stvari na koje je faca :shock: :shock: shock: :cry: i posle toga "Mamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!"
Dobro ajd` nije toliko tragicno ali ima bizarnih scena...
POZ :D
 
e pa da:P posle toga je motorna:)))
ma bas je kul!
a ja ga i jesam skinula s neta(nije veliko),mada sam pre toga odgledala kraj na vh1 :roll:

ali..omlet od slashovog mozga :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
xixi...i na kraju 'slash has made paper dolls out of axl-what an artist!' :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
ma kazza vam je puna virusa,a ako hocete da nskidate gnr stvari,onda je pravo mesto gnr hub(imate sve zivo,skoro svaki koncert),a virusa nema
prvo idite na download.com,onda u search opcija kucajte dc++,onda skinite najnoviju verziju dc++,kada skinete program dc++,treba da popunite opciju settings,i onda kucajte
hub.newgnr.com(u mannual connect adress)
spirognr.no-ip.org(jos jedna adresa)
i nacicete se u gnr zemlji
 
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