Gde postoji krav maga klub u Bg?

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A bre braco srbi, ..patriote,... svidja mi se sledeca stvar : vezbate neku vestinu godinu-dve, pet, a ne znate i dalje mnogo toga oko nje...Sta kazete Vesa imao 3 glasa na skupstini...haha, i to mi se svidja...mogao bih i o tome , ali ..necu, nego Krav maga,... pa moram priznati da kad sam je video na nekim trakama, izgleda kao bezvezarija,ali to ipak nije , jer ono sto bi se moglo nazvati marketingom, ne prolazi tako lako kod vojnih sluzbi, koje sve to moraju da testiraju na terenu...Mogu vam navesti dva primera mojih poznanika koji ce u jednom segmentu biti afirmativni , ali u drugom segmentu bas suprotno, kad se govori o recimo Krav Magi. Prvi , expert u vise boril. disciplina kaze: ma to je 90% tehnika baziranih na tehnikama koje se odnose na vrat protivnika, i ne svidja mi se... Drugi, koji nije majstor zvanicno nicega, veoma ceni vestine Krav Maga i Systema, ali slucajno ja znam da bi vecinu vezbaca i jedne i druge vestine kod nas mogao da izsakotonogata. I sta je onda zakljucak...? Pa, dragi experti moracete jos dosta spanaca , mislim da pojedete...Pozz.
 
Ma super je da kod Dejanovica sam.

Mikele je meni super za druzenje, ali jedno je to... Ja sto vise ga gledam ja sam sve vise fasciniran kako on covek radi, on mi je genijalan, nekako ima osecaj ono, ...ne mogu da opisem. Tako je usao u sustinu, ne samo aikidoa, nego same borbe i pokreta.

A i on je sam napredovao mnogo od kad je Ikeda se razboleo, i povukao.

Sta ga ja znam, meni je mikele, preteran.

E sad taj hojo.... Ume malo da smori, ali cesto sam kontao da ga sigurno ne bi Miklele gurao da ne valja, ali i sam sam video mnoge vredne stavi koje se uce u hojou, verovao ili ne...

E sad ima i on mana, ono ali ne u tehnickom smislu.
 
Autobus 88:
e evo ti ih...

0643410565 - neki njihov trener

Ili probaj da se uclanis u Mosad oni ce te isto nauciti tome
ako oces u Mosad idi do jevrejske opstine i raspitaj se....

O jevrejima sve najg.... Uceti od neprijatelja cemu se sluzi to treba. Krav Maga je praktican. I ide samo na jedno. Najefektivnije moguce onesposobiti napadaca. Svakako je jako ofanzivan. Nije ovo aikido :lol: Ili karate koji nimalo nije praktican.
Krav Maga je najprakticniji.
 
-Dimitrije-:
O jevrejima sve najg.... Uceti od neprijatelja cemu se sluzi to treba. Krav Maga je praktican. I ide samo na jedno. Najefektivnije moguce onesposobiti napadaca. Svakako je jako ofanzivan. Nije ovo aikido :lol: Ili karate koji nimalo nije praktican.
Krav Maga je najprakticniji.

Hehe sad si me bas iznervirao, evo pojedoh se ziv... :lol:

Ja treniram balet-aikido, a ne macho stvar kao sto je to sto ti. :lol:
 
Ne znam da li treba da se pojedes ziv, ali u temi "Gde ima Krav Maga klub u bg" stvarno ne vidim potrebu da pricas o necem drugom!? Pogotovo ne da uporno propagiras nesto o cemu se i previse neopravdano prica.

Meni se Krav Maga kad se prica o shibanju svidja mnogo vise od raznoraznih istocnjackih vestina koje je moguce vezbati u Beogradu. E sad jos uvek nisam upoznat sa time kakav je kadar, to jest koliko su ti instruktori kod nas priuceni ili kompetentni. Jedina stvar koju bih mozda mogao da zamerim KM je to sto se dosta polaze na navezbavanje unapred odredjenih kombinacija, sto je iseckan pokret previse da bio bio optimalan i sto podrazumeva snagu i kondiciju vojnika koji je primenjuje. To je samo cini manje primenjivom za obican svet i zene, bez obzira na filmove :-)

E sad, ako budem imao prilike da poradim malo sa nekim imacu verovatno bolji uvid u to da li sam u pravu ili gresim.
 
milosmalic:
Ne znam da li treba da se pojedes ziv, ali u temi "Gde ima Krav Maga klub u bg" stvarno ne vidim potrebu da pricas o necem drugom!? Pogotovo ne da uporno propagiras nesto o cemu se i previse neopravdano prica.
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Ma hocu, pojecu se ziv! :lol: :)

Shala, ali ja kad vidim da neko kaze da je KM prakticna a npr. karate nije... Ja moram da odgovorim. Da pravi karatista izvede udarac ma nema te KM koja ce te spasti, oni su zmije! Samo to rade i vezbaju, i ako to neko vezba 5 godina ili 3 ili 10 ne moze ti pomoci nikakva unapred uvezbana tehnika kako si i sam rekao iz KM...
 
Ovde se slazem sa Milosem.Ljudi,ako je tema krav maga....cemu dve strane o aikidou. Inace ja od skoro treniram KM,bio sam i na seminaru pre par dana kada je dolazio poznati trener KM iz Izraela...sve sto je demonstrirao je efikasno,mada je istina da je potrebna i snaga...ali sta sad,nista nije savrseno,je li? O Km imate dosta toga objasnjeno na site-u krav-maga.org.yu Pozdrav svima!
 
Krav Maga is Different from Traditional Martial Arts

A common criticism of some traditional martial arts is the lack of real-life applicability – will all those fancy moves hold up against thugs on the street? A lot of people when asked why they study their particular Martial Art will answer "So I can look after myself", or something similar. After awhile most people seem to realize that most Martial Arts in their traditional form are not realistic self defense systems - and were never meant to be - but a sport, whereby a modern Karate practitioner (for example) can compete against another karate practitioner. There are rules to prevent illegal moves and foul play; and that is how it should be. This of course is a very basic view as most martial arts offer the serious student a lot more such as self-awareness and character building, fitness, friendship and so on. Unlike most martial arts that are formal, ritual-oriented, and difficult to learn, Krav Maga is all about fighting dirty and learning no-holds-barred moves in a realistic environment. Indeed there are some similarities between Krav Maga and traditional eastern martial arts. The style consists of street survival tactics that includes a hybrid of mixed martial arts techniques also utilized in boxing, karate, judo, ju-jitsu, muay thai, as well as a number of less well-known styles. However, it is one of the few fighting styles in the world which adapts to the student rather than expecting the student to adapt to it, teaching students to build on their natural reflexes. In an assault situation an individual has the right to use whatever techniques necessary to defend themselves. For this reason, there are no competitive tournaments, katas, rituals, or choreographed routines in Krav Maga. Instead, Krav Maga relies on retzef or "continuous motion" to complete the defense. Krav Maga was developed in an environment where the Israeli military could not devote many hours to prolonged hand-to-hand combat training for their personnel. Therefore, the Krav Maga system was created with great importance placed on bringing students to a high level of skill in a relatively short period.

Krav Maga uses a simple approach to learning through constant practice and repetition. The most effective defenses against each kind of assault become almost second nature and automatic, so that in actual “street” confrontations they will be immediately utilized. In its military capacity and highest levels of learning, Krav Maga teaches not just defenses against armed and unarmed attack, but how to initiate an attack. Krav Maga training stresses the ability to react when surprised. Techniques and training methods emphasize the ability to function from a poor state of readiness, and to move from a passive to aggressive state immediately in order to fight back and survive. By emphasizing and practicing a few key defense techniques for each assault the style is able to consider a wide range of defense options hardly ever found in other styles, making Krav Maga a complete fighting system. Instructors incorporate realistic reenactments, teaching students how to operate under the stress of an actual attack. Students learn to defend against common chokes, grabs, and bear hugs, as well as weapons such as guns, knives, and sticks. Just as important, students learn to function during the stress and shock of a sudden, violent encounter. Krav Maga is easy to learn and suitable to everyone who needs an effective way of self-defense. In addition to self-defense, Krav Maga teaches hand to hand combat. This is a more advanced and sophisticated phase, and shows how to neutralize an opponent quickly and effectively. It embodies elements related to the actual performance of the fight including tactics, feints, powerful combinations of different attacks, the psychological dimensions of the fight, and learning how to use the environment to your advantage.


Principles of Krav Maga
• Avoid injury.
• Devise drills that take advantage of natural reflexes.
• Defend and attack in the minimum time required.
• Use of the human body’s vulnerable spots.
• Use of the body’s natural weapons as well as ordinary objects that may be nearby.
• No Rules, use everything you have


Characteristics of Krav Maga
According to law enforcement trainers, the most striking characteristics of the system are:
• Students are instructed in state-of-the-art defensive principles that apply to a variety of threatening attacks that occur during commonly documented street crimes.
• Students train from a position of disadvantage in real time and real speed.
• Defensive maneuvers are combined with simultaneous counterattacks until all potential danger is eliminated.
• Unique training methods are employed to simulate violent street encounters. This is necessary to place students under extreme stress while performing Krav Maga techniques. Students learn to go from a passive to an aggressive state quickly.
• Krav Maga also teaches students to function with their attention divided; while fatigued; and when they are faced with a multitude of spontaneous attack scenarios.


Benefits of Krav Maga
Awareness
Students of Krav Maga use basic moves in various combinations to fend off violent attacks. This means that students adjust to new situations through improvisation, an important and unique feature of this style. Of course, this requires using the “head” as well as the body, and thus Krav Maga addresses the thought process as well as the physical action.

Confidence
Improvisation also allows for limitations in physical abilities. Not everyone can bring his or her leg up to a 180-degree angle, and thus the system is geared towards the average person. Students are taught a variety of possible defensive reactions for each possible attack situation, building upon an actual framework of useable techniques. They are then encouraged to utilize the responses that are appropriate to their capabilities. This allows the student to develop a sense of confidence in their abilities.

Self-control
The mind and body self-control are developed through practice. The student will learn how to control his six senses (he develops the 5 basic senses and the sixth, the ability to foresee the movements before they are made, and is also the ability to sense the environment around him). Many types of exercises make the student able to control any muscle or part of his body. If we think on movement as a sequence of moves passing quickly from one to another like a movie, in Krav Maga we develop the perception of the move in its first frame. The instinctive movement is worked to exhaustion, because is essential in dangerous situations. The instinctive movement is very fast, and it is apart from the emotional state, which the brain controls the movements just by reflex.

Physical Fitness
Being physically and mentally prepared to handle confrontation is why so many people, as well as hundreds of law enforcement agencies, train in Krav Maga, it keeps them from becoming victims. Because physical fitness is closely interwoven into the system, the workout includes a number of cardiovascular and strength building exercises, as well as stretching to increase flexibility. Emphasis is put on speed, endurance, strength, accuracy, and coordination, especially for intensive Krav Maga training.

Movements
All Krav Maga moves were created based on natural body movements and are all very simple. This is what makes their use easier on danger and surprise situations. The moves are short, and by consequence, fast. There are no rules, the techniques was created for real-life situation application. The strikes are intended to body sensible targets, what makes the Krav Maga practitioner and his adversary even, independently from their physical strength, and makes the defense more objective. In short: Krav Maga is a simple personal defense system, fast, and objective, accessible to anyone.
 
Technique of Krav Maga
The technique is based on mind and intellectual force no matter what the physical strength you have, and had as a goal the transference of weight as explosive force. As physics tells us, strength is equaled to mass multiplied by acceleration. The strike brings to the target the striker’s bodyweight. The strike’s movement works as a spring released: the speed does not have continuous acceleration; it is released at maximum speed. The techniques practiced in the style must be in terms of actual defense situations. In fact students of Krav Maga are taught the vulnerable points (i.e. back of neck, temples, eyes, throat, knees, groin, etc..) on the human body and are encouraged to use this knowledge to fend off an attack.

Components of Krav Maga
Techniques of Self-Defense
• Defense against punches and kicks
• Releases from bear hugs and chokes
• Defense against knifes and clubs, etc.
• Defense against guns
• Defense against multiple attackers

Face-to-Face Combat
• Various types of kicks/arm blows
• Sparring under pressure
• Controlled fighting

Groundwork
A Krav Maga student is as comfortable in a ground confrontation as standing confrontation. (Note: a student does not necessarily want to be situated on the ground during a confrontation for several reasons including the threat of multiple attackers. Nevertheless, the reality is that many fights do end up on the ground.) Krav Maga incorporates extensive groundwork tailored to the Krav Maga philosophy of quickly disabling or neutralizing an opponent. In other words, a Krav Maga practitioner does not necessarily intend for a "submission" or "tap out" from an opponent as common in sport fighting. A Krav Maga student will execute a joint dislocation or worse to end to the confrontation. (On this and related points, use of force and legal issues are important considerations. A defender must not exceed "reasonable" force or use excessive measures once the threat ceases to be a danger. Use of force issues vary considerably and it is incumbent for a defender to know what is legally acceptable.)


Belt Sequence
At the modern times, the human being needs symbols to feel that he is going forward and progressing - for many different reasons. That is why Krav Maga follows a graduation system of colored belts, like the martial arts. One thing you will notice in classes; however, is that no one wears their belt. Plus, although students must successfully pass a belt test to reach the next belt level, students are not required to belt test. The teaching of Krav Maga is divided in two parts: the first goes from the white to blue belt, where one learns the self-defense techniques. The second, that goes from blue to black belt, where one learns the face-to-face combat, combat techniques and more complexes exercises. Krav Maga belt ranking system is as follows: (Time frames are for the average student.)

• White belt – 2 months to advance.
• Yellow belt – 3 months to advance.
• Orange belt – 6 – 8 months to advance.
• Green belt – 1 year to advance.
• Blue belt – 1 year to advance.
• Brown belt – 1 year to advance.
• Black belt – 1 year to advance.

White/Yellow Belt
In this initial stage, it is important to learn the movements with much attention to details. The student will encounter the first movements of releases and attacks. Most of these moves can be applied in any type of short-range aggression. The student must practice the strikes many times, in slow moves. When the student has already learned the moves in all details, speed increases to the maximum as possible, to give more power to the strike.

Orange Belt
When arriving at the third phase, the orange belt, the student must have all control over the first attacks already known and must be able to use them with great efficiency and speed. Here, he will learn moves more sophisticated for short range, which will require a faster reaction. The student will know strikes for all directions, with answers to aggression to middle range, and at the end of this phase; he will have the first face-to-face combat contacts.

Green Belt
In the first three stages, the student learned releases and attacks, and in this, he will learn faster and objective defenses to all kinds of attacks. The student will need to go back to practice all the moves he learned until then and execute them with the maximum of efficiency. The fitness exercises have the difficulty increased and will have a great need for the speed on the moves.

Blue Belt
In this phase, the student needs to show speed, coordination and explosion power. In the blue belt, the student will face for the first time defenses against weapons, and firearms. He gets into the second part, when practicing face-to-face combat, with or without weapons and objects.

Brown/Black Belt
In these phases, the student will demonstrate a complete understanding of all techniques of the other pervious levels with consternation on exercises against 2, 3, or more attackers. The student will acquire the first basic knowledge of military style face-to-face combat.


Krav Maga Level Classes
Although the curriculum set forth by Krav Maga is logically organized by way of a progressive belt testing (level) system, the promulgation and distribution of belts is certainly not the goal of the system. Instead, the most important goal of Krav Maga is to help you develop the ability to quickly and efficiently defend against any conceivable threat to you, a friend, or a family member. With that, Krav Maga groups its students in level classes usually ranging from level 1 to level 4 that equal belt levels. Level 1 Classes are typically consisting of students in the first few belt levels and its focus is on core Krav Maga moves and defenses. Heavy emphasis is placed on developing proper Krav Maga techniques. This includes fighting stances, punches, kicks, punch defenses, knee strikes, and basic self-defense moves. As the student advances to higher belt levels, levels 2-4, quickly builds to include additional punch combinations, kicks, kick defenses, self-defense techniques, and weapon defenses.

Nadam se da znate engleski. Ako ne, nek vam neki drug sto zna prevede. Pozdrav.
 
Ne znam da li se to moze nazvati sparing,posto nije ciklicna radnja...radi se o efikasnom odbijanju napada od sebe ili drugog lica i povlacenja(to je bar sto se tice KM za civile…imas policijsku,vojnu,za obavljanje poslova obezbedjenja…),znaci nemas neku konstantnu razmenu udaraca....ne znam kako to najbolje da ti objasnim. Tezi se sto realnijim situacijama,napadi sa svih strana i uglova;hladnim oruzjem itd. U principu,za trening ti treba suspensor,stitnik za zube,ponekad za podlaktice i telo-toliko o realnosti:o) Mislim da je najbolje da odgledas trening,nisam bas obavesten o svemu,to je samo deo...ono sto smo do sada radili. Ako si iz BG, imas sutra trening (utorak 18:00) u prostorijama karate kluba Kinder,a adresu nadji na netu…
Pozz
 

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