Deca u Srbiji odrastaju na mesnim preradjevinama i brzoj hrani !

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Six-month-old Caleb Moorhead died from a vitamin B12 deficiency, caused by his mother's strict vegan diet which was free of meat, dairy products and fish.
He was being breastfed.
His parents refused to seek medical help for the problem.
Vegan Society Coordinator Sandra Murray says veganism is growing and people need to know the facts. She would like to see a pamphlet produced about veganism, particularly aimed at pregnant women and mothers.
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/child_abuse.html

 

[đavolčić]

nekad je bitnije sta ne jedete nego sta jedete a meso je danas sigurno hrana koju treba izbegavati ne samo zbog sebe nego i zbog buducih generacija

Ljudi su vijekovima odrastali i na mesu. Svijet zbog toga nije propao.

 

[buudala]

BABY DEATH BY VEGANISM

6 week old Atlanta baby dies of starvation in 2004 - the parents convicted of murder

The New York Times
Nina Planck
May 21, 2007

WHEN Crown Shakur died of starvation, he was 6 weeks old and weighed 3.5 pounds. His vegan parents, who fed him mainly soy milk and apple juice, were convicted in Atlanta recently of murder, involuntary manslaughter and cruelty.
This particular calamity — at least the third such conviction of vegan parents in four years — may be largely due to ignorance. But it should prompt frank discussion about nutrition.
I was once a vegan. But well before I became pregnant, I concluded that a vegan pregnancy was irresponsible. You cannot create and nourish a robust baby merely on foods from plants.
Indigenous cuisines offer clues about what humans, naturally omnivorous, need to survive, reproduce and grow: traditional vegetarian diets, as in India, invariably include dairy and eggs for complete protein, essential fats and vitamins. There are no vegan societies for a simple reason: a vegan diet is not adequate in the long run.

 

[november child]

Sad si i pedijatar-nutricionista? Pa postavih ti link gde te koleginica demantuje.

A ima ih i jos toliko koji demantuju i tebe i te linkove.

..niko ti ne brani da probash na svom detetu..
..svi treba da imaju pravo na informisan izbor..

 

[gost 16798]

Zato treba da jedemo tabletice i da budemo srecni.

ne nego treba da jedemo 100 zivotinja godisnje dok 3/4 planete gladuje... ova planeta nije predvidjena da izdrzi alavost tolikog broja ljudi...izgleda da oni koji vladaju svetom na to i racunaju i traze nacine da broj stanovnika smanje posto ne mogu da ih urazume... mislis li da ces biti medju onih milion povlascenih koliko prema njihovim proracunima treba da naseljava ovu planetu s obzirom na resurse

 

[buudala]

The parents of a nine-month-old girl who died after being fed a fruit-based diet have been spared a jail sentence.

Areni Manuelyan died of a chest infection, brought on by malnutrition in July 2000 weighing just eleven and a half pounds, six pounds less than she should have. At her post mortem she was found to be markedly thin, dehydrated and to have severe pneumonia - all of which could be linked to malnutrition. At their trial, her parents, Garabet and Hazmik Manuelyan, both 45, pleaded guilty to child cruelty.

That would normally have resulted in a prison sentence. But at the Old Bailey on Friday, Judge David Paget said what had happened to the family was punishment enough.

The Armenian couple, from Staines, Surrey, described as "loving but misguided" in court, were placed under a community rehabilitation order for three years. Mrs Manuelyan still sleeps on the blanket that last held Areni.

She was described by Linda Strudwick who was defending her as "a mother who cared passionately for her children. Perhaps she cared too much."

The couple's two other children have been taken into care.

Judge Paget said: "This is a wholly exceptional and tragic case.

"You have been punished and will continue to be punished by the consequences of your actions."

 

[đavolčić]

ne nego treba da jedemo 100 zivotinja godisnje dok 3/4 planete gladuje... ova planeta nije predvidjena da izdrzi alavost tolikog broja ljudi...izgleda da oni koji vladaju svetom na to i racunaju i traze nacine da broj stanovnika smanje posto ne mogu da ih urazume... mislis li da ces biti medju onih milion povlascenih koliko prema njihovim proracunima treba da naseljava ovu planetu s obzirom na resurse

Idi to pa reci SAD-u,Velikoj Britaniji i sličnima. Srbija nikog ne ugrožava. Založi se za prestanak ratova,ulaganja u medicinu,navodnavanje,izgradnju škola a ne za vojne budžete.

 

[buudala]

ne nego treba da jedemo 100 zivotinja godisnje dok 3/4 planete gladuje... ova planeta nije predvidjena da izdrzi alavost tolikog broja ljudi...izgleda da oni koji vladaju svetom na to i racunaju i traze nacine da broj stanovnika smanje posto ne mogu da ih urazume... mislis li da ces biti medju onih milion povlascenih koliko prema njihovim proracunima treba da naseljava ovu planetu s obzirom na resurse

Gluperde koje ugroze zdravlje i sebi i svojoj deci zato što slušaju druge gluperde na kraju budu kažnjeni i više nego što zaista treba.

Ceo život provedu sa činjenicom da su zbog sopstvene gluposti ubili sopstvenu decu.

http://articles.cnn.com/2003-03-24/justice/ctv.swinton_1_vegan-malnutrition-silva-swinton?_s=PM:LAW

 

[gost 16798]

Idi to pa reci SAD-u,Velikoj Britaniji i sličnima. Srbija nikog ne ugrožava. Založi se za prestanak ratova,ulaganja u medicinu,navodnavanje,izgradnju škola a ne za vojne budžete.

vegetarijanci nikoga ne ugrozavaju....kad su im hrana i voda ugrozeni ljudi se pretvaraju u zivotinje...ne mozemo da zivimo izolovani od sveta kakav god da je

 

[đavolčić]

vegetarijanci nikoga ne ugrozavaju....kad su im hrana i voda ugrozeni ljudi se pretvaraju u zivotinje...ne mozemo da zivimo izolovani od sveta kakav god da je

Šta je to ugroženo SAD-u u Libiji,Iraku,Avganistanu,Siriji...

 

[gost 16798]

Šta je to ugroženo SAD-u u Libiji,Iraku,Avganistanu,Siriji...

standard u koji spada i mogucnost da pojedu 100 zivotinja godisnje dok na drugoj strani ljudi umiru od gladi...zato mi nije ni jasno zasto napadate vegetarijance kojima je to vise nego jasno

 

[buudala]

vegetarijanci nikoga ne ugrozavaju....kad su im hrana i voda ugrozeni ljudi se pretvaraju u zivotinje...ne mozemo da zivimo izolovani od sveta kakav god da je

Ugrožavaju decu, sopstvenu i tuđu sumanutim idejama o ishrani.

On April 23, 2005, Blair Parker called 911 because his 3-year-old daughter seemed to be having a seizure.

Doctors in the emergency room found that the girl was emaciated - she weighed just 13 pounds - and they asked to examine Parker's other two children.

His 11-year-old daughter was the size of a 5-year-old, and his 9-year-old son was the size of a 3-year-old. All of the children had been fed a diet that Parker and his wife misguidedly believed was a proper vegan diet, meaning that they eschewed all meat and fish and even dairy products.

Parker, 38, of Scottsdale, and his wife were arrested and criminally charged.



Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/07/04/20080704parker0704.html#ixzz1mwQTR900

 

[MilgredBulf]

Ono sto svaki covek treba da ima su MISICI, ono cega treba da ima bas koliko treba je VODA, ono sto ne treba da ima je SALO!!!
Misici su gradjeni od proteina koji se nalaze u MESU!!!!
I jos jednom cu reci VOCE U PRETERANIM KOLICINAMA GOJI!!!

 

[gost 16798]

Ugrožavaju decu, sopstvenu i tuđu sumanutim idejama o ishrani.

On April 23, 2005, Blair Parker called 911 because his 3-year-old daughter seemed to be having a seizure.

Doctors in the emergency room found that the girl was emaciated - she weighed just 13 pounds - and they asked to examine Parker's other two children.

His 11-year-old daughter was the size of a 5-year-old, and his 9-year-old son was the size of a 3-year-old. All of the children had been fed a diet that Parker and his wife misguidedly believed was a proper vegan diet, meaning that they eschewed all meat and fish and even dairy products.

Parker, 38, of Scottsdale, and his wife were arrested and criminally charged.



Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/07/04/20080704parker0704.html#ixzz1mwQTR900

to su budale naravno da je sisarima potrebno mleko sisara pa i macka usvoji stenad ako ostanu bez majke inace ne bi prezivela...mislim da ni krave nemaju nista protiv da se hranimo njihovim mlekom ali meso nije nesto bez cega ne bi mogli da zivimo

 

[đavolčić]

standard u koji spada i mogucnost da pojedu 100 zivotinja godisnje dok na drugoj strani ljudi umiru od gladi...zato mi nije ni jasno zasto napadate vegetarijance kojima je to vise nego jasno

Postavljač teme radi u firmi koja ubija ljude širom svijeta. Pa sad vidi da li više čovječanstvo ugrožava on ili ja koji nikad nisam uzeo lovački nož u ruke a ne nešto drugo.

 

[MilgredBulf]

to su budale naravno da je sisarima potrebno mleko sisara pa i macka usvoji stenad ako ostanu bez majke inace ne bi prezivela...mislim da ni krave nemaju nista protiv da se hranimo njihovim mlekom ali meso nije nesto bez cega ne bi mogli da zivimo

Jel tebi jasno koliko ti gluposti lupas?
Sta si ti procitala u zivotu od strucne literature da ja sa tobom diskutujem da li je meso neophodno ili nije?

 

[buudala]

Postavljač teme radi u firmi koja ubija ljude širom svijeta. Pa sad vidi da li više čovječanstvo ugrožava on ili ja koji nikad nisam uzeo lovački nož u ruke a ne nešto drugo.

Poso je poso.
Mora neko i to da radi.

Nemam ništa protiv tog što on radi jer je moguće biti častan vojnik pa i kad si plaćeni vojnik.


Imam samo protiv tog što veganizam predstavlja kao zdravu ishranu a on to nije

 

[gost 16798]

Jel tebi jasno koliko ti gluposti lupas?
Sta si ti procitala u zivotu od strucne literature da ja sa tobom diskutujem da li je meso neophodno ili nije?

pa dobro strucnjace znas li ti da na ovoj planeti ima veliki broj ljudi koji iz verskih ili nekih drugih razloga ne jedu meso generacijama i da im nista ne fali nego su zdraviji od onih koji jedu meso + rak je kod njih nepoznata bolest...sta pise u tim tvojim knjigama ne znam i ne zanima me
posto nastupas kao da su pisane u kamenu

 

[Lexa]

standard u koji spada i mogucnost da pojedu 100 zivotinja godisnje dok na drugoj strani ljudi umiru od gladi...zato mi nije ni jasno zasto napadate vegetarijance kojima je to vise nego jasno

Andrea, reci tom istom što umire od gladi da bude vegan, molim te ne treba valjda samo debeli ameri.

 

[gost 16798]

Andrea, reci tom istom što umire od gladi da bude vegan, molim te ne treba valjda samo debeli ameri.

pa debeli ameri hoce da se ugledaju na njih posto su culi da ce ih prezderavanje ubiti

 

[buudala]

pa dobro strucnjace znas li ti da na ovoj planeti ima veliki broj ljudi koji iz verskih ili nekih drugih razloga ne jedu meso generacijama i da im nista ne fali nego su zdraviji od onih koji jedu meso + rak je kod njih nepoznata bolest...sta pise u tim tvojim knjigama ne znam i ne zanima me
posto nastupas kao da su pisane u kamenu

To te neko slago.

Ne postoji nijedan narod koji ne jede meso.

 

[Lexa]

pa debeli ameri hoce da se ugledaju na njih posto su culi da ce ih prezderavanje ubiti

Ne razumem gde si baš našla vezu između mesa i prežderavanja... ko se prežderavao mesom prežderavaće se lebom posle. Kad izvagaš kalorije, nije meso baš toliko ni jako..... ulje, masti i semena su druga priča.

 

[Lexa]

Ja sam se zblanula kad sam videla koliko kalorija ima kikiriki

 

[gost 16798]

Ne razumem gde si baš našla vezu između mesa i prežderavanja... ko se prežderavao mesom prežderavaće se lebom posle. Kad izvagaš kalorije, nije meso baš toliko ni jako..... ulje, masti i semena su druga priča.

brojna istrazivanja su dokazala vezu izmedju karcinoma i zivotinjskih proizvoda, posebno zasicenih zivotinjskih masti, zivotinjskih proteina i insulinskog faktora rasta...zasicene masti koce imuni sistem i sadrze prekomerne kalorije sto u oba slucaja izaziva rast svih celija pa i celija raka...prema tim istrazivanjima zivotinjski proteini stvaraju kiselu okolinu u kojoj tumori bujaju

 

[Lexa]

Ma nisam te pitala za tumore nego za prežderavanje i gojaznost.