Etnološke sličnosti i razlike Srba sa drugim narodima

Ahil71:

Da li su Pelasti u stvari Belasti? (imamo potvrđenu promenu b/p)
Da li su Seri i Beli, sjajni i beli dve različite populacije?
R1a i I2a?
Da dodam da je galataj, mlečno belo.
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In Aeschylus's play, The Suppliants, the Danaids fleeing from Egypt seek asylum from King Pelasgus of Argos, which he says is on the Strymon including Perrhaebia in the north, the Thessalian Dodona and the slopes of the Pindus mountains on the west and the shores of the sea on the east;[20] that is, a territory including but somewhat larger than classical Pelasgiotis. The southern boundary is not mentioned; however, Apis is said to have come to Argos from Naupactus "across" (peras),[21] implying that Argos includes all of east Greece from the north of Thessaly to the Peloponnesian Argos, where the Danaids are probably to be conceived as having landed. He claims to rule the Pelasgians and to be the "child of Palaichthon (or 'ancient earth') whom the earth brought forth".
The Danaids call the country the "Apian hills" and claim that it understands the karbana audan[22] (accusative case, and in the Dorian dialect), which many translate as "barbarian speech" but Karba (where the Karbanoi live) is in fact a non-Greek word. They claim to descend from ancestors in ancient Argos even though they are of a "dark race" (melanthes ... genos).[23] Pelasgus admits that the land was once called Apia but compares them to the women of Libya and Egypt and wants to know how they can be from Argos on which they cite descent from Io.[24]
In a lost play by Aeschylus, Danaan Women, he defines the original homeland of the Pelasgians as the region around Mycenae.[25]

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He states that the Pelasgians of Athens were called "Cranai"[44] and that the Pelasgian population among the Ionians of the Peloponnesus were the "Aegialian Pelasgians".[45] Moreover, Herodotus mentions that the Aeolians, according to the Hellenes, were known anciently as "Pelasgians".[46]

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They were sometimes represented as mere gusts of wind, at other times were personified as winged men, and at still other times were depicted as horses kept in the stables of the storm god Aeolus, who provided Odysseus with the Anemoi in the Odyssey. The Spartans were reported to sacrifice a horse to the winds on Mount Taygetus.[1] Astraeus, the astrological deity sometimes associated with Aeolus, and Eos, the goddess of the dawn, were the parents of the Anemoi, according to the Greek poet Hesiod.

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Ahil71:

Pelasti se kite perjem, za razliku od Šardana, koji imaju rogove i sunčev disk na šlemu.
http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/sea.htm
Pogledajte prilog 323872
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/06/sea-peoples-invade-11921190-bc.html
"The Labu are characterized by a number of features when they are depicted in Egyptian reliefs, such as fair skin, red hair, and blue eyes. They also wore ornamental cloaks, had one lock of hair, and were tattooed on their arms and legs. Some of these characteristics the Labu also shared with the Meshwesh, but unlike the Meshwesh the Labu wore kilts instead of loincloths."
Ovo bi moralo da isključi poreklo naoroda Labu i Meshwesh, iz Azije, ali i vezu sa kasnijim Grcima.
Meshwesh su zanimljivi zbog futrola do kolena...
Ima to neke veze sa Tribalima.

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Albion (Ancient Greek: Ἀλβίων) is the oldest known name of the island of Great Britain. Today, it is still sometimes used poetically to refer to the island. The name for Scotland in the Celtic languages is related to Albion: Alba in Scottish Gaelic, Albain in Irish, Nalbin in Manx and Alban in Welsh, Cornish and Breton. These names were later Latinised as Albania and Anglicised as Albany, which were once alternative names for Scotland.

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Ahil71:

I Labu su Beli. Laba, Elba.
Labu bi trebalo da su dali ime za Libiju, kako su Grci zvali Afriku.

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Ahil71:

Јесу и Бели (као и Хрвати), то нам Порфитогенит сведочи....

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In Celtic mythology, Bel, Belenos (also Belenus) was a deity worshipped in Gaul, Cisalpine Gaul, and Celtic areas of Austria, Britain and Spain. He is particularly associated with Cornwall, West Cornwall being anciently called Belerion, the place of Bel. He was the Celtic sun god and had shrines from Aquileia on the Adriatic to Kirkby Lonsdale in England.[1][2]
The etymology of the name is unclear. Suggestions include "shining one,"[3] "the bright one"[4] and "henbane god".[5]
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Images of Belenus sometimes show him to be accompanied by a female, thought to be the Gaulish deity Belisama.[4]
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An epithet of Belenus may have been Vindonnus.
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Over a long period the Slavs settled beside the Danube, where the Hungarian and Bulgarian
lands now lie. From among these Slavs, parties scattered throughout the country and were known
by appropriate names, according to the places where they settled. Thus some came and settled by
the river Morava, and were named Moravians, while others were called Czechs. Among these
same Slavs are included the White Croats, the Serbs, and the Carinthians. For when the Vlakhs
attacked the Danubian Slavs, settled among them, and did them violence, the latter came and
made their homes by the Vistula, and were then called Lyakhs.

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Mojari or Khussa is a style of South Asian handcrafted footwear produced in North India and Pakistan.
Mojari are made by artisans mostly using vegetable-tanned leather. The uppers are made of one piece of leather or textile embroidered and embellished with brass nails, cowry shells, mirrors, bells and ceramic beads. Even the bonding from the upper to the sole is done by cotton thread that is not only eco-friendly but also enmeshes the leather fibers with great strength. Some product range also uses bright and ornate threads.[1]
In ancient times these were worn by multitude and royalty.
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Mojari is referred to a man's closed shoe with an extended curled toe, while as juttis have flat fronts. In juttis, rear is normally covered but mojari have an open look from behind. Produced mainly in Multan, a city in Pakistani Punjab, these juttis were flat soled and there were no left-right distinctions between them.

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The Kushans were one of five branches of the Yuezhi confederation,[5][6] a possibly Iranian[7] or Tocharian,[8] Indo-European[9] nomadic people who had migrated from the Tarim Basin and settled in ancient Bactria.[6]
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During the 1st and early 2nd centuries CE, the Kushans expanded across the northern parts of the Indian subcontinent at least as far as Saketa and Sarnath near Varanasi (Benares), where inscriptions have been found dating to the era of the Kushan emperor Kanishka, which began about 127 CE

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According to the research of Henry Walter Bellew[3] and Ibbetson Denzil,[4] the Afghan genealogist took the term Saraban for their ancestors from Suryabans which was the distinctive race title of the Rajput people among whom the Afghans had become absorbed, and it was also a title held in high respect among the people of the country at that time. Further, as it included a large and important population, it was a convenient term to adopt as an ancestral title.[5]
The name Saraban is evidently a corrupted, or perhaps a natural variant form of Suryabans the solar or royal race now represented in India by the Rajput. Similarly the names of the Saraban's sons Khrishyiin and Sharjyun, and of his grandson Sheorani, are clearly changed forms of the common Rajput and Brahman proper names Krishan, Surjan, and Shivaram or Sheoram [6]

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Rajput (from Sanskrit raja-putra, "son of a king"[1]) is a member of one of the patrilineal clans of western, central, northern India and some parts of Pakistan. They claim to be descendants of ruling Hindu warrior classes of North India.[2]

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Suryavansha or Suryavam(n)sham or Solar Dynasty was a dynasty of ancient India. The term Suryavanshi refers to a person belonging to Suryvansha dynasty.
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The early Suryavanshis considered the sun god (Surya, Aditya or Arka) as their kuladevata and mainly practised sun-worship.

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Ahil71:

У "Tabula Peutingeriana" северно од Дунава су Венди Сармати.

Wendi je Keltski naziv za Bele. To ne znači da su oni Kelti, niti da su oni sebe tako zvali.
A i sami Kelti su hetrogena populacija. U sukobu Belog i Berna (vrani?), pobedio je Bern.

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truthSeeker:

3) Srbi i Hrvati se u beloj Hrvatskoj i beloj Srbiji zovu beli jer žive na onoj strani svoje matične grupe (pra-Slovena) odakle dolazi noć tj. na zapadu
alternativno "belo" su Kelti
(od
Germanic *walhiska- "Celtic, Gallo-Roman, Romance
Old English descendant wælisc (= Modern English Welsh)
Old French, the words "gualeis", "galois", "walois" (Northern French phonetics keeping /w/)
Proto-Germanic *Walha-
Volcae - keltsko pleme
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Celts
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a bela Srbija i bela Hrvatska su keltska Srbija i keltska Hrvatska
Kelti bi mogli da objasne I2a Din...
ipak zajednički ne PIE leksikon Srba i Kelta je po svemu sudeći minimalan naročito s obzirom na tako brojnu I2a Din grupu...

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Æsir is the plural of áss, óss "god" (gen. āsir) which is attested in other Germanic languages, e.g., Old English ōs (gen. pl. ēsa) and Gothic (as reported by Jordanes) anses "half-gods". These all stem from Proto-Germanic *ansis ~ ansuz, which itself comes from Proto-Indo-European *h₂énsus (gen. h₂n̥sóus) "life force" (cf. Avestan aŋhū "lord; lifetime", ahura "godhood", Sanskrit ásu "life force",[3] ásura "god" (< *h₂n̥suró)). It is widely accepted that this word is further related to *h₂ens- "to engender" (cf. Hittite hass- "to procreate, give birth", Tocharian B ās- "to produce").[4]

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In Norse religion, Asgard (Old Norse: ''Ásgarðr''; "Enclosure of the Æsir"[1]) is one of the Nine Worlds and home to the Æsir tribe of gods. It is surrounded by an incomplete wall attributed to a Hrimthurs riding the stallion Svaðilfari, according to Gylfaginning. Odin and his wife, Frigg, are the rulers of Asgard.

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In the Prologue Snorri offers an euhemerized and Christian-influenced interpretation of the myths and tales of his forefathers. As-gard, he conjectures, is the home of the Æsir (singular Ás) in As-ia, making a folk etymological connection between the three "As-"; that is, the Æsir were "men of Asia", not gods, who moved from Asia to the north and some of which intermarried with the peoples already there. Snorri's interpretation of the 13th century foreshadows 20th-century views of Indo-European migration from the east.
Snorri further writes that Asgard is a land more fertile than any other, blessed also with a great abundance of gold and jewels. Correspondingly, the Æsir excelled beyond all other people in strength, beauty and talent.
Snorri proposes the location of Asgard as Troy, the center of the earth. About it were 12 kingdoms and 12 chiefs. One of them, Múnón, married Priam's daughter, Tróán, and had by her a son, Trór, to be pronounced Thor in Old Norse. The latter was raised in Thrace. At age 12 he was whiter than ivory, had hair lighter than gold, and could lift 10 bear skins at once. He explored far and wide. His son, Odin, led a migration to the northern lands, where they took wives and had many children, populating the entire north with Aesir. One of the sons of Odin was Yngvi, founder of the Ynglingar, an early royal family of Sweden.

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(736) The country of the Assyrians borders on Persis and Susiana. This name1 is given to Babylonia and to much of the country all round, which latter, in part, is also called Aturia, in which are Ninus, Apolloniatis, the Elymaei, the Paraetacae, the Chalonitis in the neighbourhood of Mt. Zagrus, the plains in the neighbourhood of Ninus, and also Dolomenê and Calachenê and Chazenê and Adiabenê, and the tribes of Mesopotamia in the neighbourhood of the Gordyaeans, and the Mygdonians in the neighbourhood of Nisibis, as far as the Zeugma2 of the Euphrates, as also much of the country on the far side of the Euphrates, which is occupied by Arabians, and those people who in a special sense of the term are called by the men of to‑day Syrians, 737 who extend as far as the Cilicians and the Phoenicians and the Judaeans and the sea that is opposite the Aegyptian Sea and the Gulf of Issus.

2 It seems that the name of the Syrians extended not only from Babylonia to the Gulf of Issus, but also in ancient times from this gulf to the Euxine. At any rate, both tribes of the Cappadocians, both those near the Taurus and those near the Pontus, have to the present time been called "White p195Syrians,"3 as though some Syrians were black, these being the Syrians who live outside the Taurus; and when I say "Taurus," I am extending the name as far as the Amanus. When those who have written histories of the Syrian empire say that the Medes were overthrown by the Persians and the Syrians by the Medes, they mean by the Syrians no other people than those who built the royal palaces in Babylon and Ninus; and, of these Syrians, Ninus was the man who founded Ninus in Aturia, and his wife, Semiramis, was the woman who succeeded her husband and founded Babylon. These two gained the mastery of Asia; and as for Semiramis, apart from her works at Babylon, many others are also to be seen throughout almost the whole of that continent, I mean the mounds called the Mounds of Semiramis, and walls, and the construction of fortifications with aqueducts therein, and of reservoirs for drinking-water, and of ladder-like ascents of mountains, and of channels in rivers and lakes, and of roads and bridges. And they left to their successors their empire until the time of the empires of Sardanapalus and Arbaces. But later the empire passed over to the Medes.

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Aššur is the name of the city, of the land ruled by the city, and of its tutelary deity. At a late date it appears in Assyrian literature in the forms An-sar, An-sar (ki), which form was presumably read Assur. The name of the deity is written A-šur or Aš-sùr, and in Neo-assyrian often shortened to Aš.
In the Creation tablet, the heavens personified collectively were indicated by this term An-sar, "host of heaven," in contradistinction to the earth, Ki-sar, "host of earth."[citation needed]
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In around 2000 BC, Puzur-Ashur I founded a new dynasty, and his successors such as Ilushuma, Erishum I and Sargon I left inscriptions regarding the building of temples to Ashur, Adad and Ishtar in the city.Assur developed rapidly into a centre for trade, and trade routes led from the city to Anatolia, where merchants from Assur established trading colonies. These Assyrian colonies in Asia Minor were called karum, and traded mostly with tin and wool (see Kültepe). In the city of Assur, the first great temples to the city god Assur and the weather god Adad were erected. The first fortifications were also began in this period.

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A caravanserai was a roadside inn where travelers could rest and recover from the day's journey. Caravanserais supported the flow of commerce, information, and people across the network of trade routes covering Asia, North Africa, and southeastern Europe, especially along the Silk Road.
These were found frequently along the Persian Empire's Royal Road, a 2,500-kilometre (1,600 mi) long ancient highway that stretched from Sardis to Susa according to Herodotus: "Now the true account of the road in question is the following: Royal stations exist along its whole length, and excellent caravansaries; and throughout, it traverses an inhabited tract, and is free from danger."[1]
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The word is also rendered as caravansara or caravansary. The Persian word kārvānsarā is a compound word combining kārvān (caravan) with sara (palace, building with enclosed courts), to which the Turkish suffix -yi is added. Here "caravan" means a group of traders, pilgrims, or other travelers, engaged in long distance travel.
A number of place-names based on the word sarai have grown up: Mughal Serai, Sarai Alamgir and Sarai Rohilia for example, though many places (for example, a great many of those listed in the disambiguation page) are also based on the original meaning of "palace".

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truthSeeker:

ne znam...
ne radi se kod Srba o "beli" nego o "shining ones"
sad ćemo da vidimo ko su sve "shining ones"
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da sumiram
beli su
Likijci ( indo-evropljani)
Aorsi ( indo-evropljani i oblast Jermenije)
Venedi ( Kelti i oblast Jermenije)
Albion (Škoti) i Albanci (vezano za keltsko pleme Albanoi, dok imena Shqipëri i Arbereš/Arvaniti imaju drugo poreklo)


"shining ones" su
Srbi (Vavilon)
Sordisci ( Kelti)
Alani ( indo-evropljani , Kelti)
Irci, Iranci, Skiti, Germani, Skandinavci, Šveđani ( Indo-evropljani)

ovde treba dodati i Dance i Danajce (boginja Danu je "shining one" boginja zore)
kao i Seriane/Zeriuani/Seres /Sirace (boginja Zore)

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dok su Srbi starije ime i vezano za Vavilon dakle južno od jezera Van
Serijani/Seres/Sart je ime koje je verovatno vezano izvorno za Siriju i Liban...
zatim za Kapadokiju kao leuco (beli) Sirijci..pri čemu susedna Likija može biti od "leuco"
a susedni Veneti (nekad živeli (i) u Paflagoniji su opet "beli" ali i "vetrovi"
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to su dva talasa....prvo ekspanzija iranaca kao PIE ljudi..zatim ekspanzija iranizovanih ljudi sa bliskog istoka, iz male Azije i Evrope?
moguće je i da su oba talasa bili R1a ljudi...

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In Old Norse, áss (or ǫ́ss, ás, plural æsir; feminine ásynja, plural ásynjur) is the term denoting a member of the principal pantheon in the indigenous Germanic religion known as Norse paganism. This pantheon includes Odin, Frigg, Thor, Baldr and Týr. The second pantheon comprises the Vanir. In Norse mythology, the two pantheons wage the Æsir-Vanir War, which results in a unified pantheon.

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truthSeeker:

s obzirom da je Sordisci = "shining ones" Alani = "shining ones" Serbi = "shining ones" ... i da niz drugih PIE naroda (Irci, Iranci, Skiti, Germani, Skandinavci, Šveđani...) imaju ime koje znači "shining ones"

zanimljivo je ispitati ko su PIE ljudi...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86sir

odavde naslućujemo da je reč "shining ones" verovatno bila sinonim za boga / bogove...
Aesir je množina od oss /ass...pa su Serijani i Jazyges/ Jaši /Asi / Oseti isto ime od koga se na dva načina ( u dva jezika?) gradi množina



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asgard

u Asgard uočavamo upotrebu PIE reči od koje garden kod engleza a grad kod Slovena... ovde se radi o božijem gradu...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asgard

zemlja plodnija nego ijedna druga... u Aziji...
ovo ukazuje na međurečje - oblast između Tigra i Eufrata...

Aesir bi mogli da budu Asirci. a Asgard bi bio grad Ašur...
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Strabo nam svedoči da od Asiraca imamo imena Sirijci i beli Sirijci (za oba plemena Kapadokije)..

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dakle Seres /Sart /Serian i As/Os/Oseti/Alani i deo religije i kulture PIE naroda potiče od drevnih Asiraca koji su kako Strabo kaže ovladali Azijom...

As - > Azija
As, Oss -> Asi /jaši / Oseti (Alani)
As, Oss -> Asyria, Aesir -> Sirijci i beli Sirijci kao i Seriani / Sciri / Sordisci/ Seres / Sart / Sarve, Sirbi
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The word east comes from Middle English est, from Old English ēast, which itself comes from the Proto-Germanic *aus-to- or *austra- "east, toward the sunrise", from Proto-Indo-European *aus- "to shine," or "dawn".[1] This is similar to Old High German *ōstar "to the east", Latin aurora "dawn", and Greek ēōs or heōs.[2] Ēostre, a Germanic goddess of dawn, might have been a personification of both dawn and the cardinal points.

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Ēostre or Ostara (Northumbrian Old English: Ēostre; West Saxon Old English: Ēastre; Old High German: *Ôstara) is a goddess in Germanic paganism who, by way of the Germanic month bearing her name (Northumbrian: Ēosturmōnaþ; West Saxon: Ēastermōnaþ; Old High German: Ôstarmânoth), is the namesake of the festival of Easter.
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Ēostre derives from Proto-Germanic *Austrō, ultimately from a PIE root *h₂ewes- (→ *awes-), "to shine", and therefore closely related to a reconstructed name of *h₂ewsṓs, the dawn goddess, which would account for Greek "Eos", Roman "Aurora", and Indian "Ushas".[1] The modern English term "Easter" is the direct continuation of Old English Ēastre, whose role as a goddess is attested solely by Bede in the 8th century.[2] Ēostre is the Northumbrian form, while Ēastre is more common West Saxon.[3]

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In Norse mythology, Sif is a goddess associated with earth. Sif is attested in the Poetic Edda, compiled in the 13th century from earlier traditional sources, and the Prose Edda, written in the 13th century by Snorri Sturluson, and in the poetry of skalds. In both the Poetic Edda and the Prose Edda, Sif is the wife of the thunder god Thor and is known for her golden hair.
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The name Sif is the singular form of the plural Old Norse word sifjar. Sifjar only appears in singular form when referring to the goddess as a proper noun. Sifjar is cognate to the Old English sib (meaning "affinity, connection, by marriage") and in other Germanic languages: Gothic language sibja, Old High German sibba, and German sippe. Sifjar appears not only in ancient poetry and records of law, but also in compounds (byggja sifjar means "to marry").[1] Using this etymology, scholar John Lindow gives the meanings "in-law-relationship", scholar Andy Orchard provides "relation", and scholar Rudolf Simek gives "relation by marriage".[2]

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Živa, also Żiwia, Siva, Sieba or Razivia, was the Slavic goddess of life and fertility. She was worshipped throughout what is now Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia, and Germany (and especially the Elbe (Labe) river valley), before Christianity expanded into the area. Her name means "living, being, existing". Živa is mentioned in the Baptism on the Savica, an epic poem by the Slovene national poet France Prešeren.
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Gelmold names Ziva (Siwa) the main goddess of the Polabs. Dlugosh, speaking about Polish gods, writes: Zywye - Vita.

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n ancient Roman religion, Ceres (/ˈsɪəriːz/, Latin: Cerēs) was a goddess of agriculture, grain crops, fertility and motherly relationships.[1] She was originally the central deity in Rome's so-called plebeian or Aventine Triad, then was paired with her daughter Proserpina in what Romans described as "the Greek rites of Ceres". Her seven-day April festival of Cerealia included the popular Ludi Ceriales (Ceres' games). She was also honoured in the May lustration of fields at the Ambarvalia festival, at harvest-time, and during Roman marriages and funeral rites.
Ceres is the only one of Rome's many agricultural deities to be listed among the Di Consentes, Rome's equivalent to the Twelve Olympians of Greek mythology. The Romans saw her as the counterpart of the Greek goddess Demeter,[2] whose mythology was reinterpreted for Ceres in Roman art and literature.[1]

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In Norse mythology, Freyja (Old Norse the "Lady") is a goddess associated with love, sexuality, beauty, fertility, gold, seiðr, war, and death.
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Along with her brother Freyr (Old Norse the "Lord"), her father Njörðr, and her mother Nerthius, she is a member of the Vanir.
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Freyja has numerous names, including Gefn, Hörn, Mardöll, Sýr, Valfreyja, and Vanadís.
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The name Freyja is in fact a title meaning 'lady', from Proto-Germanic *fraw(j)ōn, cognate with, for example, Old Saxon frūa 'lady, mistress' and Old High German frouwa (compare modern German Frau 'lady').[1] The theonym Freyja is thus considered to have been an epithet in origin, replacing a personal name that is now unattested.[2] The connection with and possible earlier identification of Freyja with Frigg in the Proto-Germanic period (Frigg and Freyja origin hypothesis) is a matter of scholarly debate.[2]
Like the name of the group of gods to which Freyja belongs, the Vanir, the name Freyja is not attested outside of Scandinavia, as opposed to the name of the goddess Frigg, who is attested as a goddess common among the Germanic peoples, and whose name is reconstructed as Proto-Germanic *Frijjō.
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Outside of theories connecting Freyja with the goddess Frigg (see etymology section above), some scholars, such Hilda Ellis Davidson and Britt-Mari Näsström, have theorized that other goddesses in Norse mythology, such as Gefjon, Gerðr, and Skaði, may be forms of Freyja in different roles and/or ages.[48]
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Frigg (sometimes anglicized as Frigga) is a major goddess in Norse paganism, a subset of Germanic paganism. She is said to be the wife of Odin, and is the "foremost among the goddesses" and the queen of Asgard.[1] Frigg appears primarily in Norse mythological stories as a wife and a mother. She is also described as having the power of prophecy yet she does not reveal what she knows.[2] Frigg is described as the only one other than Odin who is permitted to sit on his high seat Hlidskjalf and look out over the universe. The English term Friday derives from the Anglo-Saxon name for Frigg, Frige.[3]

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In Northern Europe, Easter imagery often involves hares and rabbits. C....", late 19th-century scholar Charles Isaac Elton theorizes a connection between these customs and the worship of Ēostre.[18]
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Some scholars have linked customs and imagery involving hares to Ēostre and the Norse goddess Freyja.

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In Norse mythology, Iðunn is a goddess associated with apples and youth. Iðunn is attested in the Poetic Edda, compiled in the 13th century from earlier traditional sources, and the Prose Edda, written in the 13th century by Snorri Sturluson. In both sources, she is described as the wife of the skaldic god Bragi, and in the Prose Edda, also as a keeper of apples and granter of eternal youthfulness.
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Iðunn is introduced in the Prose Edda in section 26 of the Prose Edda book Gylfaginning. Here, Iðunn is described as Bragi's wife and keeper of an eski (a wooden box made of ash wood and often used for carrying personal possessions) within which she keeps apples. The apples are bitten into by the gods when they begin to grow old and they then become young again, which is described as occurring up until Ragnarök.
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The name Iðunn has been variously explained as meaning "ever young", "rejuvenator", or "the rejuvenating one".[1] As the modern English alphabet lacks the eth (ð) character,Iðunn is sometimes anglicized as Idun, Idunn or Ithun.[2] An -a suffix is sometimes applied to denote femininity, resulting in forms such as Iduna and Idunna.[3]

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truthSeeker:

postavlja se pitanje ko je boginja Serpanit (Zerbanitu) / Danu / zvezda Danica /Zor(j)a / Asura /Aušrine /Ašer /Ištar /Astarte / Ostara u nordijskoj mitologiji?

2)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freyja


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frigg

po svoj prilici Frigg je Freyja

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In Celtic religion and Irish mythology, Brigit or Brighid (exalted one[1]) is the daughter of the Dagda and one of the Tuatha Dé Danann. She was the wife of Bres of the Fomorians, with whom she had a son, Ruadán.
She had two sisters, also named Brighid, and is considered a classic Celtic Triple Goddess.[dubious – discuss][2]
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Brigid is considered the patroness of poetry, smithing, medicine, arts and crafts, cattle and other livestock, and spring.[5] Along with these attributes, she also is associated with fire. Any type of fire symbolism, including light, candles, illumination, heat, warmth or sunrises also belong to this goddess. Arrows, bells, thresholds and doorways are also included in Brigid symbolism. Several animal correspondences are also tied to Brigid, particularly ewe, dairy cows, bees, owls and serpents.

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In Irish mythology, Danu ([ˈdanu]; modern Irish Dana [ˈd̪ˠanˠə]) is the mother goddess of the Tuatha Dé Danann (Old Irish: "The peoples of the goddess Danu").
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The Rigvedic Danu was the mother of a race of Asuras called the Danavas. A shortened form of the name appears to have been Dā. The Greek goddess Demeter (Da-mater), is also associated with water several times. [2] Julius Pokorny reconstructs the name from the PIE root da:-: "flow, river", da:-nu: "any moving liquid, drops", da: navo "people living by the river, Skyth. nomadic people (in Rigveda water-demons), fem.Da:nu primordial goddess , in Greek Danaoi (Danaans, Greek tribe, Egypt. Danuna). [3] [4]
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Danu may be connected with Brigit, daughter of Kildare and of learning, culture and skills, as both of them have been described as daughters of the Dagda[9] at one point and also have been described as mothers of Brian, Iuchar, and Iucharba.[10][11]

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The Dagda (Proto-Celtic: *Dagodeiwos, Old Irish: Dag Dia, Modern Irish: Daghdha) is an important god of Irish mythology. The Dagda is a father-figure (he is also known as Eochaid(h) Ollathair, or "All-father") and a protector of the tribe.
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The name Dagda may ultimately be derived from the Proto-Indo-European *Dhagho-deiwos "shining divinity", the first element being cognate with the English word "day", and possibly a byword for a deification of a notion such as "splendour". This etymology would tie in well with Dagda's mythic association with the sun and the earth, with kingship and excellence in general. *Dhago-deiwos would have been inherited into Proto-Celtic as *Dago-deiwos, thereby punning with the Proto-Celtic word *dago-s "good".
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The Dagda was also the father of Bodb Dearg, Cermait, Midir, Aine, and Brigit. He was the brother or father of Oghma, who is probably related to the Gaulish god Ogmios; Ogmios, depicted as an old man with a club, is one of the closest Gaulish parallels to the Dagda. Another Gaulish god who may be related to the Dagda is Sucellus, the striker, depicted with a hammer and cup.

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In Greek mythology, the Hesperides (/hɛˈspɛrɪdiːz/; Ancient Greek: Ἑσπερίδες) are nymphs who tend a blissful garden in a far western corner of the world, located near the neighbourhood of Cyrene[1] or Benghazi[2] in Libya or the Atlas mountains in North Africa at the edge of the encircling Oceanus, the world-ocean.[3] The nymphs are said to be the daughters of Hesperus.[4]
According to the Sicilian Greek poet Stesichorus, in his poem the "Song of Geryon", and the Greek geographer Strabo, in his book Geographika (volume III), the garden of the Hesperides is located in Tartessos, a location placed in the south of the Iberian peninsula.
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The name means originating from Hesperus, the evening star Venus, equivalent to vesper.
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They are sometimes called the Western Maidens, the Daughters of Evening or Erythrai, and the "Sunset Goddesses", designations all apparently tied to their imagined location in the distant west. Hesperis is appropriately the personification of the evening (as Eos is of the dawn) and the Evening Star is Hesperus. In addition to their tending of the garden, they were said to have taken great pleasure in singing.
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The Garden of the Hesperides is Hera's orchard in the west, where either a single tree or a grove of immortality-giving golden apples grew. The apples were planted from the fruited branches that Gaia gave to Hera as a wedding gift when Hera accepted Zeus. The Hesperides were given the task of tending to the grove, but occasionally plucked from it themselves. Not trusting them, Hera also placed in the garden a never-sleeping, hundred-headed dragon named Ladon as an additional safeguard.

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In Slavic mythology the Zorya (alternately, Zora, Zarya, Zory, Zore = "dawn"; Zvezda, Zwezda, Danica = "star") are the two guardian goddesses, known as the Auroras. ....
The Zorya represent the Morning Star and Evening Star.[1]
The Zorya serve the sun god Dažbog, who in some myths is described as their father. Zorya Utrennyaya, the Morning Star, opens the gates to his palace every morning for the sun-chariot's departure. At dusk, Zorya Vechernyaya—the Evening Star—closes the palace gates once more after his return.
The home of the Zorya was sometimes said to be on Bouyan (or Buyan), an oceanic island paradise where the Sun dwelt along with his attendants, the North, West and East winds.[2]

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If the deceased successfully passed these unpleasant demons, he or she would reach the Weighing of the Heart. In this ritual, the heart of the deceased was weighed by Anubis, using a feather, representing Ma'at, the goddess of truth and justice. The heart would become out of balance because of failure to follow Ma'at and any hearts heavier or lighter than her feather were rejected and eaten by the Ammit, the Devourer of Souls. Those souls that passed the test would be allowed to travel toward the paradise of Aaru.

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Aaru usually was placed in the east, where the Sun rises, and is described as eternal reed fields, very much like those of the earthly Nile delta: an ideal hunting and fishing ground, and hence, those deceased who, after judgment, were allowed to reside there, were often called the eternally living. More precisely, Aaru was envisaged as a series of islands, covered in "fields of rushes" (Sekhet Aaru), Aaru being the Egyptian word for rushes. The part where Osiris later dwelt was sometimes known as the "field of offerings", Sekhet Hetepet in Egyptian.

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In 1995, one of the oldest hominids, representing a possible link between Homo erectus and an archaic Homo sapiens was found in Buya, Eritrea by Italian scientists dated to over 1 million years old (the oldest of its kind), providing a link between hominids and the earliest humans.[1] It is also believed that Eritrea was on the route out of Africa that was used by early man to colonize the rest of the Old World.[2]

The Eritrean Research Project Team composed of Eritrean, Canadian, American, Dutch and French scientists, discovered in 1999 a site with stone and obsidian tools dated to over 125 000 years old (from the paleolithic) era near the Bay of Zula south of Massawa along the Red Sea coast. The tools are believed to have been used by early humans to harvest marine resources like clams and oysters.[3] It is believed that the Eritrean section of the Danakil Depression was a major player in terms of human evolution and may "document the entire evolution of Homo erectus up to the transition to anatomically modern humans."[4]

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Eritrean history is home to some of the oldest civilizations on the continent. Together with northern Somalia, Djibouti, and the Red Sea coast of Sudan, Eritrea is considered the most likely location of the land known to the ancient Egyptians as Punt (or "Ta Netjeru," meaning god's land), whose first mention dates to the 25th century BC.[5] The ancient Puntites were a nation of people that had close relations with Pharaonic Egypt during the times of Pharaoh Sahure and Queen Hatshepsut.

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Battlecat:

Right znaci pravo i ispravno.

From Middle English right (“right”), from Old English riht, reht (“right”), from Proto-Germanic *rehtaz (“right, direct”), from Proto-Indo-European *h₃reǵtós (“having moved in a straight line”), from Proto-Indo-European *h₃reǵ- (“to straighten, direct”). An Indo-European past participle, it became a Germanic adjective which has been used also as a noun since the common Germanic period. Cognate with West Frisian rjocht, Dutch recht, German recht/Recht, Swedish rätt and rät, Danish ret, Norwegian rett, and Icelandic rétt. The Indo-European root is also the source of Greek ὀρεκτός, Latin rectus, Albanian drejt and the Sanskrit ऋत (ṛtá).

To sto je i strana sa tim imenom ima veze sa nekim ubedjenjima i verovanjima sa stranama sveta... Ne znam bas tacno. BIlo bi zanimljivo da neko nadje objasnjenje.

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truthSeeker:

Besides the name most amenable to reconstruction, *h₂ewsṓs, a number of epithets of the dawn goddess may be reconstructed with some certainty. Among these is *wenos- (also an s-stem), whence Sanskrit vanas "loveliness; desire", used of Uṣas in the Rigveda, and the Latin name Venus and the Norse Vanir. The name indicates that the goddess was imagined as a beautiful nubile woman, who also had aspects of a love goddess.[citation needed]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hausos

ako je boginja Zore takođe *wenos
Veneti i Serijani su možda dva imena za iste ljude?
ako znamo da su Veneti živeli nekad davno u Paflagoniji, a Serijani od Taurusa tj. od Kapadokije do Tibeta... onda su ovo možda bili isti ljudi...
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The parallel with the contest between Marduk and Tiamat, in which winds (sâru) controlled by Marduk burst Tiamat open, has been noted by many informed readers;[8] barley-cake plays the same role as the wind[9]

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The name is derived from Ancient Greek: ἀναιμία anaimia, meaning lack of blood, from ἀν- an-, "not" + αἷμα haima, "blood".

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truthSeeker:

i još jedan lingvistički kuriozitet
kod Mađara - "Szarvas" = jelen, biće sa rogovima, a "szerb" je srbin
Shardana su deo "morskih ljudi"...iza njih ostaje toponim Serbonis na sinajskom poluostrvu...
a poznati su po tome što su (kao verovatno vikinzi mnogo kasnije) nosili šlemove sa rogovima....

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Chapter 123 of the Shiji (whose author, Sima Qian, died c. 90 BC) reports:
Yancai lies some 2,000 li [832 km][9] northwest of Kangju. The people are nomads and their customs are generally similar to those of the people of Kangju. The country has over 100,000 archer warriors, and borders on a great shoreless lake.[10]
The mouth of the Syr Darya or Jaxartes River, which emptied into the Aral Sea was approximately 850 km northwest of the oasis of Tashkent which was an important centre of the Kangju confederacy. This provides remarkable confirmation of the account in the Shiji.
The Later Han Dynasty Chinese chronicle, the Hou Hanshu, 88 (covering the period 25–220 and completed in the 5th century), mentioned a report that the steppe land Yancai was now known as Alanliao (阿蘭聊):
The kingdom of Yancai [literally "Vast Steppe"] has changed its name to the kingdom of Alanliao. They occupy the country and the towns. It is a dependency of Kangju (the Chu, Talas, and middle Jaxartes basins). The climate is mild. Wax trees, pines, and ‘white grass’ [aconite] are plentiful. Their way of life and dress are the same as those of Kangju.[11]
The 3rd century Weilüe states:
Then there is the kingdom of Liu, the kingdom of Yan [to the north of Yancai], and the kingdom of Yancai [between the Black and Caspian Seas], which is also called Alan. They all have the same way of life as those of Kangju. To the west, they border Da Qin [Roman territory], to the southeast they border Kangju [the Chu, Talas, and middle Jaxartes basins]. These kingdoms have large numbers of their famous sables. They raise cattle and move about in search of water and fodder. They are close to a large shoreless lake. Previously they were vassals of Kangju [the Chu, Talas, and middle Jaxartes basins]. Now they are no longer vassals.[12]
By the beginning of the 1st century, the Alans had occupied lands in the northeast Azov Sea area, along the Don and by the 2nd century had amalgamated or joined with the Yancai of the early Chinese records to extend their control all the way along the trade routes from the Black Sea to the north of the Caspian and Aral seas. The written sources suggest that from the end of the 1st century to the second half of the 4th century the Alans had supremacy over the tribal union and created a powerful confederation of Sarmatian tribes.

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The Sherden sword, it has been suggested by archaeologists since James Henry Breasted, may have developed from an enlargement of European daggers, and been associated with the exploitation of Bohemian tin.
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The earliest mention of the people called Srdn-w, more usually called Sherden or Shardana, occurs as the Akkadian "se-er-ta-an-nu" in the Amarna Letters correspondence from Rib-Hadda, mayor (hazannu) of Byblos,[2]

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Several different types of possible Sherden's helmets are attested in the Egyptian reliefs in Luxor, Abu Simbel and Medinet Habu. These helmets seem to have had only horns when the Sherden are fighting against the Egyptians, being the central disk not added until after the Sea Peopleswere defeated or recruit in the Pharaoh's army and therefore presumably connected with the Egyptian Sun God Re. These type of helmets show similarity with some Bronze Age/Early Iron Age Helmet representations attested in Aegean Area, Anatolia, Central/North Europe and Italy.

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The Assuwa league was a confederation of states in western Anatolia, defeated by the Hittites under an earlier Tudhaliya I around 1400 BC. The league formed to oppose the Hittite empire. The list of its members contains 22 names, including [...]uqqa, Warsiya, Taruisa, Wilusiya and Karkija (Caria).
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Some of the identifications of these names are disputed. Wilusiya is commonly identified with Ilion (Troy), and Taruisa with the surrounding Troad, and Warsiya may be associated with Lukka (Lycia). However, identification of [..]uqqa with later-attested Lukka (Lycia) is problematic, because that would put the Assuwa league both north and south of Arzawa in southwestern Anatolia. Assuwa appears to lie north of Arzawa, covering the northwestern corner of Anatolia. Homer in the Iliad seems to refer to two Lycias; in 2.876-77, 5.479 Sarpedon is a leader of "distant Lycia" while in 2.824ff. 5.105 Pandarus is another leader of Lycians from around Mount Ida near Troy, so that Lukka vs. [...]uqqa may find its explanation in these terms. However, the Assuwa League included Karkija (Caria), in southwest Anatolia, south of even the proposed Lukka (Lycia). So, since also Assuwa was only a confederate league, it could easily have included a wide-ranging array of anti-Hittite minor powers, across the region.
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Assuwa has been suggested as the origin for the name of the continent Asia (Bossert, 1946).

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The Orontes (/əˈrɒntiz/; Ὀρόντης) or Asi (Arabic: العاصي‎, ‘Āṣī; Turkish: Asi) is a river of Lebanon, Syria and Turkey.
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The name Orontes is the Hellenized form of the Iranian name, Haeravanta, meaning "that of grandeur."

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These seas contain not so very many islands. The most famous among them is Meninx1, twenty-five miles in length and twenty-two in breadth: by Eratosthenes it is called Lotophagitis. This island has two towns, Meninx on the side which faces Africa, and Troas on the other; it is situate off the promontory which lies on the right-hand side of the Lesser Syrtis, at a distance of a mile and a half. One hundred miles from this island, and opposite the promontory that lies on the left, is the free island of Cercina2, with a city of the same name. It is twenty-five miles long, and half that breadth at the place where it is the widest, but not more than five miles across at the extremity: the diminutive island of Cercinitis3, which looks towards Carthage, is united to it by a bridge. At a distance of nearly fifty miles from these is the island of Lopadusa4, six miles in length; and beyond it Gaulos and Galata, the soil of which kills the scorpion, that noxious reptile of Africa. It is also said that the scorpion will not live at Clypea; opposite to which place lies the island of Cosyra5, with a town of the same name. Opposite to the Gulf of Carthage are the two islands known as the Ægimuri6; the Altars7, which are rather rocks than islands, lie more between Sicily and Sardinia. There are some authors who state that these rocks were once inhabited, but that they have gradually subsided in the sea.

1 Now called Zerbi and Jerba, derived from the name of Girba, which even in the time of Aurelius Victor, had supplanted that of Meninx. It is situate in the Gulf of Cabes. According to Solinus, C. Marius lay in concealment here for some time. It was famous for its purple. See B. ix. c. 60.

2 Now called Kerkéni, Karkenah, or Ramlah.

3 Now Gherba. It was reckoned as a mere appendage to Cercina, to which it was joined by a mole, and which is found often mentioned in history.

4 Still called Lampedusa, off the coast of Tunis. This island, with Gaulos and Galata, has been already mentioned among the islands off Sicily; see B. iii. c. 14.

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Syrtis Major (or the Great[er] Syrtis) is the Latin name for the Gulf of Sidra, a body of water in the Mediterranean Sea on the northern coast of Libya
Syrtis Minor (or the Lesser Syrtis) is the Latin name for the Gulf of Gabès, a body of water in the Mediterranean Sea on the eastern coast of Tunisia

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The wealthy have the following funeral practices. First they lay out the dead for three days, and after killing all kinds of victims and making lamentation, they feast. After that they do away with the body either by fire or else by burial in the earth, and when they have built a barrow, they initiate all kinds of contests, in which the greatest prizes are offered for the hardest type of single combat. Such are the Thracian funeral rites.
As for the region which lies north of this country, none can tell with certainty what men dwell there, but what lies beyond the Ister is a desolate and infinitely large tract of land. I can learn of no men dwelling beyond the Ister save certain that are called Sigynnae and wear Median dress. [2] Their horses are said to be covered all over with shaggy hair1 five fingers' breadth long, and to be small, blunt-nosed, and unable to bear men on their backs, but very swift when yoked to chariots. It is for this reason that driving chariots is the usage of the country. These men's borders, it is said, reach almost as far as the Eneti on the Adriatic Sea. [3] They call themselves colonists from Media. How this has come about I myself cannot understand, but all is possible in the long passage of time. However that may be, we know that the Ligyes who dwell inland of Massalia use the word “sigynnae” for hucksters, and the Cyprians use it for spears.

1 Strabo says much the same of the Sigynni, according to him a Caucasian tribe.

According to the Thracians, all the land beyond the Ister is full of bees, and that by reason of these none can travel there. This, to my mind, is not a credible tale, for those creatures are ill able to bear cold. It appears to me rather that it is by reason of the cold that the northern lands are not inhabited. Such, then, are the stories about this region. Whatever the truth may be, Megabazus made its coastal area subject to the Persians.

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Others have proposed a Germanic etymology *gēr-manni, "spear men", cf. Middle Dutch ghere, Old High German Ger, Old Norse geirr.[19] However, the form gēr (from PGmc *gaizaz) seems far too advanced phonetically for the 1st century, has a long vowel where a short one is expected, and the Latin form has a simplex -n-, not a geminate.

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Alani su bili dobri jahači i živeli su polunomadskim stilom života. Imali su stada krava, koza, ovaca i konja i boravili su u jurtama ili na kolima. Od hrane rado su jeli mlečne proizvode (jogurt i kefir) i meso.
Tipična za alansku umetnost je grnčarija sa slikama životinja u skitsko-sarmatskom stilu, koje kasnije nalazimo i među Germanima, posebno Gotima, ali i u merovinškoj Franačkoj.
Alanski ratnici su imali lukove iste kao i Skiti, sarmatski dugi dvosekli mač, kamu i koplje. Za razliku od ostalih sarmatskih plemena Alani su najradije u boj išli kao laki kopljanici na konjima. Omiljena taktika im je bila, slično kao i kod drugih stepskih naroda, da odglume bekstvo, pa da zatim iznenada krenu u kontranapad. Za razliku od Sarmata kod Alana ne nailazimo na žene ratnike.

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Ammianus Marcellinus considered the Alans to be the former Massagetae: "the Alani, who were formerly called the Massagetae"[13] and stated "Nearly all the Alani are men of great stature and beauty; their hair is somewhat yellow, their eyes are terribly fierce".[14]
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Late Sarmatian sites were first identified with the historical Alans by P.D. Rau (1927). Based on the archaeological material, they were one of the Iranian-speaking nomadic tribes that began to enter the Sarmatian area between the middle of the 1st and the 2nd century.
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The Alans were known to the Chinese by that name, in the ages immediately preceding and following the Christian era, as dwelling near the Aral, in which original position they are believed to have been closely akin to, if not identical with, the famous Massagetæ. Hereabouts also Ptolemy (vi, 14) appears to place the Alani-Scythæ, and Alanæan Mountains. From about 40 B.C. the emigrations of the Alans seem to have been directed westward to the Lower Don; here they are placed in the first century by Josephus and by the Armenian writers; and hence they are found issuing in the third century to ravage the rich provinces of Asia Minor. In 376 the deluge of the Huns on its westward course came upon the Alans and overwhelmed them. Great numbers of Alans are found to have joined the conquerors on their further progress, and large bodies of Alans afterwards swelled the waves of Goths, Vandals, and Sueves, that rolled across the Western Empire.

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According to Tacitus, around the north of the Danubian Marcomanni and Quadi, "dwelling in forests and on mountain-tops", live the Marsigni, and Buri, who "in their language and manner of life, resemble the Suevi".[26] (Living partly subject to the Quadi are the Gotini and Osi, who Tacitus says speak respectively Gaulish and Pannonian, and are therefore not Germans.)

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truthSeeker:

szarva = rog
szarvas = jelen

kod Finaca
sarvi = rog


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sada vidimo da su Alani i/ ili Srbi bili susedi Ugro-Fincima i Mongolima pa samim tim mogu imati veze sa rečima koje ovi upotrebljavaju...

Mongoli koriste ime "sar" za mesec... mesečevo pleme zovu sartulli
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sart

a Ugro-Finci reč "szarva" za rogove


ovo može zaista imati veze sa susednim narodom...
jedna mogućnost za reči mesec i rogovi imaju veze sa imenom susednog naroda je da je taj susedni narod u početku nosio šlemove sa rogovima / polumesecom.....
Shardana od kojih ime jezera Serbonis i za koje znamo da su nosili šlemove sa rogovima i polumesecom bi mogli da budu preteča ovih Alana / Sarve/Sirbi ljudi


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shardana

na akadskom Sherdana su Se-er-ta-an-nu što je reč čija je osnova Sart kao kod Sart ljudi tj. Serijana

Sherdana imaju na šlemu rogove koje neko može da vidi i kao polumesec...

http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/sea.htm

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During the High Middle Ages, fantastical headgear became popular among knights, in particular for tournaments[9][original research?] The achievements or representations of some coats of arms, for example that of Lazar Hrebeljanovic, depict them, but they rarely appear as charges depicted within the arms themselves.

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Contrary to popular opinion, there is no verifiable evidence that the Viking warriors originating in Scandinavia ever wore horned helmets, and indeed the only authenticated Viking helmet ever discovered was notably hornless. It is hypothesized that the Viking depiction of horned helmets may have stemmed from a popular image of Thor, wearing a helmet adorned with wings that resemble horns.[8]
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Ceremonial use of horned helmets during the Germanic Iron Age persisted until the 7th century and can thus be argued to possibly have overlapped with the early Viking Age. However, there is no evidence that horned helmets were ever worn in battle at any point during the Viking Age.[10]
Nevertheless, popular culture came to associate horned helmets strongly with Viking warriors.[10] The popular association probably arose in 19th century Scandinavian Romanticism, possibly by misattribution of Bronze Age images such as the Grevensvænge figurines.[citation needed] More concrete evidence suggests those depictions were inspired by the work of Carl Emil Doepler, who in 1876 created horned helmets for use in the first Bayreuth Festival production of Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen.[10]

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European Bronze Age and Iron Age horned helmets are known from a number of depictions, but few actual finds. Headpieces mounted with animal horns or replicas of them also occur, as in the Mesolithic "frontlets" from Starr Carr. These were probably used for religious ceremonial or ritual purposes.
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Two bronze statuettes dated to the early 12th century BC, the so-called "horned god" and "ingot god", depicting deities wearing horned helmets, found in Enkomi, Cyprus.
A pair of bronze horned helmets from the later Bronze Age (dating to ca. 1100–900 BC) were found near Veksø, Denmark in 1942.[1] Another early find is the Grevensvænge hoard from Zealand, Denmark (ca. 800–500 BC, now partially lost).
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Indo-Persian warriors often wore horned or spiked helmets in battle to intimidate their enemies. These conical "devil masks" were made from plated mail, and usually had eyes engraved on them.

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truthSeeker:

šta mogu da izvorno znače 4 srpnja na srpskom grbu?
verujem da su u pitanju vojnici / čuvari / ljudi...

zamislite da gledate ljude odozgo...ako hoćete da predstavite stranu na koju su okrenuti najlakše je da ih crtate kao polumesec...

osim toga za pra-Srbe (koji po svemu sudeći sa modernim Srbima imaju zajedničko ime i ne puno više) polumesec (srpanj) je bitan simbolički element...jer predstavlja boginju Serpanit / Zerbanitu a samim tim i ljude koji je slave.... otud su za Mongole Sart ljudi "mesečev klan"...

no da pogledamo neke primere upotrebe srpnja u heraldici...

grb kralja Ella kralja južnog Sussex-a

grb engleske plemićke porodice Goddard

ima moto "Cervus non Servus" (jelen a ne sluga)

na ovim grbovima takođe srpanj po svemu sudeći predstavlja ljude u vojnoj formaciji....na donjem grbu jasan je i smer njihovog kretanja

grb lordova Kinnaird

grb porodice Cormier koja zna da poreklo vodi od "Cymric Celts of the ancient region known as Armorica"

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truthSeeker:

Sardanes - ples Katalonije (neki smatraju da je Katalonija u originalu Got-Alanija.) izvorno se pojavio u oblasti Emporda -

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