Rukoblud

sinezavisi s kim picas i kojim razlogom....nije isto kad pjses/pricas sa sestrok drugaricom muzem deckom ili
sa prijateljem muskim(tu mi jeok samo onako naucno :rotf: mada reLalno ja ne znam za te primere da je neka riba pricala sadrugom o tome,sao nagadjam,a opet i tu je malo glupo ako nema poentu:npr da trazi neki savet zbog devojke al sad bas lupam ajd da ne lupam vise:lol:)
ili sanekim strancem..

Dobro, to jeste, drugacije je ako pricas sa nekim sa kime si blizak, u prijateljskim odnosima i sa nekim tamo levim. Ja znam lika koji je tako otvoren da kazem, nema veze sto niste nesto bliski, covek o pornicima ladno, prepricava, ovo-ono, neke njegove avanture i sta ti ja znam, jednostavno los utisak odaje na prvu loptu.

Znam samo da se neke devojke sablaznjavaju na ove koje se "bave sobom" (otvoreno, tj. pricaju o tome), a te koje se sablaznjavaju pa i nisu bas "najpostenije" sto bi rekao nas narod. Muskarcima su takve devojke jako zanimljive :per: (pa mozda im je to i neka laka fora za privacenje muske paznje), mada ne verujem da im ostavljaju utisak "e ova je dobra da radja decu, da se osnuje porodica sa njom" ako ona prica koje kategorije pornica gleda onako otvoreno kao sto prica koje je cipele kupila danas. Vise je, "ova je neka napaljena, zeljna, cim ona toliko pornica gleda (uz propratnu radnju), treba njoj musko jedno, prava stvar a ne ti pornici :per:".

Mada opet, na kraju krajeva ne mora to nista da znaci, neke zene gledaju pornice (nemoj da se lazemo :mrgreen:), neke citaju erotiku, neke vole lajt erotiku, verovatno dobar deo se i samozadovoljava, svi smo mi ljudi, sa istim ljudskim, tj. seksualnim potrebama. Sad sto je neko otvoren, ne mora nuzno da znaci da je prometan ko naplatna rampa, razvratan, pacenik/ca, mada sumnjam da su te otvorene osobe neka nevinasca, mada tu sigurno postoji ceo spektar ljudi.
 
pitanje je više za muške smatram pošto računam da muškarci više bludniče rukom no žene, al eto ako sam u krivu mošte i vi žene...
znam da nije baš često jer smo mi ovde svi odreda jelda jebbači al eto da pitam ipak...
koliko vi to često upražnjavate ?
i baj d vej zašto je gore navedena radnja i dalje tabu tema...kako među populusom tako i međ ovde nama jel...?
blagodarim

Pa ono šta znam, jeste donekle tabu tema, ali realno šta koga briga drkam li i koliko, i na koji način bi mene obogatila informacija koliko neki drugi muškarac upražnjava tu drevnu veštinu :lol:
 
Pa ono šta znam, jeste donekle tabu tema, ali realno šta koga briga drkam li i koliko, i na koji način bi mene obogatila informacija koliko neki drugi muškarac upražnjava tu drevnu veštinu :lol:

Pa ono u tom slucaju sta koga briga u opste sta ko voli u sexu i kako to radi. Onda i poenta ovog podforuma se gubi. Sta koga briga bilo kog pola kako ko razmislja i uziva i sta vec u Ljubavi i Sexu.

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U stvari, ovde su svi ne da bi saznali i pricali o sexu i ljubavi, vec da nahvataju drk materijal od koleginica (prim prev). A "koleginice" su ovde da bi se zalili kako su momci napaljeni.
 
ljudi koji masturbiraju, ne poštuju sebe, i samopouzdanje im je nula,ili na jako niskom nivou( kako kome), i jedni idrugi su preplašeni...a muškarci postaju pravi miševi...kojim uspješno žene manipulišu...a žene postaju histerične i agresivne...
jednom riječju, teški luzeri...jer ovdje se bolje razumje engleski...
 
ljudi koji masturbiraju, ne poštuju sebe, i samopouzdanje im je nula,ili na jako niskom nivou( kako kome), i jedni idrugi su preplašeni...a muškarci postaju pravi miševi...kojim uspješno žene manipulišu...a žene postaju histerične i agresivne...
jednom riječju, teški luzeri...jer ovdje se bolje razumje engleski...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/201303/hysteria-and-the-strange-history-vibrators
:lol:
e moj sime..meni uvek zabavno sa tobom...

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i zena postaje "histerica" kad ne nezadovolj(e)na a ne obrnuto...:lol:
 
samo se ti tješi, seksualni ovisniku...nešto ne vidim tu histeriju u ženskim manastirima, od monahinja nema smirenijih žena...:)))
a ovu budalaštinu što si okačila, ne bih ni komentarisao, to blage veze nema sa mojim postom...trpanje vibratorima, i ostale boleštine koje dolaze sa zapada...
 
evo malo iz linka da se obrazujete:lol:
Michael Castleman M.A. Michael Castleman M.A.
All About Sex
"Hysteria" and the Strange History of Vibrators
The invention of the vibrator had nothing to do with women's pleasure.
Posted Mar 01, 2013




Mention vibrators, and most people immediately think of women’s sexual pleasure. And no wonder: An estimated one-third of adult American women now own at least one. Clitoral stimulation with vibrators produces orgasms reliably even in women who have difficulty experiencing them in other ways. And women who use vibrators consistently report sexual enhancement in both solo and partner sex.

But ironically, women's sexual pleasure was the furthest thing from the minds of the male doctors who invented vibrators almost two centuries ago. They were interested in a labor-saving device to spare their hands the fatigue they developed giving handjobs to a steady stream of 19th century ladies who suffered from “hysteria,” a vaguely defined ailment easily recognizable today as sexual frustration. Therein hangs a strange tale that provides quirky insights into both the history of sex toys, and cultural notions about women’s sexuality.

Until the 20th century, American and European men—including physicians—believed that women did not experience sexual desire or pleasure. They believed that women were simply fleshy receptacles for male lust and that intercourse culminating in male ejaculation fulfilled women's erotic needs. Women were socialized to believe that “ladies” had no sex drive, and that duty required them to put up with sex in order to keep their husbands happy and have children.

Not surprisingly, these beliefs left an enormous number or women sexually frustrated. They complained to doctors of anxiety, sleeplessness, irritability, nervousness, erotic fantasies, feelings of heaviness in the lower abdomen, and wetness between the leg. This syndrome became known as “hysteria,” from the Greek for uterus.


Documented complaints of female hysteria date back to the 13th century. Doctors of that era understood that women had libidos and advised them to relieve their sexual frustration with dildos. In the 16th century, physicians told married hysterics to encourage their husbands’ lust. Unfortunately, that probably didn't help too many wives because modern sexuality research clearly shows that only about 25 percent of women experience orgasm consistently from intercourse. Three-quarters of women need direct clitoral stimulation, and most intercourse doesn’t supply much. For hysteria unrelieved by husbandly lust, and for widows, and single and unhappily married women, doctors advised horseback riding, which, for some, provided enough clitoral stimulation to trigger orgasm. But riding provided many women little relief, and by the 17th century, dildos were less of an option because the arbiters of decency had succeeded in demonizing masturbation as “self-abuse.”

Fortunately, a reliable, socially acceptable treatment appeared. Doctors or midwives applied vegetable oil to women’s genitals and then massaged them with one or two fingers inside and the heel of the hand pressing against the clitoris. With this type of massage, women had orgasms and experienced sudden, dramatic relief from hysteria. But doctors didn’t call women’s climaxes orgasms. They called them “paroxysms” because everyone knew that women were incapable of sexual feelings, so they could not possibly experience orgasm.

By the early 19th century, physician-assisted paroxysm was firmly entrenched in Europe and the U.S., and proved a financial godsend for many doctors. At the time, the public viewed physicians with tremendous distrust. Medicine was, at best, primitive. Most doctors had no scientific training. And their standard treatment, bleeding, killed more people than it helped. But thanks to genital massage, hysteria was one of the few conditions doctors could treat successfully, and it produced large numbers of grateful women who returned faithfully and regularly, eager to pay for additional treatment. For more on the 19th-century treatment of hysteria, read The Road to Wellville by T.C. Boyle or see the movie.

Unfortunately for doctors, hysteria treatment had a downside—achy, cramped fingers and hands from all that massage. In medical journals of the early 1800's, doctors lamented that treating hysterics taxed their physical endurance. Chronic hand fatigue meant that some doctors had trouble maintaining the treatment long enough to produce the desired (and lucrative) result.

Necessity being the mother of invention, physicians began experimenting with mechanical substitutes for their hands. They tried a number of genital massage contraptions, among them water-driven gadgets (the forerunners of today's shower massage devices), and pumping, steam-driven dildos. But the machines were cumbersome, messy, often unreliable, and sometimes dangerous.

Then in the late nineteenth century, electricity entered American homes, and the first electric appliances appeared: the electric fan, toaster, tea kettle, and sewing machine. In 1880, more than a decade before the invention of the electric iron and vacuum cleaner, an enterprising English physician, Dr. Joseph Mortimer Granville, patented the electromechanical vibrator.

Vibrators, both plug-in and later battery-powered, were immediate hits. They produced paroxysm quickly, safely, reliably, and as often as women desired. During the early 20th century, doctors lost their monopoly on hysteria treatment as women began buying the devices for themselves, thanks to advertisements in popular women’s magazines, among them: Needlecraft, Women's Home Companion, and the Sears & Roebuck Catalogue, that era’s Amazon.com.

However, to make vibrators’ socially acceptable, their real purpose was disguised. They were called “personal massagers” (and still are in some catalogues today). But discerning women and advertising copy writers knew very well what “massagers” were all about. One 1903 advertisement in the Sears Catalogue touted a popular massager as “a delightful companion … all the pleasures of youth … will throb within you....”

Electricity gave women home vibrators, but within a few decades, electricity almost took them away. Movies were invented in 1890 and by 1891, pornography was being filmed. During the 1920s, vibrators began showing up in stag films, which stripped the devices of their disguise and quickly made them social unacceptable. Vibrator advertisements disappeared from the consumer media, and well into the 1970’s vibrators were hard to find. That changed when feminism emerged righrt arount the time that Hitachi introduced its Magic Wand, still the world’s most popular vibrator.

Today, dozens of models are available: plug-in, battery powered, waterproof, large, small, and tiny travel models (bullets). One-third of adult American women own at least one vibrator, many own several, and about half of vibrator owners use them in partner sex. And just think, we owe it all to physician fatigue.

Source:

Maines, Rachel. The Technology of Orgasm: “Hysteria,"” The Vibrator, and Women's Sexual Satisfaction. Johns Hopkins University Press, 1999.
 
samo se ti tješi, seksualni ovisniku...nešto ne vidim tu histeriju u ženskim manastirima, od monahinja nema smirenijih žena...:)))
a ovu budalaštinu što si okačila, ne bih ni komentarisao, to blage veze nema sa mojim postom...trpanje vibratorima, i ostale boleštine koje dolaze sa zapada...

prvo zamansiti se nema veze sa zivotom(tj uzeo si primer za koji mogu referat da pisem i koji nema veze sa temom)...drugo ti si rekao da od samozadovoljavanja zene postaju histericne...ja reko da budu srecnije ono manje stresa..ko seks recimo...sluzi za razmnozavanje al pruza zadovoljstvo to zadovoljstvo je tu da bi povecalo sansu za seksom a time i porodom..ti bi da negiras majku prirodu pa to nije lepo sime nikakao buahaahahaha :rotf:
 
fino te obrazuje ta američka duhovna spodoba..da se trpate vibratorima...jadna vam majka...z:cry:
samo ti ovisnice traži izgovore u budalaštinama...ali zapamti šta ti Šime kaže, ništa dobro ti to neće donijeti...

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pa vidim koliko si ti srećna, od tebe histeričnija forumašica ne postoji...:)))

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plus, pišeš nepovezano..to me jako zabrinjava..ovo ti bratski kažem..:))
 
prvo sinko otkud ti znas sta ja radim i ko me obrazuje i u sta verujem..drugo bog vidi samo dobra dela:rotf: al ozbiljno sad ne brini druze ja imam cistu dusu ;):**

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:rotf:
 
ljudi koji masturbiraju, ne poštuju sebe, i samopouzdanje im je nula,ili na jako niskom nivou( kako kome), i jedni idrugi su preplašeni...a muškarci postaju pravi miševi...kojim uspješno žene manipulišu...a žene postaju histerične i agresivne...
jednom riječju, teški luzeri...jer ovdje se bolje razumje engleski...
Obrnuto žena koja odlično poznaje sebe i šta je uzbudjuje zna i kako da uzbudi muškarca jer se ponaša sasvim drugačije od one koja nema slobodu ni sebe da dodirne a ne još i drugog.
 
Pa ono u tom slucaju sta koga briga u opste sta ko voli u sexu i kako to radi. Onda i poenta ovog podforuma se gubi. Sta koga briga bilo kog pola kako ko razmislja i uziva i sta vec u Ljubavi i Sexu.

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U stvari, ovde su svi ne da bi saznali i pricali o sexu i ljubavi, vec da nahvataju drk materijal od koleginica (prim prev). A "koleginice" su ovde da bi se zalili kako su momci napaljeni.

Ne znam, možda sam ja malo konzervativan, mada jesam za raspravu na svaku temu, ali nekako mi je iznošenje eksplicitnih i egzaktnih podataka na ovu temu u rangu sa objavljivanjem broja kreditne kartice sa sve skupa lib-om na ovakvom mestu ... ne znam, rekoh na početku, da sam možda veća konzerva nego što bi trebao biti ... a btw među nama, i 99,99% ovih koji će tako nešto objaviti 100% lažu :lol:
 
pitanje je više za muške smatram pošto računam da muškarci više bludniče rukom no žene, al eto ako sam u krivu mošte i vi žene...
znam da nije baš često jer smo mi ovde svi odreda jelda jebbači al eto da pitam ipak...
koliko vi to često upražnjavate ?
i baj d vej zašto je gore navedena radnja i dalje tabu tema...kako među populusom tako i međ ovde nama jel...?
blagodarim

... nekad prodje i desetak dana bez selfija, a nekad i cetiri puta u toku dana, sto bi se reklo, kako mi kad ide na ruku. :D

Malo sta sto je vezano za sex da nije tabu, tako da je u pitanju fenomen koji ima korijene u tzv moralnim normama utemeljenim od strane vjerskih zajednica
 
Ne znam, možda sam ja malo konzervativan, mada jesam za raspravu na svaku temu, ali nekako mi je iznošenje eksplicitnih i egzaktnih podataka na ovu temu u rangu sa objavljivanjem broja kreditne kartice sa sve skupa lib-om na ovakvom mestu ... ne znam, rekoh na početku, da sam možda veća konzerva nego što bi trebao biti ... a btw među nama, i 99,99% ovih koji će tako nešto objaviti 100% lažu :lol:

Ok razumem ako neko nece nesto jer je previse intimno. Sada prvi ne bih odgovarao na pitanje, koje su vam naj naj prljavije fantazije. I to bas zbog okruzenja. Ali masturbacija? Pa ko ima problem sa time, neka nacrta sumicu i neka se izgubi.

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I evo da odgovorim na pitanje, posto niko nece koliko vidim:

Nekada svaki dan, nekada i vise puta na dan, nekada pauziram nekoliko dana. Sve zavisi od obaveza, nivoa stresa i td.
Jer mi drk nije samo sexualni uzitak, vec i jedan od filtera.
 

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