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Ukraine to remove 10 Soviet-era monuments from Kiev streets

19:15 | 27/ 11/ 2008

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KIEV, November 27 (RIA Novosti) - Authorities in the Ukrainian capital of Kiev have decided to take down ten Soviet-era monuments, including eight statues of Vladimir Lenin, a municipal official said on Thursday.

However, Serhiy Rudik said that a monument to Lenin on Kiev's main street, Kreshchatik, would not be taken down as it had national significance and the decision to remove it could only be made by the government.

He also said that the removal of the monuments would be carried out within the framework of President Viktor Yushchenko's orders concerning the issue of the Stalin-era famine which devastated Ukraine in 1932-1933.

However, Rudik added that the monuments would not be destroyed but would be, "possibly put together somewhere in the same place where they can be visited."

The famine, known as the Holodomor in Ukraine, was caused by forced collectivization. Estimates as to the amount of victims in Ukraine vary greatly, with some 2 million being the lower end of the scale. British historian Robert Service has suggested that some 14 million people lost their lives.

Russia says the famine cannot be considered an act that targeted Ukrainians, as millions of people from different ethnic groups lost their lives at that time in vast territories in the North Caucasus, the Volga region, central Russia, Kazakhstan, west Siberia, and the south Urals.

Speaking at a ceremony to unveil a memorial in a village in western Ukraine, one of the areas hardest hit by the early 1930s famine, Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko said last week that "Ukraine does not blame any nation or state for the great famine." He said "the totalitarian Communist regime" was to blame for the Holodomor.copy paste Što nakon uklanjanja ruskih spomenika i kulture?Možda nakon kultorocida slijedi genocid nad ruskim žiteljima ili progon?:eek:
 
Rusi su budale, njima je komunizam isprao mozak. Oni brinu za yebene komunjarske spomenike, da sam na njihovom mestu porushio bi sve gradjevine u Rusiji izgradjene od 1917e do 1990te, i gradio sve ispochetka. 20 miliona Rusa je ostalo izvan Rusije, a sem Belorusije i Kazahstana, svugde se vrshi njihova asimilacija, narochito u Ukrajini i baltichkim zemljama. U Istochnoj Ukrajini i na Krimu Rusi chine vecinu, a njihova deca u shkolama uche ukrajinski.
 
Rusi su budale, njima je komunizam isprao mozak. Oni brinu za yebene komunjarske spomenike, da sam na njihovom mestu porushio bi sve gradjevine u Rusiji izgradjene od 1917e do 1990te, i gradio sve ispochetka. 20 miliona Rusa je ostalo izvan Rusije, a sem Belorusije i Kazahstana, svugde se vrshi njihova asimilacija, narochito u Ukrajini i baltichkim zemljama. U Istochnoj Ukrajini i na Krimu Rusi chine vecinu, a njihova deca u shkolama uche ukrajinski.
Srušio bi i onaj metro u Moskvi? :eek:
 
То нису руски, већ комуњарски споменици и такви треба да се руше...

Za razliku od nas koji kritikujemo sve svoje politicare, Rusi to ne rade. A zasto ? Zato sto svaki politcar na neki nacin simbolizuje svoju drzavu i pljujuci njega , pljujes po sopstvenoj drzavi i sopstvenoj istoriji. Svaki Rus zna da je Jeljcin bio djubre, ali mu Putin dize spomenik... Dok kod nas to neki ne ukapiraju kuburicemo sami sa sobom.
 
Recimo vracaju nemachko ime Sankt Peterburgu, posle 900 dana opsade istog.
. Njima su Nemci , ( to jest ujedinjena Evropa ) 41_45 ubili 29 miliona ljudi , od toga 29 miliona civila . Najveci deo je jednostavno pobijen u masakrima koje su napravili Litvanci, Ukrainci , Estonci , Finci, SS , pa i Hrvati , i Bosanski muslimani , a cak je bio i jedna siptarska jedinica.
Oni su dosli u Nemacku , i sta su uradili . Nista . Eno ttamo nemaca , zivih i zfravih . A mogli su mirne duse da ih potamane , u znak odmazde , i zdravo . E a oni isu . Verujem da ce za nasih zivota , " Berlin " jos jednom ici na Moskvu. da ce opet da marsiraju Ruskim stepama . Jer ako nije osvecen i adekvatno kaznjen zlocin se obavezno vraca , kao sto smo imali prilike da vidimo i sami .
 
. Njima su Nemci , ( to jest ujedinjena Evropa ) 41_45 ubili 29 miliona ljudi , od toga 29 miliona civila . Najveci deo je jednostavno pobijen u masakrima koje su napravili Litvanci, Ukrainci , Estonci , Finci, SS , pa i Hrvati , i Bosanski muslimani , a cak je bio i jedna siptarska jedinica.
Oni su dosli u Nemacku , i sta su uradili . Nista . Eno ttamo nemaca , zivih i zfravih . A mogli su mirne duse da ih potamane , u znak odmazde , i zdravo . E a oni isu . Verujem da ce za nasih zivota , " Berlin " jos jednom ici na Moskvu. da ce opet da marsiraju Ruskim stepama . Jer ako nije osvecen i adekvatno kaznjen zlocin se obavezno vraca , kao sto smo imali prilike da vidimo i sami .

Da Historija se ponavlja zamisli samo što bi sada europljani napravili od rusa da nemaju nuklearnog oružja.:think:
 
Da Historija se ponavlja zamisli samo što bi sada europljani napravili od rusa da nemaju nuklearnog oružja.:think:

Kad kazem Berlin , kazem simblicno , Ne mislim da ce sad grad sa sve zgradama..... ili Nemacka sama..... Nemacka sama nikada nije napala ni Rusiju , ni SSSR. Uvek je to bio neki Evropski savez . Savez zapadno-Evropskih zamalja , I meso iz zemalja oko Rusije , ili SSSR .
A za ovo drugo , znas kako kazu . Gde ima volje ima i nacina .
 
Poslednja izmena:
E svasta ces cuti na ovom forumu,ovako 5000 ustasa je bilo kod Staljingrada od kojih je 90% nasilno odvedeno.
To je bila cena koju je NDH placala za drzavu.Ostalo je zivi 187 tacno toliko medju njima i Marko Mesic kapetan kraljevske vojske a stric sadasnjeg Stipe Mesica.
Kazes Rusi nisu rokali svabe pa iz rokali i ubijali su ih po Nemackoj samo tako a Ameri su sve govorili gde su Nemci i da ih Rusi rokaju.
Na kraju nikad vise Nemci nece ici na Rusiju jer su dekadentni i od onolikog piva nema ko vise pusku uzeti
a ni Rusi isto tako.
 
Prvo 5 000 ustasa je sasvim dovoljno . S tim sto cu to da proverim. Koliko je tacno brojala Vrazja divizija . Na silu , pazi majku mu , a koliko je Slovenaca bilo tamo , da li znas . Slovenaca je bilo manje nego Hrvata . A i oni su bili .
Bilo je vise od 200 000 rumuna
Madjara je samo poginulo 200 000 , a bilo ih je vise , i tako dalje .
Litvanci, Ukrainci , Ma svi bre , cak i dobrovoljci iz Francuske . Zapravo iz cele evrope , nisu bili samo Srbi i Britanci , a prekticno svi ostali jesu .
Kazes rokali su Nemce . Pa u celom ratu je poginulo 9 miliona Nemaca. A sa druge strane 29 miliona rusa . A nemci su ti koji su zapoceli osvajacki rat . Rusi nisu ubili 29 liona Nemaca . Nemaca u Istocnoj nemackoj jos ima, zar ne . Nisu im vretili ravnom merom .
Kad kazem Berlin , to je sibolicki . Mislim na zapad . Od pamtiveka je tako . Zapad se od uvek udruzivao u pljackaskim napadima na Rusiju , pa i na SSSR.
 
Battlegroups of the Waffen-SS
Number Division Origin Last commander Operational Symbol Maximum manpower
1st "Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler" Germany SS-Brigadeführer Otto Kumm 1933-1945 20,844 (1942)[1]
2nd "Das Reich" Germany SS-Standartenführer Rudolf Lehmann 1939-1945 20,184 (1944)[2]
3rd "Totenkopf" Germany SS-Brigadeführer Hellmuth Becker 1939-1945 21,186 (1942)[3]
4th "Polizei" Germany SS-Standartenführer Fritz Göhler 1940-1945 19,377 (1941)[4]
5th "Wiking" Germany SS-Oberführer Karl Ulrich 1940-1945 17,347 (1941)[5]
6th "Nord" Germany SS-Standartenführer Franz Schriber 1941-1945 21,247 (1942)[6]
7th "Prinz Eugen" Germany SS-Brigadeführer August Schmidthuber 1942-1945 21,120 (1943)[7]
8th "Florian Geyer" Germany SS-Brigadeführer Joachim Rumohr 1942-1945 13,000 (1944)[8]
9th "Hohenstaufen" Germany SS-Standartenführer Walter Harzer 1943-1945 19,611 (1943)[9]
10th "Frundsberg" Germany SS-Obersturmbannführer Franz Roestel 1943-1945 19,313 (1943)[10]
11th "Nordland" Norway SS-Brigadeführer Dr. Gustav Krunkenberg 1943-1945 11,749 (1943)[11]
12th "Hitlerjugend" Germany SS-Brigadeführer Hugo Kraas 1943-1945 21,482 (1943)[12]
13th "Handschar" Croatia SS-Brigadeführer Desiderius Hampel 1943-1945 21,065 (1943)[13]
14th "Galizien" Ukraine SS-Brigadeführer Pavlo Schandruk 1944-1945 22,000 (1944)[14]
15th "Lettische Nr. 1" Latvia SS-Oberführer Karl Burk 1942-1945 20,291 (1943)[15]
16th "Reichsführer-SS" Germany SS-Brigadeführer Otto Baum 1943-1945 14,223 (1943)[16]
17th "Götz von Berlichingen" Germany SS-Oberführer Georg Bochmann 1943-1945 18,354 (1944)[17]
18th "Horst Wessel" Hungary SS-Standartenführer Heinrich Petersen 1944-1945 11,000 (1944)[18]
19th "Lettische Nr. 2" Latvia SS-Gruppenführer Bruno Streckenbach 1944-1945 10,592 (1944)[19]
20th "Estnische Nr. 1" Estonia SS-Standartenführer Alfons Rebane 1943-1945 15,382 (1944)[20]
21st "Skanderberg" Albania SS-Oberführer August Schmidthuber 1944-1945 6,156 (1944)[21]
22nd "Maria Theresia" Hungary SS-Brigadeführer August Zehender 1944-1945 8,000 (1944)[22]
23rd "Kama" Croatia SS-Oberführer Gustav Lombard 1944 2,199 (1944)[23]
23rd "Nederland" Netherlands SS-Brigadeführer Jürgen Wagner 1945 6,000 (1944)[24]
24th "Karstjäger" Italy SS-Oberführer Adolf Wagner 1944-1945 3,000 (1944)[25]
25th "Hunyadi" Hungary SS-Gruppenführer Josef Grassy 1944-1945 15,000 (1944)[26]
26th "Hungaria" Hungary SS-Gruppenführer Josef Grassy 1944-1945 13,000 (1944)[27]
27th "Langemarck" Flemish SS-Standartenführer Thomas Müller 1944-1945 7,000 (1944)[28]
28th "Wallonien" Wallonia SS-Standartenführer Léon Degrelle 1944-1945 4,000 (1944)[29]
29th "RONA" Russian SS-Brigadeführer Christoph Diehm 1944 15,000 (1943)[30]
29th "Italia" Italy SS-Oberführer Erwin Tzschoppe 1945 15,000 (1944)[31]
30th "Russische Nr. 2" Belarusian SS-Obersturmbannführer Hans Siegling 1944-1945 4,400 (1944)
30th "Weißruthenische Nr. 1" Belarusian SS-Standartenführer Hans Siegling 1945
31st "Böhmen-Mähren" Hungary SS-Brigadeführer Gustav Lombard 1944-1945 11,000 {1944}
32nd "30. Januar" Germany SS-Standartenführer Hans Kempin 1945
33rd "Ungarische Nr. 3" Hungary SS-Oberführer László Deák 1945
33rd "Charlemagne" France SS-Standartenführer Walter Zimmermann 1945 [32]
34th "Landstorm Nederland" Netherlands SS-Oberführer Martin Kohlroser 1945 [33]
35th SS and Police Grenadier Division Germany SS-Standartenführer Rüdiger Pipkorn 1945 [34]
36th "Dirlewanger" Mixed SS-Oberführer Dr. Oskar Dirlewanger 1945 [35]
37th "Lützow" Hungary SS-Standartenführer Karl Gesele 1945 [36]
38th "Nibelungen" Germany SS-Standartenführer Martin Stange 1945 6000 [ Cijela europa se borila za treči rajh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS_divisions
 
Battlegroups of the Waffen-SS
Number Division Origin Last commander Operational Symbol Maximum manpower
1st "Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler" Germany SS-Brigadeführer Otto Kumm 1933-1945 20,844 (1942)[1]
2nd "Das Reich" Germany SS-Standartenführer Rudolf Lehmann 1939-1945 20,184 (1944)[2]
3rd "Totenkopf" Germany SS-Brigadeführer Hellmuth Becker 1939-1945 21,186 (1942)[3]
4th "Polizei" Germany SS-Standartenführer Fritz Göhler 1940-1945 19,377 (1941)[4]
5th "Wiking" Germany SS-Oberführer Karl Ulrich 1940-1945 17,347 (1941)[5]
6th "Nord" Germany SS-Standartenführer Franz Schriber 1941-1945 21,247 (1942)[6]
7th "Prinz Eugen" Germany SS-Brigadeführer August Schmidthuber 1942-1945 21,120 (1943)[7]
8th "Florian Geyer" Germany SS-Brigadeführer Joachim Rumohr 1942-1945 13,000 (1944)[8]
9th "Hohenstaufen" Germany SS-Standartenführer Walter Harzer 1943-1945 19,611 (1943)[9]
10th "Frundsberg" Germany SS-Obersturmbannführer Franz Roestel 1943-1945 19,313 (1943)[10]
11th "Nordland" Norway SS-Brigadeführer Dr. Gustav Krunkenberg 1943-1945 11,749 (1943)[11]
12th "Hitlerjugend" Germany SS-Brigadeführer Hugo Kraas 1943-1945 21,482 (1943)[12]
13th "Handschar" Croatia SS-Brigadeführer Desiderius Hampel 1943-1945 21,065 (1943)[13]
14th "Galizien" Ukraine SS-Brigadeführer Pavlo Schandruk 1944-1945 22,000 (1944)[14]
15th "Lettische Nr. 1" Latvia SS-Oberführer Karl Burk 1942-1945 20,291 (1943)[15]
16th "Reichsführer-SS" Germany SS-Brigadeführer Otto Baum 1943-1945 14,223 (1943)[16]
17th "Götz von Berlichingen" Germany SS-Oberführer Georg Bochmann 1943-1945 18,354 (1944)[17]
18th "Horst Wessel" Hungary SS-Standartenführer Heinrich Petersen 1944-1945 11,000 (1944)[18]
19th "Lettische Nr. 2" Latvia SS-Gruppenführer Bruno Streckenbach 1944-1945 10,592 (1944)[19]
20th "Estnische Nr. 1" Estonia SS-Standartenführer Alfons Rebane 1943-1945 15,382 (1944)[20]
21st "Skanderberg" Albania SS-Oberführer August Schmidthuber 1944-1945 6,156 (1944)[21]
22nd "Maria Theresia" Hungary SS-Brigadeführer August Zehender 1944-1945 8,000 (1944)[22]
23rd "Kama" Croatia SS-Oberführer Gustav Lombard 1944 2,199 (1944)[23]
23rd "Nederland" Netherlands SS-Brigadeführer Jürgen Wagner 1945 6,000 (1944)[24]
24th "Karstjäger" Italy SS-Oberführer Adolf Wagner 1944-1945 3,000 (1944)[25]
25th "Hunyadi" Hungary SS-Gruppenführer Josef Grassy 1944-1945 15,000 (1944)[26]
26th "Hungaria" Hungary SS-Gruppenführer Josef Grassy 1944-1945 13,000 (1944)[27]
27th "Langemarck" Flemish SS-Standartenführer Thomas Müller 1944-1945 7,000 (1944)[28]
28th "Wallonien" Wallonia SS-Standartenführer Léon Degrelle 1944-1945 4,000 (1944)[29]
29th "RONA" Russian SS-Brigadeführer Christoph Diehm 1944 15,000 (1943)[30]
29th "Italia" Italy SS-Oberführer Erwin Tzschoppe 1945 15,000 (1944)[31]
30th "Russische Nr. 2" Belarusian SS-Obersturmbannführer Hans Siegling 1944-1945 4,400 (1944)
30th "Weißruthenische Nr. 1" Belarusian SS-Standartenführer Hans Siegling 1945
31st "Böhmen-Mähren" Hungary SS-Brigadeführer Gustav Lombard 1944-1945 11,000 {1944}
32nd "30. Januar" Germany SS-Standartenführer Hans Kempin 1945
33rd "Ungarische Nr. 3" Hungary SS-Oberführer László Deák 1945
33rd "Charlemagne" France SS-Standartenführer Walter Zimmermann 1945 [32]
34th "Landstorm Nederland" Netherlands SS-Oberführer Martin Kohlroser 1945 [33]
35th SS and Police Grenadier Division Germany SS-Standartenführer Rüdiger Pipkorn 1945 [34]
36th "Dirlewanger" Mixed SS-Oberführer Dr. Oskar Dirlewanger 1945 [35]
37th "Lützow" Hungary SS-Standartenführer Karl Gesele 1945 [36]
38th "Nibelungen" Germany SS-Standartenführer Martin Stange 1945 6000 [ Cijela europa se borila za treči rajh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen SS_divisions
 

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