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da li su albanci iliri? iako postoji mnogo "cinjenica" albanskih autora da je to nepobitna istina [ posto to mi tvrdimo, zato sam stavio to pod znacima navoda] ja vam nudim jedan neutralan izvor, evo jednog interesantnog clanka, gde se mozda moze pronaci deo istine.
[edit] Albania (Balkans)
The Balkan toponym Albania may share the same etymology as the Alps, which is of disputed etymology[1].
Some linguists propose a derivation from the Proto-Indo-European root *albho-, which meant 'white'; referring perhaps to the snow-capped mountains of Albania.
Others think the source may be a non-Indo-European root *alb-, meaning 'mountain' (cf. pre-Celtic alb, "hill").
Another idea is that Albania derives from PIE *al-, 'to grow, nourish', from which comes Latin altus, 'high, elevated'.
Albania as the name of a region in the Balkans does not seem to go back to ancient times, but rather it appears that Balkan Albania derives from an ethnonym, Albanoi, the name of an Illyrian tribe. It is thus agreed that Albanoi, Albania, and Albanian share the same etymon.
[edit] Arbon
The toponym Arbon (Άρβων or Αρβών) is mentioned by Polybius in the History of the World (second century BC). The people who lived there were called Arbonitai (Αρβωνίται). Biris relates the name Arbon with the name Arbanitai, and notes the similarities of Arbon with Arben and Arbana.
[edit] Albanoi
Albanoi first occurs in extant written sources in a work of Ptolemy dating back to 130 AD. "Albanopolis of the Albanoi" appears on a map of Ptolemy, a place located in what is now North central Albania.
The Albanoi were Illyrians, but whether the modern Albanians have an ethnic continuity with the Illyrian Albanoi is disputed (see Origin of Albanians), and the ethnonym may have been transferred to an unrelated people. The Albanoi are also named on a Roman-era family epitaph at Scupi, which has been identified with the Zgërdhesh hill-fort near Kruja in northern Albania.
[edit] Albania
According to the Albanian scholar Faïk bey Konitza, the term "Albania" did not displace "Illyria" completely until the end of the fourteenth century. The word "Alba" or "Arba" seems to be connected with the town Arba (modern Rab, Croatia), in prehistoric times inhabited by the Illyrian Liburnians, first mentioned in 360 BC.
Approximately a millennium after, some Byzantine writers use the words "Albanon" and "Arbanon" to indicate the region of Kruja. Under the Angiò, in the 13th century, the names "Albania" and "Albanenses" indicate the whole country and all the population, as it is demonstrated by the works of many ancient Albanian writers such as Budi, Blanco and Bogdano.
We first learn of the ancestors of the modern Albanians in their native land as the Arbanites of Arbanon in Anna Comnena's account (Alexiad, IV) of the troubles in that region caused in the reign of her father Alexius I Comneus (1081-1118) by the Normans. In the History written in 1079-1080, Byzantine historian Michael Attaliates was first to refer to the Albanoi as having taken part in a revolt against Constantinople in 1043 and to the Arbanitai as subjects of the duke of Dyrrachium.
Their descendants in Greece and Italy have been called in different ways with the passing of the years: Arbërór (in Arvanitic) or more commonly Arvanites (in Greek), Arbënuer, Arbënor, Arbëneshë, Arbëreshë.
[edit] Arbanon
Arbanon may have been the name of a district, rather than a particular place. The plain of the Mat has been suggested.
The mediaeval ethnonyms Arbanitai and Arbanios and the corresponding modern ethnonyms Arvanite, Arber, and Arbëreshë are considered by many linguists to have the same etymology as Albania, being derived from the stem Alb- by way of a rhotacism, Alb- → Arb-. Compare the rhotacism of alb- into arv- in the Neapolitan dialect of Italy.
Some linguists have argued that Arbanitai derives from the place, or river, called Arbanon, and Greek linguist Georgios Babiniotis states that Arvanite, Arber, and Arbëreshë do not derive from Albania or Albanoi.
However, the ethnonym Albanians may itself derive from Arbanon [2].
[edit] Shqipëria
There seems to be no doubt that the root Alb- or Arb- is earlier than Shqip-, from which the modern name of the state Shqipëria (Tosk: Shqipërija, Gheg: Shqipnija) derives, a name which appears only in the time of the Turkish invasions. The Albanian name of the country, Shqipëria, translates into English as "Land of the Eagles", hence the two-headed bird on the national flag and emblem, and because of the large presence of these animals in the mountainous zones of Albania.
Biris notes that the terms Shqipëria and Shqiptarë probably weren't Turkish, since the Ottomans used the term Arnaut. Kollias writes: "I believe that the name Shqiptarë was first used by the greatest Albanian hero, Scanderbeg", and he also notes the connection with the eagle (shqipe or shqiponjë is Albanian for eagle) of Scanderbeg's emblem.
The Tale of the Eagle is an Albanian folk tale about the origin of the name Shqipetar.
[edit] Albania (Caucasus)
Albania in antiquity was the name of a land in the Caucasus region, now usually referred to as Caucasian Albania. It is not known for certain whether Caucasian Albania has the same etymology as the Balkan Albania.
[edit] Albania (Scotland)
Alba, a Gaelic name for Scotland, may be related to the Greek name of Britain Albion, latinized as Albania during the High Medieval period, and later passed into Middle English as Albany. Some recent scholarship has however connected it with one of the early names of Ireland, "Fodla", which is taken to mean (land of the) "going down" (of the Sun), in contrast to Alba which means (land of the) "rising" (of the Sun). This is consistent with one of the ancient emblems of Scotland consisting of a rising sun crossing the horizon, a symbol laden with much significance.
[edit] Albania (Balkans)
The Balkan toponym Albania may share the same etymology as the Alps, which is of disputed etymology[1].
Some linguists propose a derivation from the Proto-Indo-European root *albho-, which meant 'white'; referring perhaps to the snow-capped mountains of Albania.
Others think the source may be a non-Indo-European root *alb-, meaning 'mountain' (cf. pre-Celtic alb, "hill").
Another idea is that Albania derives from PIE *al-, 'to grow, nourish', from which comes Latin altus, 'high, elevated'.
Albania as the name of a region in the Balkans does not seem to go back to ancient times, but rather it appears that Balkan Albania derives from an ethnonym, Albanoi, the name of an Illyrian tribe. It is thus agreed that Albanoi, Albania, and Albanian share the same etymon.
[edit] Arbon
The toponym Arbon (Άρβων or Αρβών) is mentioned by Polybius in the History of the World (second century BC). The people who lived there were called Arbonitai (Αρβωνίται). Biris relates the name Arbon with the name Arbanitai, and notes the similarities of Arbon with Arben and Arbana.
[edit] Albanoi
Albanoi first occurs in extant written sources in a work of Ptolemy dating back to 130 AD. "Albanopolis of the Albanoi" appears on a map of Ptolemy, a place located in what is now North central Albania.
The Albanoi were Illyrians, but whether the modern Albanians have an ethnic continuity with the Illyrian Albanoi is disputed (see Origin of Albanians), and the ethnonym may have been transferred to an unrelated people. The Albanoi are also named on a Roman-era family epitaph at Scupi, which has been identified with the Zgërdhesh hill-fort near Kruja in northern Albania.
[edit] Albania
According to the Albanian scholar Faïk bey Konitza, the term "Albania" did not displace "Illyria" completely until the end of the fourteenth century. The word "Alba" or "Arba" seems to be connected with the town Arba (modern Rab, Croatia), in prehistoric times inhabited by the Illyrian Liburnians, first mentioned in 360 BC.
Approximately a millennium after, some Byzantine writers use the words "Albanon" and "Arbanon" to indicate the region of Kruja. Under the Angiò, in the 13th century, the names "Albania" and "Albanenses" indicate the whole country and all the population, as it is demonstrated by the works of many ancient Albanian writers such as Budi, Blanco and Bogdano.
We first learn of the ancestors of the modern Albanians in their native land as the Arbanites of Arbanon in Anna Comnena's account (Alexiad, IV) of the troubles in that region caused in the reign of her father Alexius I Comneus (1081-1118) by the Normans. In the History written in 1079-1080, Byzantine historian Michael Attaliates was first to refer to the Albanoi as having taken part in a revolt against Constantinople in 1043 and to the Arbanitai as subjects of the duke of Dyrrachium.
Their descendants in Greece and Italy have been called in different ways with the passing of the years: Arbërór (in Arvanitic) or more commonly Arvanites (in Greek), Arbënuer, Arbënor, Arbëneshë, Arbëreshë.
[edit] Arbanon
Arbanon may have been the name of a district, rather than a particular place. The plain of the Mat has been suggested.
The mediaeval ethnonyms Arbanitai and Arbanios and the corresponding modern ethnonyms Arvanite, Arber, and Arbëreshë are considered by many linguists to have the same etymology as Albania, being derived from the stem Alb- by way of a rhotacism, Alb- → Arb-. Compare the rhotacism of alb- into arv- in the Neapolitan dialect of Italy.
Some linguists have argued that Arbanitai derives from the place, or river, called Arbanon, and Greek linguist Georgios Babiniotis states that Arvanite, Arber, and Arbëreshë do not derive from Albania or Albanoi.
However, the ethnonym Albanians may itself derive from Arbanon [2].
[edit] Shqipëria
There seems to be no doubt that the root Alb- or Arb- is earlier than Shqip-, from which the modern name of the state Shqipëria (Tosk: Shqipërija, Gheg: Shqipnija) derives, a name which appears only in the time of the Turkish invasions. The Albanian name of the country, Shqipëria, translates into English as "Land of the Eagles", hence the two-headed bird on the national flag and emblem, and because of the large presence of these animals in the mountainous zones of Albania.
Biris notes that the terms Shqipëria and Shqiptarë probably weren't Turkish, since the Ottomans used the term Arnaut. Kollias writes: "I believe that the name Shqiptarë was first used by the greatest Albanian hero, Scanderbeg", and he also notes the connection with the eagle (shqipe or shqiponjë is Albanian for eagle) of Scanderbeg's emblem.
The Tale of the Eagle is an Albanian folk tale about the origin of the name Shqipetar.
[edit] Albania (Caucasus)
Albania in antiquity was the name of a land in the Caucasus region, now usually referred to as Caucasian Albania. It is not known for certain whether Caucasian Albania has the same etymology as the Balkan Albania.
[edit] Albania (Scotland)
Alba, a Gaelic name for Scotland, may be related to the Greek name of Britain Albion, latinized as Albania during the High Medieval period, and later passed into Middle English as Albany. Some recent scholarship has however connected it with one of the early names of Ireland, "Fodla", which is taken to mean (land of the) "going down" (of the Sun), in contrast to Alba which means (land of the) "rising" (of the Sun). This is consistent with one of the ancient emblems of Scotland consisting of a rising sun crossing the horizon, a symbol laden with much significance.
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