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Top Republicans want Trump done — forevermore

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President Trump faces reporters as he walks toward Marine One

Mike Allen, Jim VandeHei

https://www.axios.com/republicans-t...ion-a811503e-129d-4f52-bb0c-10f155710d22.html
 
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So far there are five Republicans in Congress who have come out in support in public of impeaching president Donald Trump.

Here is who they are and what they have said:

Rep. John Katko (New York): “By deliberately promoting baseless theories suggesting the election was somehow stolen, the president created a combustible environment of misinformation, disenfranchisement, and division. When this manifested in violent acts on 6 January, he refused to promptly and forcefully call it off, putting countless lives in danger.”

Rep. Liz Cheney (Wyoming): “The president summoned this mob, assembled the mob, and lit the flame of this attack. Everything that followed was his doing. None of this would have happened without the president. The president could have immediately and forcefully intervened to stop the violence. He did not.”

Rep. Fred Upton (Michigan): “I would have preferred a bipartisan, formal censure rather than a drawn-out impeachment process. But it is time to say: Enough is Enough.”

Rep. Herrera Beutler (Washington): “I understand the argument that the best course is not to further inflame the country or alienate Republican voters. But I am a Republican voter. I believe in our Constitution.”

Rep. Adam Kinzinger (Illinois): “There is no doubt in my mind that the president of the United States broke his oath of office and incited this insurrection. He used his position in the Executive to attack the Legislative. So in assessing the articles of impeachment brought before the House, I must consider: if these actions – the Article II branch inciting a deadly insurrection against the Article I branch – are not worthy of impeachment, then what is an impeachable offense?”
 
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House gavels in session to consider article of impeachment

The House has now gaveled in its session to debate and vote on the article of impeachment, incitement of insurrection, against Donald Trump.

After gaveling in the session, the House immediately went into a brief recess before starting the debate on the article of impeachment.

The final vote on the article, incitement of insurrection, is expected around 3 pm ET.

The article is expected to pass with the support of all Democrats and at least five Republicans, meaning this impeachment (unlike Donald Trump’s first impeachment) will be bipartisan.

Grun Kibben, the House chaplain, reflected on the gravity of the day and the grief of the past week in her opening prayer this morning.

“We stand before you to give account for our role in today’s momentous decisions and our deepest desire to carry out responsibilities to govern, protect and preserve this nation while yet unsettled by the events of this past week,” Kibben said.

The president’s likely impeachment comes exactly one week after he incited a violent, pro-Trump mob to storm the Capitol, resulting in five deaths.
 
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Steny Hoyer, the House majority leader, told NBC News that the chamber would immediately send the impeachment article to the Senate if it passes the House.

Leigh Ann Caldwell (@LACaldwellDC)
.@LeaderHoyer told me Democrats would send impeachment articles to the Senate immediately.
January 13, 2021

There had been discussions among Democrats about holding back the article until their party took control of the Senate, but it seems House leadership decided against that.
 
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Tom Cole, the top Republican on the House rules committee, made a process argument against the second impeachment of Donald Trump.

“This is not the type of robust process we’ve followed for every modern impeachment,” Cole said on the House floor.

The Republican congressman called for “healing” after a violent mob stormed the Capitol, arguing another impeachment would only further divide the nation.

It’s worth noting that last week, Cole supported an objection to counting Arizona and Pennsylvania’s electoral votes for Joe Biden after the violence at the Capitol.
 
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Počela rasprava o opozivu Trumpa. Demokrat: Raspravljamo na mjestu zločina

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Index Vijesti prije 3 minute

Kako će izgledati današnji dan?

Zastupnici se sastaju u 9 sati po lokalnom vremenu (15 sati u Hrvatskoj). Na početku se očekuje utvrđivanje pravila po kojima će se voditi rasprava o opozivu. To bi trebalo trajati oko sat vremena, piše BBC.
Potom slijedi rasprava o opozivu koja bi trebala trajati oko dva sata.
Nakon te rasprave slijedi prvo glasanje. Nakon glasanja se očekuje nekoliko sati rasprave o pojedinačnim člancima opoziva. Republikanci dobivaju po jedan sat za svaki članak, demokrati također jedan. Budući da u ovom slučaju postoji samo jedan članak, očekuje se da će rasprava trajati dva sata.
Nakon svega toga slijedi glasanje o opozivu.

>> RAZVOJ DOGAĐAJA IZ MINUTE U MINUTU PRATITE NA INDEXU


5:48 "Opoziv će izazvati daljnje podjele"

Republikanski kongresmen Tom Cole kaže kako će opoziv među Amerikancima izazvati još više podjela.
Kaže kako je napad rulje na Kapitol bio najmračniji dan u njegovoj karijeri, ali da sada, kada je predsjednik priznao i potvrdio pobjedu Joea Bidena, ishitreni opoziv neće pomoći naciji da napreduje.
"Ne mogu se sjetiti ničega što će uzrokovati daljnju podjelu više od puta na kojem se trenutno nalazimo. Umjesto da se raduje novoj administraciji, većina pokušava izravnati račune sa starom", rekao je Cole.

15:43 "Raspravljamo na mjestu zločina"

Predstavnici Zastupničkog Doma vratili su se s pauze
"Raspravljamo o ovoj povijesnoj mjeri na stvarnom mjestu zločina i ne bismo bili ovdje da nije bilo predsjednika Sjedinjenih Američkih Država. Čudo je što više ljudi nije umrlo. Nikad neću zaboraviti ono što sam vidio kada sam pogledao u oči tim napadačima. Vidio sam zlo", rekao je demokrat Jim McGovern.

15:40 Demokrat iz Zastupničkog Doma: Trump je poticao bijes nasilne rulje

Demokratski zastupnik Jim McGovern, otvorio je sjednicu Doma s nekoliko primjedbi o onome što se dogodilo 6. siječnja u Kapitolu te o ulozi Trumpa i njegovih saveznika napadu na Kapitol.
"Donald Trump i njegovi saveznici potpirivali su bijes nasilne rulje", rekao je McGovern.

15:29 Američka vojska podsjeća vojnike da ostanu "apolitični"

Nakon napada na Kapitol američka vojska poslala je poruku svojoj zajednici - uključujući vojnike, civilne radnike i članove njihovih obitelji.
"Branimo prava svakog Amerikanca i štitimo uloge naših demokratskih institucija. Podsjećamo sve vojnike i civile da poštuju apolitične standarde vojske. Od svih pripadnika američke vojske očekuje se da slijede zakon i čine ispravne stvari, bez obzira na to jesmo li u uniformi ili izvan nje", stoji u pismu koje su napisali vodeći ljudi američke vojske.


15:25 Glasanje će potrajati zbog protokola povezanog s koronavirusom

Zastupnički dom počeo je zasjedanje i uskoro kreće postupak opoziva. Rezolucija o opozivu o kojoj će Dom danas glasati tereti Trumpa u vezi s njegovom ulogom u prošlotjednoj pobuni u Kapitolu. Očekuje se da će prva rasprava trajati oko sat vremena.
Glasanje će potrajati zbog protokola povezanog s koronavirusom, a zastupnici moraju proći kroz detektore metala.
Čak i u slučaju da Dom izglasa opoziv Trumpa, on će najvjerojatnije ostati na funkciji i vjerojatno završiti svoj mandat jer bi Senat trebao potvrditi njegovu smjenu.
 
Okej, znači Staljinovo ubijanje ljudi ne ulazi u tu kategoriju?
Отвори тему о томе, па кад будеш имао бројку слободан си поставити је овде, да упоредимо са бројем који си добио везано за ову тему.
Не може се причати у упоредној анализи података, а још ниси ни први део посла урадио.
 
Отвори тему о томе, па кад будеш имао бројку слободан си поставити је овде, да упоредимо са бројем који си добио везано за ову тему.
Не може се причати у упоредној анализи података, а још ниси ни први део посла урадио.
Ma ne da mi se otvarati tema, samo je prilično naivno proglašavati Amere najvećim ubojicama u zadnjih 100 godina pored recimo jedne nacističke Njemačke, da ne spominjem sve one ostale tipa Staljina.
 
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Senate impeachment trial as soon as this week?

Republican leadership in the US Senate is mulling the possibility of beginning an impeachment trial of Donald Trump as early as Friday if (as appears highly likely) the Democratic Party-dominated House of Representatives approves one article of impeachment, according to a report this morning.

A senior Senate Republican aide, who asked not to be identified, has told the above to the Reuters news agency, and stressed that no decisions had yet been made on whether to take that step.

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Hundreds of US National Guard troops rest in the US Capitol Visitors Center, with the Statue of Freedom seen at center, on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC, today.
At least ten thousand troops of the National Guard will be deployed in Washington by the end of the week, with the possibility of five thousand more, to help secure the Capitol area ahead of more potentially violent unrest in the days leading up to the inauguration of Joe Biden on January 20
 
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The vote on the rule to set up debate on the article of impeachment is underway, and a number of Republicans are voting by proxy.

The decision is noteworthy because Republican members have criticized House speaker Nancy Pelosi for allowing voting by proxy amid the coronavirus pandemic.

But today, a week after a violent mob stormed the US Capitol, many Republican members are taking the proxy option.
 
Конгрес као војна база: Седницу о Трамповом опозиву обезбеђује Национална гарда
Седницу на којој амерички Конгрес расправља о опозиву председника Доналда Трампа обезбеђује Национална гарда. Конгрес је пун војника под оружјем, о чему сведоче фотографије на друштвеним мрежама, а поједини извештачи из конгреса коментарисали су на друштвеним мрежама да Конгрес изгледа као војна база.
Erik Wasson on Twitter: "The US Capitol is now a military base. Massive show of force outside. National Guard is armed with rifles and spread j Kongres kao vojna baza: Sednicu o Trampovom opozivu obezbeđuje Nacionalna garda (ФОТО) | СРБИН.ИНФО (srbin.info) ust few feet apart along perimeter as House prepares to impeach the president https://t.co/cPspvZMBUF" / Twitter
Sunce ti poljubim kakva tek demokratija stiže u USA.PROPIŠAĆETE SVI OSTALI MAJČINO MLEKO JA VAM KAŽEM. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
 
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