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Title: CUTTING EDGE HAS LEARNED THE REAL REASON AMERICAN BOMBERS DELIBERATELY BOMBED THE CHINESE EMBASSY IN BELGRADE, SERBIA!

Subtitle: Once you understand the REAL reason we deliberately bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, you will understand that, behind all the Clinton rhetoric that China is no longer an enemy is the reality that Clinton and his advisors still are cautious toward Chinese capability.
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NEWS BRIEF: "China takes Clinton phone call: Previous efforts to apologize to Jiang Zemin on the telephone for the embassy bombing were rebuffed. The leaders also talked about China joining the World Trade Organization", New York Times, reprinted by the Providence Journal, Saturday, May 15, 1999, p. A6.

"WASHINGTON -- A week after the NATO bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, Yuogslavia, President Clinton was finally able to express his condolences directly to Chinese leaders yesterday during a telephone call, and also touched briefly on China's efforts to join the World Trade Organization. News of the phone call was quickly disseminated by the Chinese news agency and featured on Chinese Central Television, suggesting that the Chinese government is eager to portray the United States as having bowed to its demands. It took the government two days to publicize Mr. Clinton's first apology."

"While most of the half-hour conversation was devoted to Washington's regret about the bombing, which killed three Chinese journalists, Mr. Clinton also took the opportunity to say that Chinese entry into the trade organization would benefit both countries, officials said. Despite the cloud cast by the bombings, and longstanding concerns in Congress about China, the Clinton Administration still hopes that trade talks can resume within the next month, and that China, which has continued its trade talks with Europe, can join the world organization itself."

" 'The president once again expressed his sincere regrets and the Chinese people concerning the tragic accident of last week', [Presidential Press Spokesman] Lockhart told reporters. 'The president expressed his desire that we move beyond this tragic accident in our relationship', he said, adding that both sides need to 'continue working' on winning China access to the trade organization."

"The Chinese news agency said Jiang repeated China's view that there was a 'pressing need' for the United States to conduct an investigation of the incident and to make the results public. China had previously demanded that those responsible for the error be punished, but that was not included in yesterday's news report."

When news broke last week that the United States had bombed the Chinese Embassy into rubble in Belgrade, Serbia, something within me cautioned me to move slowly on this story, because something was present that did not immediately meet the eye. If we have been conditioned to believe anything about the current capabilities of our Air Force and Navy, it is that our bombs and missiles are exceedingly accurate. We were repeatedly told this during the Gulf War against Iraq, even to the point where we were lied to on many occasions so the government could build this belief in our minds. Yet, here we were saying that we "accidentally" bombed the Chinese Embassy into rubble, killing six Chinese.

At first, we said that this bombing was an "accident", caused by unknown factors under investigation. However, since the bombs used during this mission were guided by laser beams from commandos on the ground, this story began to leak water immediately. Certainly, the person(s) on the ground aiming the laser beam upon the Embassy would have been close enough to the Embassy to have known that their beams were directed at the Chinese Embassy, not a Serbian military target.

Almost immediately, the story began to change. After calling the bombing an "accident", U.S. and NATO officials switched to another story. They said that the CIA had provided "old" maps of Belgrade that were 4 years old. Since the Chinese Embassy had moved to their new location three years ago, officials were saying that the "old" maps led American pilots to target the wrong installation. However, a quick check of the truth revealed a far different story; four years ago, the present site of the Chinese Embassy was a vacant lot! Certainly, no one could believe that American pilots could not have noticed that a huge building occupied what their "old" maps were showing as a vacant lot. Further, why would Americans have targeted a vacant lot in the first place?

Even though both lies were transparently obvious, American officials stayed with their story. Not only did most informed Americans see right through the lie, you can bet both the Russian and the Chinese Intelligence Services quickly saw through it, as well. Perhaps this is the reason Boris Yeltsin warned that, if the Americans pulled a similar stunt by bombing their embassy, all hell would break out quickly. Perhaps this is the reason China insisted that they did not believe the American lie and would not accept our "apologies" based upon such a lie. Perhaps this is the reason the Chinese are still insisting that the American government "investigate" the bombing and publicly issue the report.

What on earth is the truth? After all, we know that the Chinese, Russian, American, and NATO officials are working together to make the New World Order a reality and to stage their spiritual and political superman, The Christ [Antichrist]. Just as God foretold in Revelation 17:17, all these world leaders are cooperating extremely close to make this world system a reality. With this kind of cooperation going on, it does not seem to make sense that American leaders would deliberately bomb the Chinese Embassy. Perhaps the reason the lie the Americans told was crafted to be so transparent so that Conservatives would conclude that it must have been an accident of some sort, because everyone who knows anything about the New World Order knows that extreme cooperation is occurring in all these capitals.

Further, we have learned that American President Bill Clinton seems to have a particular love affair with the Chinese Communists. He has allowed them to spy at our advanced weapons technology laboratories for years, even after being warned by our FBI that spying was occurring. Clinton overrode the objections of the Pentagon and the Joint Chiefs of Staff to allow the Loral Communications to sell the most sophisticated missile guidance technology in existence in the world today. With this technology, China can now place her most sophisticated nuclear warheads on top of missiles now guided to within 100 feet of their target! We know now that the Chinese Communists funneled who knows how much illegal money into the coffers of Bill Clinton to help him get re-elected in 1996. [Read all about this unbelievable deliberate dismantling of our National Security System by reading NEWS261 and NEWS1261b, Parts 1 and 2 respectively of series, "America's Physical Annihilation", and NEWS1216, "Clinton Changes America's Nuclear Response Strategy Even As Russian Defector's Warnings Are Ignored"]

We now know that Bill Clinton, and his senior advisers, do not consider China to be an enemy anymore. They have made several such statements to that regard.
 
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THE REAL REASON WE BOMBED THAT CHINESE EMBASSY IN BELGRADE, SERBIA

With all this in mind, why would Clinton order -- or at least authorize -- the deliberate bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, Serbia? A source whom we believe is impeccable has told us that the reason we bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade was that the Serbians had turned over to the Chinese the parts from the wreckage of the B2 Stealth Bomber that was recently shot down. The Serbians had taken these parts to the Chinese Embassy, and the Chinese were preparing to fly them out via diplomatic aircraft to China. Once these parts were in the hands of Chinese military scientists, China could discover exactly what makes the Stealth bombers and fighters so difficult to detect by conventional radar.

By bombing the Embassy, especially by totally destroying the building, we hoped to destroy the Stealth bomber parts crated up, awaiting airlift to China. We bombed the Embassy using the radar-guided missiles that are so incredibly accurate because they are following a laser beam painted on the exact part of the building to be hit. These lasers that painted the building in just the right place were manned by American commandos on the ground! Therefore, American officials knew exactly the target at which they were aiming. They knew they were aiming at the Chinese Embassy.

However, the missiles hit just perfectly so that they took out the main supporting beams holding the building up, causing the entire massive structure to totally collapse! Hopefully, the full weight of the building coming down destroyed the Stealth bomber parts so they would be of no use to Chinese military scientists. At the very least, American officials had caused an indefinite delay in the Chinese Plan of getting out their precious cargo; at the most, American officials sent a strong signal to the Chinese that we were prepared to do anything to keep that Stealth bomber wreckage from ever leaving Belgrade. Thus, we can understand that the very transparent nature of our lie sent a strong message to China that we meant business in keeping this wreckage out of their hands.

Even though Clinton and his advisors do not mind China having the most sophisticated nuclear weapons technology, and the most advanced missile guidance technology, we do mind mightily if they obtain Stealth radar-evading technology. We are not scientists so we do not know exactly what makes this technology so sensitive. But, American officials are VERY sensitive about allowing the Chinese to know the deep secret behind the construction of this material.
 
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BIBLE PROPHECY POSSIBLY BEING FULFILLED

The Bible says that, even though the leaders of the 10 Super Nations at the time of Antichrist will cooperate initially to successfully stage Antichrist [Revelation 17:17], this cooperation is fragile, and will not last. In Daniel 2:31-43, God reveals that this cooperation will be like burned potter's clay trying to bond with iron. Just as these substances will not bond together, this fragile cooperation will turn nasty and disastrous, as three of the ten original Super Nations will be totally destroyed, probably by war.

This incident demonstrates to us that the leader of Super Nation #1, President Clinton, does not REALLY trust the Chinese, who are designated Super Nation #10. One other thing that caught my eye is that, even though the Embassy was totally destroyed, as we reported above, none of the Chinese Embassy staff was killed. The three Chinese who died were journalists. The Chinese Ambassador, his family, and his entire staff escaped injury and death. Do you think that Clinton told the Chinese just before the attack that, even though we were the best of "buddies", we just could not allow them access to Stealth technology? If an American warning came just minutes before the attack, people could be saved, but time would have been too short to allow evacuation of the Stealth bomber parts!

Even Clinton does not trust the Chinese enough to allow them access to our Stealth technology. This deeply held mistrust will eventually lead to Biblical prophecy being fulfilled, as found in Daniel 7:7-8, and 20.

We might be looking at the beginning of fulfilled Bible prophecy, in your Daily News, right in front of your eyes. Truly, these momentous events demonstrate we are at the very End of the Age, and that Antichrist is directly ahead of us.

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Koliko god da mi srce radosno zaigra kad cujem ovakve vesti (pogibija americkih vojnika, sruseni NATO avioni itd...), uvek se setim da su nas pobedili postavljajuci marionete na vlast u Srbiji...Vise su nas izdajnici unistili nego NATO.

Postoji i razlog: NATO-u smo se suprotstavili, ovima nismo....

Neka je vecna slava onima koji su dali svoje zivote u borbi protiv visestruko jaceg neprijatelja, nadajuci se da tom zrtvom kupuju slobodu i nezavisnost svojoj deci.
O, kako su nepravedno i tesko prevareni!!!
 
kralj Artur:
Tokom bombardovanja SRJ oboreni su brojni avioni,ali za samo dva imamo dokaz.To su f-16 i f-117.Da li je oboren i B-2.Odgovor možda nikada nećemo saznati pošto je avion prema navodima seljaka pao u Hrvatskoj.Mesto gde je pao avion je bilo blokirano mesecima kako bi se uklonili svi dokazi.Naša vojska tvrdi kako ima snimak presretnutog razgovora između pilota i komande.Pilot nije dobi dozvolu da se katapultira sve dok ne izađe iz vazdušnog prostora Srbije.Da li vi verujete da smo obrili B-2,takozvani Duh Misurija vredan 2milijarde dolara.
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Ja verujem.
 
Mozda,medjutim mene licno kao ucesnika tih desavanja vise zanima sta je bilo sa pilotima koji su se katapultirali iz tako velikog broja aviona,jer je evidentno da nase sluzbe nisu adekvatno reagovale na hvatanje istih,kao i objavljivanje o uhvacenim pilotima i koriscenje istih u svrhu psiholoskopropagandnog rata,secam se da nakon potpisivanja kumanovskog sporazuma krenem peske putem do najblizeg sela negde na severu Vojvodine u republici Srbiji u uniformi ne bi li dosao do autobuske stanice i prebacio se do kuce na vikend,i usput mi stane opel omega VJ table dva potpukovnika povezu me,naravno pricali smo o svacemu,bili su na KUB sistemima i pitam ih jesu imali koje obaranje naravno dodam ako smatraju da je tajna da mi to kazu nek ne govore nista,kazu imali su 13 ispaljenja i trinaest pogodaka,sad gde su katapultirani piloti nek bude da su oborili od tih 13 4 komada a ostale ostetili,ja nisam video da je prikazan ijedan uhvaceni oboreni pilot a nemoguce je da su svi uspeli da dovuku avion nad vazdusni prostor susednih drzava i tamo se katapultiraju jer dokaz za tako nesto je svojevremeno bombardovanje Republike srpske i hvatanje oborenih pilota od strane VRS,dakle da pocnemo.
 
To sam i ja cuo,da su upadali sa helikopterima i izvlacili ih,no onda se postavlja pitanje,je li moguce da smo bili toliko suplji,sta je radila jedinica JSO tada,SDG,spec jedinice MUP-a,i vojske,sta bi bilo da su kopneno krenuli onda bi nam domaci izdajnici sabotirali sve ako ih je bilo toliko,mada ja mislim da tu oko tih NATO oborenih pilota ima jako puno dima od velike vatre,koja jos nije dokucena i jos uvak je cutanje o tome,pa da pocnemo
 
Postoji prica da je negde krajem 1999 na batajnicki aerodrom, nocu u tajnosti, sleteo americki transportni avion. Ocevidac prica da je video tridesetak osoba koje su ukrcane na avion. Bili su u pratnji vojne policije i, kako je ta osoba mogla da raspozna u mraku, uniforme im nisu bile iste. Avion je takodje odleteo u najvecoj tajnosti. Pretpostavka je da su to bili zarobljeni piloti...sada, koliko je to tacno, naravno saznacemo tek za 10-15 godina, a mozda i nikada...
 
Recimo na primer,pretpostavimo,iskander da je ta prica tacna,znaci necemo sumnjati u nju nego cemo je uzeti kao istinitu,zar onda takav dogovor sa NATO oruzanim snagama ne dovodi u kompletan besmisao angazovanje svih jedinica VJ i MUP-a,kao i zrtve kao i civilne zrtve i materijalno razaranje,ili sta ako se ispostavi da je politika imala svog prljavog udela u tome sto kaze brzibravarsrbije,i ja sam cuo jos jednu pricu naime da su se pripadnici 72 spec.brigade sukobili sa USA rendzerima negde oko Kopaonika kad su ovi uleteli sa helikopterima da izvuku pilota te da su ih potamanili,ali opet nigde ni u toj prici koja je kruzila medju vojskom se ne spominje sta je sa pilotom,u nasim izvorima nema ni jednog pomena o uhvacenom ili stradalom prilikom katapultiranja-nije se otvorio padobran-ili u eksploziji oborenog aviona pilota,pa da pocnemo.
 
A opet, prikazali smo na tv one jadnike sto su pohvatani na prokletijama....vrag ce ga znati....
Momci, piloti, su mi pricali fantasticne price o tome koliko gubitaka je nato imao(ne samo iznad Srbije)ali su mi izto i rekli da zvanicno ne smeju da to i potvrde, inace ce izgubiti posao...
Tome u prilog idu i cinjenice o smenjivanju ljudi za koje znamo da su dali nemerljiv doprinos borbi protiv Nato.
Pretpostavljam da smo kapitulirali pod mnogo nepovoljnijim uslovima nego sto su oni za koje znamo...
 
turcin:
Recimo na primer,pretpostavimo,iskander da je ta prica tacna,znaci necemo sumnjati u nju nego cemo je uzeti kao istinitu,zar onda takav dogovor sa NATO oruzanim snagama ne dovodi u kompletan besmisao angazovanje svih jedinica VJ i MUP-a,kao i zrtve kao i civilne zrtve i materijalno razaranje,ili sta ako se ispostavi da je politika imala svog prljavog udela u tome sto kaze brzibravarsrbije,i ja sam cuo jos jednu pricu naime da su se pripadnici 72 spec.brigade sukobili sa USA rendzerima negde oko Kopaonika kad su ovi uleteli sa helikopterima da izvuku pilota te da su ih potamanili,ali opet nigde ni u toj prici koja je kruzila medju vojskom se ne spominje sta je sa pilotom,u nasim izvorima nema ni jednog pomena o uhvacenom ili stradalom prilikom katapultiranja-nije se otvorio padobran-ili u eksploziji oborenog aviona pilota,pa da pocnemo.
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Postoji kodeks koji su potpisali svi oficiri i podoficiri, to je javna tajna. Licno mislim da je razmena zarobljenih pilota i vojnika NATO obavljena u tajnosti i za to je dobro placena. Cak iz jedne price se nazire da je Milosevic, posle bombardovanja, par mostova izgradio od tih para. Da li je to verodostojno, ne zna se pouzdano, ali gde ima dima ima i vatre...
 
Prvo pitanje koje se postavlja je taj kodeks,jel mislis samo na odredjen vid vojske da su oficiri i podoficiri potpisali taj kodeks ili sve oficiri i podoficiri Vj,jer ja nisam dobio nikakav kodeks da potpisem,i prvi put cujem za to no mozda postoji na primer u jedinici za brze intervencije za hvatanje pilota oborenih NATO snaga,mada uvek je postojala mogucnost cak iako su takve jedinice postojale a to nije dokazano vec samo moja pretpostavka na osnovu iznete cinjenice o kodeksu,da neki pilot padne saka regularnoj jedinici vojske,rezervistima ili pripadnicima MUP-a,ali na primer cinjenica koju svi znamo su Budjanovci,mesto u Vojvodini gde je pao f117a,dakle pilot se katapultirao,nije na katapultu imao raketne motore ziroskop,stabilizatore leta i slicno te sa katapultom doleteo na teritoriju Madjarske,ili neke druge saveznicke drzave NATO agresora,pao je na teritoriju Srbije,ali nije uhvacen,od nasih snaga,to znamo,kao sto brzibravarsrbije navede jedino sto je prikazano od zarobljenih pripadnika NATO snaga su ona tri latinosa,mozda jedan nije latinos ali to nije bitno,sad je pitanje sta je bilo s pilotom f117a,kako je ostao neuhvacen i priveden sudskim organima drzave Srbije po ratnim zakonima i Zenevskoj konvenciji,kao i sta je s ostalim pilotima,i ja prvi put cujem da je Milosevic uzimao pare za zarobljene pilote,ako je tako,onda je opet besmisleno ono sto sam naveo,a ponovicu,detaljnije,poletanje Ilje Arizanova i njegovog kolege u neispravnim mig 29 sa Kraljevackog aerodroma,itd.,itd.,kao i uvodjenje poreza solidarnosti posle bombardovanja za obnovu i slicno,dakle nismo nista ustanovili imamo samo nagadjanja i price,ali i samo ali ako se na primer ispostavi tacna cinjenica da je politicko rukovodstvo trgovalo sa NATO,a mnogi i danas sede u vladi iz tog perioda,pitanje je moze li vlada pasti zbog toga i isti politicari biti privedenu pravdi,ali pre svega da se vratimo na osnovnu temu u ovoj prici,sta je sa pilotima,od tolikog broja oborenih aviona nemoguce je da pilota nigde nema,a i ne verujem da je sada to neka tajna oko koje se mora cutati,gledajuci nase izvore i intervjue i filmove o NATO agresiji nisam naisao nigde da iko pominje ijednog pilota da je uhvacen,a posmatrajuci Republiku Srpsku i pilote koji su uhvaceni od strane VRS,a imajuci u vidu da je bombardovanje Srbije bilo neposredno kratko vreme posle bombardovanja Republike Srpske par godina a takodje imajuci u vidu da se VJ i VRS nisu mogle prediti u sistemu PVO,ostaje jedno nerazjasnjeno pitanje kao i okolnosti sta je bilo sa oborenim NATO pilotima,dakle da pocnemo.
 
turcin:
Prvo pitanje koje se postavlja je taj kodeks,jel mislis samo na odredjen vid vojske da su oficiri i podoficiri potpisali taj kodeks ili sve oficiri i podoficiri Vj,jer ja nisam dobio nikakav kodeks da potpisem,i prvi put cujem za to no mozda postoji na primer u jedinici za brze intervencije za hvatanje pilota oborenih NATO snaga,mada uvek je postojala mogucnost cak iako su takve jedinice postojale a to nije dokazano vec samo moja pretpostavka na osnovu iznete cinjenice o kodeksu,da neki pilot padne saka regularnoj jedinici vojske,rezervistima ili pripadnicima MUP-a,ali na primer cinjenica koju svi znamo su Budjanovci,mesto u Vojvodini gde je pao f117a,dakle pilot se katapultirao,nije na katapultu imao raketne motore ziroskop,stabilizatore leta i slicno te sa katapultom doleteo na teritoriju Madjarske,ili neke druge saveznicke drzave NATO agresora,pao je na teritoriju Srbije,ali nije uhvacen,od nasih snaga,to znamo,kao sto brzibravarsrbije navede jedino sto je prikazano od zarobljenih pripadnika NATO snaga su ona tri latinosa,mozda jedan nije latinos ali to nije bitno,sad je pitanje sta je bilo s pilotom f117a,kako je ostao neuhvacen i priveden sudskim organima drzave Srbije po ratnim zakonima i Zenevskoj konvenciji,kao i sta je s ostalim pilotima,i ja prvi put cujem da je Milosevic uzimao pare za zarobljene pilote,ako je tako,onda je opet besmisleno ono sto sam naveo,a ponovicu,detaljnije,poletanje Ilje Arizanova i njegovog kolege u neispravnim mig 29 sa Kraljevackog aerodroma,itd.,itd.,kao i uvodjenje poreza solidarnosti posle bombardovanja za obnovu i slicno,dakle nismo nista ustanovili imamo samo nagadjanja i price,ali i samo ali ako se na primer ispostavi tacna cinjenica da je politicko rukovodstvo trgovalo sa NATO,a mnogi i danas sede u vladi iz tog perioda,pitanje je moze li vlada pasti zbog toga i isti politicari biti privedenu pravdi,ali pre svega da se vratimo na osnovnu temu u ovoj prici,sta je sa pilotima,od tolikog broja oborenih aviona nemoguce je da pilota nigde nema,a i ne verujem da je sada to neka tajna oko koje se mora cutati,gledajuci nase izvore i intervjue i filmove o NATO agresiji nisam naisao nigde da iko pominje ijednog pilota da je uhvacen,a posmatrajuci Republiku Srpsku i pilote koji su uhvaceni od strane VRS,a imajuci u vidu da je bombardovanje Srbije bilo neposredno kratko vreme posle bombardovanja Republike Srpske par godina a takodje imajuci u vidu da se VJ i VRS nisu mogle prediti u sistemu PVO,ostaje jedno nerazjasnjeno pitanje kao i okolnosti sta je bilo sa oborenim NATO pilotima,dakle da pocnemo.
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Vidi, prijatelju, mnogo pitanja postavljas za koje kazes da nemas odgovora. Ako nemas odgovora na neka od tih pitanja onda ti nisi oficir, ako kazes da ne postoji kodeks - ti nisi oficir, ako postavljas pitanja na nacin na koji ih postavljas, a pri tome je akcenat usmeren na sumnju u sve ranije receno, licno ja, ne vidim razlog da ti odgovorim na bilo sta. Pozdrav...
 
Postovani iskander,vi ne morate nista da odgovarate,jer ja vas nisam ni pitai bilo sta,vrlo dobro pratim teme u kojima ucestvujete,ali isto tako vidim da vi ne pratite teme vezane za probleme pripadnika vojske u kojoj aktivno ucestvujem i u kojoj ucestvuje masa oficira i podoficira i kada vam kazem da ja nisam dobio na potpis ikakav kodeks ili bilo kakav dokument vezan za NATO agresiju onda je to tako,a odgovore na pitanja koja ja polemisem vi sigurno imate,ali ne mozete da objavite iz vama znanih razloga,ne zamarajte me vasim besom,ako zelite ucestvovati u polemici i razmeni informacija onda ste dobrodosli,ako zelite graditi vas forumaski ugled i slicno,zaobidji me druskane i idi soli nekom drugom,dakle da pocnemo,koliko vas zna da je ijedan medij ili bilo koje javno saopstenje vojske ili organa vlasti ili MUP-a,te ratne 99 godine kada je NATO vrsio divljacko bombardovanje Srbije,objavilo da je ihvacen pilot oborenog aviona,jednostavno i cisto pitanje.
 
Postoji vojna tajna koju su duzni i obavezni da cuvaju svi pripadnici vojske. Dovoljno je da se neki dogadjaj proglasi takvim. (Strogo pov.Sluzbena tajna)
Cinjenica da nije zabelezeno u jedinicama u kojim sam ja bio, ni jednog takvog dogadjaja, a bio sam u kopnenom delu vojske odredjenom za brza dejstva na teritoriji Beograda.
Sto se mene tice, da sam uhvatio nekog pilota, sigurno bih se tim hvalio.
 

na petom minutu potpukovnici dragan ilic i Ilja Arizanov objasnjavaju svoje poletanje na neispravnim 29-kama,koje su bile na borbenom dezurstvu,njihova prica je snimljena u okviru emisije koju je emitovala RTS,naravno da postoji vojna tajna koju su duzni da cuvaju pripadnici OS-oruzanih snaga,to niko ne spori.Iako kazem da sumnjam da je vojna tajna da je uhvacen neki pilot i sve u vezi toga jer je ovo veca tajna sto je prikazano u 5-om minutu filma a i uostalom ne moze vise biti vojna tajna jer je VJ prestala da postoji kao i SRJ,ako bi se bas drzali,da je to proglaseno vojnom tajnom,naravno stepen tajnosti bi morao biti ne veci od vojna tajna interno vec veci od vojna tajna strogo pov.,jer da se nadovezem na drugu temu gde gospodin iskander objasnjava kako je u magacinima video raznu savremenu opremu i slicno,upravo iz jednog od takvih magacina koji su pripadali nekada pod nadleznost vojnog odseka u kojima se cuvala oprema i naoruzanje za ratne jedinice tzv.RR sastav,po naredbi k-danta armije smo odredjena sredstva veze odnosili u KVOK-komanda vojnog okruga na predaju i dalji rashod na njima je se nalazio crnim slovima latinicom odstampan naziv drzavna tajna,e ti uredjaji su skupo placeni i camili 20 ak godina po magacinima i nikad nisu upotrebljeni,ali zbog stepena tajnosti,niko od ljudi u mom okruzenju nije znao rukovati s njima,postojao je uz njih prirucnik za upotrebu,pa ti sedi citaj i po pisaniju radi,mislim da su tako zamislili upotrebu tog sredstva,s toga jedino ako ima oznaku drzavna tajna ali te drzave vise nema ne postoji SRJ ukinuta je odavno,i stepen tajnisti ako postoji u tom obliku vise ne vazi,koliko god da sam gledao,i citao o padu f117a u Budjanovcima zakljucak je isti,nista se ne pise o pilotu nikakav detaljan izvestaj o njegovoj daljnjoj sudbini ne postoji osim zvanicnog SFOR je intervenisao helikopterima i izvukao ga,pa ako je tako da pitam pa kako bre,.....
 
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