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:shock: Mozda ovo i nije naucna fantastika[/b]
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Red_Zmaja
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Da da...samo se ti nadaj... :wink:GORGHOT:
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neznam za sledeci zivot, ali u proslom sam bila bogata udovica (koja je **sahranila sve svoje muzeve) i zivela je u velikoj kuci sa puuuno macaka...
profi zar ne? 8)
profi zar ne? 8)
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anakin
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ovde neko rece genijalnu misao 
ima li zivota pre smrti? 
ima li zivota pre smrti? Gost
anakin:ovde neko rece genijalnu misao
Sto se tice zivota pre smrti,mislim da je dokazano
da postoji na nekim mestima nase planete.
Nisam siguran ali mislim da su u pitanju NorveskA,Svedska,Holandija,mozda malo u Engleskoj i u Americi
Naravno da postoji zivot posle smrti....
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sida26220
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Ej, Skajvokeru proveri svoje informacije pre nego sto predjes na mracnu stranu... Nije dokazano nego iz tih zemalja poticu (svedska) ljudi koji su imali iskustva koja su objasnjena reinkarnacijom rec je o zeni od 30 god. koja je na ulici srela 70. godisnjeg starca o kome je znala gotovo sve ona je bila nekad njegova majka... tako kaze . Ovakvih slucajeva ima jos. I, deco, ne radi se o zivotu posle smrti, nego o REINKARNACIJI!!!!!!!
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Izvini Skajvokeru, ono gore se odnosi na gosta, koji je citirao anakina!!!!!!!! Sorry....
GORGHOT:
...mhh...
...pa i ja mislim da nije... 8)
...razlicite religije...
...razliciti odgovori... 8)
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Zivot posle smrti...? Smrt nije nista drugo nego jedna stepenica napred. Ne samo ova fizicka smrt, nego bukvalno bas svaka. Ako zelimo nesto bolje, prvo moramo ovome starom dozvoliti da umre, da bi moglo nesto novo da se rodi. Zato nemojte se bojati, smrt ne boli, no porodjaji znaju da budi teski...
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Najpoznatiji slučaj reinkarnacije (miss Bridey Murphy) posle koga je cela problematika postala jako popularna u narodu zaslužuje da se o njemu pročita malo više: (savetujem vam da izdržite do kraja teksta, priča ima neobičan obrt.)
Bridey Murphy was a 19th century woman from Cork, Ireland, who began speaking through Virginia Tighe in Pueblo, Colorado, in 1952 when Morey Bernstein, a local businessman and amateur hypnotist, hypnotized her. Bernstein encouraged past life regression of his subject and she cooperated by speaking in an Irish brogue and claiming to be a 19th century woman in Ireland. Bernstein hypnotized Tighe many times after that. While under hypnosis, she sang Irish songs and told Irish stories, always as Bridey Murphy. Bernstein's book, The Search for Bridey Murphy, became a best-seller. (Tighe is called Ruth Simmons in the book.) Recordings of the hypnotic sessions were made and translated into more than a dozen languages. The recordings sold well, too. The reincarnation boom in American publishing had begun.
Newspapers sent reporters to Ireland to investigate. Was there a red-headed Bridey Murphy who lived in Ireland in the nineteenth century? Who knows, but one paper--the Chicago American--found one in Wisconsin in the 20th century. Bridie Murphey Corkell lived in the house across the street from where Virginia Tighe grew up. What Virginia reported while hypnotized were not memories of a previous life but memories from her early childhood. Whatever else the hypnotic state is, it is a state where one's fantasies are energetically displayed. Many people were impressed with the details of Tighe's hypnotic memories, but the details were not evidence of past life regression, reincarnation, or channeling. They were evidence of a vivid imagination, a confused memory, fraud, or a combination of the three.
It is indicative of the typical lowering of the standards of critical thinking when it comes to belief in the supernatural that defenders of preposterous stories such as this one find easily accessible information to be incontrovertible proof of their veracity. For example, Tighe talks about kissing the Blarney stone and knew that the act requires the assistance of someone who holds you as you lean backwards and face up to kiss the stone. This is common knowledge and photos of this are available in hundreds of sources, yet this fact has been cited as strong evidence that Tighe really kissed the stone in a previous incarnation.* Yet, these same proponents of the strange and occult are not concerned that the kind of reincarnation they are considering contradicts everything we know about how memory works, not to mention that it is impossible to explain without rejecting everything we know about human consciousness and the brain. Such beliefs are works of pure imagination, which we tolerate in cartoons and for entertainment, but which any rational creature should rebuke in those who claim to be seeking the truth.
As Martin Gardner says, "Almost any hypnotic subject capable of going into a deep trance will babble about a previous incarnation if the hypnotist asks him to. He will babble just as freely about his future incarnations....In every case of this sort where there has been adequate checking on the subject's past, it has been found that the subject was weaving together long forgotten bits of information acquired during his early years" (Gardner 1957).
Bridey Murphy was a 19th century woman from Cork, Ireland, who began speaking through Virginia Tighe in Pueblo, Colorado, in 1952 when Morey Bernstein, a local businessman and amateur hypnotist, hypnotized her. Bernstein encouraged past life regression of his subject and she cooperated by speaking in an Irish brogue and claiming to be a 19th century woman in Ireland. Bernstein hypnotized Tighe many times after that. While under hypnosis, she sang Irish songs and told Irish stories, always as Bridey Murphy. Bernstein's book, The Search for Bridey Murphy, became a best-seller. (Tighe is called Ruth Simmons in the book.) Recordings of the hypnotic sessions were made and translated into more than a dozen languages. The recordings sold well, too. The reincarnation boom in American publishing had begun.
Newspapers sent reporters to Ireland to investigate. Was there a red-headed Bridey Murphy who lived in Ireland in the nineteenth century? Who knows, but one paper--the Chicago American--found one in Wisconsin in the 20th century. Bridie Murphey Corkell lived in the house across the street from where Virginia Tighe grew up. What Virginia reported while hypnotized were not memories of a previous life but memories from her early childhood. Whatever else the hypnotic state is, it is a state where one's fantasies are energetically displayed. Many people were impressed with the details of Tighe's hypnotic memories, but the details were not evidence of past life regression, reincarnation, or channeling. They were evidence of a vivid imagination, a confused memory, fraud, or a combination of the three.
It is indicative of the typical lowering of the standards of critical thinking when it comes to belief in the supernatural that defenders of preposterous stories such as this one find easily accessible information to be incontrovertible proof of their veracity. For example, Tighe talks about kissing the Blarney stone and knew that the act requires the assistance of someone who holds you as you lean backwards and face up to kiss the stone. This is common knowledge and photos of this are available in hundreds of sources, yet this fact has been cited as strong evidence that Tighe really kissed the stone in a previous incarnation.* Yet, these same proponents of the strange and occult are not concerned that the kind of reincarnation they are considering contradicts everything we know about how memory works, not to mention that it is impossible to explain without rejecting everything we know about human consciousness and the brain. Such beliefs are works of pure imagination, which we tolerate in cartoons and for entertainment, but which any rational creature should rebuke in those who claim to be seeking the truth.
As Martin Gardner says, "Almost any hypnotic subject capable of going into a deep trance will babble about a previous incarnation if the hypnotist asks him to. He will babble just as freely about his future incarnations....In every case of this sort where there has been adequate checking on the subject's past, it has been found that the subject was weaving together long forgotten bits of information acquired during his early years" (Gardner 1957).
Zivot posle smrti?Mislim da cemo svi saznati kad umremo. :wink:
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U tome je glavni problem! Nećemo saznati, jer ćemo biti mrtvi, a samo živi mogu da saznaju...sevalav:
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Hehe,kako znas da necemo saznati... :wink:
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Ne možeš ništa saznati kad si mrtav.limunada:
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Jesi li kad dosad bio mrtav? 
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Sizife,sto mi ne odgovori na pitanje?
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Odgovorio sam ti, na dnu prethodne strane, ali hajde opet.limunada:Sizife,sto mi ne odgovori na pitanje?
Ne možeš ništa saznati kad si mrtav, jer je saznanje direktno vezano za život.
Kao što nisi ništa mogao da saznaš pre nego što te majka donela na svet, isto tako nećeš moći kada budeš mrtav.
Saznanja su vezana za čula i razum, a ni jedno ni drugo ne funkcionišu kad si mrtav.
Nadam se da je sada jasnije.
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Jasno je meni sta ti hoces da kazes,ali kako znas da kad umres to u stvari nece biti novo rodjenje...samim tim tvoja teorija pada u vodu...
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Kada vidim fleku od zgažene mačke na magistralnom putu nešto nemam osećaj da se ista baš preporodila.limunada:
Intuicija, šta da ti kažem.
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Sizif:Kada vidim fleku od zgažene mačke na magistralnom putu nešto nemam osećaj da se ista baš preporodila.limunada:
Intuicija, šta da ti kažem.
Ebiga,to nije dokaz... :wink:
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Imaš li možda ti dokaz da se mačka preporodila ispod kamionske gume? :wink:limunada:
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Sizif:
Ja nigdje nisam ni rekla da imam dokaz,nego ti...A mislim da niko ne moze imati dokaz za zivot posle smrti.
Samo ako nesto ja ne znam...ne mora da znaci da ne postoji...to sam htjela da kazem.A ti si bas sto posto siguran,pa rekoh da pitam... :wink:
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Ja nigde nisam ni pomenuo reč "dokaz", nego "intuicija".limunada:
Ah... žene... 8)
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Nećemo saznati, jer ćemo biti mrtvi, a samo živi mogu da saznaju...[/quote]
Sizife...ovo su tvoje rijeci... Sta ces ,zene dok ne istjeraju mak na konac nece odustati... :wink:
A kazu da je zenska intuicija,jaca od muske...
Sizife...ovo su tvoje rijeci...
Sta ces ,zene dok ne istjeraju mak na konac nece odustati... :wink:A kazu da je zenska intuicija,jaca od muske...
