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'Unemployment is solved by women being forced from the workforce'
:mrgreen:

ništa se ovo ne razlikuje od preporuka forumskih ženomrzaca kako vratiti one income family i time muškarčevu slavu kao jedinog hlebodonosioca


ne znam sta da kažem za islam, koliko god je politički glasan, toliko je iznutra mutav, uopšte mi se ne ukazuje neka njegova unutrašnja suština, koja se iz hrišćanstva još i može iskopati (iako sve manje i manje). do XIII veka je stvarao svet napredniji od hrišćanskog, pa predivni islamski misticizam sufizam, pa kad čitaš Rumija, to rezonuje i posle toliko vekova.. a onda su samo stali, i od tada mrze sve koji nisu
Mislim da je hriscanstvo najsklonije evoluciji od tri abrahamske religije, od samih zacetaka (vidi samo kada su odbacili cirkumciziju, konzumaciju svinjetine i ostalo).

Nisam vernik, ne pusim tu obavezu politicke korektnosti kada se govori o islamu, ne vidim potrebu za izjednacavanjem. Zaostali su i ne vidim kako ce sami doci do neke preko potrebne reforme.

Ali ovde je fora u tome sto ce dosta ultra desnicara prelaziti na Islam, i to onih najgorih - nacional socijalista. Ne vide vise nista konzervativno u hriscanstvu, nema se sta konzervirati i onda ce da udaraju reakcionarno.
 
@sir patula


In one sense, the jihad against “the perverse Western world” and against “the infidels” proclaimed by Islamists everywhere is the analogue of the religious wars, the fanatical persecution of heretics, and the burning of witches that we had in Europe centuries ago. Or rather, it is the analogue of an even earlier stage, that of the Crusades, which was the very beginning of the long European process of the integration of “the Other.” The Islamic world is still in the stage of
historical development that the West has overcome long ago. The critical struggle with its own orthodoxy, the job of overcoming itself through a process of self-reflection and self-sublation still remains to be shouldered by Islam. But generally, this job has been neglected in the Islamic world; even more than neglected: it has been and is being replaced by stubborn reliance on its glorious past, on the one hand, and by making a bogeyman out of the West, which can then be blamed for its own misery, on the other. What could be a productive challenge is turned into hatred, rage, the will for destruction. Here it is helpful to see how differently, productively Eastern Asia (Japan, Taiwan, Korea, and now China …) reacted to the encounter with the West. The Lebanese poet Abbas Baydoun seems to think along similar lines:

'Even if our reproach that America exploits our suffering and our ineptitude is justified, we nevertheless do not summon an equivalent effort to recognize our own responsibility for the causes of this suffering. It is a responsibility that increases every day. We have always preferred to nurture a small tyrant inside of each of us who defers any accountability towards ourselves and towards others, until the historical revenge on the West be accomplished—as unlikely as this may be [...] Possibly many among us pray that the racism of the West and the American paranoia will increase, for then we will have another excuse for not looking into the mirror. In this way, we can again sink into the delusional idea of a collective suppression in order to spare ourselves the sight of a dreadful face, the face of another Islam, the Islam of isolation and arbitrary violence, which is gradually gaining the upper hand and will soon, as we head for the climax of our delusion, become our actual face.'


It is so much easier to resort to resentment and to blame others for the unsatisfactory conditions one finds oneself in than to do one’s homework, so much easier to resort to simple slogans and simple answers to complex questions than to engage in a long-term and detailed intellectual struggle with the problems posed by the existence of the modern world, so much easier to act out (by detonating bombs) than to erinnern (to interiorize, integrate). The terrorists, at any rate, prefer fanaticism to intellectual labor, prefer building someone else up into a hate object worthy of destruction to working upon “themselves”: upon their own religion, cultural tradition and political conditions. Fanaticism is a “substitutive formation” much in the Freudian sense. Logically, it is, as pointed out above, the substitution of excessive subjective affect and will for the lack of “objective” truth in one’s belief-system, and practically it is the substitution of acting out for the neglect of and refusal to fulfill one’s obligation to do one’s homework. On a personal level, it amounts to a kind of brainwashing. Something is broken in the personality. It is no longer alive, open, flexible, no longer human in the full sense of the word, but functions monomaniacally like a programmed machine.

'When a soldier has fought or even murdered in a war, he becomes tired at some point; at some point he wants to go home again. This means, each person who speaks for himself cannot be a permanent terrorist, a permanent murderer. The Attas and bin Ladens, however, function differently—in them the life and flux of personal feelings have been interrupted so that these feelings turn into missiles
(Alexander Kluge).'


da se malo počastiš
 
Sta kazes, kad je vojnik ucestvovao u ratu ili cak poginuo, on se eventualno umori i hoce da se vrati kuci.

Ali posto je vec mrtav onda je duh i on sve pokusava i pokusava da kao duh opsjedne neku osobu i da se vrati kuci, medju zive.


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Ima mnogo više razloga nego što ima žena, pravilo je da se svakog dana napreduje, pa lepe udate žene rade isto što i pre braka i unapredjuju svoje znanje i zdravlje, drugo, žene se više mere medjusobom nego što im je bitno mišljenje muževa, jer znaju da muž neće primetiti da je još dobra riba, ali će druge žene to primetiti. Za one ružne je muškarac sigurnost iz koje može da se razvija bolje da bi imala bolji status medju ženama.
Pa iako je tema trolovanje, odgovori na ovu temu su značajni u poplavi ludačkih tema.
 
Nisu ni pomorandze neke, priznajem. Poslednjih mjesec-dva jedem neke koje uopste nemaju spice.

Slazem se da je pojesti pomorandzu bolje od cijedjenja.


pa ne znam, u nekim merenjima je čak i pokazano da ceđeno voće izaziva manji skok insulina nego neprerađeno


ako se stalno vodiš time da je prirodno sigurno bolje, nećeš daleko dogurati u spoznaji Apsolutnog duha i Oca našeg nebeskoga na nebesima
 
@sir patula


In one sense, the jihad against “the perverse Western world” and against “the infidels” proclaimed by Islamists everywhere is the analogue of the religious wars, the fanatical persecution of heretics, and the burning of witches that we had in Europe centuries ago. Or rather, it is the analogue of an even earlier stage, that of the Crusades, which was the very beginning of the long European process of the integration of “the Other.” The Islamic world is still in the stage of
historical development that the West has overcome long ago. The critical struggle with its own orthodoxy, the job of overcoming itself through a process of self-reflection and self-sublation still remains to be shouldered by Islam. But generally, this job has been neglected in the Islamic world; even more than neglected: it has been and is being replaced by stubborn reliance on its glorious past, on the one hand, and by making a bogeyman out of the West, which can then be blamed for its own misery, on the other. What could be a productive challenge is turned into hatred, rage, the will for destruction. Here it is helpful to see how differently, productively Eastern Asia (Japan, Taiwan, Korea, and now China …) reacted to the encounter with the West. The Lebanese poet Abbas Baydoun seems to think along similar lines:

'Even if our reproach that America exploits our suffering and our ineptitude is justified, we nevertheless do not summon an equivalent effort to recognize our own responsibility for the causes of this suffering. It is a responsibility that increases every day. We have always preferred to nurture a small tyrant inside of each of us who defers any accountability towards ourselves and towards others, until the historical revenge on the West be accomplished—as unlikely as this may be [...] Possibly many among us pray that the racism of the West and the American paranoia will increase, for then we will have another excuse for not looking into the mirror. In this way, we can again sink into the delusional idea of a collective suppression in order to spare ourselves the sight of a dreadful face, the face of another Islam, the Islam of isolation and arbitrary violence, which is gradually gaining the upper hand and will soon, as we head for the climax of our delusion, become our actual face.'


It is so much easier to resort to resentment and to blame others for the unsatisfactory conditions one finds oneself in than to do one’s homework, so much easier to resort to simple slogans and simple answers to complex questions than to engage in a long-term and detailed intellectual struggle with the problems posed by the existence of the modern world, so much easier to act out (by detonating bombs) than to erinnern (to interiorize, integrate). The terrorists, at any rate, prefer fanaticism to intellectual labor, prefer building someone else up into a hate object worthy of destruction to working upon “themselves”: upon their own religion, cultural tradition and political conditions. Fanaticism is a “substitutive formation” much in the Freudian sense. Logically, it is, as pointed out above, the substitution of excessive subjective affect and will for the lack of “objective” truth in one’s belief-system, and practically it is the substitution of acting out for the neglect of and refusal to fulfill one’s obligation to do one’s homework. On a personal level, it amounts to a kind of brainwashing. Something is broken in the personality. It is no longer alive, open, flexible, no longer human in the full sense of the word, but functions monomaniacally like a programmed machine.

'When a soldier has fought or even murdered in a war, he becomes tired at some point; at some point he wants to go home again. This means, each person who speaks for himself cannot be a permanent terrorist, a permanent murderer. The Attas and bin Ladens, however, function differently—in them the life and flux of personal feelings have been interrupted so that these feelings turn into missiles
(Alexander Kluge).'


da se malo počastiš
Based?

Dosta je zalosno sto su zene u tim BI islamskim prcijama bile slobodnije sedamdesetih godina nego sada. Pogledas Bagdad, sve su bile normalno odevene, skolovale se i tako dalje. Marksisticki pristup religiji ih je drzao na uzdama, nakon njega imaju raspasoj. Mozda je cak imao i kontraefekat.

Iako ne svi... Muslimani bivseg SSSR-a, oni iz jugoistocne Azije, pa i šiizam, nisu ni blizu retrogradni kao sunni Arapi.
 

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